tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News February 8, 2019 10:00am-11:01am GMT
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hello, it's friday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. after katie price exclusively told this programme she's struggling to cope with caring for her disabled son harvey and is considering moving him into residential care, we've brought together lots of you who got in contact with our programme to share your experiences. an ee customer whose ex—partner worked at the firm and accessed her personal data without permission has told this programme exclusively how he went on to stalk her. endless phone calls from different numbers, text messages. so much so that i ended up in the police station because i was rather frightened. he would turn up always at night, so, on my way back from night, i would find him there. —— on my way back from work. and this cat, fluffy, made an astonishing recovery after being frozen in the us polar vortex. thanks, in part, to this. we will bring you that story in the
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next hour. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until ”am this morning. get in touch this morning. we will talk about some of the agonising decisions some of you have to make in terms of the care of your children with disabilities. get in touch with your own experiences. before all that a summary of the news. a body pulled from the wreckage of a plane carrying emiliano sala has been identified as that of the missing cardiff striker. dorset police confirmed the identification of the body last night. the plane went missing off the channel islands on the 21st of january. the pilot, david ibbotson, has not been found. amazon founderjeff bezos has
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accused the owner of the celebrity tabloid the national enquirer of extortion and blackmail. mr bezos, who is the world's richest man, posted a message online showing what he claims are emailed threats to publish intimate photographs of the billionaire and a woman he was having an affair with. theresa may will continue her mission to make changes to the brexit withdrawal agreement when she meets her irish counterpart, leo va radkar, in dublin this evening. the prime minister is seeking changes to the controversial backstop which is designed to prevent a hard border on the island of ireland. ahead of of the talks, the taoiseach will travel to northern ireland to meet leaders of the mains parties, including the dup and sinn fein. an ee customer has told this programme exclusively she was stalked by an ex—partner who worked at the firm, after he accessed her personal data without permission. francesca bonafede has told us she had to call the police after her address and personal data were accessed without permission
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and her phone number was switched over to a new handset. the mobile phone giant say it's "horrified". and is there any truth to "beer before wine and you'll feel fine, wine before beer — oh dear"? well, a study by the university of cambridge has refuted the idea that the severity of a hangover can be reduced by the order in which we have alcoholic drinks. the research found that drinking a lot of alcohol inevitably causes a bad hangover. who'd have thought it?! do you live in a privately rented house or flat and are struggling to make ends meet? a new report suggests there are now half a million more children living in poverty in privately rented homes in england than there were ten years ago. the national housing federation is blaming high property prices and a shortage of social housing. do get in touch with us throughout the morning. use the hashtag #victorialive. first...
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"harvey has smashed eight ipads this year" and "is a danger to himself." that is what katie price told us about her 16—year—old son on this programme on wednesday. she exclusively revealed to us that she and her other children are struggling to cope with the teenager, and she's considering moving him into residential care on weekdays. harvey is partially blind, autistic and has prader—willi syndrome, which is a rare genetic condition that causes a wide range of physical symptoms, learning difficulties and behavioural problems. since then, so many of you have got in touch to say you can relate to what katie price is going through. some of you have told us you decided to go down the residential route. others have tried alternative methods, like respite care, with mixed results. and so, we're going to spend the first part of our programme today hearing from you about the decisions you've taken when it comes to caring for your children with disabilities. and wherever you are in the uk, let us know your own stories. first, here are katie and harvey price talking
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to me earlier this week. i don't think people realise how actually hard it is. today, before we came, i had to bath him, wash him. because he can't do it himself. i had to dress him. literally, i do everything for you, you're like the king. mm—hm. he wets the bed twice a night. he needs all these meds here to survive. if he doesn't have these, he will literally die. have you ever considered whether you could get extra help for harvey, ie, residential care? this is the thing. it has got to the stage now, what do you do at home now, in mummy‘s house, what have you been doing, that mummy doesn't like? i smash the windows. yes, and how many tvs did you smash? lots. and how many ipads? eight. this year you've smashed eight ipads. he doesn't realise the expense of them as well. and he's a danger to himself. the first time ever, i'm thinking he might have to go residential monday to friday. he knows if he kicks off in the morning, the driver won't take him to school. so he's sussed that.
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and he's missing out on his education. he just wants to be with me all the time, don't you, harv? yeah. it's so hard. i have never had respite, never had a carerfor him. i do it all myself. yeah, i'm really having to think about it. but i hate it because he's my life. but i have to do what's best for him. it won't be forever. don't do that, please. that will be a very hard decision. i know. but when he's smashing things, and the kids are a bit scared of him because he's big, chasing and stuff. i've got to do it for him. if there's anyone out there who can give me some advice, how do you cope, going into residential. we can do that. let's talk now to abi aspinall. she contacted our programme after watching our katie price interview. her older sister stacy, who's 31, was placed in residential care when looking after her got too much for the family. also here is abi and stacy's mum, ros. they're from preston. lyndon harvey also contacted us after wednesday's programme. he and his wife have given up work to take care of their 14—year—old son matthew.
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they haven't ruled out residential care in the future. they live in devon. debbie andrioli's son, also called matthew, he's 15 and has asperger s syndrome and goes to a residential school in banbury, oxfordshire. we are hoping to talk to one more viewer but we are sorting out the technical side. thank you for getting in touch after that interview on wednesday. tell us about stacy who turns 31 this year. when she was born she was diagnosed with a condition called joubert‘s syndrome which means part of the brain is missing and that is the pa rt brain is missing and that is the part that communicates between the left and right. she is severely handicapped, the equivalent of a six month baby. no communication, she cannot walk, she is doubly incontinent, very difficult to deal with when you are given news like that. and tell us, what impact does having a severely disabled sister,
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daughter, have on the family.” think it is one that people don't appreciate how it affects everyone, it is notjust about appreciate how it affects everyone, it is not just about the appreciate how it affects everyone, it is notjust about the person appreciate how it affects everyone, it is not just about the person with the disability, is how the parents cope, the siblings almost become carers but they are pushed to the sidelines because they don't have the needs that the disabled person has. and i think that is the biggest thing, people don't appreciate how it affects the family as a whole rather thanjust the it affects the family as a whole rather than just the individual. when you have other children, you are continually trying to balance the amount of care that your child with special needs has with the other children. no matter how hard you try, your other children do lose out. my elder two children, who are older than stacy, certainly lost out a lot more stuff they were to going out for treats, days at the beach, and stacy came along, we can't do any f that so they missed out on
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that whereas the twins, abi and sophie, stacy was already there. —— any of that. and in terms of your daily routine, looking after your daughter, tell us what that is like because it is 21w. daughter, tell us what that is like because it is 24/7. it is, with stacy particularly we had a big feeding problem. although she does not need feeding tubes, she was incredibly difficult. my husband was really patient, he would spend two hours feeding her. we used to have to trick her into thinking she was getting something sweet by dipping everything in yoghurt. there was the continual care, change of clothes, nappies... and quite physically demanding things, hoisting her into the bath. yes, we used to have to carry her upstairs because we did not have those things. that was
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white we eventually came to the decision as a family that we needed help and we needed it on a 24/7 basis. because we could not manage the physical things with her. was that a hard decision in the end or had you got to the point of almost breaking and you thought, we simply can't go breaking and you thought, we simply can‘ breaking and you thought, we simply can't go on? it was a really difficult decision. this is your child, it does not matter what disabilities they have got, how disappointed you were when you were first told, it is almost like a bereavement initially but it is still your child and even though there is no communication, you know that child, you know what it means when she has a certain expression on herface. it is when she has a certain expression on her face. it is very difficult and also, with stacy being nonverbal, it is very difficult because you worry all the time, it's something happening to her and she can't tell you? happening to her and she can't tell you ? fortunately, happening to her and she can't tell you? fortunately, we can tell when she is happy and we know that when
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she is happy and we know that when she comes home and they come to pick herup to take she comes home and they come to pick her up to take her back, she smiles and she is happy so we know she is being well cared for. the carers do a brilliantjob. being well cared for. the carers do a brilliant job. and on the flip side, residential care has given her something we did not provide as a family will stop she goes to disneyland, she has been abseiling, she goes on days out and holidays, goes swimming and that is not something we could provide for her, with all the other things going on so with all the other things going on so residential care as not only benefited us in a way but her massively. and it is an issue which we discovered after talking to katie which affects so many families. john got in touch as a carer, for his disabled daughter and his wife, he says he has not had a break in ten yea rs says he has not had a break in ten years and i'm still getting almost no support. catherine says, it is a decision that every special educational needs and disability has a parent as to make at some point,
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who will care for the child when we can't? it is agonising putting trust in the hands of others and the options are so limited. helen says, i have an autistic son in residential care full—time, it is 30 and comes home every weekend. my advice to katie is to definitely do it because our worry is that if something happened to us, who would look after him? it would be such a big change and a shock for him if we we re big change and a shock for him if we were not around. wendy says, i had residential care for eight years in my life and i absolutely loved it. it got me out of my house, i did fun things and found new hobbies and interests and it gave my dad a break because my condition was tiring. lyndon, hello, you also contacted the programme after seeing the interview, why was that? matthew is 14, it can be very challenging, he has recently gone to a new school, his third school. it is is that
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special school, sorry. because he was excluded, they could no longer meet his needs. he can be fairly challenging. he started respite, doing some respite six years ago at the respite centre. we may have one oi’ the respite centre. we may have one or two days a week and every other weekend but the problems we were getting, they can be quite busy places, a lot of other children and carers. it doesn't always work for all children. we turn up and there would be agency staff there that he didn't know. it made him anxious. so, we stopped that about two years ago and now we organise our own, i wouldn't call it respite, it is at rest, we organise our own pas for matthew and we take on the funding we would have got from a respite
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centre and we use it for matthew to go out and enjoy himself and do activities with his own personal carers and they may have him for a sleepover at night. it is basically using the funding in a different way, organising it. it takes quite a lot of work to organise everything. he enjoys festivals, music, church. sorry to interrupt, but have you considered residential care? as you have explained, respite is for shorter periods of time and regularly but residential would be more long—term. regularly but residential would be more long-term. i think it may come to it. as parents, we like him at home. the thought of him going to residential is frightening. you know, we found it hard enough when he went to respite. it is almost like a grieving process because you
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miss them and you worry about them. i wonder if i could bring in ros and abi on that because you have taken this decision. lyndon has said he is frightened about the prospect so what would you say to him? frightened about the prospect so what would you say to him7m frightened about the prospect so what would you say to him? it is frightening, it is natural to be frightened but our family benefited from it as well as stacy. and i certainly don't regret it now.|j think finding the consistency with the carers, stacy has a handful of carers that all take turns during their shifts for her. some of them, she probably prefers more than us in some respects! she is nonverbal and does not talk at all, but you can read her queues and you see her around the carers and spending time with them and it is nice to see she has a bond with someone that she relies on and trust as well as us,
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if that makes sense. it is camping ta ke if that makes sense. it is camping take —— comforting to know that she has people who are consistent with her we has people who are consistent with herwe do has people who are consistent with her we do have that option in the new school, they do it residential as well so maybe, he has only been there a couple of weeks, but may be in the future if it does get too challenging we might have to decide to do that. and i know that in our interview, katie mentioned harvey had smashed eight ipads and various windows and televisions, what was your reaction when you heard that? matthew is very similar in a lot of ways. we have had probably five smashed tvs, i have lost count of the ipads. i can relate to her, absolutely. i take my hat off to her really for what she has done so far. harvey is a big lad, it is going to be challenging. but there are other options rather than residential, there are options of employing your
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owi'i there are options of employing your own pas. there are different ways of doing it, it does not always have to be residential. what is apa, lyndon? personal assistance. they would take harvey out and do the activities he enjoys, it may be a sleepover. that is how we get our rest rather than residential. let me bring in debbie, ifi residential. let me bring in debbie, if i may. your son matthew now goes toa if i may. your son matthew now goes to a residential school but he was in mainstream, getting to the end of primary and he started to get anxious about it and it was causing you problems. what was it like trying to get him to school? he was diagnosed with asperger‘s when he was four and he did attend a primary school and was doing quite well but as he got older, the difference between him and his peers grew apart. he had severe anxiety about going to school also it was the class sizes, the noise, the
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unpredictability and very much in a mainstream school, the child has to fit into the school system whereas ina fit into the school system whereas in a specialist setting it is the other way round. the education is catered for the needs of the child. he was basically refusing to go to school in the mornings and that impacted on his brother, who went to the same primary school, we physically could not get them in the car. you had to do two runs? my husband had to change his work hours so husband had to change his work hours so he could take our other son in. it also affected activities after school, if one son wanted to go to the park afterwards with his friend but matthew did not want to go, we had to go home. like the other family, it does impact the siblings quite a lot. in terms of eight residential school, which is what he 110w residential school, which is what he now goes to, what is that like?m is absolutely fantastic. the minute matthew saw the school, he said, i wa nt to matthew saw the school, he said, i want to come here. it is in the countryside near banbury will suck
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there are only about 60 boys, some of them are boilers and some are day boys —— it is near banbury. some are boarders. it was a lengthy court battle to get the funding to get him a place but we got there in the end because it was the only suitable school for matthew. he is academically able and a lot of the special schools are for children with more profound disabilities. understood. katie and harvey got so much support when they came on on wednesday and i think she was actually overwhelmed by it. there we re actually overwhelmed by it. there were some unpleasant comments. she says she gets used to that but it is really pretty horrible also sought some of them. that was the main reason, seeing the story previously and thinking, i'm not going to get into this and then i exhort the clip oi'i into this and then i exhort the clip on facebook and i couldn't hold it. people are saying things that if she
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did not go on so many photo shoots she would have more time and she is rich so why can't she employ a carer? it doesn't matter about your life style carer? it doesn't matter about your lifestyle and how much money you have, it is what fits you and if she decided she wanted to keep i'll be at home and be with him round the clock, it is her decision. the same as if people want to take a different choice, everybody is individual and it fits each individual and it fits each individual case. what did you think? if you are not in those shoes, you cannot comment. i find it awful that people think they have the right to make those sorts of comments. people like us, in that situation, yes, we can say things like that but people who are not in her shoes... some of the comments, i don't know if you have experienced this, but there is a suggestion that you don't care for your child enough if you choose the residential route. i have actually come across that. a close friend of
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mine, when stacy was young, actually phoned me up because my initial reaction, i'm ashamed to say now, was, stacy also had a heart problem and she was admitted to a specialist hospital, and that was where the news was imparted about how disabled she was. i left her in the hospital andl she was. i left her in the hospital and i went home without her and that was it, i wasn't going to pick her up. obviously i did, it only lasted a couple of days. but while i was at home and stacy was still in hospital, a close friend phoned and said, why are you doing that, don't you want to look after your own child? i did not speak to her for a numberof child? i did not speak to her for a number of years. you don't know what it is like for people. until you do, you cannot cast comments. have you come across this? yes, my son, his quality of life has improved tremendously. when he was at home, he had no social life, he did not wa nt to he had no social life, he did not want to go out anywhere, he was too
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anxious and had mental health problems and he was not attending school. since being at the residential school he has absolutely thrived. he has done duke of edinburgh award, learn life—saving, he has been on trips to brussels and edinburgh, he has made friends. and most importantly, the care he gets at school is a holistic education. in addition to his academic studies, he gets support in social and communication skills. he gets access to psychotherapy, psychology and speech and language support. that is an incredible range of services, it is astonishing. it is, and it is on demand. before, we had to apply each time he wanted to support whereas here, it is available for him as and when he needs it. lyndon, what do you think about some of the judgmental comments to the parents of children with disabilities? we get it all the time. in what way? we
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have had it from family. what kind of comments? some family saying he should be in residential care all the time so we can have a life. you don't have a life. but our life is out 5011. don't have a life. but our life is our son. and we have to manage. that is one set of parents, another set would turn around and say we don't ca re would turn around and say we don't care about him when we put him into respite. we get this from family, judging you. it is hard enough without familyjudging you and friends. i can appreciate what everybody is saying stop that is what it is like, until you been there and done it... i had to give up my there and done it... i had to give up my business six years ago. it is not something i wanted to do but it was either that or matthew went into
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a residential care full—time. in devon and cornwall there are not many places to choose from so he would probably be hundreds of miles away. interesting that people get potentially criticised for making the decision to place a child with disability in residential care and criticised for choosing not to. let me read some more messages from people. tracey says, i think katie price has been a brilliant mum to all her kids, hardly especially but the overall safety of the family has to be considered. sometimes we can only do so much as carers. this e—mail says, i only do so much as carers. this e—mailsays, iam only do so much as carers. this e—mail says, i am a carerfor my differently able to son. it is very lonely world for parent carers especially when you don't have family who lived locally. i also have a chronic illness myself but looking after me does not appear in my list of things as his caring ta kes my list of things as his caring takes priority. i have asked for help in the past but with budget cuts everywhere there is no real help available. every step of the way is a battle to get him his rights. it is definitely not helping
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my health and my biggest worry is what will happen to him after us, his parents. he is our only child and this woe is so deep—rooted that it affects every aspect of our lives. this one says, i was watching katie price on your show, harvey is a big datum of big strong lad, i understand where she is coming from regarding putting him into care. i had to make that decision ten years ago with my son who was 18 at the time and getting violent. there would be a time when he may have pushed me down the stairs. at the timei pushed me down the stairs. at the time i was a single mum and i could not cope. my son also has severe learning disabilities, autism and other disabilities and needs one to one care. although it was a hard decision it was a good one and he does a lot of things i could never have done with him. i have my life back, i see him every week and i have him home. that is then quality time but i will never stop feeling guilty and of course i will always love him. very thank
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guilty and of course i will always love him. very- thank you, love him. very moving. thank you, all of you, for coming on. we really appreciate it. we wish you a lot of love and all the best. if you've been affected by the issues we've been discussing this morning and would like details of organisations which offer advice and support you can go to bbc.co.uk/actionline or you can call for free, at any time to hear recorded information on 0800 066 066. still to come... an ee customer has told this programme exclusively she was stalked by an ex—partner who worked at the firm, after he accessed her personal data without permission. and the cat with eight lives left — how fluffy was found and encrusted with snow and then brought back to full health by vets with hairdryers and heated towels in montana, usa. dorset police say the body recovered
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from the wreckage of a crashed plane on the bottom of the sea near guernsey is that of cardiff city player emiliano sala. search teams have been unable to find the body of the pilot in the wreckage of the light aircraft. our correspondent chi chi izundu is here. tell us about what the police have said. they have confirmed that u nfortu nately said. they have confirmed that unfortunately the body found in the wreckage if that —— is that of emiliano sala. they had removed the body from the wreckage and take it to the coroner's office. his family haveissued to the coroner's office. his family have issued a statement saying, " it is with infinite sadness that they can confirm the identity of his body and they say they would like to thank the fans for the science of affection and support in what is the
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most painful time of their lives. seeing the whole world mobilised to support us in our research has been a great help and thanks to you we are able to now mourn our son and brother. they also said on friday morning our thoughts go to david ibbotson, who was the pilot, alongside emiliano, and his family, hoping that the authorities will do their best to find him. because they have not yet found his body as yet. do we have any clearer idea of why the plane went down? unfortunately not and unfortunately, the air accidents investigation branch have had to abandon the search at this point in time because of weather conditions. they say that the weather in the area of the english channel is so bad right now that for the foreseeable future they will have to wait until things are better and calmer and clearer and then they can possibly continue the search but they have not confirmed that. thank you very much. an ee customer has told this programme exclusively she was stalked by an ex—partner who worked at the firm,
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after he accessed her personal data without permission. the mobile phone giant say it's "horrified". francesca bonafede has told us she had to call the police after her address and personal data were accessed without permission and her phone number was switched over to a new handset. i reporter has this exclusive story. fill us in. this goes back to last february, almost a year ago stop this woman, francesco bonafede wakes up this woman, francesco bonafede wakes up and goes to use her phone and it does not work. no signal whatsoever, no texts or calls so she speaks to her provider, ee, who says there is some sort of technical problem. she will take up the story. i was at work. got the phone out of my purse. there was no network whatsoever. and the only thing i was able to do was connect to wi—fi. i contacted ee to try
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and figure out what was wrong. but none of the agents i spoke to were able to identify what the problem was. i also asked, how long is this going to take? they said, it could be a day, it could be a month, we're not quite sure. it took five more days of calls before the company got to the bottom of this and they said it appeared someone had visited a store in london, ordered a new sin card and switched your account to a com pletely switched your account to a completely new handset. she was com pletely completely new handset. she was completely unused, said it was nothing to do with her. so she goes back on the phone to ee. in one of these calls someone mentions the address, the physical address that the account has apparently been
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switched to and she recognised it straightaway as her ex—boyfriend's address, they had split up some yea rs before address, they had split up some years before and she remembered he worked for ee in one of their high street stores. she doesn't know to this day why he was trying to do all this, she suspects he was trying to apply for some official documentation and wanted to get hold of some phone bills to do that, she doesn't note to the state. ez they would investigate, in the meantime ex—partner started to contact her through phone and text, he turned up at her house with friends repeatedly trying to convince persuade her to drop the complaint. the person started stalking me. he knew my address, obviously, from the breach. so, he came to my address mutliple times, with friends, trying to intimidate me, asking me to withdraw my complaint. endless phone calls from different numbers, text messages. so much so, that i ended up in the police station because i was rather frightened. he would turn up always at night. so, on my way back from work,
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i would find him there. it was rather stressful. and i had to go to the police and tell them what was happening. they asked me repeatedly what is ee doing about this? i said, actually, i don't have a clue because they don't keep me updated. her ex—partner was then arrested and police and given a harassment warning. she says even at that stage ee did not seem to be able to tell her what was going on, what information had been accessed, what they were doing to protect information in the future, whether she could have confidence. she said they only really started she is taking it publicly last summer. some once later. and someone slightly more senior in the complaints department sought that tweed and got in touch with her. she actually said, i'm horrified by what i'm reading, and i'm really sorry about the way you were treated. because, by then, i had spent countless hours
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on the phone, countless hours at the police station. i'd missed days of work. and the stress of being stalked. the worst situation was terrible. and the way i was treated by ee was appalling because they were only investigating on their side with no communication to me whatsoever. what have ee said? wiebe seem e—mails from the company to francesca and they have said they apologise, they say they're into rural policies were not followed, in a statement they said this matter has now been dealt with internally and the employee involved no longer works for us. while we did work quickly to protect francesca we apologise for not keeping her informed of our actions and this time. it's worth pointing out it is and can be a criminal offence under data protection law to access information without authorisation and also the companies involved have and also the companies involved have
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a compulsion, and obligation to protect private data from being accessed. thank you. blackpool is becoming known for its grime music. move over stromzy and dizzee rascal, two of the seaside town's new stars are teenagers sophie aspin and joshua tate. swearing, bad language and violent lyrics used to characterise their music. but both say they ve grown up a bit now, and they're gearing up for fame this year. # these guys are runnin', runnin'. # mans from blackpool were comin', comin'. # see them guys, and they're dockin' dockn'. yeah, man. my name's josh tate, i'm from blackpool. you might know me a little t. i'm a grime artist. # look like, look like. # you need to get me in the beef. # you can go on youtube for the beef. i put my new video out that's sendin'. come on, man, nearly a million in two weeks. they're gangin' me. that's gangin'. i don't know any kid,
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i don't know any kid who's my age who's hitting the views that i'm hitting, do you know what i mean? hi, i'm sophie aspin, i'm 16 years old. you might know me as the queen of blackpool, and i do grime. # soj, babe, sort yourface. # sort your brows, you big disgrace. # sort your brain, aspin's insane. # but you're positively givin' me a bad migraine. # so you're not game, stop rantin'. # can't you see you're already slackin'. being the first girl on bg media, it's kind of hard because, normally, girls i've known, like, when i've seen girls, it's always singing.
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i've never seen a girl being aggressive on a microphone and to a camera, i've never seen a girl being aggressive. # look, don't get clever. # take your head off that mayweather. # backwards kid, conor mcgregor. # no, that, yes, it's me. # it's little t. every other kid thinks that i'm different, because i'm little t, i'm different. i'm not different, i'm like everybody else. i grew up on a council estate. but i grew up in a place where people get robbed to earn money, people have to sell drugs to earn money. i'm not in a mainstream school. i'm not in where... i go to a school where if people come there, they getjacked up, people get hurt for nothing, just for looking at someone in that school. # sophie, yeah, you're really not ha rd. so, the beef with little t all started because ofjealousy, right. basically, it's justjealousy. # sophie, we know who you are. # you're that girl who copies my bars. # you're that girl who bleep. # look at your makeup, look at your clothes. # by the way, you got a big nose. she was always tell me,
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trying to say stuff about me to other people. so i just thought, mate, you're bleep. # my bars are fly. # you're getting bored all the time, your bars that don't rhyme. # you're bleep. people thought i was taking his spotlight. so, obviously, he sent for me. at first, i wasn't going to send back. i was like, not a chance. and then, everyone was, itjust went massive and i was like, whoa, this could actually be a chance of actually getting somewhere. # why is this girl keep sending for me? i got addicted to sending. keep sending for me? not addicted, but... keep sending for me? every single person who was on bg net, i just thought, i'm going to send these all to show you that i'm a kid but i can still do it, and i did it. i sent for every single one of them on it. none of them sent back to me because they were all shocked, they were all because i'm a 15—year—old kid. # who'll get scared? # this kids got no opportunities. i kind of made an idiot of myself on youtube, i made a big idiot of myself
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in front of everyone, because i was just swearing, saying things that i didn't even know the real meaning of. and i was saying it on camera in front of millions of people. at the time, it was really exciting. but now i'm older and i've grown up, i look at it as so immature and so childish. grime music. i'm thought, hey, but... it's good publicity, i'm not bothered. they're getting new views. it is horrible, but i think, because i went to school before that and i was bullied before that, and the bullying was quite hard for me.
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and i think because i kind of got over that, i kind of grew and i built this block to any negative emotion. how much are these? a quid? i have grown up, do you know what i mean? if you saw me five months ago, you'd be like, oh, my god, how have you changed in five months. i swear, i was this little kid. i'm still small. i had a perm. i'm more mature in my lyrics now. more talking about girls and stuff like that. but now i'm talking about how it is in my situation as a 15—year—old kid in blackpool. i hate saying that i'm the biggest, i don't know why. when i say i really like, i'm this, i was so like the i'm too full of myself, too full of myself.
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yeah, i know i am, mate. i'm the most popular kid in blackpool. i know i am better than all of them. so, you are the biggest in the best, you ask a bloke and they are, absolutely, i am the biggest and best. but anyway, absolutely, i am the biggest and best. butanyway, good absolutely, i am the biggest and best. but anyway, good luck to joshua and so on. thank you for your comments on decision she had taken about your kids in various conditions they have come you have taken the decision to place them in residential care. bernie says my son, severely autistic in 2016 went into temporary private care aged 19. this was not right choice, this was because the staff in the hospital he was in for because the staff in the hospital he was infora because the staff in the hospital he was in for a weekend could not cope with him. there are no carers here to help me in our town and i am
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still waiting on him to compound. they have not suggested he even gets a weekend home. the thought of residential is scaring, one of your guests said, we live in a remote area and teas with elderly people in area and teas with elderly people in a care home. there's nothing here. this is just extraordinary. a care home. there's nothing here. this isjust extraordinary. it's about time parents were listened to as individuals. this viewer who doesn't not leave their name, we had a novel experience of residential ca re a novel experience of residential care for my artistic son, we arranged for a personal budget for my son and it works so much better for him, i had to give up work to oversee this and marriage ended the cause of the stress of the permanent support my son needed. i think it has worked for arson but i think it's affected my daughter having him at home, she has developed an eating disorder and depression and i think the constant attention to my son who is often balanced and disruptive, has needed has contributed to her bad mental health. in retrospect i wonder if that might have been
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better for the family as a whole him to stay in residential care. thank you so much of those and i appreciate you giving us such personal details about your family lives, effectively. we never underestimate what it takes to be candid about your own life so thank you so much. take a look at his amazing picture. it's from the facebook page of a vets in montana, usa, and shows fluffy the cat who was frozen in the polar vortex. that's the extreme weather system that hit the us mid west last month, and saw temperatures fall to below those seen in the antarctic. but she was thawed out and brought back to full health. we can talk to dr simon doherty from the british veterinary association. but first, cbs correspondent mark liverman is in new york.
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mark, thanks so much for talking to us. tell us about what happened to fluffy the cat? this was a nearly unresponsive cat, found in the snow, she was brought into a clinic by her owners and she was almost entirely covered in snowballs. at first her body temperature did not even register on the clinical thermometers, the staff used towels, cage warmers, intravenous fluids in the cab's recovery and one of the best said the cat started to bounce back after some hours of treatment. on facebook the clinic posted pictures and wrote her temperature was very low and after many hours she recovered and is now completely normal. they went on to say fluffy is amazing. her owners found her in the snow crouched down looking like she was hunting something, they think
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something might have happened to her, something dramatic, like maybe something fell on her or she was chased by something which landed her and led to her being injured and in that position. you mentioned intravenous fluids and cage warmers, but you did not mention a her dryer! did they use the hairdryer?” but you did not mention a her dryer! did they use the hairdryer? i don't know if there was a hairdryer used. but in the picture from the beds there was a her dryer in shock. was there? well there you go. how has there? well there you go. how has the news gone down in the us? before we get into that i want to play a clip from another veterinarian. take a listen. i was really surprised, i've been in practice a long time and i've seen a lot of hypodermic animals but normally it accidental, picked leaves the door open, the carter dog gets out and no one knows about it and they might get a little cold but this was a different
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situation, how it had packed around. there is definitely been some big reaction, especially on social media. the clinics facebook post about fluffy has more than 2500 sharers and 3000 likes already, all that was the reaction, people praising the clinic for their incredible work, others thanking the clinic for doing everything they could to bring fluffy back to life that you did have others saying, cat should be kept inside, period. other facebook users attacked the owners are letting the cat stay outside in the winter. it's also worth pointing out three—year—old fluffy's owners say the cat has always lived outdoors. mark, thanks so much, we appreciate your time. simon, outdoors. mark, thanks so much, we appreciate yourtime. simon, a hairdryer was used, we've seen it in the pictures. just because i can, i'm switching it on. but people should not try this at home. no, i
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think the key messaging would be do not try this at home and clearly the vets will not have used the hairdryer directly on the cat in the same way that we would use the her dryer when we are trying our own here. it probably would have been used in the situation where maybe the cap was in a kennel and the warm airwas being the cap was in a kennel and the warm air was being circulated. it's really important, in the same way that if you have a cat that is hypodermic in derry hot conditions, it's important to bring the temperature down slowly, in a similar situation for fluffy it's important that temperature is brought up very slowly so that they don't go into shock. obviously we will not have temperatures in this country like the american midwest but cats can get hypothermia in this country. they can and the important pa rt country. they can and the important part of the story was the cat may have sustained some kind of injury. cats in this country will naturally
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be out and about and hunting and tootling around various neighbourhood gardens. but if weather gets furry extreme they will find somewhere to shelter, they are not completely stupid, they will get out a very cold conditions. cats are not adult stupid, never mind not completely! not at all. so, in terms of intravenous fluids, in terms of the cage warmers, that was obviously key, wasn't it? and when these animals get extremely cold there is animals get extremely cold there is an element which is about making sure we get enough energy on board too actually, they are expending a lot of energy trying to keep their own body temperature of. and be get called we will shiver and likewise for these animals, in order to get the body temperature back—up they need ready energy. but let's look at fluffy again, with the snowballs effectively all over him. if you we re effectively all over him. if you were brought the cat on the leopard
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was registering nobody temperature, how hopeful would you be, i mean, you wouldn't. .. you wouldn't necessarily be all bad hopeful at once you've determined the cat is still alive and that the owners want to try and do everything they can, certainly that is the approach we will take. and it can be quite a tricky one for vets. and owners. you insta ntly tricky one for vets. and owners. you i nsta ntly wa nt tricky one for vets. and owners. you insta ntly wa nt to wa nt tricky one for vets. and owners. you instantly want to want them up and get them back to normal but you heard from the video clip, and from the interview, that actually it's really important that storm over at literally hours, bringing the temper trap. there is a part of me thinking this story is a hoax and we have fallen for it. not at all. mark told us some fallen for it. not at all. mark told us some people and cats should be kept inside period. that's not right, is it? able again will make a choice, if a kitten is reared inside from you know, a young stage, then they can adapt to breathe well to
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living inside. ithink they can adapt to breathe well to living inside. i think the important thing is that all of the appropriate welfare needs are met and you know, they have to be able to exhibit normal behaviour and you can argue that a cat can only exhibit normal behaviour outside at a lot of cats do very, very well and have a really good quality of life living in doors. thank you so much. doctor simon offertory from the british veterinary association. there are now half a million more children living in poverty in privately rented homes in england than there were ten years ago. that 5 according to research out today from the national housing federation. it says nearly half of all children in those rented homes live in poverty by that they mean relative to the rest of society, they can't pay for basic things like bills and food. the industry body is blaming high property prices and a shortage of social housing. they say many parents are being forced to live in rentals they can t afford and where they are at the whim of landlords, leaving them without any security. now we can speak to angela tyler
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who was renting privately with her five—year—old son when she became unable to pay the rent and was evicted. and richard lambert, chief executive of the national landlords‘ association. thank you both for coming on the programme and being patient. angela, how did you and your son kardinell come to end up living in a private home, unable to make ends meet? it was down to an overpayment by working tax credit which led to a subsequent season benefits and housing benefit. it was an error. yes, you are right, that is an error completely, we ended up being given notice to said that my rent had been stopped but it was two months arrears are ready, it was just touching christmas time, i established, as soon as i was told
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about the problem i contacted them and directed by debt i did not pay the landlord for another six months. that was owed on account. even though they told me i had an overpayment and i would be liable for the overpayment i was happy to pay it if that was the case. at which point, the landlord... the landlord decided i have had enough. do you blame him? no, not really, who can afford to pay to mortgages, four times rent. we had had a secured tennessee for over five yea rs secured tennessee for over five years and we'd had a really good relationship as well but there had never been an issue with rent and i had worked, i had all these been able to maintain my bills but it was ha rd able to maintain my bills but it was hard because i was robbing peter to pay paul to pay gas and electric but you get on with that because you wa nt you get on with that because you want a secure home for your child. the eviction notice was being pursued by the private landlord, what is it like to live with the threat for example the locks being changed, the bailiffs coming. threat for example the locks being changed, the bailiffs comingm
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threat for example the locks being changed, the bailiffs coming. it is awful. we spent all of the summer holidays in 2015 on tenterhooks with the landlord threatening to change the landlord threatening to change the locks, if i did not get out. the only advice i was given by the local council was to remain in the property until i was removed by bailiffs unless i make myself intentionally homeless and then we would have nowhere to live.“ intentionally homeless and then we would have nowhere to live. if you make yourself intentionally homeless the local authority has no duty of ca re the local authority has no duty of care to help. and other people said go find another private rent, i really, really tried and from my background you would have thought that was easy, i used to run the leading agency, i have contacts but the rent increase so much in five yea rs i the rent increase so much in five years i could not afford to go private again, i would have ended up and evicted or homeless within six months and i could not do that to me and my child. obviously i went down the route of trying to obtain some form of social housing, i did not expect to obtain it, i thought i would end up back in private because even though you are using the
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council system you have to bid against properties that are available and some of them are private. i am going to read this e—mail if! private. i am going to read this e—mail if i may, it's quite long. nicola has e—mailed, we rented a house in 2013, the landlords were fantastic. they drop the rent by 50 quid when we lived there and the rental prices around us were increasing but we were able to live co mforta ble increasing but we were able to live comfortable it. we lived in a house for over three years and we received a letter from the landlord explaining unfortunately they had split up and so we had to move out of the house. we had two months to find a suitable property. i could not believe how much the market rate for a rent in the area was. we had to choose a reasonable house to move into so our kids could stay at their school. the cheapest house was 300 quid more than a house we were previously renting. we had to cut back drastically, we've gone from living constantly to struggling and now we are in debt because of being evicted on the rental prices going up. i've applied for council homes
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but we are not priority because of my partner's wage, i have brothers in council houses and they lived in more comfortable life than me and my partner and we are in more co mforta ble partner and we are in more comfortable life than me and my partner and we earn more than double that what they do. it's incredibly frustrating when rent goes up, we have to cut act on food and bills and there's no chance of saving for and there's no chance of saving for a deposit. i have no idea we will ever be able to open our own home. i know that you at one point angela, you were in the car with your son, just before christmas, crying, totally stressed and what did he said you? he said, it will be all right, mum, as long as we are together. and i said, i know that, you want to be able to give that foundation and security, your child should never be able to think about whether they will have a safe, secure home, he had ready done a year, it was nearing christmas and i could not him through that again. we we re could not him through that again. we were going to go to gloucester and start again on my dads floor. in that year, i could not save a penny,
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i spent more money that year than i had spent in ten years. how many houses have you and your son lived in since he was born? one initially and then we hopped around living on sofas, 13 different houses. really? we try to make it as adventurous and fun as possible but after a couple of months, everyone's routine is different, you go into someone's, do have to adhere to their routine, i have to adhere to their routine, i have great friends and some great contacts have great friends and some great co nta cts in have great friends and some great contacts in bristol and i didn't have any family who could permanently... i could not live on my dads floor. although you have a roof over your head it still stressful. it was stressful and i think of a stressful for them as well. i did 15 months, then saying i will help you out but after a few months, people had babies and changed everything on the change lives and i was sat there, waiting to start my life, we were sitting there waiting for a foundation. so
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how do you react to this news today that in ten years there are now have a million more children living in poverty in private rented accommodation? it's so sad, it's quite disgusting, really. considering we live in the uk. i think housing should be a massive priority, it's a massive, it's a foundation, you build on that and people, you build up who you are for you come from. the government says it isa you come from. the government says it is a priority, providing quality... you are rolling your eyes, providing their social housing isa eyes, providing their social housing is a priority and the social housing paper supports social mobility. household incomes have never been higher and there are million fewer people living in absolute poverty since 2010 including 300,000 children. richard, how do you respond? i think i'm saddened but not surprised. the cost of housing
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is why and it has kept rising over the past 10—15 years. is why and it has kept rising over the past 10-15 years. because of a shortage of housing. had this conversation i don't know how many times. numerous times. benefit levels have not kept up with rent, so levels have not kept up with rent, so from the figures we get back from landlords around the country, benefit levels are 10—15% behind re nt benefit levels are 10—15% behind rent levels depending on where you are. and we have not built enough social housing. the government's green paper is full of fine words but i think someone said, put your money where your mouth is you ain't going nowhere. the government says it's given councils the power to build a new generation of housing to build a new generation of housing to build social homes communities need and even if local authorities do that it will take a number of years. it is, but even then we are really talking about tens of thousands a year, we need hundreds of thousands a year. ok. thank you both, thank
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you for coming on the programme and for your patience. and good luck. thanks for your company today. abc news thanks for your company today. abc n ews re nt thanks for your company today. abc news rent life is next, have an amazing weekend. i will see you next week. —— bbc newsroom live is next. hello, good morning. we may see some travel disruption today because strong winds are in the forecast. some heavy rain following as well. courtesy of storm eric, you can see it quite nicely here on the pressure chart, white lines quite close together. strong winds across most areas, 45—55 miles an hour including areas, 45—55 miles an hour including a inland england. the further north and west you are, the worse it will be. heavy rain spreading, dark blue
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and green on the weather chart. spreading into the south—east. the wind gusts around coastal parts of northern ireland, western scotland, 60-70 northern ireland, western scotland, 60—70 miles an hour this afternoon, temperatures getting up to 10—12d. it will stay quite wet and windy through northern parts, into tomorrow, over the next few days, expect some disruption. goodbye. you re watching bbc newsroom live — it's11am and these are the main stories this morning:
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the family of footballer emiliano sala pay tribute to him , after it was confirmed his the body recovered from the wreckage of a plane in the english channel was his. the high court allows businessman sir philip green to drop his injunction against the daily telegraph imposed in respect to the publication of allegations of sexual harassment, bullying, racism and inappropriate behaviour. the brexit backstop deadlock. the irish prime minister will hold talks with leaders of northern ireland's political parties today, before meeting theresa may later. jeff bezos, owner of amazon and the washington post, says the parent company of the national enquirer tried to blackmail him with "intimate photos". ten people have been killed in a fire at flamengo football club's training ground in rio de janeiro, three others were injured.
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