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this is bbc news, the headlines: the president of zimbabwe, emmerson mnangagwa, has flown home from a state visit to russia. there've been violent protests in zimbabwe over the doubling of fuel prices, and the opposition movement for democratic change says the authorities have waged a brutal campaign of suppression against its supporters. theresa may, has promised more consultations on britain's planned departure from the european union — but no radical change of direction. she told mps she'd then return to brussels to negotiate changes to her agreement. she also vowed to seek changes to the irish backstop from the eu. the smartphone messaging service, whatsapp, is limiting its users to forwarding any single message five times. the aim is to prevent the spread of false information on the platform. the facebook—owned business had already introduced the policy in india six months ago. until now, users elsewhere could forward messages up to 20 times. now on bbc news, monday in parliament. hello and welcome to
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monday in parliament, our look at the best of the day in the commons and the lords. theresa may unveils her plan b to try to break the brexit impasse but not everyone is impressed. parliament has run out of road. we could debate for another two and a half years. in the lords, concern over what is happening in zimbabwe. is it not clear that the government that is willing to shoot its own subjects in most cases apparently for no reason whatsoever should not be a member of the commonwealth? and will colleges for post—16 students always be a poor relation in the world of education? shouldn't we be giving people in our seaside towns, northern
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industrial areas and parts of london the skills to compete in the economy we are going to have? round and round we go again. there were moments last week when it was thought the prime minister would be announcing a bold plan at the start of this week to put the government on a new track to achieving brexit as the days ticked down to march the 29th. but in the end, when she came to the commons to make her statement, theresa may did not present any details of a new approach despite her crushing defeat in the commons last week when mps threw out her withdrawal agreement by a 230—vote margin. she indicated she thought she could still do enough to persuade brexiteer tories and the dup to deal. following the vote last week, it is clear the government's approach had to change, and it has. having established the confidence of parliament, i have listened to colleagues from different parties and with different views. last week i met the leader
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of the liberal democrats, the westminster leaders of the dup, snp, plaid cymru and the green party and backbench members from both sides of the house. i regret that the right honourable gentleman the leader of the opposition has not chosen to take part so far. i hope he will reflect on that decision. whilst i will disappoint colleagues hoping to secure a second referendum. , géfisaeaserz-szisafisfiiéafi , , of the brexit deal with the eu and my sense so far is that three
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future partnership. secondly we will. invent” 7 7”. ,-.. . ,, . the strongest possible protection on workers‘ rights and third work to identify how we can ensure our commitmenhtrknow hard border in ireland and northern ireland can be done. and be done in a way that commands the support of the house and the european union. we will back amendments that seek to rule out the disaster of no deal and as we have said, we will not rule out the option of a public vote, so mr speaker, no more phoney talks. parliament will debate and decide and this time, this time mr speaker, i hope and expect the government to listen to this house. can i just say to the right honourable gentleman, he says no more phoney talks, it would be nice to have just some talks with him on this issue.
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she talks about social cohesion, but surely the most divisive thing to do would be for members of this house to vote through her deal knowing that our communities simply do not want it. and isn't it time for all of us to be honest that parliament has run out of road? we have been debating for two and a half years, we could debate for another two and a half years and we still wouldn't reach a resolution on brexit. the only people who can do that now surely are the british people. can i thank the prime minister for the meetings we have had in recent days and the good engagements, and for her recognition there are core issues that need to be sorted out as far as the withdrawal agreement is concerned, her willingness to reach a consensus, and the fact she will go back to brussels and ask for the necessary changes to be made. i welcome the prime minister's recognition of the difficulties
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raised around the backstop so when the prime minister goes to brussels, is she prepared to reopen the text of the withdrawal agreement in order to address many of the concerns she has heard from many members and right honourable members of the house with regards to the backstop? the truth is that by failing to achieve a consensus, the only way we can leave without a deal, now the deal has been so roundly rejected, is to extend article 50 and even at this late stage will the prime minister not agree to do that? given that this house decided last week by 230 votes that the government's proposals was a bad deal, if you go back to brussels and they are not prepared to give a good deal, would she honour the conservative manifesto commitment and leave on the 29th of march on a clean global brexit? of course we stood on the manifesto, i have repeated that no deal
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was better than a bad deal, but i also believe it is better for the uk to leave the eu with the deal, with a good deal. there's only a very small minority, a very small minority are very right wing people trying to undermine this to prevent a vote. when did the tory parties start running away from fascist rather than standing up to them? surely at some point she accepts scotland wants to be part of this ugly defeating self isolating brexit britain or whether it should retain itself as an independent nation. 3500 troops were put on brexit standby, can she clarify what their rules of engagement would be in the event that they face angry and violent demonstrators? and would they be armed? can i say to the right
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honourable gentleman, it is of course right the government is taking the necessary contingency arrangements. i think what he will find is what we are talking about is those troops perhaps being able to relieve others undertaking roles such as guarding of certain sites. and when it could not get much work, there —— worse, it has gotten worse. in an unusual move peers voted to block the report stage of the trade bill until full details of trade plans are known. the change was branded a tactic of obstruction by the government. the aims of the bill are to let the uk replicates after brexit the current trade agreements that the uk is party to as a member of the eu.
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the leader in the lords argued it would be responsible to proceed without more information. liam fox is on record saying how easy it was all going to be, and he said back injuly 2017 the free trade agreement should be one of the easiest in history. then he said all agreements would be ready and in place one second after brexit with no disruption to trade. so not only were those statements are responsible, they were also gravely wrong. now the international trade secretary only says that he hopes they will be in place but it depends on whether other countries are prepared to put the work in. it will no doubt be argued this amendment is unprecedented, well perhaps it is, but as we are seeing in the commons, at a time when government has all but collapsed, it is inevitable that parliament should assert its control over proceedings.
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that's what this amendment seeks to do and it has the support of these benches. we have arrived at the time when the national interest must be put first before any narrow party interest. that is the duty of all parliamentarians. it in fact happens also to coincide with the pragmatic interests. we would not be in this position if the noble ladysmith, if the leader of the party had been more constructive. we would not be in this position if the eu itself had been more constructive and cooperative. its failure to do so is a sign of a lack of confidence in its own future. my lords, it is absolutely essential that we stick
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with our constitutional procedures and do not play fast and loose with them because imagine what would happen in a future circumstance with a future government. it could be far worse. we must proceed as our procedures require us to do so. i submit to your lordships that we should not be trying to filibuster in this particular area. it has all the signs as far as i can see, if i were sitting in the other place, the filibuster if i ever saw one. doctor fox has been running round the world happily at the taxpayers expense no doubt and achieving precisely nothing. my lords, this country's handling of the whole brexit issue has been marked by the most extraordinary incompetence. the whole world knows that and the incompetence has often consisted of underestimating the bargaining power of the people. a few minutes later peers voted
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in favour of the labour proposal to stop the trade bill in its tracks. my lords, contents 243, not contents 208, so the contents have it. you are watching our round—up of the day in the commons and lords. still to come, mps respond to the weekend car bomb attack in northern ireland. the call for the government to recolonise zimbabwe has been made in the house of lords. the independent peer lord palmer made the suggestion as peers turned their attention to the latest reports of violence in the southern african country. the country when it was known as rhodesia was under british rule from 1898 until 1964.
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in the last months, security forces in zimbabwe are said to have arrested and attacked opposition politicians and hundreds of supporters in what has been seen crackdown. ff zsfl‘zfiggyyzz§$ :‘ i : j... 7 and partaking in indiscriminate arrest. could i ask my noble friend to clarify whether there had been any discussions with the african union or other similar organisations to put pressure on the zimbabwean government to end these actions? and is it not clear but a government that is willing to shoot its own subjects in most cases apparently for no reason whatsoever should not be a member of the commonwealth?
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what we are hearing is clearly shocking and deeply depressing when people had been optimistic as to where zimbabwe was heading. could the noble lords and minister say how we are going to approach with our partners in the future should we leave the eu? it has tended to look to the uk for a lead. how will we co—ordinate with the eu in the future should we leave the eu in the future should we leave the eu? as i have already said, my honourable friend the minister for africa will be meeting on the wider question of what happens post—brexit. let me assure her, as we seek other countries, most notably germany and belgium, joining the security council i will be extending discussions about how we can work together brexit aside on the importance of having a european view on issues of international importance. this it is tragic to see what is going on, has
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he considered colonising? it is tragic to see what is going oi'i. that is not an option i have personally considered. i think that was the basis on which the recent riots took place and the fuel prices is a challenge, however with the current restrictions imposed and also the lack of reform which other noble lords have indicated in terms of other economic reforms on the ground, the opening up of the economy has prevented the kind of economy emerging we wish to see. there's been cross—party condemnation of the bombing in northern ireland at the weekend. police in londonderry have had
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to deal with two security alert dealing with hijacked vehicles two days after a bomb planted in a delivery van exploded outside a courthouse in derry city centre. police say the attack may have been carried out by the new ira, a dissident republican group. a sickening outcome was narrowly averted. those who planned this attack and placed the crude device in a busy city centre have absolutely no regard for the people who live and work there. the bottom line is that voices of —— across the spectrum are united. this is intolerable violence with no place in our society. we all want to look forward and build a peacefulfuture for northern ireland. the small number of people responsible for the attack have nothing to offer northern ireland and will not prevail. her labour shadow also condemned the attack but turned to the political deadlock in northern ireland the small number of people responsible for the attack have nothing to offer northern ireland and will not prevail. her labour shadow also condemned
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the attack but turned to the political deadlock in northern ireland after the collapse of the power—sharing executive. normal politics does not function at the moment in northern ireland. if we are going to see an advance on the reconciliation process that began with the good friday agreement, we need to see a return to normal politics because if politics cannot offer the hope of change, frankly we give an easy gift to those who would do us harm and we cannot allow that. despite press reports, there is no desire by anybody in this government to see anything other than upholding in full the belfast good friday agreement. i too want to see the structures and institutions back where they should be. i want to see the parliament building busy, active, making decisions and doing the right thing by the people of northern ireland.
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the most striking thing has been the reaction of the people of the city of derry, who are clearly revolted by this latest outrage. let's not legitimise in any way what these people are about by subscribing to them because. these are people who want to destroy communities on both sides, who want to disrupt and bring nothing positive and who have no agenda whatsoever and therefore i totally support what the secretary of state has said in that regard. this is what is important we have all of the democratic institutions in northern ireland functioning. will she inject fresh impetus to that process, if necessary bringing in and outside mediator to get things moving? we are now fully two years since the breakdown of power—sharing in northern ireland and this has been a reminder that violence can fill a political vacuum in northern ireland so can she say what she will do to try to kick—start the talks
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that the peace process is built upon? it is not a normal situation where you have heart of a democratic country, the situation where five parties form an executive and only one of them refuses to allow the formation of that executive, and surely when we get stormont up and running again as i hope will happen soon, we need to look at reforming the system so it is precisely what the honourable members described, normal politics. this must be a matter for the politicians in northern ireland. we stand ready to support the politicians in northern ireland to do what they need to do and to do what they want to do in order to make politics in northern ireland work and have a sustainable executive for the long—term. could the skills acquired in post—i6 further education be more important
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in the changing world than degrees obtained in higher education? that question was posed in a debate among mps following the publication of a petition on the parliament website. the petition states further education funding has been cut by 30% in the years from 2009 to 2019 and calls on the government urgently to bring spending applications for further education colleges to sustainable levels. it is not a new phenomenon, the near invisibility of further education and now apparently other colleges too to people in this place is not new. a divided country with too many left behind. no wonder it mirrors the eu divide almost exactly which is why i would argue it is in everyone‘s interest that this injustice is tackled. does he agree with me the {3.3 billion of cuts in further
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education since 2010 is devastating and given a higher proportion of working class students who attend further education colleges, and i was one of them, does he agree this government is hell—bent on making life a misery for working—class people in this country? does he agree with me that what we don't need to hear from the government is bringing back grammar schools, it is funding night schools? and if indeed we exit from the european union, shouldn't we be giving people in our seaside towns in northern industrial areas and parts of london the skills to compete in the economy we are going to have? post—16 education is vital to prosperity in the uk, at a time when many fear the government stands an education is making access to skills more uncertain. i think it is foolish to in young people's and training, and to be competitive the uk must adequately resourced the educational future generations. in january 2017 the minister for schools told the previous education committee that in 2010
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the government prioritised spending between five to 16 on the grounds it had a more dumbest rubble impact on live choices. but people develop at different points on the education ladder of opportunity. for some further education can be the chrysalis stage between the caterpillar and butterfly. does he not agree with me that colleges like that in waltham forest are the key for people to change skilling and we should not therefore right people off at the age of 16, 17, or even 35 and 40. they are in some senses even more than universities. the honourable member for cambridge is right to underline our divisions in society and he's right further education has been left behind, notjust in terms of finance but the domination of the higher education sector, which has crowded
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out any conversation about further education and how crucial it is. will the uk be a more dangerous place if it leaves the eu without a deal? 0pposition mps have been questioning the home secretary over the impact of losing access to the eu has criminal databases and extradition system. the police have said direct access to databases are mission—critical for the work tackling criminals and terrorists. what guarantee can the home secretary give to the house today that after the transition period written will still have access, the police will still have access to these critical data bases? where i agree with the right honourable gentleman is that they are important databases and that's why i think it is also a very good outcome that in the political declaration we have an agreement to consider the arrangements of how we can keep using this type of arrangement.
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again, if the right honourable gentleman is that concerned, he should support the deal. the european court ofjustice has oversight of the european arrest warrant and others. he says we will have arrangements for them, how does he therefore crossed the red line on those issues? that is quite straightforward. if the honourable gentleman takes time to read the political declaration, he will see that it talks of establishing arrangements for example for quick and efficient surrender of individuals so they are not exactly or necessarily the same instruments. we have done it in a way that is consistent with taking back control of our laws. i have listened with great care to the home secretary. he will be aware of the eu insists on treaty arrangements governing key aspects of international security, justice and policing. without a treaty, courts have no legal basis to implement the rest or extradition warrants and cannot
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allow access to criminal databases to third countries. the danger is there will be a mutual loss of the european arrest warrant and the uk will no longer be able to access the euro poll data base in real—time. how does he justify putting the security of the nation at risk? the government has suggested to the eu, and this is still if the deal gets through parliament as part of a political declaration, this is what will be looked at, is having an internal security treaty between the uk and the eu because it is best to have these arrangements on a proper legal footing and it makes sense to have them through a treaty type arrangement. but again, i have to say if the right honourable lady is really concerned about continued cooperation, she should
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support the deal. the home secretary insisted that with or without a deal, the uk was a safe place. that is it for this programme. alicia mccarthy will be here for the rest of the week, but for now, from me, goodbye. hello there, a very icy starts awaits us tuesday morning. some heavy wintry showers following on behind seven, nation making many services quite damp and therefore the potential to be quite icy. this
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is the weather front i talked about, is the weather front i talked about, is given seven centimetres of snow and could even see sleet and snow clearing. gusty winds accompanied on behind the showers are packing in thick and fast. these are the morning figures for the towns and cities which clear the road surface temperatures, the pavements and out in the countryside, the temperatures around freezing hence the ice risk. what's happening, we've had that banned the weather, a cold front behind it, colder air packing banned the weather, a cold front behind it, colderair packing in, the north—westerly wind drawing a lot of wintry showers are wasted through the morning rush the good bits and snow in the showers across the central lowlands, even at even eve n a cross even across the highly populated areas of northern ireland that the problem is the ice is adding to already, with showers packing to the north—west of the midlands, the north—west of the midlands, the north—west of the uk and done across wales and reaching the midlands and these that at the moment as you see through the morning hours that band of rain clearing away turning readily to snow, not too far away
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from our shores with the potential for wet snow at low levels as it clears away, hence the risk of ice about anywhere. then some sunshine follows but this band of showers again really gets going. heavy with hailand again really gets going. heavy with hail and thunder, so therefore could be brought down to lower levels across the midlands that afternoon towards the south—east later and 3— six will feel cold, even colder with the wind and as i mentioned through the wind and as i mentioned through the evening we could have problems with snow across southern and eastern areas and yet more snow is packing in already to the north and the west so again another icy night to come and bitterly cold, the cold est to come and bitterly cold, the coldest night of the week, —10 across the snowfields of scotland but then as we are seeing fewer showers through the coming night, tuesday night and wednesday, wednesday is looking slightly better, less windy, not as cold but there are still the risk of some wintry showers developing across southern and eastern parts of england in particular the temperatures no better than two or three for some of us. still cold despite the sunshine, a little less cold later in the week that the cold
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