tv Beyond 100 Days BBC News January 23, 2019 7:00pm-8:01pm GMT
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you're watching beyond one hundred days... donald trump has a catchy new slogan for why america needs a border wall — but it won't help reopen the government. and a new poll suggests more people support the democrats in this standoff than support the president. the senate is voting on two bills to reopen government — one has border wall funding, one doesn't. don't worry about the details of either because they won't pass. mr trump sends a letter to nancy pelosi saying he will give his state of the union from congress next tuesday. she wants him to delay it. also on the programme... the private jets are landing in davos for the biggest networking event of the year. but this time there are some notable absentees. a reflection perhaps of the strains in western democracies. and these are live pictures from the alaskan town of thiagvik — which is looking forward to its first glimpse of sunlight in 66 days. hello — i'm katty kay in washington and christian
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fraser is in london. the us government shutdown slogans are getting catchier — yesterday the phrase of the day from the white house was " today president trump has a rhyme. build a wall & crime will fall! he tweeted. there's nothing particularly amusing about the pain thousands of federal workers are suffering. they will miss another pay day on friday. and still — after 33 days — neither side in washington looks ready for compromise. who do they blame? well a new cbs poll shows more americans want mr trump to give in than want him to stand firm. 66% would rather a new budget was agreed without a wall. but for the president's base the wall is very important. he'll be meeting conservative leaders in the white house in the next hour and they don't want him to give in. let's speak to mica mosbacher who's on the national advisory board for trump's 2020 re—election campaign. thank you for coming in, happy new
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year. everyone wants the government shutdown to enter but neither side wants to compromise, what good president trump do that his base would tolerate on the issue of immigration which would be a compromise? what is going on in the us is similarto compromise? what is going on in the us is similar to the uk. it tried to pass legislation is as tough as fitting socks on a rooster. what president trump has done is extend a reasonable offer. he has provided a three—year temporary extension for the workers... but social media says that was amnesty for illegal immigrants. it is not a mistake but he did hint if the democrats came to the table to negotiate, he would consider a permanent solution for these workers but he has also made
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other concessions in the form of an olive branch, $800 million for humanitarian relief on the border. additionaljudges which we definitely need. additional personnel and other concessions. 0ur problem is if the democrats will stay in their corner and not come to the table and negotiate, not put forward a reasonable counter offer, we have now starting point so the congress is now a do nothing house. could he carry his base with him on the concessions you have outlined and potentially giving green card status to those kids who have been brought here illegally? yes, i know we have some loud conservative voices in the base but they are far right, not far left is what nancy pelosi for example is dealing with. she is kowtowing to her base, the
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extreme she is kowtowing to her base, the extre m e left she is kowtowing to her base, the extreme left wing of the democratic party. the answer is despite the polling, i think what is going on in this country is individual americans who are suffering. i have friends and family suffering through this, cannot get a pay cheque. at the end of the day, the democrats will pay the price going into 2020, especially those who are up for re—election. the centrist democrats so re—election. the centrist democrats soi re—election. the centrist democrats so i think nancy pelosi has a problem. happy new year and good to see you. happy new year. let me put that paul up again, that reflects, as you know that is pretty much reflective of where the base is, you have to expand beyond the bees, get those floating voters, does it not
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worry you that he cannot seem to do that? a recent poll came out showing that? a recent poll came out showing that president trump has gained several percentage points with hispanics. they also understand the importance of border security. this is more than just about wall. democrats supported legislation in the past. the immigration system in this country is broken. it has not been fixed in decades, not even when 0bama had a majority. at this point, americans would like to see a solution. they would like to get back to work. it is up to the democrats, if they sit in their corners and pontificate and blame, we will never accomplish anything. the vote tomorrow is very important in the senate because it shows some movement. there is room for negotiation. i agree with cathy, i am not optimistic it will pass but
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it will at least put those senators on record. for what they are standing for it. i believe that republicans, even senator romney, will stand together united and that will stand together united and that will be very important for our party. you said that bipartisanship is as hard as fitting socks on a rooster, this is not the best start to the trump — pelosi relationship, is this indicative of the next two yea rs, is this indicative of the next two years, gridlock? i certainly hope not. senator pat cruise who called comres a do nothing congress during the election has proposed a limit. —— called our congress. i think nancy pelosi has a problem with so many individuals entering the democratic presidential race. we will see a split down the middle. a young senator represents a very hard
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line on the left of the party against centrist like nancy pelosi. soi against centrist like nancy pelosi. so i think she has a bigger problem going into 2020. they need a win, let us face it, they need are accomplishment and bipartisan legislation would be a step in the right direction. thank you very much. thank you very much. senator heidi heitkamp from north dakota was one of the senators who believed in reaching across aisle. but the democrat lost her reelection bid in the midterm elections. here is a look at some of her statements while serving in washington. this truly is a remarkable government and it is a remakable system, but it has always been remarkable because it's notjust the wealthy and powerful who have a voice in this body. with us comes the opportunity to speak for the most disadvantaged americans.
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the senate only works if we enable it to — that means each of us needs to do ourjob and we may not always agree but i know senators can work together as i have to get results and i know that part gridlock and partisanship does not have to rule the day. former senator heidi heitkamp joins us now from fargo north dakota. thank you forjoining the programme, you heard from a supporter of president trump say that democrats will pay the price for this government shutdown in 2020, the centrist democrats, people like yourself will not be re—elected because of this shutdown. that's what you call pumping sunshine, when you look at the spread in clear politics, the president's favourable is versus unfavourable is have flipped. even the poll he cites most often, he is down in double digits,
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he's seeing a serious erosion as a result of this impasse. at the end of the day, the american public will look and blame the person sitting in the white house because they expect that person to broker the deal is. this is the guy who got elected saying, i have a book called the art of the deal. we are not seeing any ability to bring people together to create a unifying governmental expression of where we're at. it is because we are governing by slogans set up by real issues. we can solve this impasse if we look at border security as a public policy issue. what can it look like, where does the wall work? let us just do the job of government. people were i live, in the middle of the country, are incredibly frustrated because the cv impact of this impasse but they also wonder, what is wrong with they also wonder, what is wrong with
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the people in washington, dc and why can they not govern? this is hurting the reputation of the president and the reputation of the president and the government. you know that in any negotiation, both sides have to compromise so what specifically would you be advising nancy pelosi to compromise on # rigid teller that after 33 days, it is time for democrats to give democrats the money for a border well in order that government workers can get their pay cheques? —— would you tell her that after 33 days. their pay cheques? —— would you tell her that after 33 dayslj their pay cheques? —— would you tell her that after 33 days. i think the compromise which is on the table right now which was originally advanced by lindsey graham, the majority leader said if the senate passes something they will take serious consideration. this is the
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opportunity for everybody to get on board to open up government for a couple of weeks, had the experts sit down and begin to negotiate on a public policy bases, not on a slogan bases what border security will look like. you talked about the loss of moderates and i think we're seeing what is happening when you see this huge partisan split without people in the middle trying to broker deals. with the government shutdown in 2013, it was not centrist came together to fashion a compromise. that is an opportunity that congress has again to pull people together. they fought and they go home. i suggest that if we vote and it does not work, i suggest we vote on another proposal because it is having dramatic effects here. we closely followed your fortunes on the midterms, the montana senator
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hung on but you and the indiana senator all went by the wayside. the moderates in the democratic party, is that a sign of the time that moderate democrats cannot exist?|j think moderate democrats cannot exist?” think we used to say all politics is local. now the slogan is all politics are cultural and the national. so many people see why do so national. so many people see why do so many people in your sleep or against their interests? you have to understand what you think their interests are from there perspective. even in north dakota, a lot of people question whether we need a wall. a lot of us who have been down there now it is totally impractical but the president promised a wall. of course mexico was going to pay for it but he believes this is the one thing he still has remaining that energises
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his base. the rest of the country sits back, let me tell you, we want the guy who did the art of the deal andi the guy who did the art of the deal and i can make things work. let us see the art of the deal and pull things together. that is a promise which has not been kept, that he is someone which has not been kept, that he is someone who gets things done. how this is affecting things in north da kota, this is affecting things in north dakota, your voters until recently? well, obviously, the agricultural sector is being affected. this is the time of the year when we need the time of the year when we need the government offices that assist farmers to be open so farmers can understand the new farm bill which has just been passed so they can make their planting decisions and 110w make their planting decisions and now they have a legitimate safety net. they also don't know because so much of the government has shut down what is happening with chinese soy beans. you remember the discussion during the campaign but we do not
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know where our markets are or where we are doing well. in the agricultural sector, this shutdown is affecting the decisions of farmers but probably most dramatically is on the indian reservations where you see it. when we talk about the trades, a lot of people in your country probably think these are welfare programmes, but these are treaty obligations. in almost all the treaties that govern oui’ almost all the treaties that govern our relationship between the federal government and our tribes in north da kota government and our tribes in north dakota provide for health care, education and housing. all of those things are by the wayside and so right now were a huge proportion of the native economy is based on these government programmes, that is being absolutely decimated and so that one person who gets a pay cheque which
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might be supporting six family members is not getting a pay cheque and were already stretched so thin, this is the highest rate of poverty in country on indian reservations and we cannot afford this disruption to our economy but yet, here we set. what is really interesting to me, they sent workers back to the irs so they sent workers back to the irs so they could in fact issue the income tax refunds in this filing season. we need workers back on the reservations and those folks to get a pay cheque. a reminder that so many people are being affected across the country. good to talk to you, do come on the programme again. my my spies tell me you went for haircut today and you met some influential people at the
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hairdresser. you saw nancy pelosi. it is interesting she is getting calls from democrats saying you have to reopen government and get the paycheque to people who work for government. she said they are getting some of those calls, especially in more conservative districts but overwhelming the calls coming into democratic offices asking them to stand firm on the issue of the wall and not capitulate. they argue that if we capitulate. they argue that if we capitulate on this incident, the president will hold us hostage again or every time we disagree with them. he was shut down the government and he will expect us to cave again. that is what they are filling up the moment. she is adamant they will not reopen the government. they will not be held hostage so this stand—off, 33 days in continues. interesting that section about globalisation
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because we have the davos economic forum. the great and the wealthy are in davos again for the world economic forum. but this year several world leaders are missing. theresa may has stayed home to deal with brexit, donald trump skipped davos to deal with the shutdown, emmanuel macron is also home facing a populist backlash against big business. their absence spurred our next guest to remark on twitter — that this year, the ratio of dictatorships to democracies in davos is now seriously skewed towards the bad guys. the american born british financier bill browder, who lives under permanent threat from russia, joins us from davos. good to have you with us. regarding your tweet, it might feel like the bad guys are making impressions there at davos but is that factually correct? the german chancellor is there and the japanese leader is there. you also have the entire saudi contingent, you have lots of people from russia from the putin
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regime. kazakhstan and various other dictatorships. davos, the slogan is committed to make the world a better place but there are a lot of people and others who are committed to making their own subjects a lot worse off. i see it all over the place and it does not feel comfortable among the people i describe as bad guys. is it indicative of the troubles in western democracies that so many of the leaders are not there? when you consider what they are battling at home, it is curious to him for the conference is globalism 4.0. this seems out of touch with the wave of nationalism and populism around the globe. i think the slogan should be how do we fight nationalism and populism and chauvinism and racism? because those are the issues of the day. davos has never been known to
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be an honest place of honest discussion, it is a business place where they invite wealthy people... sorry to interrupt but when you have a headline like that, globalism 4.0, does that show how out of touch the elite are about the concerns of people around the world?” elite are about the concerns of people around the world? i do not think it is about the elite, it is about people who organise the conference. the people who come here of course are really out of touch. i read there were 1500 private jets at nearby airports shuttling these people to talk about things like climate change so it is a bit of a hypocritical situation here. let me play devils advocate, it is easy to slam davos because they fly in on their debts and had champagne party, it is the elite talking to the elite, is there something achieved
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which is worthwhile? beyond just the business community and their own shareholders which makes this worthwhile for you to be there?” shareholders which makes this worthwhile for you to be there? i am here because i am an activist that is fighting against the regime of vladimir putin and trying to impose sanctions against russia. i come here because that is a rich mix of government officials, leaders of media organisations and business people. with that mix, i have an opportunity to make my point and make it strongly and make it with people who might make a difference so people who might make a difference so from my perspective, i can do good and i can advance my agenda of trying to contain and stop russia from doing bad things. it is not all bad in davos but a lot of people are not here for altruistic reasons, they are here to make money.” not here for altruistic reasons, they are here to make money. i was there last year because president trump was there and the mood was
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giddy about the world economy, although ceos were seeing profits we re although ceos were seeing profits were doing extremely well but this fa ct were doing extremely well but this fact you have no theresa may, no emmanuel macron and no donald trump, is that casting a pall on things there or not? it is not so much their absence but the reason for it. you have a trade war with china, us government shutdown, brexit and the potential catastrophe of a hard brexit and all the problems in france. this is indicative of an uncertain, frightening world. those reasons to cast a pall over it but us as reasons to cast a pall over it but us as people of davos who are all crossing their fingers and hoping that the party punchbowl stays cool. —— but the business people of davos. prince william was opening the davos
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gathering yesterday, calling business leaders to get on with the practical solutions needed to prevent environmental damage, 1500 private jets jetted in this week which is the wreckers, hardly in keeping with environmental problems. yet despite the 1500 jets, you still have a slew of activists who go along and join the conference. every yeari along and join the conference. every year i wonder if it will be relevant but every year it goes on. nearly in its 50th year. indeed. let us look at some other news now. us president donald trump says he recognises venezuelan opposition leaderjuan guaido as interim president. tens of thousands of venezuela ns are taking to the streets in protest against president nicolas maduro. mr guaido, who called for the demonstrations, declared himself acting leader in caracas today. activist groups claim at least four people were killed overnight ahead
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of the demonstrations. a leading brexit supporter — the mp jacob rees—mogg says he believes theresa may's deal could be "reformed" to win round opponents. the deadlock has been over the irish border — and the so called "backstop" arrangement. today's comments have fuelled speculation mr rees—mogg and other brexiteers could now be persuaded to support the prime minister's deal. the government of zimbabwe has defended the crackdown by its security forces, following viole nt protests over rising fuel prices. a spokesman told the bbc, ‘when things get out of hand, a bit of firmness is needed'. zimbabwe's human rights commission has accused the security forces of using systematic torture against protestors. italy's far right interior minister, matteo salvini, has said the european union's mission to combat people smuggling in the central med will have to close unless its rules are changed. mr salvini reiterated his objections to migrants rescued in the course of operation sophia being disembarked in italy. today the people
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of thiagvik, alaska, will turn their faces to the horizon, to some sunlight. for the first time in 66 days. the town formerly known as barrow, population 4,300, is one of the northernmost communities in the world, at a latitude of 71.2 degrees north. this we believe is the webcam in thiagvik — they last saw the sun on nov. 18. today a fleeting segment of the sun will appear in the south beginning at1:04 p.m. local time, it will sink below the horizon about an hour later, at 2:14 pm. and only the solar disk — so not even direct sunlight, just a slither of light. what is it like to live when you do
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not see the sun for 66 days and then you see a little sliver for one hour ten minutes? you would have to put your shades on. what does the name of the town mean? go on. it is inuit for digging of the town mean? go on. it is inuit fordigging up of the town mean? go on. it is inuit for digging up potatoes. i knew that. then you carry them in a barrel which used to be the own name. this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news — the teenager at the centre of a controversial viral video has spoken publicly to defend his behaviour. and some of the uk's biggest instagram stars have agreed to disclose when they're being paid to promote products online. that's still to come. good evening. a few different types of winter weather across the uk today.
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for some there have been further wintry showers, for others, look at this, beautiful blue skies in derbyshire and for some, spots of fog lingered all day long, holding the temperatures down below freezing. what has been picked up down the spine of the uk is lying snow. we have had some cloud in the south east corner, bringing wintry showers, more extensive cloud across western fringes. we will keep that through tonight. further wintry showers across parts of north—west scotland and these wintry flourishes bringing sleet and snow drifting southwards across northern england. where we have the extra cloud in the west, not as cold, but for most of us it is another very cold and frosty night. from east anglia, northern england and up to scotland there is the potential of ice. during the rush hour, this line of rain, sleet and snow drifting across east anglia could cause one
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or two traffic issues and make it slippery. quite a cloudy day across the south—east corner. the rest of east england and scotland, sunshine, further west more cloud. outbreaks of patchy rain, it will be rain because in the west, those temperatures will be climbing, further east it is another chilly day. from thursday to friday, we bring this warm front further eastward across the british isles, that will bring patchy rain but will introduce the milder air. the cold air you will notice is not too far away but friday will be a very different feeling day. double digit temperatures in some places. a lot of cloud, some patchy rain, a bit of brightness especially in the east, 10 degrees in newcastle, 11 for cardiff and plymouth. but rain picking up across western scotland leads in the day. during friday night and into saturday we bring this band of heavy rain south with strong winds.
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0n the edge of the rain, we start to see snow, especially over high ground because as the rain pushes southwards, we open the door once again to some cold air. once that returns, it remains on sunday, also a windy day and it stays chilly into next week. this is beyond 100 days — with me, katty kay in washington, christian fraser is in london. our top stories. donald trump rejects calls to delay his state of the union address because of the government shutdown. president trump's former lawyer michael cohen has postponed his testimony to congress — claiming the president has issued threats against his family. coming up in the next half hour. aretribalpolitics slowing , , ti—tifijsfitfifiown’e an e . we look at the polarisation of issues and what that means for the functioning of governments. and so—called influencers on instagram agree to disclose when they're being paid for posts. donald trump is pushing ahead
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with plans to deliver his state of the union — despite requests from nancy pelosi that he postpone it due to the continued government shutdown. in a letter to the speaker, the president said: ron christie, former advisor to george w bush is with us now. hello to you ron, you are going to give us the friendly reminder the president cannotjust give us the friendly reminder the president cannot just show give us the friendly reminder the president cannotjust show up and
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speak on january 29th, president cannotjust show up and speak onjanuary 29th, it is not as simple as that. it is never as simple as that. it is never as simple as that. it is never as simple as it seems, by tradition the speaker of the house invites the president to come to capital and deliver the address, it is important to recognise 26 of our 45 presidents have done this in person and several have done this in person and several have not. but the notion that we have not. but the notion that we have these dualling letters between the speaker of the house who is in charge of legislative branch of one chamber and president i find extraordinary. and also ron, the senate has to pass a resolution, the house has to pass a resolution, both have to pass for the president to come but if nancy pelosi says don't pass it what does he do, knock on the door? not unlike the house of commons where the queen is coming at the door. i think president trump and his allied want to find a wait out of this. they don't want to have the government shut down going won
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the government shut down going won the speaker of the house behind him, she could be growling at him, the democrats could be booing at him. that image is not a good one. i have heard that the president is entertaining the notion ofjust going to the senate chamber, could you imagine that? we have never done that before. could he and would his do it? it is interesting, all the options are on the table. let us ask about another story and that is michael cohen, the president's former lawyer, who was meant to testify before congress on february 7th, about his dealings with mr trump, particularly over payments to a former porn star and what he knew about that. he has now said he is not going to testify, because he says his family is under threat from the white house. what is going on? another extraordinary story here, you have heard from his counsel in fa ct you have heard from his counsel in fact that michael cohen feels like he is being terrorised by the president. what i believe we have here is the fact that someone who does not want to go up and testify under oath under penalty of personalry on february 7th. what
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better way to get out of it than say that mr giuliani and donald trump are intimidating this potential witness. clever by half, but the political notion is significant. neither donald trump nor coen want to be, want him to testify, the president undoubtedly does not want to be embarrassed and mr cohen i believe doesn't want to perjury himself under oath. stay with us ron, we talked about the reaction to a viral video showing a confrontation between kentucky teenagers earlier in the week we talked about the reaction to a viral video showing a confrontation between kentucky teenagers and a native american elder. the teenagers were initially disparaged for disrespecting the older man. but several versions of the video have been circulating, complicating the narrative. nick sandmann, the teenager at the centre of the screen, has spoken to nbc‘s today show and defended his behaviour. as far as standing there, i had every right to do so. i don't... my position, i was not disrespectful to mr philips, i respect him.
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i'd like to talk to him. i mean, in hindsight i wish we could have walked away and avoided the whole thing, but i can't say i'm sorry for listening to him and standing there. a good story for the white house this, because predominantly the liberal media jumped on this store i r they took a view and it has liberal media jumped on this store i rthey took a view and it has been walked back since, other videos complicate the issue but it's the very fa ct complicate the issue but it's the very fact that the liberal media went after it, that probably plays to the sort of line that the white house is taking on it.” to the sort of line that the white house is taking on it. i think that is right. look, you have a number of young white students wearing the make america great again hat. it fits into the narrative they are young racists from kentucky, but yet we see what actually happened. they we re we see what actually happened. they were confronted by a group of black folks who were yelling at them.
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confronted by this native american gentleman banging a drum. the rush tojudgment is gentleman banging a drum. the rush to judgment is going gentleman banging a drum. the rush tojudgment is going to go to gentleman banging a drum. the rush to judgment is going to go to what donald trump says hashtag fake news and made up conspiracy theories and you know the president is enjoying the media of walking this back. push back on this characterisation it was the media, fox news were tough on them too. the catholic archdiocese was also pretty tough on them. i don't know if this is just about the liberal media, this is more an indication where we live in a time where one bit of information comes out. everybody rushes to judgment and they don't wait for the facts to come in fair point. the march for life, the reason they were town came out and condemned the students shortly thereafter, so the nature of why they were there in the first place. everybody looks bad in this. we should not rush to judgment. it shows you the responsibility the
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media has and they have to make sure they get the story right and this case they didn't. police searching the english channel for a missing cardiff city footballer say they're focusing on the possibility that the plane he was travelling in landed on the water — and that he and the pilot made it into a life—raft. emiliano sala was flying in a light aircraft from france to cardiff when it disappeared from radar screens on monday night. he had just signed for cardiff city and was due to start training at the club this week. sian lloyd reports. a second day of searching the waters off the coast of the channel islands but there have been no sightings. a number of rescue teams have been working today but hopes of finding the men are fading. the aircraft was piloted by david ibbotson from north lincolnshire. this is the plane that emiliano sala was travelling in — it's registered in the us but is thought to have british owners. it was filmed by the bbc in 2015 as part of a report about light aircraft. on monday evening, it was carrying
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the argentinian striker from france to cardiff, where he was about to join his new club. the 28—year—old recorded a voice message to friends from on—board in which he spoke of safety concerns. at home in argentina, his family are desperately waiting for news. translation: the hours go by and it makes me think of the worst. i just want them to find him. the last thing they said is that the communication ended translation: the hours go by and it makes me think of the worst. i just want them to find him. the last thing they said is that the communication ended when they crossed the channel. emiliano sala signed a £50 million deal to play for cardiff city — a club record. today, the management confirmed
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that the club had not booked the flight from france to south wales, explaining that the footballer had made his own arrangements. outside the stadium, more flowers and messages are being left. the team and fans are in shock, they'd been looking forward to his first game here. we were so excited to see him and he's obviously not here, so, yeah, we are very sad. he never wore the shirt for cardiff city but once you're a bluebird, you're always a bluebird. he signed on the dotted line as a bluebird. his former club nantes have changed their twitter profile to include a picture of the star and, outside the ground, flowers for a player who was popular there. air accident investigators have begun their inquiry but finding the plane will be crucial. sian lloyd, bbc news, cardiff. nancy pelosi has respond odd the
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president and she says that resolution we talked about, she says she is not contemplating holding that resolution, she says i look forward to welcoming you to the house on an agreeable date when government has been re—opened. let us see i looked at the running order of our programme this afternoon and it looked depressingly similar to the running order yesterday — that's because politics, on both sides of the atlantic, has been brought to a virtual standstill in recent weeks. the uk and the us are in gridlock over single issues. in the united states it's trump's wall — in the uk it's brexit. each day we seem to be debating the same intractable problems. is there any hope of compromise, some pragmitism? or is politics in the us and the uk now so deeply tribal that these two great powers are in real danger
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of slipping behind the others? here to discuss it, is sophia gaston. she is the director of the centre on social and political risk. welcome to the studio. what is it that these two major economies aren't doing, because of these twin issues, brexit and the wall? are they truly slipping behind other countries? well, i think it is important to think of the brexit referendum and the 2016 election as a steam valve for a whole host of economic and social issues which have been off the agenda for a long time. in the aftermath of these votes, we saw new forms of identity emerging so you are either for trump or against emerging so you are either for trump oragainst him. emerging so you are either for trump or against him. you are leave or remain. what we have seen in the two—and—a—half year since is that the political parties and these identities have become linked. so the two major parties have absolutely doubled down on both
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sides of these divides and we have seen sides of these divides and we have seen their supporters and their support bases double. what has happened as a result of that, is that the political incentive for compromise and consensus building has been fundamentally eroded. so what you are saying is maybe it is cathartic to bring to the forethings that were bubbling underneath, although some would say the eu and leaving the eu was never top of the list of priorities but it has not been cathartic, it has made us more divided within society and our politics reflects that? yes, whatever you think of the outcomes of the 2016 election or the brexit referendum, they did bring some issues that really needed to be debated and discussed on the agenda, the problem is that everything that that has happened since has absolutely eroded the capacity to have any nuanced or pragmatic discussion at the insure, they have meant we can't address the issue,
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there is a kind of paralysis at the moment and i think there are real reasons to be concerned about the future of our democracy, when i do focus groups it is clear these language, this animosity and the nature of politics it is seeping down into the way in which ordinary people view the political institution, view the political systems and also the way in which they start to see each other as citizen, and that is problematic, if we need to think of ourselves as one community, for our liberal democracies to function. so i was wondering whether it is that no other government business is getting done, because in the us people are so focussed top shut down and in the uk they are focussed on brexiter, or are other things happening behind the scenes but because they not headline news people aren't talking about them on television, they are not talking about them on social media so we don't know they are happening. they are not getting
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attention. i think it is true there are small elements of progress on both sides, they are not in complete paralysis or shut down. this is where the uk and the us became different, in the us i do think there is a political motivation behind the paralysis, whereas in the uk, i think it is more the task at hand. brexit is such a monumental ask of any kind of government, it is not just politics is ask of any kind of government, it is notjust politics is in programme sip session, the civil service is going —— the civil service is having to go through thousands of statute. i think they are different beasts in that respect. good to see you, thank you for coming in. interesting, yesterday, one group were looking at polling round the country, they decided people now identify as levers or remainers more than they identify with political parties, we
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are so entrenched and obsessed by brexit we identify ourselves as a lever or remainor. that is not that not happening here, there is not cross—party support for president trump or cross—party cross— party president trump or cross—party cross—party support for immigration or the wall, it is a party divided issue. in britain it is partly the band width is taken up with this massive negotiation the government has to go through. this is beyond 100 days. still still to come — some of the world's biggest instagram influencers have agreed to make it clear when they're being paid to endorse a product — but is it stricter regulation that's needed? a man wanted for the manslaughter of a 24—year—old woman, who was thrown out of his speedboat on the river thames, is now being held in police custody in the georgian capital, tiblisi. jack shepherd, who's 31, had gone on the run before being convicted of killing charlotte brown on a first
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date in december 2015. our correspondent sarah campbell reports. there had been rumoured sightings of him as far afield as turkey and thailand. but after months on the run, jack shepherd finally handed himself in, in the former soviet state of georgia. a fugitive from justice, before speaking to the police, he gave an interview to a local television station. yes, my name is jack shepherd. he said he was involved in a tragic accident in 2015, in which a lady called charlotte brown tragically died. charlotte was just 24 when she was killed. she was on a first date with jack shepherd. he'd taken herfor a meal and then out on to the thames on his speed boat. charlotte took this footage on her mobile phone. they'd been drinking, he was speeding, he let her take controls, the boat crashed and overturned. charlotte died.
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shepherd, who is now 31, was arrested, but vanished before his trial at the old bailey even began. he was convicted in his absence of manslaughter by gross negligence and sentenced to six years in prison. in a statement this evening, graeme brown, charlotte's father, thanked all those who had supported the family and said he felt very very emotional at the fact his daughter will get some justice. after months on the run, jack shepherd is now in the custody of georgian police, with extradition proceedings set to bring him back to the uk. sarah campbell, bbc news. some of the uk's biggest instagram stars have agreed that in future they will clearly disclose when they are paid to promote products online. the competition and markets authority has secured formal
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commitments from 16 stars who they believe were posting undisclosed ads in their social media accounts. katty alexa chung, rita ora and ellie goulding are among them. they are so—called ‘key influencers'. between them they have over 30 million followers. gold dust to the big brands. joining us from warwick is leo mandella, known on instagram as gully guy leo and who has over 700 000 followers. and in nottingham rohan midha, the managing director of pmyb, one of the biggest agencies managing instagram influencers in the uk. cross— party cross— party cross—party cross—party support let me start with you first of all, because you are the person that encouraging these stars to go out and put advertising online, is it as simple as maybe putting hashtag ad on, would that solve the problem?
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0k, on, would that solve the problem? ok, so, in quite a lot of situation, yes it is as simple let me start with you first of all, because you are the person that encouraging these stars to go out and put advertising online, is it as simple as maybe putting hashtag ad on, would that solve the problem? ok, so, in quite a lot of situation, yes it is as simple as putting #ad, the main point of all of this, is that every single time an influencer is paid to promote a product or a service, it is very important those promotions are disclosed, so when consumers are watching these videos, that these influencers are creating or looking at their instagram feed they are aware when this person they admire, and they follow, and who shapes their opinions, is being paid to promote or endorse a product or service, compared to when they actually are doing it because they really like that product or service, and that disclosure is very important. 0k. and that disclosure is very important. ok. i read that the tv star kylejenner who has more than
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116 million followers on instagram, 25 million on twitter and 21 million on facebook, so that is a lot. she earned three—quarters of a million pounds from one post. how much do you earn? well, that is, that is something i have been taught not to discuss, that the money i everyone. 0k, discuss, that the money i everyone. ok, go on. discuss, that the money i everyone. 0k, go on. it is an all right amount but i wouldn't say it publicly, something my manager talks about. but you get paid? yes which is what is good about it and that is why it helps, as much as i enjoy it. i i would never talk about the figures. so you write a blog, who typically comes towards you and says you know what, leo, stick this on your site and we will send a cheque in the post, who would do that? it is not a blog, it is more like an instagram page, a lot of brands approach me
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but i only go for brand like i enjoy and wear formally because my page is so and wear formally because my page is so like authentic and organic, it is stuff i like. i only ever choose the ones i like to wear. so i think christian was revealing his lack of being an instagram influencer, people i know who are in your position, it is notjust the fact they get monetary policy of course they get monetary policy of course they also get sent merchandise as well, is it hard work, how many posts are you putting out a day? well, is it hard work, how many posts are you putting out a day7m is hard work in a sense but also it is hard work in a sense but also it is something i have enjoyed sol don't see it as work, a lot of the timel don't see it as work, a lot of the time i will post two posts a week, it is about going out. finding the best background, if you looked you would see that is what i do, the background thing and matching outfit, it is not hard work but it takes a lot of effort to get the perfect picture. what do row do to let your followers know whether you
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have been paid or not paid?” let your followers know whether you have been paid or not paid? i never tag brands on my page so a lot of the time i will tag the brand if it is paid. i like to keep it organic, there is a hint it has been paid by there is a hint it has been paid by the tag, i like to kind of keep it myself, and as sleek as possible. rohan, the fundamental concept here, is that people buy from people they trust and is that people buy from people they trustand admire, is that people buy from people they trust and admire, and what the cma is saying, the people we trust and admire are pulling the wool over our eyes? yes, so pmyb tends to go the extra mile and ensure all of the ads are disclosed, so, we would for example as fundamental concept here, is that people buy from people they trust and is that people buy from people they trustand admire, is that people buy from people they trust and admire, and what the cma is saying, the people we trust and admire are pulling the wool over our eyes? yes, so pmyb tends to go the extra mile and ensure all of the ads are disclosed, so, we would for
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example as you mentioned before, put #ad because we like to keep within the regulation and although, tagging a brand may be nonu normal it is important on a post by post basis we disclose that, when you are right in saying that the fundamental concept of influencer markets is that the people that we trust and admire are influencing their followers to, to act ina influencing their followers to, to act in a certain way, to purchase a certain product, so that disclosure is very important. it is like in a tv spot, you know that when the advert‘s are on tv and a celebrity is on you know that is an advert because it is very obvious but on social media it is very different and it is important that consumers do not believe that a post or endorsement that is actually, has been paid for before a brand, it is a free, a genuine endorsement, you know. leo, final question, you are 16 years old, is? going to be your career? well, that is the question, lam starting
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career? well, that is the question, i am starting to go a lot into djing, but this is something i am doing right now, focussing my time on, iwant doing right now, focussing my time on, i want to stay within the creative world but i am not 100% if this is going to be forever. a big pa rt of this is going to be forever. a big part of what this is is my age so as i grow older i have to grow into something else as well. thank you very much forjoining us, i cannot tell you how jealous very much forjoining us, i cannot tell you howjealous poppy would be. i think tell you howjealous poppy would be. ithinki tell you howjealous poppy would be. i think i might be unwittingly promoting the life—changing benefits of burnley football club. maybe i need to disclose that. i am not sure you are today doesn'tjust mark the 33rd day of the shutdown of the us government, or 65 days until brexit. arguably far less importantly, it's also two years since we came on air for the first time. yes, officially, beyond 100 days has become beyond two years which is beyond belief. ithink become beyond two years which is beyond belief. i think the a ccou nta nts beyond belief. i think the
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accountants don't know we are still on air. the budget fore this programme ran out in march 2017, but in the off chance that they don't know we are still on air i splashed out today and i got us this. know we are still on air i splashed outt i lay and i got us this. know we are still on air i splashed outt i got|nd i got us this. know we are still on air i splashed outt i got it? i got us this. know we are still on air i splashed outt i got it? itjot us this. know we are still on air i splashed outt i got it? itjot uséike a giant have i got it? it looks like a giant silver snake. i have to be careful because it is filled with helium. it has a rock on the bottom. so happy birthday katty. ron is still here, it looks like a weird giant silver snake. i have something too, to say happy birthday to you christian, all here, there is a little two. the way here, there is a little two. there you go. that is it. i more, we will have to go back to our well, we will have to go back to our home—made graphics because we won't be able to afford any more! we need ron in this, because we are very happy, ron, that you have spent the last two years coming on this programme, it has been a pleasure of
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doing beyond 100 days. my pleasure. hgppy doing beyond 100 days. my pleasure. happy birth day do you both. we don't look a year older. we will be back here tomorrow with happy birth day two years plus one day. see you back here tomorrow, guys. good evening. a few different types of winter weather across the uk today. for some there have been further wintry showers, for others, look at this, beautiful blue skies in derbyshire and for some, spots of fog lingered all day long, holding the temperatures down below freezing. what has been picked up down the spine of the uk is lying snow. we have had some cloud in the south east corner, bringing wintry showers, more extensive cloud across western fringes. we will keep that through tonight. further wintry showers across parts of north—west scotland and these wintry flourishes bringing sleet and snow drifting southwards
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across northern england. where we have the extra cloud in the west, not as cold, but for most of us it is another very cold and frosty night. from east anglia, northern england and up to scotland there is the potential of ice. during the rush hour, this line of rain, sleet and snow drifting across east anglia could cause one or two traffic issues and make it slippery. quite a cloudy day across the south—east corner. the rest of east england and scotland, sunshine, further west more cloud. outbreaks of patchy rain, it will be rain because in the west, those temperatures will be climbing, further east it is another chilly day. from thursday to friday, we bring this warm front further eastward across the british isles, that will bring patchy rain but will introduce the milder air. the cold you will notice is not too far away but friday will be a very different feeling day. double digit temperatures in some places. a lot of cloud, some patchy rain, a bit of brightness especially in the east, 10 degrees in newcastle, 11 for cardiff and plymouth. rain picking up across western scotland leads in the day. during friday night and into saturday we bring this band of heavy rain with strong winds. on the edge of the rain, we start to see snow, especially over high ground because as the rain pushes southwards, we open the door once again to some cold air.
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was that returns, it remains on sunday, also a windy day and it stays chilly into next week. this is bbc news, i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 8pm: a man convicted of killing a woman in a speedboat crash while on a date has handed himself in after months on the run. charlotte brown died in december 2015. her father says he's relieved jack shepherd's now in custody in georgia, but says he's showing no remorse. his actions have led to the loss of my daughter, and charlotte was a beautiful daughter and would still be here today and he doesn't seem to have grasped that fact. he's still acting like the victim. guernsey police say they're suspending the search for the plane carrying the cardiff city footballer emiliano sala and his pilot david ibbotson for a second night.
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