hello. it's 14th february, it's 10 o'clock, and i'm victoria derbyshire. the british teenager who left britain to join isis now says she wants to come home. speaking from a syrian refugee camp, 19—year—old shamima begum from bethnal green she says she's nine months pregnant and has no regrets about heading for isis territory with her two school friends when she was 15. thousands of children across the uk will be walking out of school tomorrow to demand that politicians take stronger action on climate change. it isa it is a small price to pay you for standing upfor our it is a small price to pay you for standing up for our planet. if you get a detention, that is nothing compared to how we will suffer in the future if nothing is done. a new ten—year plan to tackle the major causes of heart attacks, strokes and dementia is out today.

a lot of it's about early detection of abnormal heart rhythms, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. nurse philippa hobson is here to tell you what you should be doing to look after yourself, and she'll be carrying out some tests on me. she is checking my blood pressure at the moment. it is normal, despite being on live television. thank you. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. this morning, let us know if you think the former schoolgirl from bethnal green shamima begum who left britain to join the islamic state and married an isis fighter in syria, should be allowed back to britain? she's now 19 and says she's nine months pregnant and wants her baby cared for her here as she says her two other children died out there. use the hashtag #victorialive.

send us an email victoria@bbc.co.uk. many of you have been commenting. mark wright, twitter, she's made her bed she can stay where she is. will she bring the baby up to want to bomb us if we allow her to come back? duvetfiend says she doesn t regret it, so she can stay there. its a shame for the baby, but there are millions of babies in the world that don t have the benefit of our welfare state. she can't cherry pick the bits of being british that she likes while committing treason against her country; sameera abdelmohse tweets — go home, but do tell of the atrocities that you witnessed. warn young people against indoctrination and radicalization. girlfrommalta tweets — i think she should face justice like any other fighter. saying heads in bins did not bother her is a very disturbing statement and suggests that she has been brainwashed and needs appropriate help within the penal system. jo kneale, twitter — how about repatriating the innocent baby, and letting

shamima stay in syria? alan benton says let her rot where she is. and graham shoebridge says evil to the core, complacent and still unrepentant. she should stay there. a serious credible risk to national security. here's anita with more on that story and the rest of the morning's news so far. good morning. a london schoolgirl who left britain as a 15—year—old to join so—called islamic state so she wa nts to join so—called islamic state so she wants to come home so her baby can be taken care of. shamima begum fled tojoin the terror be taken care of. shamima begum fled to join the terror group with three other friends from bethnal green to join the terror group with three otherfriends from bethnal green in 2015. speaking to the times from a syrian refugee camp, she said she had no regrets but wants to give birth in the uk. the home office says anyone who returns to the uk after travelling to is territory faces criminal investigation. we will get reaction from a former met police chief and a former banker who left hisjob to

police chief and a former banker who left his job to fight against isis in syria. theresa may is facing the threat of another rebellion by her own backbenchers today as she tries to preserve support for her brexit plan. the commons is due to vote on the next steps in the process and some of the most hardline tory brexiteers have said they cannot back the motion as it currently stands, claiming it effectively means abandoning a no deal option. the plane—maker airbus, which has factories in the uk, has announced plans to cease production of the super jumbo the a380 plans to cease production of the superjumbo the a380 from 2021. the company says up to 3500 jobs could be impacted over the next three yea rs. a380 parts be impacted over the next three years. a380 parts were made in factories in filton and north wales. emirates was the largest customer of a380 but has reduced its order, opting for smaller airbus models. the chief executive explained the move was in part due to changing patterns in aviation. i think what we are seeing here is the end of the

large four engine aircraft, and that is what it is. there has been speculation for years that we were ten yea rs speculation for years that we were ten years too early with the a380, but it becomes clear we were about ten yea rs but it becomes clear we were about ten years too late. nhs england is encouraging people to have their blood pressure and cholesterol levels checked in a bid to cut the number of heart attacks, strokes and dementia cases. health experts warn millions of people are unaware that they are at risk because many of the conditions associated with cardiovascular disease carry no symptoms. 5 million people are estimated to have undiagnosed high blood pressure in england. more than half of england's universities safe fewer than 5% of disadvantaged white stu d e nts fewer than 5% of disadvantaged white students on their books according to new analysis from the national education opportunities network which concluded that too few universities have clear targets to recruit white working—class students. the results show there

we re students. the results show there were 3% at the university of oxford compared to 28% at teesside. the proportion of patients treated or assessed in a&e in hospitals in four hours in england injanuary was the lowest since modern records began. 84.4% of patients were seen within the four hour benchmark, down from 85.3% in january last year. the four hour benchmark, down from 85.3% injanuary last year. nasa says the opportunity rover it sent to mars has ended its mission eight months after losing contact. the robot spent 15 years sending data back to earth and had one of the most fruitful missions in the history of space exploration. p, as it was known affectionately, confirmed that water once flowed on the red planet in the robot has not been heard of sincejune when it was hit by a dust storm. that's a summary hit by a dust storm. that's a summary of the news this morning. back to you, victoria. in 2015, the three british schoolgirls — two were 15, one was 16 — from bethnal green in east london

left the uk to join the brutal regime of so—called islamic state in syria. it shocked the country. now one of them, 19—year—old shamima begum, is pleading to come home. speaking from a syrian refugee camp, she says she's nine months pregnant and has no regrets about heading for isis territory with her two friends four years ago. she went there with 16—year—old kadiza sultana, seen here on the left, and 15—year—old amira abase, seen here on the right, after telling their parents they were going out for the day. they were caught on cctv travelling to turkey before crossing the syrian border. it's believed one of the teenagers, kadiza sultana, was killed in a russian air strike in 2016. when they first travelled to syria, shamima begum's sister renu begum asked her to come home in an emotional appeal. this is my little sister's pyjamas.

she did not take anything with her. we are kind ofjust clinging on to the bits we have and we just want her to come home. if you watch this, baby, please come home. mum wants you more than anything in the world. you are my baby and we just want you home and say. just contact anybody, let them know that you need help. you have all the help in the world, you are not in trouble, we all love you, and if anybody has convinced you, and if anybody has convinced you of anything, they are wrong. we love you more than anybody could ever love you and that's about it. we arejust ever love you and that's about it. we are just holding onto the hope that she has not gone to do anything stupid, that she has gone to get her friend, because it's in her kind nature to do something like that, bring back a friend, and that's what we are hoping she has gone to do, bring back a friend. that was four yea rs bring back a friend. that was four years ago. now, shamima begum has been tracked down by a times journalist. she told anthony loyd that she was taken to a house in raqqa when she got to syria,

with other newly arrived jihadi brides—to—be. she said she'd seen many atrocities including heads that had been severed from bodies, but it hadn't bothered her at all. have a listen to this. shamima begum says she is now nine months pregnant, after losing two children in the last year while living in syria. one to malnutrition, one to illness. now she says, she wants to come back to britian which she calls home. shamima begum was also asked whether she believed islamic state's days of ruling vast swathes of territory across syria and iraq were over. and whether she had any regrets about travelling to join the terrorist group. she seemed to show no remorse. speaking this morning, the security minister ben wallace gave this message to those who want to return home from syria. if you have been out there against the advice of the foreign office to go

and engaged in support of activities of terrorism, you should be prepared to be — if you come back — questioned, investigated and potentially prosecuted for committing terrorist offences. joining me in the studio is dal babu, former metropolitan police chief superintendent, he was brought in by shamima begum's family four years ago, that was to support them and try and help. also with us, macer gifford — that's not his real name — who left his career as a banker to fight isis in syria, and nikita malik, director of the centre on radicalisation and terror at the henry jackson society — a group which promotes liberal ideas. dal babu, you have heard from the family after the news that shamima begum is alive

and wants to return to the uk. what do they say? it is on public record that the family want her back. you played a clip of her sister who made a heartfelt plea for her to come back and i think the three girls, we are talking about 15—year—old children, who were groomed. they we re children, who were groomed. they were on the internet, radicalised, and the families had no idea whatsoever about what was going on. the family assumed they were going toa wedding, the family assumed they were going to a wedding, getting ready for a wedding and they disappeared. so we really need to understand that we have 15—year—old children, i appreciate she is now 19, but these we re appreciate she is now 19, but these were individuals who were groomed and we see this happening on the internet all the time, u nfortu nately. internet all the time, unfortunately. you look at the issues around rotherham and rochdale, thames valley, where young women have been abused. they think they are in relationships. and you think this is on a par?|j they are in relationships. and you think this is on a par? i think this is an individual, and isis is a

brutal regime, absolutely brutal. nobody in their right mind would think it is an appropriate organisation, if you look at what they do. but is the family appealing for understanding? to understand what you have just described, that their daughter, sister, has been groomed and should be allowed to return to britain? shamima begum was born in this country, and she had a normal life until she was groomed. what we need to be doing is looking at what the authorities did in terms of what information they had and famously, or infamously, a letter was written by the prevent team and they were aware that the girls were being groomed and the team gave a letter to the girls themselves, despite them knowing that these girls were being groomed on the internet, to give to their parents. not surprisingly, the girls did not give the letter about their concerns and it was found in the schoolbag of the girls after they had gone. macer, you went out there to fight

isis, just remind people how vile isis, just remind people how vile isis have been? one thing i've been shocked at is how little remorse these ladies have got, this lady in particular. the islamic state cut a terrible swathe of violence through the middle east and have killed thousands of people, young boys and young men in ditches, they have people in cages, they have their own 95v people in cages, they have their own gay men of buildings. this is a terrorist organisation. this lady we nt terrorist organisation. this lady went out around the same time i went out and i was motivated by what i had seen online and we cannot absolve this by saying by saying she has been grew. how old were you when you went out quench about —— when you went out quench about —— when you went out quench about —— when you went out? i was 27 but when i was 15, i knew that murder, rape, kidnapping, was wrong, but she chose to go out there and there is no indication that she has any remorse,

that she is any less dangerous as a potential terrorist. lord knows what she has been taught out there. she is still a threat to people in the uk andl is still a threat to people in the uk and i hope people recognise that and she gets the appropriate punishments. should she be allowed home? i think that's a really tough question. in my opinion, i would argue that she shouldn't because there are appropriate processes to try an individual in iraq and syria. has she committed any offence?” think she has by knowinglyjoining a terrorist organisation. even when you are 15? even if you are 15. this needs to be situated in the fact that these girls did an enormous amount of research before they went out. we have done reports on this, where girls are actively seeking out the information. saying it isjust down to grooming is reducing the free will of these individuals. these girls downloaded propaganda,

they sort out relationships with people online and it is very difficult —— different from an iraqi or syrian girl who might have been abducted into islamic state through i'io abducted into islamic state through no choice of their own. this is somebody who chose to get on a plane and do it. would you say the girls who were groomed at rochdale by men? would you say the girls groomed in rochdale did it on their own free will? no, this is not the same. this is nowhere near the same. so those 15—year—old girls in rochdale who thought they were in relationships with men double their age, would you say it was free will? with respect, i think it's completely inaccurate to put those two situations together. here you have a girl who has actively downloaded information, boarded a flight, gone and joined a terrorist organisation and she probably had a slave, she probably had a slave abducted by the islamic state and saw horrible things being done to women and saw beheadings and

saw a head in the bin. done to women and saw beheadings and sawa head in the bin. i done to women and saw beheadings and saw a head in the bin. i don't think this is nearly the same as a situation where a man is sexually exploiting a young girl. and i think conflating the two is extremely problematic. and just because she is a girl ora woman problematic. and just because she is a girl or a woman does not make her any less responsible. a 15-year-old girl who thinks it's appropriate to get married to a 27—year—old man, thatis get married to a 27—year—old man, that is problematic, and i think it illustrates that these individuals we re illustrates that these individuals were groomed. if you listen to her now,... were groomed. if you listen to her now, . .. she were groomed. if you listen to her now,... she does not do herself any favours. she expresses no remorse or regrets and justifies the killing of journalists and says they might have been spies. she says she was weak for leaving the battlefield in eastern syria and so on. but her own husband was held and tortured himself. what is your point? this is a bizarre way of thinking, that is

my point. i think the reality of the situation is that, unfortunately, the internet grooms and manipulates individuals, and 15—year—old children are victims of the manipulation that goes on in the internet. what we need to understand is how these individuals get manipulated. children, we need to understand how vulnerable children are. so you view her as a victim still? even though the security minister, ben wallace, said this morning that people who went out there as amateurs are now professionals, either as fighters or professionals, either as fighters or professional supporters. well, we have a legal process and it's important we go through it. if somebody comes here with a child, there will be concerns about how the child is brought up. i think she is unaware of what potentially might happen and there will be a conference of social workers and police, and there is no guarantee that the child she talks about will remain with her. these are complex

issues and we have to abide by international law. most people contacting the programme and have been contacting us or morning are not synthetic at all. paul said this. shamima begum needs to publicly repent and renounce her isp leaves. then accept she has broken the law —— is beliefs. francis said she could not return to the uk and we do not want traitors returning. neither she or the child i wanted here. this text says the is teenager should not be coming back here u nless should not be coming back here unless she is treated as a traitor. she made her bed, and who knows what she has done. at best she is an accomplice and is trying to use her unborn child as a weapon. why should the british taxpayer foot the bill? there are many more like this. she may want to come back, but in terms of whether it is practically or physically possible, she is in a syrian refugee camp and there are no

british consular officials or authorities, so what is the process by which she might be able to get back? they do have a judicial process where they process their own fighters, but the message is quite clear that they want the european nations, where thousands of young men and women came out to destroy syria and butcher people, they want people to take responsible itty for their series people to take responsible itty for theirseries —— people to take responsible itty for their series —— citizens and take them back. there are two options, them back. there are two options, the british government stiffen legislation to make sure ladies like this are properly dealt with, or if we can't do that, and there is a fear we cannot successfully prosecute them, we need to provide local people in syria with the resources to do the job for us. which they are more than capable of doing. remind our audience, when you came back, where you question?” doing. remind our audience, when you came back, where you question? i was indeed. i was a legal grey area because i went out to fight islamic state and i joined because i went out to fight islamic state and ijoined the sdf, supported by the british and

americans and i had been in cooperation with anti—terror officials in the uk and i've told them everything i've done. let me put this to you, and it's an argument by a minority group of not many people, a minority, who are saying that the unborn child is an innocent. shamima begum is a british citizen. do we have a duty of care to that child? that i agree with. the child has committed no crime, and to clarify, i do believe that by joining islamic state, her citizenship has been stripped because she hasjoined a terrorist organisation. i may be wrong about that, and i'm not a lawyer, but we have seen this with cases in the past, a child can be given british citizenship because of the dna testing of the mother and if we do bring the child to the uk, they would require probably to be put into care, they would require close monitoring for their development and

it's almost certain that they should not be kept with her because she knowingly took a child to a conflict zone where they would be exposed to extreme danger and that is why she has lost two children already. if you had a duty of responsibility to her children, she would have stayed in the uk where they would be safe but instead she chose to go to a war zone and have children there the islamic state. what will the police and security services be doing now in terms of assessing how much of a risk, if any at all, she is to people in britain? they will follow the law which will require anybody coming back to be interviewed and they will be assessed and then they will make a decision, especially when there is a child involved, whether it is appropriate for a mother—to—be with the child, so there will be a huge amount of resources put into that. that is another issue in terms of the police having such a dramatic cut in resources , having such a dramatic cut in resources, this will require a lot of men and women to ensure that when an individual comes back it is

appropriately dealt with, but also the wider community feel safe. an e—mail says that the bigger shame in this is that she has been brought up on the incorrect islamic belief which has made her radical and this is what needs to be corrected first. one text says, nobody should come back to britain who supported isis. i lost my son to them in 2016. she is evil. bill sent an e—mail saying, the baby, yes, but not the mother stop mother is dangerous and unrepentant. ian says this. shamima begum should be offered the opportunity to return to the uk where she should immediately be taken into where she should immediately be ta ken into custody, where she should immediately be taken into custody, only on condition she provides the security services with sufficient information to their satisfaction regarding her fellow traitors and the infrastructure of isis to assist in the group's ultimate destruction. could she be of use? in the future? i think she would be in the sense of the intelligence. there has been a case of a woman coming back from

islamic state, who came back with a child, and there was another case and i'm releasing research on this next wednesday, of a family who had a child in syria and were brought back. they have to engage with the government's assistance and disengagement process which is created for returnees. if they do that to a sufficient extent, and i don't know if they are allowed to be reunited with their children, but i think they are allowed to have some time with them, and i think that is why a lot of these women have cooperated with the programme. the extent to which de—radicalisation is possible when somebody is not disillusioned with the islamic state, and she has spoken to anthony and said... he is the times journalist. the times journalist, he said she did not seem disillusioned. she could potentially still be dangerous, so the intelligence sharing or what she is able to provide to either the british authorities or syrian and iraqi authorities or syrian and iraqi authorities will be instrumental in

assisting us in understanding what role she played in the organisation. i want to read this final e—mail for the moment. maria on e—mail. i am a muslim, a practising muslim and i follow a peaceful and simple life andi follow a peaceful and simple life and i am 23 and i think no matter how charitable the uk may be there isa how charitable the uk may be there is a line that must be drawn on that line is terrorism. clearly she has no regrets and sees the so—called caliphate as shrinking and it is sad to see a child, having been groomed, and having lost two children herself. however, she still does not sound like she thinks terrorism is wrong, shejust think sound like she thinks terrorism is wrong, she just think isis sound like she thinks terrorism is wrong, shejust think isis is growing weak and she is getting what she probably hoped for and she should not be allowed back. i'm sorry, i feel truly bad for her, but one day i will have children in this country and if her raised a child goes around spreading a new terrorist organisation, then i fear for my children in the future. as a muslim, i don't blame anyone about

thinking twice when it is the fault of terrorism and this girl should be punished by not being allowed home. thanks to all of you and thanks for coming on the programme. will you deliver those kind of messages back to the family? i think the family are very, very keen to make sure that their loved one is kept safe andi that their loved one is kept safe and i think wejust that their loved one is kept safe and i think we just need to that their loved one is kept safe and i think wejust need to remember that this was a child who was groomed, and we seem to have a much greater sympathy with the young girls who were victims of sexual abuse, and when you talk to those individuals, they think they are in relationships. i'm afraid what we are seeing is a woman who has been radicalised, who was a victim of that kind of brainwashing and i think wejust need that kind of brainwashing and i think we just need to understand that these people were children when they went there and there is a very, very strong message if i can end on this, that we need to make sure that the internet is regulated so these organisations that prey on our children and the week and groom our

children, whether it is radicalisation, sexual abuse or gambling, are dealt with more efficiently. thank you for coming on the programme. we appreciate your time. tomorrow, thousands of children across the uk are going to walk out of school for two hours because they want to persuade politicians to bring in tougher measures to deal with global warming. the "schools 4 climate action" movement started after a 15—year—old called greta thunberg started a solo protest outside her parliament buildings in sweden. some have accused her of being publicity—seeking, and promoting the idea of kids missing school. our reporterjames waterhouse has been to meet some of the teenagers taking action against climate change who will skip school again tomorrow to protest. our world shouldn't have to have conservation because our planet should be being respected and preserved. this is our future we are talking about. we can all do something because small things really do add up. for more than a century,

our planet has been getting warmer. the row over what to do about it has not exactly been cooling off. scientists say we are in the middle of the warmest decade since records started. they warn if countries keep going the way they are, the results will be catastrophic. thousands of students around the world shouldn't be having to strike from school to make our voices heard. now, more than ever, those most likely to be affected are taking a stand. i don't want you to be hopeful, i want you to panic. i want you to feel the fear i feel every day. we are meeting two of them, both british schoolgirls. we also decided to produce as little carbon as possible on ourjourney to meet them, which wasn't as easy as we thought. this is rosie mills, she lives in lancaster.

alongside studying for her a—levels, she's just convinced her local authority to declare a climate emergency. i'm worried about many things, especially in my local area because lancaster is a coastal area. three years ago we had an awful storm, storm desmond, which absolutely devastated the area. there was mass flooding all around and it was repeated again two years later in 2017, which flooded the local village of galgate, and it's just been awful. today, i'm presenting this petition on behalf of over 1,500 young people of lancaster, who signed and supported it... declaring a climate emergency means the city will now look at ways to eventually produce no carbon at all, in lancaster's case by 2050. nothing more concrete has been announced yet, but rosie's campaigning means a panel of young people will be part of the decision—making process.

however, not all of rosie's classmates are as passionate as her. do you think about climate change at all? not really, no. it's not really something i'm particularly interested in. i used to do geography at gcse so i did study it there but beyond that i didn't really look into it that much. i think i'm definitely conscious about my plastic use because it has been talked about in the news and media more and more, and i think we're becoming more aware of what we use. it really matters to me that we deliver sustainable life that we live a sustainable life and that we don't harm the planet in which we live in an unnecessary way, which is currently what i'm seeing. rosie's campaign is similar but separate to a much larger global movement. we urge everyone to do the same, wherever you are. sit outside your parliament or local government building

until your nation is on a safe pathway to a below two degree warming target. it was started by a 16—year—old swedish schoolgirl called greta thunberg, who in september started skipping class and sitting outside government buildings. doing this has put her cause and her on the global stage, and now tens of thousands of children across belgium, germany, sweden, switzerland and australia have followed her lead. however, these protests aren't limited to mainland europe. tomorrow, pupils in the uk will be walking out in more than 30 cities and towns. i'm off to meet the girl who's already been doing this for weeks in the scottish highlands. to keep our carbon to a minimum as promised, we've hired an electric car to go north to meet her in fort william. turns out you have to plan your journey around charging, which, let's just say, i didn't do straightaway.

so, we're just getting a bit ofjuice. we didn't bank on different chargers taking different speeds. yesterday it took us an hour, and today... it's saying it's going to take us three! eventually we get enough power to push on, but not for long. it's usually the job of environmental lobbyists or experienced campaigners to tell the people in power to do more about climate change, so what greta and rosie represent is the growing number of younger voices now able to do that as well. hi, how are you? i'mjames. patiently waiting at fort william is 13—year—old holly gillibrand, and her mum, kate. i guess you didn't do quite enough research before you set off. are you blaming me?

the car is partly responsible as well. what do we want? climate action. when do we want it? now! in solidarity with greta, holly has been missing an hour of class every friday morning. what do we want? climate action. when do we want it? now! i care about climate change because it's my future and it's pretty bleak if we don't do anything about climate change. i want to get scottish leaders to take climate change seriously, and that they're destroying my future. most of my teachers are quite supportive of me. unfortunately the highland council and my headteacher don't like what i'm doing. if they say they're going to punish you in some way, will that put you off doing it? no. it's the very point about missing school that makes people realise it is important and we're willing to sacrifice an hour of education a week to protest against climate in action. the government says it's up

to individual schools on what to do about pupils walking out, but stress term time leave should only be given in exceptional circumstances. critics have said that what this movement is doing is sort of promoting truancy, it's promoting skipping school, and in a way they're right, aren't they? no, not all. education is important, and i think what they're doing at the moment shows that they are educated and that they're aware, and that it's going to get to the stage where education really doesn't matter. do you think the protest will be just as effective outside of school hours? i think it needs to be during school hours because they have to show that they're prepared to make that sacrifice. by the year 2100, experts think temperatures could go up by as much as five celsius, fundamentally changing the world we live in.

for holly and rosie's generation, it's within touching distance. it's a small price to pay for standing up for our planet. i mean, if you get a detention, that's nothing compared to how we will suffer in the future if nothing is done. we can speak now to 17—year—old anna taylor, one of the organisers behind tomorrow 5 national protests, and carl ward, who's chief executive of the city learning trust, a group of schools covering around 6000 students. tell our audience why you say it is 0k to tell our audience why you say it is ok to go on strike tomorrow? i think it's necessary to go on strike tomorrow because we feel like we have to do this, we feel like we don't have another choice. and if i wasn't going on strike tomorrow, i wouldn't be having this conversation she's millions of conversations and

debates have been sparked off across the world because of students going on strike, and that's what we need to do in order to prevent the catastrophe we're about to fall into. if you were able to vote in general elections, do you think you'd still be doing it or would that make up for the fact that you feel at the moment politicians are ignoring you? i think! feel at the moment politicians are ignoring you? i think i would still be doing it. bringing the voting age down to 16 is only one of our demands, and although that would help us, i don't think voting in general elections is enough to make the politicians listen. if it was enough, then they would have addressed this issue further in the past. how long are you going to walk out of your school for tomorrow? i'm missing school for the whole day. what does the head say? the head teacher is actually quite supportive. she agrees with my because of. i think she would prefer it if because of. i think she would prefer itifi because of. i think she would prefer it if i wasn't missing school but she thinks it is necessary and she understands. how often are you prepared to miss a day of school? we're planning to do it monthly. comment, what do you say to anna

taylor about her protest? firstly, i would say i think climate change is massively important, as a parent of two children, i am really concerned about what the world is going to be like for them when they are 40 and 50 and no doubt i am long—on.” like for them when they are 40 and 50 and no doubt i am long-on. i feel like there is a but coming... —— i am long gone. yeah, there is a but coming. the but really is the fact that when students go to school, their parents revived in local for teachers and head teachers in those schools and the most important thing in that the base element is to keep students safe. and that's the issue which i suppose i have here and flagged up, that students walking out of lessons tomorrow in an unplanned manner, in a situation where they could be anywhere of a certain age, i think is not safe. so

our advice would be to have a planned protest, lots of this could happen, for example, in an individual school, in conversations with the head teacher, where a planned protest by a number of students could be organised to. and that would be far safer than studentsjust not that would be far safer than students just not turning that would be far safer than studentsjust not turning up that would be far safer than students just not turning up to school and missing lessons. or indeed walking out of school. anna, just answer that safety point? of this is a planned protest in many ways of. we've advised students to ask their head teachers and talk to their teachers about it. and i think in terms of safety if we don't do something now, then children's safety will be at risk in the future as well, thousands of kids are dying every year because of pollution, that's a health and safety risk. and be specific in terms of what you wa nt be specific in terms of what you want this current government to do now, when it comes to climate change? we want them to declare a climate emergency immediately. which would mean what? which would mean

them prioritising and other mental reform. at the moment they seem to be prioritising economic policies, brexit is all over the news, but environmental reform has very much taken a backseat and we don't have time to wait for that to become a priority in the future. thank you very much. maybe we'll talk again if the protests continue. anna taylor, one of the organisers, and carl ward, chief executive of the city learning trust. the proportion of patients treated or assessed in a&e hospitals in 4 hours in england last month was the lowest since modern records began. let's get more from our health reporterjohn owen — what are the detailsjohn? it's not good news, is it? it's not, no. so, the statistics which we have received within the last hour or so show us that the proportion of patients treated or assessed in axe emerge in hospitals within the four hour benchmark in england is the lowest since modern records began. so, hospitals are supposed to treat

and discharge or admit and transfer 95% of their patients within four hours. and what we've seen is that injanuary, hours. and what we've seen is that in january, just 84.4% hours. and what we've seen is that injanuary, just 84.4% of patients we re injanuary, just 84.4% of patients were seen within that four hour benchmark. and that is down to 85.3% injanuary benchmark. and that is down to 85.3% in january last year. and benchmark. and that is down to 85.3% injanuary last year. and it is also down from the previous low of 84.6%. so they really are missing the benchmark by quite a considerable distance. it means that 330,000 patients in england waited longer than they should have before being treated or admitted into hospital. that data has been compiled since 2004 and this is the worst month that we've seen on record since then. so what do the nhs say and what to do figures tell us about how the nhs is doing? it shows that there is immense pressure on the system. there is immense pressure on the syste m. eve n there is immense pressure on the system. even without a big flu outbreak this winter, and even without the severe cold weather that

has precipitated crises in previous yea rs, has precipitated crises in previous yea rs , we has precipitated crises in previous yea rs, we are has precipitated crises in previous years, we are still seeing the wait times in a&e performing quite poorly. some doctors are telling us that they saw a higher proportion of complexity cases than usual, which might account for some of the problem. and we are also being told by an nhs spokesperson that if you ta ke by an nhs spokesperson that if you take december and january together, the nhs outperformed december and january of last year. but if you ta ke january of last year. but if you take january in isolation, the figure is the lowest we've seen since records of this kind were kept backin since records of this kind were kept back in 2004. staying with health... would you get your blood pressure checked while you got your hair cut? what about while waiting fora train? or at a football match? the ideas are part of a ten year plan to tackle the major causes of heart attacks, strokes and dementia. a new group of organisations led by public health england and nhs england wants to improve the detection and treatment of abnormal heart rhythms, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. these are the main causes

of cardiovascular disease, and its hoped tackling the causes will prevent 150,000 cases. government figures say over five million people are currently living with undiagnosed high blood pressure in england alone. philippa hicken had a heart attack at 39 and feels medics didn t take her symptoms seriously because of her age and gender. greg tanner had a stroke seven months ago. simon gillespie is the chief executive for the british heart foundation. also from the charity, is senior cardiac nurse philippa hobson, who is going to do some demonstrations for us. thank you all very much for coming on the programme. philippa hicken, you were 39 when you had a heart attack — looking back, where their warning signs that potentially you missed? yes. i think looking back, i didn't consider the fact that

actually i could be having a heart attack. i had knowledge of what signs and symptoms of a heart attack we re signs and symptoms of a heart attack were but it didn't ever fit in to a female aged 39 could be one of those people having a heart attack. and when you were seeing the medics, they weren't thinking it was possible for you to have a heart attack waste gas no. i was told i had a virus and go home and rest. and what has been the impact of having a heart attack aged 39? and what has been the impact of having a heart attack aged 397m has changed my life completely. i was a police officer up, i was medically retired as a result. i have two young children. so obviously, i'm spending more time with them but certainly from a health point of view, i'm a lot more aware now of listening to my body. if there's a sign or symptom that i think isn't quite as it should be, i looked into it and see if i can find out what the problem might be. and i'm far more aware now of eating

properly, exercise, health... how do you ever had a free nhs health check? no. greg tanner, have you ever had one? yes. why? it was originally suggested by the gp surgery, i have a very good gp and very good health centre so we get regular messages and they invite you into have it done what happened to you last summer? i had a stroke. quite out of the blue, i had no idea that i was likely to have won. circumstances were very fortunate andl circumstances were very fortunate and i look normal today compared to and i look normal today compared to a lot of people but it was the combination of the treatment that i was able to get, it was fairly revolutionary at the time, and physically i recovered very quickly. cognitively i still find some issues, when they've been sticking

something in your brain i guess it is only natural. but i was very lucky in the circumstances. a lot of people who have had strokes would be looking at me and thinking, he can't have had a bad stroke, but i think it was really down to this new treatment, the from back to, which has to be given within four hours andl has to be given within four hours and i was very lucky to be within range of a hospital that could do that in the time. . how old were you when you had your stroke? 63. simon and philip up, what is it that you are trying to make people aware of when it comes to heart attacks, strokes, high blood pressure? there are three underlying conditions that are three underlying conditions that a re really are three underlying conditions that are really significant contributory factors in terms of the risk of developing heart and circulate of a b disease problems, heart, stroke, dementia. we need to address all three of those and socialise the concept that we can be talking about these and we should know our numbers in the same way that we know our pin numberfor our in the same way that we know our pin number for our bank in the same way that we know our pin numberfor our bank card. it is ok to talk about them. the earlier you

act on an abnormal reading, the more likely you are to have a better outcome. philippa and greg actually had good outcomes from what could easily have been, very easily, a fatal incident. so if your blood pressure is high, that is not good news? it is not at all and you need to do something about it. we're going to take my blood pressure, just because we can and because we're talking about it. and you can tell me what's normal, what's high, what is low. philip up, you have done this many times, why are you suggesting people at home by one of these and do it on themselves? yes, indeed, many people do so. they can range from £15 up to more costly models. you don't have to do that, you can get it tested in a range of places, pharmacies, doctors' surgeries. we at the bhf are testing out these ideas in other areas like football stadium, for example. to give people the opportunity to take it part of normal life because otherwise, unfortunately you will run the risk of having a really

catastrophic event in future. what leads to high blood pressure? catastrophic event in future. what leads to high blood pressure7m catastrophic event in future. what leads to high blood pressure? it can bea number of leads to high blood pressure? it can be a number of things, lifestyle can be a number of things, lifestyle can be part of it... drinking too much, smoking, fatty foods? all those kind of things, high cholesterol as well, you need to be tested for blood pressure and cholesterol as well. and for atrial fibrillation, an irregular heartbeat, you need to have a pulse check as well. your blood pressure is absolutely perfect! phew! can i check your pulse...? what is perfect! phew! can i check your pulse. . . ? what is perfect, perfect! phew! can i check your pulse...? what is perfect, what perfect! phew! can i check your pulse. . . ? what is perfect, what do you mean? your blood pressure is 124/85. ideally it will be less than 140/90. a dr wood initiate medication if it was different. so, over 140... over 90. alarm bells should be ringing. we don't want it to go any higher than that, definitely. and can it be too low? it can be but it is not associated

so much with heart attack and stroke. so, free nhs health checks, anybody can avail themselves of? between 40 and 74. ok. you can go online and use the heart age to an confined that on the nhs england website or on the british heart foundation website and you can get some idea, if you know what your numbers are, of what your heart age is compared to your chronological age. is your heart wearing better than you or worse? thank you all of you. and continued good health. thank you very much. thank you so much for your many, many many m essa 9 es much for your many, many many messages about shamima begum, the 19—year—old regna nt british messages about shamima begum, the 19—year—old regnant british citizen who is in a refugee camp, who left bethnal green four years ago with her school pals to effectivelyjoin isis. she married an isis fighter.

she is now, she says, nine months pregnant and she wants to come back to britain. this one says... why are we giving airtime to this unrepentant person? surely there are many more deserving cases already in the uk. we don't support terrorism here. this one says... treason is serious but to show such arrogance and no remorse, the woman shouldn't be allowed back. she would be a danger to all. such hypocrisy, too. she hates the way we live but once the state to look after her and her baby. andrew says... first and foremost i am a humanitarian but has been said by many other commentators today, one cannot cherry pick once affiliations. what is most disturbing is the young woman's unfazed reaction to decapitated heads of detractors of the aforementioned isis. certainly at the age of 15 it is difficult to appreciate the concept of radicalisation in one so young. that said, this youngster has stated she has no regrets injoining the caliphate and given that europewide

cities have been attacked, i don't imagine there will be much empathy. this one says... if 210—year—old boys can be charged with murder, a 15—year—old should be charged appropriately also. —— two ten—year—old boys. iassume appropriately also. —— two ten—year—old boys. i assume he is referring to the boys who killed james butcher in liverpool many yea rs james butcher in liverpool many years ago. he goes on... do not defend her treasonous act against the crown and the country. and there are so many messages, we will try and read some more before 11 o'clock. last year a unit supporting a crucial part of the familyjustice system set up to prevent the children of drug and alcohol addicted parents being taken away from them was forced to close because of government cuts. family drug and alcohol courts were set up in 2008 and what they did was help parents tackle their drink or drug addiction and keep their children. it was hailed as one of the biggest innovations to the system for 40 years. well today the national unit supporting that work has been given a lifeline by private funders.

in a moment we'll talk about what that means with a former children's minister and one of the people involved in setting up the system. but first, last year on this programme we looked at how the court helped john and his son. the way normal family court works is, you're just represented by your lawyer, you're not really given a voice, everything has to go through your solicitor, hearings are every sort of three months. so in that big gap a lot can happen. but fdac was totally different to that. we bring the parent into court every two weeks. most of those hearings take place without their lawyers so the parents begin to find their voice and they begin to become confident in a system that they really understand is trying to help them. i'm joined by my guests including a

conservative mp who was formerly children's minister. james, first of all, you have launched this fundraising campaign to get this unit back up and running, 200 and £80,000, why? we as a firm, had always wanted a wider social aim rather thanjust acting always wanted a wider social aim rather than just acting for clients. we don't do care work, we specialise in high net worth, family and divorce proceedings. we saw the campaign which was launched last year, we got in touch and said how can we help... nick crichton, the judge who was in our clip, who has sadly since died. that's correct, yeah. he said the government was not coming up with any money and we said, can we help with either

campaigning or money? it turned out money was the thing he wanted. so we launched a campaign to try and raise the profile of that and asked together with another organisation and wealth managers came up with the funds to at least keep it going for now. and why, when you look at the money that it gusts and the benefits that come out of it, is it value for money, mary? the actual fdac courts, and there are a number of them still around the country, are value for money in the longer term because they help parents get over their addictions and as we saw in the case ofjohn, they are able to be reunited with their families, they don't come back into the system, fdac was set up to prevent children and he's coming back into the system ona and he's coming back into the system on a recurrent basis without their problems being sorted out. this money, which is the private funders money, which is the private funders money, enables a central partnership to be set up to support those in local fdacs to continue and to set up local fdacs to continue and to set up new fdacs because we believe this should be much more widely available

to children and families the country. tim loughton, when you were children's minister in the department for education, this was funded to national unit was funded, why was that stopped?” funded to national unit was funded, why was that stopped? i was children's minister back in 2010 after fdac had been set up and absolutely renewed the funding to expand fdacs around the country and then in 2015 the government gave three—year funding to set up this national unit to help expand the project and give ongoing support to new fdacs. it was originally only for three years. but we still need the funding for this unit, because it still has a big job to do, to expand from our current existing 13 fdacs to more around the country. and it is a shame, we've been lobbying hard, that the government haven't so far come up with additional funding but i do pay tribute to james and mary, to the ce ntre tribute to james and mary, to the centre forjustice tribute to james and mary, to the centre for justice and tribute to james and mary, to the centre forjustice and the other partners who have come together to

provide private funds and i've said to the now children's minister, who is supportive of fdac's work, it would be great if the government could match the funds, because the private sector, independent people who know the worth of this project, have put their money up front and i think the government needs to match that as well. but thank goodness this has been saved for the foreseeable future so that...” mean, you know and you are obviously pressing the case but it is not working so far, in the long run it saves the taxpayer money, it is absurd that the national unit isn't being funded centrally?” absurd that the national unit isn't being funded centrally? i completely agree. and that is why i went to see the children's minister, the justice minister, and other members of parliament and members of the lord is putting pressure on as well, we haven't got a definite no yet and i know the children's minister is looking at other ways of funding within the department to contribute to this. you're right, this is a no—brainer. financially it saves lots of money but more importantly it keeps more kids with their families and keeps them away from

coming back into the care system and gets those parents off drug and alcohol addiction problems that they may have, it's a win—win situation all round and we needed to expand in the future for more kids to benefit. matching the private funding would be something, but actually, should this be taxpayer funded ? be something, but actually, should this be taxpayer funded?” be something, but actually, should this be taxpayer funded? i think particularly local fdacs, the actual courts themselves, need a cross government funding and they need cross agency funding in their local areas. i think a central unit could be really helpful in enabling that to happen, and yes, with some extra government funding to support that it's more likely to be able to do the work it needs to do to grow fdacs more widely across the country. thank you all of you for coming on the program ijust need to bring you this breaking news. it is about the duke of edinburgh, he will face no further action over that collision on the road near sandringham last month. that is just in from the cps. the duke of

edinburgh will face no further action over that car accident near sandringham last month. i'm going to read some more messages about shamima begum, wants to come back to britain having left the uk aged 15 to become a jihadis bride and join isis. this one says... byjoining isis. this one says... byjoining isis she effectively renounced her uk citizenship, she has no right to come home, particularly as she shows no remorse. this one says... she is a criminal, she was totally aware of what she was going to, as well as herfriends. she what she was going to, as well as her friends. she loses all her rights as a british citizen. admitting that seeing severed heads in bins didn't faze her. bring the baby backed out and have it put into care. bring her look, let herface the full force of the law. this one says... this woman should never be allowed to return to this country. she chose her life, she should suffer the consequences. thank you very much for your many messages, i'm sure they will continue to come in. and thanks for your company today. bbc newsroom life is next.

for many of us the day started as it meant to go on a victim early morning sunshine but we have got some dense fog in the forecast fuzzy we are still drawing on the milder airso we are still drawing on the milder air so eventually the temperatures will start to recover once the mist and fog has lifted through central, southern and south—western areas. the sunshine working its way northwards as we head through the day. the best of the temperatures perhaps for north—east scotland, we could see highs of around 15 celsius. so, a fine end to the day but under clear skies as we head through tonight, the temperatures will drop away partially through central and eastern areas, where we could see temperatures low as —2 in some spots. so, a frost expected and we see the return of that mist and

fog, which may be a bit more extensive as we start friday morning. and once again, rather like today, it will be stubborn to clear. but then for most of us another good—looking day, plenty of sunshine on offer. temperatures perhaps a little better. the cloud increasing and the wind strengthening for parts of scotla nd and the wind strengthening for parts of scotland and northern ireland. you re watching bbc newsroom live — it's11am and these are the main stories this morning. shamima begum — one of three schoolgirls who left london in 2015 to join the islamic state group, says she wants to return to the uk so her unborn baby can

be looked after. if you have been out there against the advice of the foreign office to go, and engaged in support or activities of terrorism, you should be prepared, if you come back, prepared to be questioned, investigated and potentially prosecuted. the prime minister faces another rebellion on brexit in parliament as mps prepare to debate the next steps in the process. the duke of edinburgh will face no further action over his collision with another car near sandringham last month.