you're watching beyond 100 days. 32 days into the government shutdown, and mr trump says he's not caving. democrats reply that they're not backing down either, and so this costly standoff continues. which means more misery for all those people who haven't been paid since christmas. we report from massachusetts on what this political fight means for them. we're pawns in this game is, that our livelihood is being used in a political game of chicken. who's going to cave first? the us supreme court upholds mr trump's ban on transgender people serving in the military — for the moment. also on the programme... battle lines drawn. the british parlimement draws up ammendments to theresa may's brexit plan to try and remove the threat of a no—deal brexit. "the garden of eden is no more." david attenborough tells prince william, in front of an audience of business leaders, that you can't overstate the urgency of climate change. hello and welcome.

i'm katty kay in washington. christian fraser is in london. the phrase of the day from the white house is "no cave". 32 days into a us government shutdown, mr trump tweeted again today that without his border wall america cannot be secure, which means he won't reopen the government. the president's sparring partner in this battle, democrat nancy pelosi, immediately responded, also on twitter, accusing mr trump of holding americans hostage as he fights for his wall. presumably she meant those 800,000 federal workers who aren't getting paid while this political standoff continues. aleem maqbool has been to meet some of those workers in boston. from an airport in boston, they're trying to tell washington they're suffering. right now, our nation is being held hostage by our president. air—traffic controllers and airport security officers are among hundreds of thousands

who have gone unpaid. it started when donald trump demanded approval for billions of dollars for his border wall and the democrats refused. no—one is budging. today, we are here to send a very simple message to washington. 0pen our government and pay our people for the work they do. not far to the west is one of the many federal prisons where officers are working without pay. some of them voted for donald trump, but the shutdown doesn't discriminate. we might have some folks that see the border security issue exactly like the president. we have folks that don't. but what we all see together is that we are pawns in this game is, that our livelihood is being used in a political game of chicken. who's going to cave first? we all feel like that. and the effects are being felt far beyond just workers not

getting their salaries. other business has come to a halt because of the shutdown, too. it's kind of scary. molly's worried the government assisted rent won't be paid, and that she could soon be evicted because of the political deadlock. i'm very upset with all of them, on all political spectrums of it. it'sjust tit—for—tat, and it's just, you know, enough is enough. you guys have a home, you guys have security. you have, you know, you're worth millions and millions of dollars. we have hard—working americans here that, you know, are doing the right thing, and you guys are doing tit—for—tat. and it's like people's lives are in jeopardy. and molly is worried it all means her 86—year—old father, who lives here, will also become a victim of an increasingly far reaching crisis. those are the people really feeling

the consequences of the shutdown. and for more on the political stalemate we are joined now by william cohen who served in congress for two decades before becoming us defence secretary. you us defence secretary. served in congress the last‘ there you served in congress the last time there was a long shutdown, in the clinton administration, 21 days — do you see a way out of this one? is there a political resolution to be had in this climate? there is, but first let me say this is shameful, what is taking place, it is a disgrace. those people, their families, all of the contract and others, the millions of people who are affected... many of them employees of the defence department. the intelligence departments, food and, transportation safety department, at and, transportation safety department, et cetera, all being impacted by this, and it is really over a political issue, president trump said, i will own this issue, i wa nt trump said, i will own this issue, i want to shutdown trump said, i will own this issue, i want to shut down the government, andl want to shut down the government, and i want blame you, nancy or

chuck. the problem is that this is making russia great again. if you had to look at president putin's bucket list, number one, support for brexit, number two, undermined bucket list, number one, support for brexit, numbertwo, undermined the eu, numberthree, undermine nato, numberfour, eu, numberthree, undermine nato, number four, confusion and distrust among the american people, number five, gets sanctions relief for my friend, our leg, five, gets sanctions relief for my friend, ourleg, and five, gets sanctions relief for my friend, our leg, and this is everything that president putin would say, and now seeing bread lines and soup lines in the nation's capital. this is a disgrace, what is taking place. so the first thing i would do, if i was back on capitol hill, i would go to the speaker and the site, call a hearing and bring the site, call a hearing and bring the joint chiefs of staff, the chairman and the joint chiefs of staff, bring them and the combatant commanders in the field, have them testify what presents a greater threat to the security of this country — having a shutdown of

government impacting the fbi, the cia, food and safety, drugs, food and other necessities, or the few people who want to come across the border illegally? what is the greater threat to our national security? i would submit to you that what is taking place right now is the gravest of threats to that national security, and the president, as commander—in—chief, is abdicating his responsibility by saying, oh, i have a bigger problem with a few migrants trying to get in illegally. even a few thousand, if thatis illegally. even a few thousand, if that is the case, how do you measure that is the case, how do you measure that against what is happening vis—a—vis what russia has done to oui’ vis—a—vis what russia has done to our country, what is the market is enjoying as a result of this breakdown of governance ? enjoying as a result of this breakdown of governance? the democrats ought to call a hearing, put people on record under oath, saying, give me your personal and professional opinion, what does this do to threaten the united states? which is the greater threat to our security? it seems to me, looking at

it from this side, that the only way this ends is for nancy pelosi and the president to sort out their differences. they are the two people in the room, who is going to blink first? there is no question that they have to come together. the president saying i am never going to cave, well, the role of the president of the united states as commander in chief is to make sure he protects and defends our interest, he is not doing that now. but i would say there is ideal to be made. nancy pelosi can say, mr president, we will provide $5 billion provided we have an equal say in how it is allocated, partly for the wall, partly for other means of security. we will provide the funds in exchange for you recognising the daca children permanently, there was under production permanently. we will authorise this money if you have the department of homeland security

locate every one of the children that was separated by you from their families. that is ideal we would be prepared to make, that is a deal i suggest the democrats ought to make to the president of the united states. hmm. william cohen, stay with us, another story just breaking. we also heard today that the us supreme court has allowed the president to enforce his policy of barring most transgender people from joining or staying in the military, while legal arguments continue in the lower courts. the president first announced a blanket ban on twitter in 2017. since then, it has been replaced by a ban on those who have undergone or are undergoing gender transition. at the time of that twitter announcment, the bbc spoke to riley dosh, a transgender officer in training at the military academy at west point. she was faced with having to find a new career. i fell in love with this country, and even those that completely fundamentally disagree with me, i felt this desire — i want to serve and defend you, and i want to defend your right to disagree with me. how do you feel now? i'm going to have to find some other way to serve,

not necessarily in the military, but serve the country either in the private sector or public sector. it's heartbreaking that they won't let me be an officer, but for now that's how the cards fell. william cohen is still with us. this, of course, still going through the courts, it may not stand eventually, but today the supreme court siding with donald trump. you said when this was announced that if you had been secretary of defence at the time, you would have quit over this announcement. well, i would have quit over many of the positions taken by the president in terms of the use of the military, sending our troops to the border, on a military mission for a non—military purpose. in any event, the transgender issue is one, can these individuals, these human beings continue to serve our country? can they carry out the

military mission? if they can do so, and consistently our military leaders say they can, they ought to be allowed to sell. the commander can overrule that, they subordinated their position to his, but nonetheless it does diminish our commitment to equal rights for all, and if the question is, can they carry out the mission, if they carry out the mission, they ought to serve, that is the position i would have taken, and that james mattis had taken. thank you very much for joining us. aside from the issue of transgender! —— transgenders on the force, we are starting to see the conservative leaning or taking a different ruling on what it might have before. i think, different ruling on what it might have before. ithink, on different ruling on what it might have before. i think, on an issue like this, you would have always seen a split, with the four liberals perhaps siding against the president. the key is that it still

has to go through the appeals court process , has to go through the appeals court process, and the supreme court made that clear. this brand stands for the moment, until it has gone through the appeals process, so we could see action taken against a president that does stand eventually, this is just president that does stand eventually, this isjust the position it is for the moment, but the supreme court always played on those 11—5 lines, that is what happens. the former us marine who was arrested in russia injanuary on charges he was spying for the united states has appeared before a judge in moscow. paul whelan's lawyer said he was handed a usb drive just he was arrested that contained state secrets, but mr whelan denies the charges and says he was in russia to attend a friend's wedding. 0ur correspondent sarah rainsford was in court for his first appearance, and she sent this report. is he a spy or a tourist who's been trapped ? this was the first public sight of paul whelan since his arrest last month. russia's fsb security service claims it caught him red—handed with state secrets. at his bail hearing, the former us marine seemed calm. mr whelan, can you tell us what you

make of the charge against you? but he wasn't allowed to answer our questions. we now know paul whelan was detained at this upmarket moscow hotel. he was here for a friend's wedding. his lawyer says he was handed a memory stick, what he thought contained pictures of cultural sites. instead, it was loaded with official secrets. when i met the lawyer, he said he'd not seen any proof mr whelan knew what he was handling. he described a man fascinated by russia for over a decade, with dozens of friends here. translation: the investigators are currently trying to prove he's guilty, presenting evidence, and we're denying it, because paul doesn't consider himself guilty. he thinks they've made a mistake, and we are trying to explain and prove that. paul whelan's being held at this notorious fsb detention centre as questions about his case swirl. there has been speculation

he may have been set up, arrested perhaps to swap for a russian detainee in america. certainly, this former soviet counterintelligence officer thinks thinks him an unlikely character to be seeking russian secrets. translation: it's really doubtful that someone from us intelligence would come to russia without diplomatic cover at a time when counterintelligence here is on high alert and there's a total lack of trust of foreigners. i think that's very unlikely indeed. but the judge ruled against releasing mr whelan from custody. paul whelan now be taken back from here to his prison cell where he looks likely to spend several months as this investigation continues. this case, of course, one that looks set to make relations between the west and russia even worse. sarah rainsford, bbc news, moscow. this is a complicated and intriguing

case, clearly caught up in political issues in russia and the united states and between those two countries, we still don't know exactly what happened or why. prince william has questioned why world leaders have taken so long to take action on environmental challenges. he was speaking during an interview with sir david attenborough at a gathering of world leaders and business people in the swiss resort of davos. sir david told the prince that it was difficult to overstate the urgency needed to tackle climate change. from davos, our diplomatic correspondent james landale sent this report. davos — playground for the rich and conference hall for the powerful. but look who's also here, a first—time visitor come to discuss climate change. a future monarch interviewing a man seen by many as broadcasting royalty. normally, i have to endure people asking me questions, so it's quite nice to turn the tables for once. and his subject — the global threat to the environment. how urgent is that crisis now? it's difficult to overstate it. the mechanisms that we have

for destruction are so wholesale and so frightening that we can actually exterminate whole ecosystems without even noticing it. but know this — sir david wasn't the only one with a point to make. prince william is no longer just talking about protecting wild animals. why do you think the world leaders and those in key positions of leadership, why do you think they've taken so long, and there have been quite a few faltering steps to act on environmental challenges? what advice do you have for my generation? every breath of air we take, every mouthful of food that we take, comes from the natural world, and that if we damage the natural world, we damage ourselves. turning specifically to the people in this room, what is your message to them? care for the natural world. treat it with a degree of respect and reverence. the future of the natural world is in our hands.

we have never been more powerful, we can wreck it with ease. the question, of course, is whether this call to arms falls on deaf ears, because not everyone here is as concerned about climate change, and one of them just happens to be speaking here next, in exactly the same conference hall. the new president of brazil, jair bolsonaro, is sceptical about global warming and argued that growing his economy was as important as protecting the environment. many business leaders here say they do understand the threat of climate change, but now their words have to be matched by deeds. james landale, bbc news, davos. prince william getting to ask the question is, for a change! with 66 days to brexit, mps today put forward a variety of ideas on how this process should move forward. how to implement any of those ideas, since none of them commands

a majority in parliament, is tricky, however. but there was an overarching theme today. all the various amendments seek to prevent the uk leaving the eu without a negotiated deal in place. the prime minister says the best way to do that is to back her deal — the one that was so overwhelmingly defeated last week. one of the amendments proposed by labour mp yvette cooper would try to force the government to postpone brexit day until the end of the year, if agreement on mrs may's deal cannot be reached by late february. and one of the labour mp‘s who has backed it is stephen kinnock, who is in our westminster studio. good evening to you. what is the purpose of yvette cooper's amendment? well, the primary purpose is to take no—deal off the table in the sense that we would not be able to crash out of the eu on the 29th of march, because yvette cooper has put down a piece of primary legislation which, if we voted through by activating the amendment on tuesday when we vote, it will

force the government to seek an extension to article 50 if parliament has not been able to find a way through this and agree an alternative deal, so it is binding the hands of government, which is absolutely the right thing to do, because leaving the eu with no doubt double doubles —— with no deal would be disastrous for the uk economy. i would frankly say that government is not able to fulfil the functions of government at the moment. theresa mayjust had her flagship piece of legislation crushed by 230 votes in parliament, so we are in the process of re—wiring the british constitution. that is because theresa may has tried to bully and intimidate parliament. she has never

really woken up to the fact that because of his poor performance in the 2017 general election, she has ended up in a hung parliament and she should have been reaching out across the party political divide to form a consensus across the party political divide to form a consensus for the type of brexit that parliament could support. she has failed to do that, and now we have to take matters into oui’ owfi and now we have to take matters into our own hands. one of the confusing things about brexit, one of many confusing things for people particularly watching from around the world, is that there is no clear party in the uk in favour of staying in the european union — is the labour leadership now moving incrementally in that direction?” think there are deep reservations about having a second referendum, which i also hold. for two years, i have been advocating we should leave the european union and take what is sometimes called the norway option, common market 2.0, where we lay but stay in the single market with a form of customs union that sorts out

the northern irish border, protects jobs and reflects the mandate, which was to move house would stay in the same neighbourhood. i have deep reservations about another referendum because i think it is up to parliament to sort this out, it is what mps are there for, and nobody from the second referendum campaign has ever clarified what the question on the ballot paper should be, remain, no—deal, theresa may's deal? it is deeply unclear and uncertain, ithink deal? it is deeply unclear and uncertain, i think we need to find a solution to this, leave the european union, but do so in a way that does not wreck the british economy. work and pensions secretary amber rudd has warned that if no—deal is not taken off the table, as it were, we could see dozens of ministers resigning from the government, do you think that is a real prospect came yes, you think that is a real prospect yes, there are a number of pragmatic, sensible members of parliament to a deeply uncomfortable

with the idea of leaving with no deal, and i think we would see a large numberof deal, and i think we would see a large number of ministerial resignations. if the prime minister carries on trying to run down the clock, bully and intimidate parliament, she seems to be doubling down on reaching out to the european research group, the harder brexiteers and the dup, that is the wrong way to go in my view, because what she should be doing is looking to build a consensus, and the way to do that is to soften her red lines and leave on the basis of a norway type deal. there is definitely a cross—party type deal. there is definitely a cross— party parliamentary majority for that kind of deal. stephen kinnock in westminster, thank you very much indeed. i am always slightly confused, if we had more time, i would slightly confused, if we had more time, iwould have slightly confused, if we had more time, i would have asked, slightly confused, if we had more time, iwould have asked, but slightly confused, if we had more time, i would have asked, but i'm confused when he says he is after a norway style deal when the backstop is trying to stop the return of a ha rd is trying to stop the return of a hard border, imposing a customs union, and the other side of the

deal, the withdrawal agreement, is of course a political declaration on the future relationship that has not yet been decided, it is so ambiguous, so you could have your norway plus deal if you accept that they withdrawal agreement that is there. it does puzzle me that some of the people who want a norway plus option are not getting behind the prime minister's deal. are you thinking, christian, that there is growing support for the prime minister's deal? it doesn't sound like it, now, if that is what you are suggesting. i suppose the concern for her is that she is trying to focus on the eu giving us something, and we are seeing a softening from the arg and the dup, but they are not likely to give her what she needs on the backstop, something legal that would put a defined end on it if everybody is going on in different directions, particularly given the sizeable defeat she had. i don't know whether she will get anything from the

european union, but she has said all along it is how deal or no deal, and the parliamentarians are pushing back. yeah. let's talk about a desperate story. a search in the english channel for a light aircraft carrying cardiff city's new striker, emiliano sala, has been called off for the night. the argentinian, who'd signed a £15 million deal to join the club, was one of two people on board when the piper malibu lost contact with air—traffic control last night. he was flying from nantes when their flight went missing off the channel islands last night. guernsey police said "no trace" of the missing aircraft has yet been found. afghan officials say at least 65 security personnel are now known to have died in monday's taliban attack on an intelligence base in wardak province. more than a0 others were wounded in the assault on the national security directorate south of the capital, kabul. the roof of the main building collapsed after the militants rammed a vehicle packed with explosives into it. two gunmen then stormed the compound. italy's deputy prime minister, luigi di maio,

is in a war of words with france, accusing the french of exploiting africa and fuelling migraton. luigi di maio called on the european union to impose sanctions on france for its policies in africa. france's foreign ministry summoned italy's ambassador on monday over the comments. anthony scaramucci, the former white house press secretary — and regular contributor to beyond 100 days — is in the house. no, not that one. not the white house or the house of representatives. he is in the celebrity big brother house. which actually might run a little smoother. he is trying to last longer than the ten days he spent with the administration. i am hoping he doesn't, because he is booked to talk to us next week. but anyway, here he is taking part in one of the competition's first celebrity challenges. why aren't we moving? i'm having a horrible time, embarrassing myself with my athletic prowess. being on cable news and answering

tough interview questions, that's nothing compared to an hoh competition. a voice why do people do this? he is worth $200 million. why would they mooch want to go on celebrity big brother? publicity? it is all about that, he has got his own company, some people just like that, he has got his own company, some peoplejust like being on television, christine! is beyond 100 day is not enough? not enough for the mooch? this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news, president trump's lawyer, rudy guiliani, goes into damage control over comments he made about trump tower moscow. and all of the oscar nominees announced, in a history—making line—up that leaves the best picture race wide open. that's still to come. good evening.

not only did today bring a wintry feel to the weather, there was quite a wintry look for some of us as well. not all of us got to see snow, but there certainly was some for a weather watcher in buckinghamshire, and with further wintry showers to come tonight and tomorrow, as well as the potential for some icy surfaces, some travel disruption does look quite likely. your bbc local radio station will keep you up to date. the showers today came as a mixture of rain, sleet, hail and snow, the snow not only over the hills, even to low levels we saw a bit of snow, and as we go through the evening some of these wintry showers will continue, particularly across western parts of the uk, but also some are likely to linger across parts of east anglia and the south—east. clear skies in between the showers will allow it to get very cold indeed. widely between minus one and minus 5 degrees, some spots a little colder than that. now, one potential headache for the morning rush hour tomorrow will be this little line of wintry showers, some snow perhaps in parts of east anglia just clipping into account, a further few centimetres up over the downs, for example. and also some wintry showers likely across merseyside, east wales,

down into the west midlands. most other areas starting sunny but very cold with some icy stretches, some showers into northern ireland and western scotland, eastern scotland largely dry with some sunshine, minus 12 perhaps first thing in some sheltered glens. and there could be some freezing fog patches, most likely across southern scotland and northern england, some of these slow to clear through the day. the showers towards the south—east should tend to ease off, i think, through the morning and into the afternoon. one or two showers continuing elsewhere, but generally, actually, a lot more in the way of dry weather during tomorrow, with some spells of sunshine, it won't feel particularly warm, though. more cloud later into northern ireland, and on thursday we continue to see that cloud advancing, bringing outbreaks of patchy light rain, some of it eventually fringing kick into western scotland, maybe some snow over the mountains. elsewhere, another mainly dry but very chilly feeling day. however, this rain into the far north—west will continue to progress eastwards as we go through thursday night, associated with this, a warm front, and as the name suggests, behind it to the air turns a little bit warmer, or milder at least.

we do get into this wedge of milder airfor friday, but notice cold is still not too far away. so a milder day on friday, some cloud, patchy rain, through the weekend it will turn colder again. this is beyond 100 days... with me, katty kay, in washington, christian fraser is in london. our top stories, the partial us government shutdown has now been going on for one month. some 800,000 federal employees are still not being paid. with the uk set to leave — france and germany seek to shore up their power in the european union with a new treaty. coming up in the next half hour... rudy giuliani walks back comments he made just 2a hours earlier on donald trump's business interests in russia. and the oscar nominations have been announced. established studios are facing a challenge from netflix — its film roma received the joint highest number of nominations. hello and welcome.

i'm katty kay in washington, christian fraser is in london. france and germany have signed a treaty aimed at breathing new life into their place at the centre of the european union. as the uk moves to leave the eu and a rising tide of populism challenges the core liberal values of the bloc, the new treaty commits wholeheartedly to defending it. it sets is out plans for deeper integration, future partnership on foreign policy the treaty looks less ambitious than mr macron might have envisaged when he jenny hill reports. europe's power couple, renowing their vows. inside, the aachen treaty

promises to share, work together, co—operate on security, culture, finance. translation: populism and nationalism are getting stronger. for the first time a member state is leaving. 7a years, a human life after world war ii, that which was taken for granted is being questioned again. newsreel: at the elysee palace was signed the treaty of franco—german cooperation. history is behind them. it's 56 years to the day since their predecessors pledged an end to centuries of enmity and the beginning of an alliance at the heart of the eu. but this is also the face of europe. "merkel must go" she shouts. closer union enough to drive many away. translation: the future our political leaders want is to establish national sovereignty and that makes no sense. i think france and germany always

have been going up front, starting, initiating, and i hope that they will do this again, and that they won'tjust be parting the german friendship and collaboration, but also, think of europe. for all the pomp, the ceremony, these are leaders under pressure. they want to secure the feature of the eu. not everyone shares that vision. it is why aachen‘s conservative mep is preparing her battle plan. european elections are looming, eurosceptic populism growing. the biggest challenge we have at the moment is to show the people why the european union is good for them, it is important to not just to work on a national level but to work together with others, and that enriches the life of people, but they don't see it because it's normalfor them.

aachen one of the capital of charlemagne's vast medieval european empire, powerful symbolism for a fragmenting union. jenny hill, bbc news, aachen. joining us now from berlin is matthew karnitschnig, politico's chief europe correspondent. thank you forjoining us, we have had criticism of this treaty from the far right in france and jeremy, what has more sway, the far right groups 01’ what has more sway, the far right groups or the leaders who are sitting there trying to say, look, the eu is still vital, it still has am briggses? well, i think there is no question that the leaders still have the most influence here and they have a clear majority of the population behind them. if you look at the larger political spectrum in germany for example, there are more

thanle 0% of the people who aren't supporting the far right, who supporting the far right, who support —— 80%. who support this policy towards france who are for the european union and so forth, so there is still a very strong commitment, i think, there is still a very strong commitment, ithink, to there is still a very strong commitment, i think, to the european union, both in france and germany, despite the rise of populism, which is something that often gets forgotten when we see pictures of people demonstrating on the streets. although it is pressure from populists which means that angela merkel can't go as far in this relationship m the renovation and the reforms of europe as emmanuel macron would have liked. that is right, and it is pressure from with her own party, there are many conservatives in merkel‘s own party who are uncomfortable with some of the more ambitious plans that emmanuel macron has put on the table over the past couple of years such a eurozone budget, finance minister and an idea for a new eurozone parliament. these are things they

feel would encroach too much on german sovereignty and importantly, allow other members of the european union to tap in to germany's precious coffer, so there are limits to what even the conservatives in germany are willing to accept on this front. trans last night self isn't yet in ruins but it is under threat and the german chancellor has talked about it before, interesting the two of them talked about the need for a future european army at a time when we reading that donald trump isn't convinced by the arguments for nato. well, that is right. this is an aspect of what we have seen in the treaty of aachen as they are calling it today, that is mostly symbolism to be honest, neither germany nor france has really developed a clear strategy for a european army, they are very farapart on for a european army, they are very far apart on that, the germans for example are very uncome notable with the type of procurement that would

entail. selling weapons to countries continues stopped doing, france continues to do it. france has been much more elli-st it. fri ntee’fiéghééffigih; mere ee it. fee fifee’fiégéééffiqeh; meee to ete’ tee fee etee’eeeeeevaeeh; meee to fiirilité-‘g' e‘eee‘ee‘ open to military interventions which germany, because of its abroad which germany, because of its history is very cautious about. so in addition to the basic question of money, which neither country has really resolved in terms of the immense lay out in funds, this would require, to build a european army, there are a lot of strategic and philosophical differences between the two. most people think even if they were to agree on a lot of the issues today, it would take decades for them to build the kind of army that could replace the type protection they have now, via nato, and the united states. matthew, thank you forjoining us there from berlin. rudy giliani — ex—mayor of new york and now donald trump's personal lawyer, has been forced to backtrack on comments he made over the weekend

about a real estate deal in moscow. they concern plans for a trump tower in moscow and how long the deal was pursued after mr trump decided to run for president. here's mr giuliani's original comments on nbc last sunday. well, it's our understanding that they went on, throughout 2016 — weren't a lot of them, but there were conversations, can't be sure of the exact date, but the president can remember having conversations with him about it. throughout 2016? yeah, probably up to, could be up to as far as october, november, or until the election, so any time during that period they could have talked about it. up up to november 2016. i heard the remarks suggested president trump's discussions about the russian project dragged on until the election in november 2016, raising new questions for the investigators who are looking into the allegations of collusion. but in a subsequent interview with the new yorker the story changed again. so here's how that interview went.

to simplify it, katty will play the role of the reporter from the new yorker, and i will play rudi giulliani: the new york times reported mr giulliani that president trump was involved in discussions about building a skyscraper in moscow during the campaign, and you acknowledged that. he had a few conversations about this early—stage proposal that he ended somewhere in early 2016. the quote in the story from you is that the ‘discussions were going on from the day i announced to the day i won. i did not say that. "the times just made that quote up?" "i don't know if they made it up. what i was talking about was, if he had those conversations, they would not be criminal." the nominations for best actor in the category of the oscars has been

announced and christian is not in it, he could have been clearly! rock solid for rudy giuliani there. caroline polisi is a criminal defense attorney who joins us from new york. if you are sitting in the prosecutors —— bravo christian. that is why we had to do it like that, this was his little moment. if you we re this was his little moment. if you were in the special prosecutors office, and you are listening to ruth davidson over the —— rudy giuliani over the course of the last week change his story about how long donald trump was talking about a business deal with moscow during the presidential campaign what would you make of it? well, that's exactly the point, rudy giuliani is trying to haveit point, rudy giuliani is trying to have it both ways because i don't think you played it in that quote there but one of his previous state m e nts there but one of his previous statements noted that the answers they submitted, remember donald trump submitted written answers to

robert mueller, several months ago and giuliani said the answers went all the way through the election, so, now, this weekend with this walk back, it seems like giuliani is both trying to say cover up through the election, while also you know, backtracking and saying that i were hypothetical conversations, but look, the point remains giuliani is taking this, this is not a good legal strategy, so it seems pretty oven at this point that giuliani and tea m oven at this point that giuliani and team trump are approaching this from an impeachment stand point. that means they are not, they are operating und the assumption that robert mueller is is not going to indicta robert mueller is is not going to indict a president, saying he has to follow guidelines and so this all just a political game, at this point and if giuliani can muddy the waters and if giuliani can muddy the waters an confuse people and mange them think they knee something before they knew it, that be be moves team

trump in the long run. so you mean there is a strategy here, i am sometimes listening to rudy giuliani and worer if there is one.” sometimes listening to rudy giuliani and worer if there is one. i think there has to be because now it is becoming a pattern or practise, remember the first bombshell that giuliani let out on cable news was about the payment to stormy daniels, that the president repaid it, he saidi that the president repaid it, he said i am giving you a fact you don't know now, that has been his pattern, gets out in fronts of things and he seems to mistakenly give the public a little too much and potentially walk back, but yeah, i think we should give him a bit more credit than he is getting. you don't agree with jon more credit than he is getting. you don't agree withjon sopel, who says, i he said i am giving you a fa ct says, i he said i am giving you a fact you don't know now, that has been his pattern, gets out in fronts of things and he seems to mistakenly give the public a little too much and potentially walk back, but yeah, i think we should give him a bit more credit than he is getting. you don't agree with jon more credit than he is getting. you don't agree withjon sopel, who says, iam don't agree withjon sopel, who says, i am he said don't agree withjon sopel, who says, iam he said i don't agree withjon sopel, who says, i am he said i am giving you a fa ct says, i am he said i am giving you a fact you don't know now, that has

been his pattern, gets out in fronts of things and he seems to mistakenly give the public a little too much and potentially walk back, but yeah, i think we should give him a bit more credit than he is getting. you don't agree with jon more credit than he is getting. you don't agree withjon sopel, who says, iam don't agree withjon sopel, who says, i am reading don't agree withjon sopel, who says, iam reading his don't agree withjon sopel, who says, i am reading his tweet "either rude yes the world's most incompetent lawyer or he is a smoke machine." you think he is playing a role here? i think giuliani is playing the role to lawyer to donald trump. he has the ones who told giuliani to walk it back and do damage control, giuliani is the front man for under mining this investigation, for throwing sand in the face of robert mueller, for doing everything from a political perspective, so that he is in the best seat possible, should potential impeachment shedding light on a very... do you know what was interesting about that article. he is asked what is he going to say when he turns up at the pearly gates, is he going to say that he lied for donald trump? and he seemed to give a rather equivocal a nswer to he seemed to give a rather equivocal answer to that. yes, he talked about it going, he was joking though, read it going, he was joking though, read it for yourselves guys because it is quite funny to read it. he made a joke about how it is going to the

pearly gates, is he going to say that he lied for donald trump? and he seemed to give a rather equivocal a nswer to he seemed to give a rather equivocal answer to that. yes, he talked about it going, he was joking though, read it going, he was joking though, read it for yourselves guys because it is quite funny to read it. he made a joke about how it is going to go on the pearly gates, is he going to say that he lied for donald trump? and he seemed to give a rather equivocal a nswer to he seemed to give a rather equivocal answer to that. yes, he talked about it going, he was joking though, read it going, he was joking though, read it for yourselves guys because it is quite funny to read it. he made a joke about how it is going to go on my tombstone "i lie lied for donald trump" he said that was a joke. but he is thinking about it though, the role he is having to play. i think... he wouldn't say so bluntly, i have lied for the president, that would be even by rudy giuliani's standards pretty shocking which is what he seems to be saying, you will have to read it for yourselves and make your own mind up about that. i will say if i am sitting in the white house every time rudy giuliani is going on television he will make new, sometimes it might be to the president's benefit, sometimes not, but donald trump likes the fact that rudy giuliani goes on television this is beyond 100 days. still to come — we'll be discussing the nominations for this year's 0scars which have been announced ——both period comedy "the favourite" and the mexican drama "roma" are leading the field with ten nominations each.

the family of a young woman — who died in a speedboat crash on the river thames — has urged the home secretary, sajid javid, to step up efforts to bring her killer tojustice. they've also called her killer's friends and family to "do the right thing" if they know of his whereabouts. jack shepherd went on the run before he was convicted lastjuly — in his absence — of the manslaughter of charlotte brown. the bbc‘s helena lee reports. this is the last picture of charlotte brown, on the left, with her sister. three days later, she was killed by her date in a speedboat crash. this footage recovered from charlotte's phone shows jack shepherd speeding along the thames. oh my god, you're going so fast. "you're going so fast," charlotte says. soon after, they crashed and the boat capsized. he survived, but charlotte died in hospital. jack shepherd had been

speeding and drinking. his boat was also defective. he went on trial for charlotte's manslaughter last summer but didn't attend, and went on the run before his conviction. despite being in hiding, shepherd has won the right to appeal against his conviction. today charlotte's family met with the home secretary sajid javid. they demanded to know from him what was being done to find her killer. the home secretary has underlined his personal commitment to see that shepherd is arrested and that the current manhunt is given the necessary resources and priority it requires. 0ur message is clear. there can be no hiding place forjack shepherd. the bbc has been told there are records of jack shepherd entering the former soviet state of georgia, with no sign of him having left. detectives say they have had a lot of potential sightings of him, both in the uk and abroad. charlotte's family say theyjust want him caught

so he can face justice. helena lee, bbc news, westminster. a big day in hollywood today christian, the oscar nominations were announced! very exciting for those of who follow showbiz closely. the biggest nominees are "roma" and the aplty named "the favourite". 0ur entertainment editor will gompertz has all the details. shortlisted in the supporting actress category with co—star emma stone. i'm a servant, where would i

get a horse? many of the scenes were filmed here in the cartoon gallery at hampton court palace which is full of the costumes that featured, including the one won by 0livia colman, queen anne lived here in the early pa rt colman, queen anne lived here in the early part of the 818th century when she was queen using this very space for her meetings. the favourite has ten nominations as dutch roma, a memoir of his childhood growing up in mexico city. it gives netflix its first best film nor nation, should he win, the platform on which to give his opinion about president trump's proposed wall. diversity is a theme among nomination, black panther, seth celebrating black culture is the first to be listed for best picture, along with two films exploring racism in america. spike lee's black clansman, and green book an

interracial road movie. you never win with violence tone you, you only win with violence tone you, you only win when you maintain your dignity, dignity always prevails. almost every person told me they like the way i sounded but they didn't like the way i look. i think you're beautiful. lady gaga gets a nomination, she has stiff competition not only from 0livia colman but gles close is on top form. there is less diversity behind the and for more on today's picks we are joined now from new york by larry hackett, the former editor in chief of people magazine. i love it when the nominations come out. this time i have seen a few, any big surprises for you? you?” think bohemian rhapsody, it has done

incredible business, over $800 million worldwide but not seen as a good movie. but in the golden globe it won, so it will come up from we hind. it's i big e5} "e” .., .... - . is lots of big picture, so there is lots of big picture, black panther, bohemian rhapsody, i loved roma, i watched it this weekend and i felt like loved roma, i watched it this weekend and ifelt like i read a novel. it was a surprise this film is doing as well as it is, given it is doing as well as it is, given it is not a classic blockbuster. it is not but it is beautiful and i know you watched it on television, if you see it in mo i have theatres it is even more beautiful. it is gorgeous, but it is the kind of movie that round 0scar film does well. but it is the kind of movie that round 0scarfilm does well. cuaron rote and directed it. it is the first time since warren beatty that someone first time since warren beatty that someone has been nominated in all

those category, it was seen as being near the front of the list but now after what happened at the golden globe and at the producers guild people are saying that green book may come up from behind and do very well. the producers guild and the 0scar win tend to mirror one another, so the fact that won is a sign that green book maybe heading toa sign that green book maybe heading to a victory. speaking an as undiscovered actor myself, i am slightly ta ken by undiscovered actor myself, i am slightly taken by this story of the woman that we have seen in this film, roma, she has no formal training, this is herfirst big screen role and she is now nominated for best actress, her wikipedia payment is smaller than katty‘s. for best actress, her wikipedia payment is smaller than katty's. as is her co—star, the woman who plays her best friend. she has also been nominated. it is amazing, for a beautiful film, she has nominated. it is amazing, for a beautifulfilm, she has a certain

guilelessness on the screen, but she also carries a movie for two—and—a—half hours and that is for someone two—and—a—half hours and that is for someone who has never been in a film. that is extraordinary from someone film. that is extraordinary from someone who has never done anything like this. ? there is hope for me yet. the film was made for the small scream, here you have got the academy, effectively nominating a film that goes against everything they believe, putting big films into cinema, creating money first at the box office, then flogging it to the tv, are they going to award the prides to this? that is a great question, there is 8,000 members and you have to imagine a fair percentage are going to think this is where rerd wanting something that is where rerd wanting something that is going to be eating us alive. it is going to be eating us alive. it is not like the newspaper industry putting their content online free. 0n the other hand they may say this is not where the industry should be going, we never allow tv showses to

be on, why should netflix, despite their power should be allowed to horn in on the power, and what should be a cinema experience. fascinating. larry, thank you very much forjoining u such a political process but lots of with the uk still yet to agree on a brexit deal and the us the government shutdown no closer to a resolution, you could be forgiven for thinking you could do better negotiating a deal then our elected leaders. and if not you, then what about the trained professionals? we asked three people who negotiate on a daily basis for their tips on breaking the impasse — theresa may and donald trump listen up. i believe it is my duty... it could be a long time. it's too important. we're asking the president to open up government. i am proud to shut down the government. i think you need to listen. you need to know your facts, you need to know your case. come and sit down, come and have a cup of tea, cup of coffee and we'll work the best deal out for you possible. as somebody once told me,

you've got two ears and one mouth, so use them in that proportion. you need to really understand what's important to the other side, as well as what's important to your own client. building that rapport with the customer, finding out their needs. to be clever, to be creative and to be the one that is coming up with the unique solution, that enables both parties to feel they have got what they want. they've compromised, but they haven't lost face. what i try and do is is i try and draw a picture or make them have the feelings they would feel, if this deal didn't go ahead. having a plan b, looking at all the options and really working through which option is best. rather than necessarily what's best for us, what's best for the customer, what deal do you need to do today to do a deal with me? it's good to get people in the room together. my advice would be never take no for an answer, i keep telling my son the same thing. if there are red lines, then we need to agree on what the consequences are of that red line being crossed. have a talk about it. and if it really does mean something to somebody,

they will go that extra bit further to make the deal happen. and it's about putting party politics to one side. i think being a leader and deciding is the way forward. there's 50% of people out there going to absolutely hate the deal, 50% are going to love it, but either way we need certainty in the country and we need to decide what we're going to do. i think you should have really skilled negotiators to do this role, rather than just civil servants, and you really need the best, so maybe they should come and ask me. to be on, why yeahs, get them in to do the job. there has been a very last minute to the oscar mam nation list, christian frazer, best supporting actor, only i'm afraid. what, does that mean you? you wonder, yeah. i know my

role in life. very good. i like the idea of trying to sort brexit as a second—hand car salesman, cup of tea, sit down, have a cup of tea, talk it out. good evening. not only did today bring a wintry feel to the weather, there was quite a wintry look for some of us as well. not all of us got to see snow, but there certainly was some for a weather watcher in buckinghamshire, and with further wintry showers to come tonight and tomorrow, as well as the potential for some icy surfaces, some travel disruption does look quite likely. your bbc local radio station will keep you up to date. the showers today came as a mixture of rain, sleet, hail and snow, the snow not only over the hills, even to low levels we saw a bit of snow, and as we go through the evening some of these wintry showers will continue, particularly across western parts of the uk, but also some are likely to linger across parts of east anglia and the south—east. clear skies and between the showers will allow it to get very cold indeed. widely between minus one and minus 5 degrees, some spots a little colder than that.

now, one potential headache for the morning rush hour tomorrow will be this little line of wintry showers, some snow perhaps in parts of east anglia just clipping into kent, a further few centimetres up over the downs, for example. and also some wintry showers likely across merseyside, east wales, down into the west midlands. most other areas starting sunny but very cold with some icy stretches, some showers into northern ireland and western scotland, eastern scotland largely dry with some sunshine, minus 12 perhaps first thing in some sheltered glens. and there could be some freezing fog patches, most likely across southern scotland and northern england, some of these slow to clwar through the day. at the showers towards the south—east should tend to ease off, i think, through the morning and into the afternoon. one or two showers continuing elsewhere, but generally, actually, a lot more in the way of dry weather during tomorrow, with some spells of sunshine, it won't feel particularly warm, though. more cloud later into northern ireland, and on thursday we continue to see that cloud advancing, bringing outbreaks of patchy light rain, some of it eventually fringing into western scotland, may be some snow over the mountains. elsewhere, another mainly dry but very chilly feeling day. however, this rain into the far north—west will continue to progress

eastwards as we go through thursday night, associated with this, a warm front, and as the name suggests, behind it to the air turns a little bit warmer, or milder at least. we do get into this wedge of milder airfor friday, but notice cold is still not too far away. so a milder day on friday, some cloud, patchy rain, through the weekend it will turn colder again. this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 8: police in guernsey have suspended their search for a missing plane. 0nboard were the pilot and 28—year—old argentinian footballer emiliano sala. the aircraft disappeared over the channel yesterday evening. hundreds of fans gathered in the french city this evening in tribute to the missing footballer and his pilot. the irish prime minister says the uk and ireland will need a separate agreement to avoid a hard border in the event of a no deal brexit.

british company dyson has announced that it is moving its headquarters from the uk to singapore. also on the programme... david attenborough calls on world leaders to do more to protect the natural world, in an interview with the