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hello, you're watching afternoon live, i'm simon mccoy. today at 2. a british schoolgirl who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home but she could face prosecution did you ever see executions?” did you ever see executions? i saw beheadings. what was that like? it didn't phase me. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 200a. coming up on afternoon live, all the sport with will perry. happy valentine's day to you firstly, in sport, more on shannon gabriel who claims he asked england captainjoe gabriel who claims he asked england captain joe road if gabriel who claims he asked england captainjoe road if he liked boys during the third test and has apologised and tributes pouring in for the man behind manchester
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united's class of 92, eric harrison, who has died at the age of 91. —— joe root. who has died at the age of 91. —— joe root. thank you, i think... (i) and helen willetts has all the weather we will have a weather update later. also coming up, it's the end of an era, as airbus announces it's pulled the plug on the world's biggest passenger plane, the a380 superjumbo. hello everyone, this is afternoon live, our main story, a teenage woman who ran away to join fighters from the islamic state group in syria four years ago and now wants to return to britain will face a police investigation if she comes back, according to a government minister.
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shamima begum, who's now 19, was one of three schoolgirls who left east london in 2015. in an interview with the times, she talked about seeing "severed heads" in bins while there and said that it "did not faze her". the security minister ben wallace told the bbc that shamima begum, who's now in a syrian refugee camp, faces potential prosecution for committing terrorist offences. here's our correspondent jon donnison. "bring me home." four years after running away to join the islamic state group and become a teenagejihadi bride, shamima begum wants to come back to britain. she's one of hundreds of women and children to flee is‘s last tiny bolthole in baghuz, eastern syria. and this sprawling refugee camp in the north of the country is now home to the former east london schoolgirl, 19 years old, nine months pregnant, having already lost two children to sickness and malnutrition. after several weeks in the camp,
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and due to give birth any day, she was discovered by anthony loyd, a journalist with the times newspaper. she spoke to me, she was a veiled. she spoke to me in a london accent. i said, you're a london girl, aren't you? and she said, i'm a bethnal green girl, and then i knew. so then we talked — there was no one else, just her and i. and i said, can you lift your niqab so i can see your face? and she said, yes, i'm shamima begum. she was just 15 when she made the journey to the battlefields of syria, seen here en route in turkey with two teenage school friends who made the same journey. she married an islamic state fighter. she says she has no regrets, and says at least, initially, life in syria met all her aspirations. at her former school, questions have been asked
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about whether more could have been done to intervene to stop the teenager going. the government now says it won't provide diplomatic help to get shamima begum out of syria, and, if she makes it back on her own, she could face charges. ultimately, what we have to do is protect the public, and people that went out there, often as amateurs, are now professional terrorists, or professional supporters of terrorism, and we have to make sure we mitigate that threat should they come back. others, though, believe shamima begum should be treated as a victim. we're talking about 15—year—old children who were groomed. they were on the internet, they were radicalised. theirfamilies had no idea whatsoever about what was going on. i appreciate she is now 19, but these were individuals who were groomed. with the fall of islamic state in syria imminent, more supporters like shamima begum will likely flee. some will seek to return to the uk.
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their legal status is not clear. jon donnison, bbc news. earlier, this update from bethnal green. this is a very multicultural part of london, an area that shamima begum knew so well before she left for syria four years ago. there is a large asian community here, many have been telling me that what she did, going to syria, joining the so—called islamic state, they say to me it doesn't represent them and does not represent their muslim faith, either. where they are divided is what should happen if and when shamima begum it comes back to britain. some of them say she joined a murderous group, she should stay out there, she has not appeared particularly remorseful. others say that she was 15 when she left, she should be given the benefit of the doubt, and that was the view of one of the students who came to —— went
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to the same school as her at the same time. the school is in that direction, and i have been speaking toa direction, and i have been speaking to a few students who went to that school. one of them said to me that she should be given the benefit of the doubt, another said to me that that what happens to shamima begum is not representative of the community, but they are following what happened closely. let's talk to our security correspondent gordon corera. the difficulty for all security forces is working out exactly if she has done anything wrong. that's right, the officials have made clear that if she returned to the uk, she would be assessed to see whether she has committed any serious criminal acts, but the challenge is really knowing that and even more so being able to prove it. because the challenges of collected admissible
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—— collecting admissible evidence from syria are enormous, even though there may be suspicions about what she may have done and if some of it would constitute criminal acts, having evidence that you could bring to courts to prosecute may be a challenge. there is this question about what may happen, in some cases there have been prosecutions of those returning, so it is certainly not impossible that could happen but also difficulties in being able to bring about any kind of prosecution and to know exactly what someone was doing when they were out there. if she comes back, there is a newborn baby she comes back, there is a newborn ba by to she comes back, there is a newborn baby to be considered, also the issue of whether she becomes a lightning rod for those pro—and anti—isis. she certainly going to be one of the most visible well—known returnees if she comes back, there would then be questions about how she could live, in what circumstances she could live, even if she was not prosecuted. there are a lot of challenges here to think about and worth saying, she perhaps is one of the most famous people who
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has gone out to iraq and syria, to go andjoin has gone out to iraq and syria, to go and join the caliphate, as she saw it, but there are many others as well, and many others who will have been held by the kurdish forces or who at some point in the near future may come into their hands, as those last pockets of isis territory collapse. i think lots of countries are facing up to these quite serious challenges, which is, what do you do not just with foreign fighters but with their children, with those that are married, with those who you suspect were involved but you are not certain. a lot of challenges for a host of countries and this case is just one of those, one of the more high—profile examples of these cases. she was a child when she went out there, she was 15. that's right and some people have said, what kind of responsibility does she have? she stayed out there, and it is notable in her interview she does not regret having gone out there. balancing
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those different issues, her original motivation and age and her staying out there and the reasons why she now says she wants to come back, will be important, and part of that assessment, what risks you might pose, what risks you might face if she were to come back. thank you very much. here in westminster, theresa may is facing the threat of another rebellion by her own backbenchers today as she tries to maintain support for her brexit plan. mps have started debating the next steps in the process ahead of a vote in the house of commons later this afternoon. our political correspondent jonathan blake reports it should have been just another day at westminster, but, instead, there is trouble in the air again. the prime minister is facing another revolt from her own mps. the house of commons has another chance to debate and vote to back or block theresa may's attempts to get changes to her brexit deal. this parliament's mandate must now be given the opportunity to achieve its end,
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and the prime minister the chance to do so. so, it is clear that the government's priority is to address the indefinite nature of the backstop, which, under article 50, is legally required to be temporary. but the devil is in the detail, and the wording of the motion the government has put forward for mps to vote on. it states that the house of commons welcomes the prime minister's statement earlier this week, and reiterates its support for the approach to leaving the eu expressed by the house on the 29th of january. it might sound simple enough, but, in that series of votes at the end of last month, the majority of mps voted to reject a no—deal brexit, so some conservatives who want bad option to remain on the table say they can't support the government tonight. those mps working to stop a no—deal brexit say their colleagues threatening to rebel need to acknowledge they are outnumbered. downing street is desperate on this now.
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it would have been much better if they had consulted the 100 or so mps which represent the majority of their backbenchers, before tabling this motion. i think the lack of consultation has not improved the atmosphere of trust. i think those who are going to vote against this tonight need to face up to the facts that twice, now, the majority in parliament has been made clear. most of us do not want to leave without a deal. the government argues this is not the time for a party squabble. the debate today is an opportunity to show that the house of commons is behind the prime minister in her bid to renegotiate the irish backstop, because, if those who are watching believe that we have a united parliament, that would deliver an agreement with the european union if those changes were made, then they are more likely to happen. if the government loses tonight's vote, it won't stop the brexit process in its tracks. but downing street say defeat will significantly damage theresa may's chances of getting changes to her brexit deal at a time when progress is already slow.
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jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. our chief political correspondent vicki young is in central lobby. earlier you came up with a wonderful phrase, you said that this was like shadow—boxing. phrase, you said that this was like shadow-boxing. what these folks could show is the direction that things are going in, different groupings there are as you know and different tensions there are in the house of commons which have been very much on show this lunchtime, where you have pro "brexit" conservatives very much wanting the government to keep no deal on the table, that is the default legal position, the other side, those who wa nt to position, the other side, those who want to delay brexit, rule out a no
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deal, really urging the government to make it clear that they accept that the house voted for that a couple of weeks ago. difficult time for ministers. let's speak to the communities minister, james brokenshire i. start by talking about housing, your day job. brokenshire i. start by talking about housing, your dayjob. talking about housing, your dayjob. talking about 25,000 new homes today, how quickly can people expect those to actually be built. the announcement todayis actually be built. the announcement today is about investing in infrastructure, things like roads, so we can infrastructure, things like roads, so we can get the right things in place to allow the housing growth to happen but it is also about unlocking public—sector land, looking at ministry of defence land, seven sites getting onto those. it is about ensuring we have the right things in place. 222,000 new homes delivered, progress being made but knowing we need to speed up as well as using new techniques on how we build, sending modern methods of
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construction off—site, and funding to increase quebec speed up investment in hertfordshire, getting things in place, seeing homes being built. back to brexit, that is what is happening here today, does the government accept that mps voted to ta ke government accept that mps voted to take no deal off the table a couple of weeks ago. what we know is that the way to avoid a no deal is by voting for a deal, and as the law exists, in terms of what this place, the house of commons voted for, all those months ago, to trigger article 50, knowing there was a two year timeline around it, that is where legislation and lawsuits, people don't want to see us leave without a deal, leave with no deal in place, you vote for something. what we are doing is seeing what that compromise is, seeing if we can get votes through parliament to approve a deal, and that is where the
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government is focused, national interest, giving effect to the wishes of the public with the referendum and seeing that we leave oi'i referendum and seeing that we leave on time. there are many that say that the place where compromise can be made is members of the labour party, a closer relationship, customs union, is the prime minister prepared to look to them? the space for compromise around dealing with the northern ireland insurance arrangements, the challenges of the belfast good friday agreement and having seamless arrangements on the island of ireland. high environmental standards, high standards in relation to the workplace and therefore, work we are doing, colleagues across the house, to ensure that can be in place, that there is recognition of the significance of that. as we leave the european union, setting out the new course for the country, fulfilling out intent and ambitions of what the public voted for but
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equally knowing we maintain high standards in place and assure in that way. so much tension in place in the house of commons chamber, within your own party. as soon of the secretary of state says one thing, which pleases one side of the party, the others get upset. how can the party come together? there is space for agreement, it firmly remains there, this is about working with the eu to get the legal assurances in relation to the arrangements of northern ireland, thatis arrangements of northern ireland, that is absolutely key, and therefore, being able to move forward positively. i still remain upbeat in that way as to how we can get the assurances equally, get the space for agreement here in parliament to see that we get the vote through and profoundly, we act in the national interest. we have been charged to ensure we leave the european union, give effect to the european union, give effect to the european union, give effect to the european union, and the government is firmly focused on that, prime
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minister talking to leaders across the eu, steve barclay, brexit secretary, out in brussels and strasbourg early this week, that work remains firmly intent on delivering a deal, that is how we avoid no deal, get behind the prime minister, get a deal. we will get a deal. tensions and potential splits not just deal. tensions and potential splits notjust in the conservative party but labour, rumour and discontent amongst some labour mps who are upset that jeremy corbyn amongst some labour mps who are upset thatjeremy corbyn seems very relu cta nt to upset thatjeremy corbyn seems very reluctant to move towards the party policy of holding another referendum. talk of some of them may be even leaving the party, one of them said to me the other day, we are getting to the point where we simply have nothing left to lose. this was the message from the deputy leader tom watson. a number of your colleagues seem to be on the brink of breaking away from the party. i hope they are not, i have read the media reports like everyone else. i wa nt media reports like everyone else. i want this party to stay together and
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isaid want this party to stay together and i said before at conference, people should stay and fight their corner, we need an electorally viable labour party. a feeling among your colleagues is that the breakaway is unstoppable. i hope it isn't, i hope people will do everything they can to try to stop it from happening. will you be trying to stop it? yes, for the last two years, i was trying to hold everyone together, we need all voices around the top table of the labour party, all traditions represented. people expect the labour party to be united. we have got to change britain for the good. you sound worried, how damaging would this be? i am worried about it, i don't know who is going to go. inaudible lam inaudible i am worried enough to raise it with the party chair, the chair of the party, responsible for the general election. it is down to him to hold us together because it is going to
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harm us, electorally. tom watson, deputy leader of the labour party, talking tojohn deputy leader of the labour party, talking to john pienaar. deputy leader of the labour party, talking tojohn pienaar. these votes later today, due to start at five o'clock, sizeable chunk of conservative mps look like they will not back the government, they are likely to abstain, that could make the arithmetic pretty tricky for the government. with 43 days to go until march 29, there's been mounting concern amongst businesses at the prospect of leaving the eu without a deal. the future of uk fishing has been at the heart of the brexit debate — and ben thompson has been at a busy fish market in aberdeenshire this morning to see how they are preparing. welcome to peterhead fish market just north of aberdeen, and all the stuff that is down here will get sold this morning. these boxes of haddock down here go for about £120 this morning, caughtjust in the waters here. so what could brexit mean for the fishermen and the communities that rely on fishing here in scotland? well, with me is elaine from the clyde fishermen's association. good morning.
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it's so funny, isn't it? you see all of this here, yet most of it destined for europe, and any delays at the border, in the event of a no—deal brexit, could be disastrous for this industry, couldn't it? yes. these stocks are mainly fin fish, but yes, a lot of this goes to the eu. any fresh product, yes, any delays are disastrous, particularly as well for anyone who's fishing shellfish, because about 87% of that goes to the eu. and that's a time—critical market. 66, 68, 68... most uk fishermen voted overwhelmingly to leave the eu, so why? and what could brexit and specifically a no—deal brexit mean for fishermen? jimmy is with me from the scottish fishermen's association. good morning to you, jimmy. explain this. it's a bit of a conundrum, isn't it? because overwhelmingly fishermen around here voted to leave the european union, yet you rely on it for most of your sales. talk us through what's here and where it's going. well, we've got a wide array of fish here. we've got monkfish, squid, hake, haddock, cod.
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the other fish like the monkfish, the squid, more high—value species, our european cousins appear to have the appetite for those. if there is a no—deal brexit, and we talked about delays at the border, this stuff is perishable. it will go off at the border if it's in a queue. what does that mean for your? we've got to have a to keep the free flow that goes in and out of the uk, both ways. but we've also got to realise that there's a lot of politics in this. and we have no say in that. i also say that people are the market. i mean, politicians can posture all they want, but people need to eat, and we've got a good quality product here. so we will find a solution to this market, however we go about it. there's a real challenge for the fishermen here in this region about making sure that they have access to the waters that they want to fish in, and not subject to the quotas that determine what they can fish, but nonetheless some real challenges
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for an industry that is so important in this part of the world, and one that could have serious implications in the event of a no—deal brexit. now, airbus has pulled the plug on its a380 superjumbo, which entered service just 12 years ago. the last deliveries of the plane, which is the world's largest passenger aircraft, would be made in 2021. the superjumbo, which cost nearly £20 billion to develop, has faced fierce competition from smaller, more efficient aircraft and has never made a profit. our business correspondent emma simpson reports. when it first took to the skies, the a380 was billed as the future of long—haul air travel. a double—decker super jumbo, carrying more than 500 passengers. but, today, just 13 years after its launch, airbus has called it a day. i think what we are seeing here is the end of the large four engine aircraft and that is what it is. there has been speculation for years whether we were ten years too early with the 380. i think it becomes clear that we were probably at least ten years too late. passengers loved it.
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so much room. the a380 was designed to carry large numbers of people between heavily congested hub airports like london, dubai and singapore. but smaller, more fuel—efficient planes were already coming along. easier for airlines to fill. what is happening now is that the way we fly has changed. we all want to fly from our local airport and the modern twin engined aircraft allow us to do that. we can bypass the hubs. demand for this plane never really took off. its largest customer, emirates, has scaled back orders for new a380s, sealing this jumbo jet‘s fate. production will now end in two years' time. its wings are made in the uk, mostly at airbus's huge site
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here at broughton, in north wales. several hundred staff will be affected, but the hope is many will be redeployed to more popular models. i have onlyjust heard about it this morning. that is all i can say, really. it is quite sad, really. there is not a lot we can do about it. the a380 will still be in the skies for years to come. technically brilliant, but too expensive for many airlines. a jumbo project which ultimately never made a profit, but will still earn its place in aviation history. emma simpson, bbc news. prince philip will not face prosecution over his collision with another car in norfolk last month. the crown prosecution services says it isn't in the public interest after the 97—year—old surrendered his license.
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the duke of edinburgh's land rover freelander collided with another vehicle in norfolk last month. he later apologised to the occupants of the other car, two women and a baby. waiting times in a&e departments in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 200a. let's speak to our health reporterjohn owen. no huge surprise, the sense this has been a losing battle for some years, is it now lost? that is the sense, this is not good news at all, we found out this just this morning and the proportion of patients, within the proportion of patients, within the four hour benchmark, the lowest since the target was introduced. admitting 95% of patients within the four hour window, so they are falling some way short of that, as injanuary, falling some way short of that, as in january, 84.4% of falling some way short of that, as injanuary, 84.4% of patients were seen by them within that benchmark,
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thatis seen by them within that benchmark, that is down from january last year, and down from the previous lowest on record, march 2018. so, that means that something like 330,000 patients we re that something like 330,000 patients were waiting longer than they should have been before being treated or admitted in the hospital and there are those of us who are saying today that it will be a battle to keep on top of these white times, to keep within the four hour window, that it is being lost to. a serious impact on the hundreds of thousands of patients affected, but no nurse or doctor wants to see people in corridors, it has a demoralising effect on them as well. absolutely does and it shows there is still really intense pressure on the system, we have not seen the same sort of level of intensity in the headlines around the winter crisis this year as we saw last year but, these figures really do point to serious strains on the system, and this is despite the fact we have had
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relatively low levels of flu this year, and of norovirus, and despite that, and despite relatively clement weather, january has still been a really tough month for the nhs. thank you. let's have a look at the weather forecast and, helen thank you. let's have a look at the weatherforecast and, helen has thank you. let's have a look at the weather forecast and, helen has the forecast. normally, when standing here, iam forecast. normally, when standing here, i am moaning, forecast. normally, when standing here, iam moaning, i moan a lot about the cold but today it is lovely. it is! i wish about the cold but today it is lovely. it is! iwish we about the cold but today it is lovely. it is! i wish we couldjust trade places. not so lovely and sunny in the studio. two seasons in two seasons in one two seasons in one day, woke up this morning, frost on my car, many places had frost, fog was a big issue, don't forget about that, beautiful day but the fog is coming back. in aberystwyth, 15 degrees, we will reach 16 somewhere in the uk, the average is eight. very mild for this time of year, beautiful out and about. great news, really, if
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heading for a strolljust a bit after lunchtime, heading into the evening, sunshine persists in the east. cloud across the western side of the uk, very weak little weather front we have with us. high pressure is giving us this decent weather, keeping all the weather fronts at bay, pulling in a continental warm aircoming in from bay, pulling in a continental warm air coming in from the south, keeping the dry air, sunny sky weather across eastern areas but much sunnier in northern ireland, breaks in the cloud across scotland, and even when it is cloudy it is dry and even when it is cloudy it is dry and bright. through the evening and overnight, clear skies, long nights, temperatures falling away, night for scotland and northern ireland, less cloud than last night. but the payoff may be just enough breeze to keep the frost at bay in the west. for most of us, another light frost, slight frost, fog issue. high pressure relinquishing its grip, these weather fronts will make further progress eastwards, compared
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with the day. my main concern has to be the fog, not just through tonight but come tomorrow morning there will be some thick patches of fog in the valleys as we had this morning which will cause problems on the roads, potentially at some of the airport. one to watch, could be quite thick. tomorrow's chart looks different for the west, for england and wales, another day where we see temperatures into the dizzy heights of the mid teens, 16, 17 in a few spots tomorrow, patchy high cloud. and then, probably thick cloud coming into northern ireland, rain for the western isles, and windy day tomorrow across the west but for most of us, only tempering the field, 30 to 16 degrees, we are well above where we should be. —— 13 to 16 degrees. will it last of the weekend? yes, still dry and mild but the greater chance of rain, light rain, by sunday. more on that later. this is bbc news.
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our latest headlines: a british schoolgirl who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home but she could face prosecution. did you ever see executions? i saw beheadings. what was that like? it didn't faze me. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons.
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waiting times for accident and emergency units in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 200a. sport now on afternoon live with will perry. good afternoon. "a great coach and a great man" is how eric cantona has described former manchester united youth team coach eric harrison, who's died at the age of 81. he's credited with developing the talents of manchester united's class of ‘92, including david beckham, paul scholes and the neville brothers, as well as leading united to fa youth cup victories in 1992 and 1995. harrison was diagnosed with dementia four years ago. he's also been praised for his ability to "make good human beings" out of young players. he was our second father, he was the one that took us from the age of 1a and delivered us to the first team ready. i think it's probably disrespectful
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just to talk about the class of ‘92 because i think his biggest achievement was all those other players that he brought through with equal ability that prepared them for life, not just for manchester united. when you talk about eric harrison, he didn'tjust prepare you really for a life in football which was a big part, he prepared you to succeed in life through the values he instilled into you. there have been so many tributes to harrison already on social media, with gary neville tweeting, that he's lost his mentor, saying he and other manchester united players "owe him everything". david beckham posted on instagram, saying that he can still hear harrison yelling, "no more hollywood passes" at him in training. and sir alex ferguson has released a statement claiming that "eric's contribution to football, and not just manchester united, was incredible. it's been revealed that manchester united paid jose mourinho and his staff £19.6 million in compensation following his sacking in december. united revealed the figures in their second quarter financial results.
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mourinho was sacked after a run of poor results which left them 11 points off fourth place in the premier league. he had a contract until 2020 with the option of an extra year. west indies fast bowler shannon gabriel has revealed exactly what he said to england captain joe root which led to him being banned for the first four one day internationals. gabriel has admitted asking root if he likes boys, and says he's "deeply sorry" for his comments. this comes after root was heard on a microphone telling gabriel, "there's nothing wrong with being gay," and not to use it as an insult. in a statement, gabriel says... glasgow warriors centre hquones is likely to miss the rest
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of scotland's six nations campaign. it follows news that club—mate stuart hogg is struggling to be involved in the tournament again after damaging shoulder ligaments against ireland. jones suffered knee ligament damage in saturday's loss at murrayfield. both have had scans, with scotland hopeful that hogg will play a further part. england's jodi ewart—shadoff has a share of the lead in at the women's australian open golf. a bogey—free round of 65 leaves her 7—under par, along with taiwan's shoe wei—ling. england's bronte law is two adrift, with british open champion georgia hall 3—under. maria sharapova says she's "working through some painful days", after pulling out of indian wells with a shoulder injury. the five—time grand slam champion has now withdrawn
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or retired from two of the three events she's played in since september's us open. sharapova says she's managing the pain day—by—day. ronnie o'sullivan is in action in the third round of the welsh open in cardiff. these are the pictures. he is one frame from going out. against the world number 71. alexander ursenbacher of switzerland is the world number 71. o'sullivan earlier recorded the 994th century of his career in the first frame of the day. live coverage on the red button and bbc sport website right now. that's all the sport for now. it's been a year since a gunman opened fire at a high school in parkland, florida, killing 17 people, injuring another 17. people in the community are still living with physical and emotional reminders of what happened. this particular shooting sparked passionate cries for stricter gun controls in america. but to date, there has not been
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any meaningful change. the bbc s samira hussain reports from parkland, florida. good morning, have a great day, guys. a typical morning walk to school done by thousands across the country. but this is different. these kids go to marjory stoneman douglas, a name that will forever conjure images from this day. students fleeing for safety as a gunman armed with a semiautomatic rifle opened fire. this is the first one. anthony was shot five times. using his own body as a shield, he prevented the gunman from entering the classroom. he saved up to 20 kids, but, to this day, when he tries to sleep, he is taken right back to the shooting. i never sleep. sometimes i sleep but i can't sleep well.
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i dream a lot of that day. the same things that i see there, i see in my head. this is the building where the shooting happened. it can't be torn down. it's actually been preserved as evidence for the gunman's trial, a trial that has not even started yet. and so it stands like a constant concrete reminder of what happened that day. i love you with all my heart. i am telling you right now, i love you. i know what you did today. that is the accused gunman, nikolas cruz, in a green hospital gown, being comforted by his younger brother zachary. this police video was taken just hours after the shooting. you told him you loved him more than once. only because i'm his brother and, you know, the whole world is going to give him hate. why do i have to give him hate? are you angry at him? yes. what makes you angry? that he did what he did. he had no reason. i don't know. the shooting sparked a movement.
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they channelled their anger through activism, taking to the streets of washington, dc, by the thousands, demanding stricter gun control laws. for those students, this song became their anthem. # we can hug a little tighter...# i think through the actions that we have seen with our classmates, they have such a big audience and wide audience that not only were they heard, they inspired other people to get up and be heard, as well. i can't change what happened in the past. ijust need to make sure it doesn't happen again in the future. # you, you threw my city away.# but, one year on, victims of this mass shooting are still recovering and, one year on, federal gun—control laws have not changed. # we will shine.# samira hussain, parkland, florida.
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do you know your cholesterol level or your blood pressure? nhs england says people should know these personal details in the way they know their bank pin code because it could be a life—saver. here's our health correspondent, dominic hughes. let's just slip this on your hand. having your blood pressure taken or getting your cholesterol tested. these are simple steps that can alert us to the danger of developing cardiovascular disease. through heart attacks, stroke and dementia it's the main cause of premature death and disability in england. when he was aged 37, keith wilson had a heart attack out of the blue. now he's 60, and believes everyone should know if they are also at risk. i was at that age where i didn't feel it was relevant and there wasn't any standard practice that i was aware of for blood tests for cholesterol, or even blood pressure. it would be foolish not to take advantage of a system that allows you to be checked. i think if there's risk factors and you're aware of them,
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it's best to be aware of them before the event rather than after the event. so in order to tackle cardiovascular disease within the next decade, doctors want to be able to detect and treat 80% of all those with high blood pressure, to check the cholesterol levels of three quarters of all a0 to 75—year—olds and assess their risk of cardiovascular disease, and to treat with statins 45% of those found to be at high risk. we really want people to know what their numbers are. so these abcs — atrial fibrillation, blood pressure and cholesterol — people can find out their risk of having those through things like the nhs health check programme. so if you're aged between a0 and 7a, you get invited for a check every five years. these checks can often be done quickly and easily by a gp or a practice nurse. doctors say we all know our bank pin numbers, but not the important numbers relating to our blood pressure and cholesterol that could save our lives. dominic hughes, bbc news.
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of course it's notjust the uk that will be affected by brexit. germany has europe's biggest economy but it's on the brink of recession and many there are blaming the issue of brexit for slower growth. some are suggesting that the german chancellor angela merkel should come to theresa may's aid and help break the deadlock with the eu over brexit. our berlin correspondent jenny hill reports. europe's capitals are in countdown, perhaps none more so than berlin. a no—deal brexit looms ever closer, threatening germany's economic might. in the reichstag, they're worried. as every hour passes, politicians, industry leaders prepare for the worst, but germany's position stays the same. there's been this frequent idea that somehow merkel will save the day because it's going to be too costly for germany, too costly for german businesses, they're lobbying merkel very hard so eventually they will cave in.
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but it's not going to happen. germany has not changed its position. for germany, keeping the eu together is a raison d'etre and it's willing to pay an economic price for that. warm words for britain from europe's most famous deal—maker, but even angela merkel, with her reputation for compromise, has stuck to her script. "let's keep the relationship close," she said, "but there can be no cherry picking for britain." then last week, a new phrase. "with creativity," she said, "a solution to the irish backstop impasse might be found." was this finally, some wondered, merkel wading in to rescue the deal? she's a political pragmatist and she struggles with the notion that an unresolvable issue can really exist in the realm of politics. when mrs merkel says there is a way forward if we are creative about it, what does she actually mean?
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she says it's not upon her to resolve the brexit problem. in the corridors of german power, whispers. mrs merkel said to be frustrated with theresa may. but there is, they'll tell you here, no german plan b. when you speak to people here, behind closed doors, away from the tv cameras, on any given subject, you normally find views which are divergent to the official german government position. it's what you'd expect. brexit appears to be the exception. what you do encounter here consistently is frustration, a willingness to compromise, but also a sense that britain must make the first move. caught in the complexities of brexit, germany feels britain's loss but it will put europe first. jenny hill, bbc news, berlin. children across the uk are preparing
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to take part in protests tomorrow, calling for tougher measures to deal with global warming. headteachers have expressed concern that many pupils could be missing classes, and that the schools 4 climate action" protests will be disruptive. james waterhouse, a reporter with the victoria derbyshire programme, has been to fort william where one young teenager regularly takes part in demonstrations. i care about climate change because it's my future and it's pretty bleak if we don't do anything about climate change. for more than a century, our planet has been getting warmer. and the row over what global leaders should do about it isn't exactly cooling off. now, schoolchildren are taking a stand for their futures. we are on our way to meet a 13—year—old girl in the scottish highlands. it's usually the job of environmental lobbyists or experienced campaigners to tell the people in power to do more about climate change.
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but there are a growing number of younger voices now able to do that, as well. patiently waiting at fort william is 13—year—old holly gillibrand. what do we want? climate action! when do we want it? now! holly has been missing an hour of class every friday morning. thousands of students around the world shouldn't be having to strike from school to make our voices heard. i want to get scottish leaders to take climate change seriously, and that they are destroying my future. most of my teachers are quite supportive of me. unfortunately, the highland council and my headteacher don't like what i'm doing. if they say they are going to punish you in some way, will that put you off doing it? no. it's a small price to pay for standing up for our planet. i mean, if you get a detention, that is nothing compared to how we will suffer in the future if nothing is done.
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james waterhouse with that report. jamie will have all the latest business news shortly. first a look at the headlines on afternoon live. a british schoolgirl who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home, but she could face prosecution. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 200a. here's your business headlines on afternoon live. the european aircraft manufacturer airbus pulls the plug on its superjumbo. the last deliveries of the world's largest passenger aircraft, the a380, which costjust under £20 billion to develop, will be made in 2021. patisserie valerie's parent firm
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is bought out of administration for £13 million after an alleged fraud tipped it to collapse last month. the new owners, causeway capital, who will also include members of the management team, have said they hoped to keep all 96 patisserie valerie sites open. supermarket giant morrisons is facing legal action by women who work in its stores and warehouses. the women, both current and former employees, say they are not paid the same as male workers who are doing comparable jobs. rival asda recently lost the latest round of a long—running legal battle with its staff over equal pay. there's a last ditch atempt by china and the us to avoid another raft of sanctions being imposed by the trump administration. the us negotiators are meeting their chinese counterparts in beijing. trump said earlier the talks could help decide whether he escalates this trade war.
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it's largely a fight over china's technology ambitions, intellectual property copyright, but takes in a lot of other uissues around china's huge trade surplus with the us. the deadline is march 2nd when the us is threatening to put tariffs on $200 billion us of chinese goods. now last year china grew at its slowest pace in a decade. but today we had some strong numbers on china's export performance. let's see what the prospects are for this meeting. let's talk to samira hussain, north america business correspondent. what are the chances of a deal from this meeting? i think a lot of people are hoping but really we do not have any many details and terms of what they have been talking about. there are a lot of very thorny issues that still have to be worked out with beijing. including
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things that have to do with intellectual property rights. that isa intellectual property rights. that is a really big issue for the united states. mr trump has said if he sees enough progress he might delay that marked the second deadline if it seems like there can be some sort of deal worked out between the two countries. there are a lot of people involved in these discussions and the fact that we are even having these talks is really in fact a good sign that some details need to be worked out and are tough. the stock market follows these talks for several asleep. how damaging our of the trade tensions and potential com plete the trade tensions and potential complete war with china to the economy? absolutely. we are seeing a lot of companies reporting earnings that by and large these earnings have been somewhat strong but you
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are seeing a lot of companies talking about increased production costs or increase materials cost as a result of these trade war between china and the united states. it is certainly having an impact for companies. it is really in the american economy's best interests for this to be sort of dealt with as soon as for this to be sort of dealt with as soon as possible. again those issues are so soon as possible. again those issues are so tough. there is also the worry that in the past we have seen beijing has walked away or made agreements but then not stuck to them so there is also that concern as well. it has a global impact. we are feeling some of the tailwinds perhaps of this dispute. we saw figures coming out from germany today and some of the problems they come very close to recession over the last couple of quarters, some of the last couple of quarters, some of the problems are caused by trade
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tensions between the us and china. absolutely, and if you look at the us economy a lot of people are talking about the us economy slowing down, are we going to see recession, this kind of trade negotiation and this kind of trade negotiation and this trade war really does not help the overall us economy or the global economy. especially at a time when there is quite a bit of uncertainty in different regions of the world. thank you. the ftse100 managing to make small gains. be system is looking reasonably strong despite problems about free avat and announcement that production of the a380 is going to end. micro focus took over the
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softwa re to end. micro focus took over the software operations of hewlett—packa rd software operations of hewlett—packard enterprises two yea rs hewlett—packard enterprises two years ago and struggled to make it work but it seems not brilliant, still a decline, but they said their problems are coming to an end. that's all the business news. nasa has declared that the "opportunity" rover it sent to mars has officially ended its mission, after nearly 15 years on the red planet. the robotic vehicle transformed our understanding of mars, by confirming that water once flowed there. andy beatt has more. designed to lastjust 90 days, opportunity landed on mars in 2004 and instead decided it would stay a while, spending the next decade and a half roving the eerie martian landscape, reliably sending postcards back home, including proof that water, the necessary building block for life, did indeed flow at one point in martian history. but then a summer dust storm covered the rover‘s solar panels.
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on the 10th ofjune it sent back this image, before falling silent. now, after sending thousands of unreturned messages over the past eight months, scientists have come to the inevitable conclusion that opportunity is no more. it is therefore that i am standing here with a sense of deep appreciation and gratitude that i declare the opportunity mission is complete, and with it, the mars rover mission is completed. but mars exploration is not over yet. a new robot will be launched in 2020 and curiosity, which landed in 2012, is still covering ground. like many on social media, it offered its own eltonjohn tribute to its fallen forerunner, saying that your candle burned out long before your science ever will, but the death of the rover some have nicknamed oppy marks the end of the longest serving space robot,
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which gave us the first glimpses of hope of the possibility of life elsewhere. from peckham in south london to the west end, "only fools and horses" is one of britain's most popular sitcoms and now the story of the trotter family has been made into a musical. it's been co—written by paul whitehouse, who also stars as grandad, and the son of the sitcom's creatorjohn sullivan. our entertainment correspondent lizo mzimba has been to rehersals ahead of the official opening next week. del boy. # stick a pony in my pocket...# and rodney. stars of the musical based onjohn sullivan's long—running sitcom. it has been co—written by comedian paul whitehouse, who also plays grandad. it was because john sullivan was actually writing the musical when he died that the whole
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project really has a legitimacy that i thought was ok for me to try and work with. for the actors playing del boy and rodney, a daunting step playing characters made famous by david jason and nicholas lyndhurst. the fact it's a musical gives us a bit of distance from sir david and nicholas because sir david and nicholas did just the most incredible job. those characters are as good as they are thanks to john and those two actors. yeah, we don't want people to see a carbon copy of it because, for us, we don't want to do a carbon copy but also for people to watch, it's about sort of lending ourselves to it, giving the people what they want but also remaining sort of going at it a different way for it ourselves. the programme of course has been enjoyed by millions over the years and everyone here is hoping one of tv‘s most popular shows can also become one of the west end's most popular musicals.
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# why do only fools and horses work?# another warm day for many of us after a delay start and for some places it was foggy which caused some problems on the roads and again it will be an issue through the coming night. because we have winds from the south and south—west we are picking up moisture but it is pulling in warmer air so temperatures are peaking higher than they would normally at this time of year. plenty of sunshine except for the north west where we have the re m na nts of the north west where we have the rem na nts of very the north west where we have the remnants of very wet weather fronts. it is bright and dry with just the odd splatter of drizzle. this evening and overnight the skies are clear in the north so it is going to be called. there will not be hard frost but in the suburbs there could
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be temperatures a couple of degrees down from those in the north—west because in the north—west the wind is increasing. high pressure is still the dominant feature of the weather keeping weather fronts at the blood that south—westerly breeze will keep the fall could be. still the potential for the disruption to transport as we head through to night and friday morning. otherwise friday looks like a fairly decent day for most of us. the fog clears in the south, the frost lifts and we will see a good deal of sunshine lingering into the afternoon. temperatures will be getting into the mid—teens so we could see 15 or 16 through the day on friday with wispy cloud around the coasts of england and wales. increasing amounts of cloud for scotland and northern ireland. probably deals in the north—west and rain for the western isles. relatively mild. this
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time of year you still have the long night so temperatures will be per week tomorrow night pretty sharply. going into the weekend on a chilly note in the morning but for most of us the days will feel quite mild if you are out and about and will stay dry so good weather for heading out for a walk perhaps. more cloud on saturday but for northern ireland and the west of scotland, most of the rain hangs fire until late in the rain hangs fire until late in the day. for most of us it is dry and mild. ever so slowly that high pressure ruling pushes it, its grip and low pressure comes in. hello, you're watching afternoon live, i'm simon mccoy. today at 3: a british woman who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home but she could face prosecution. did you ever see executions? know,
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but i saw beheadings.” did you ever see executions? know, but i saw beheadings. i saw heads in a bin. it didn't faze me. —— no, but i saw beheadings. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england reach their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 200a. coming up on afternoon live — all the sport with will perry. coming up, more on the west indies bowler, shannon gabriel, he claims he asked england captainjoe root if he asked england captainjoe root if he liked boys during the third test and has apologised. we will bring you the latest on eric harrison, the manager of manchester united's 1992, who has died. and, ronnie o'sullivan has had a shock at the welsh open. thanks will, and we'll be joining you for a full update just after half—past. helen willetts has all the weather. two seasons in two seasons in one two seasons in one day, from frost
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and freezing fog to 15 degrees, well above the average, the question is: will it last into the weekend? more on that. also coming up, the queen meets competition winners and descendants of the original codebreakers descendants of the original codebreake rs of descendants of the original codebreakers of gchq. celebrating its 100th birthday. good afternoon and welcome to afternoon live, from westminster. a british woman who ran away to join fighters from the islamic state group in syria four years ago, and now wants to return to britain, will face a police investigation if she comes back, according to a government minister. shamima begum, who's now 19, was one of three schoolgirls who left east london in 2015. in an interview with the times, she talked about seeing "severed heads" in bins while there and said that it "did not faze her".
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the security minister ben wallace told the bbc that shamima begum, who's now in a syrian refugee camp, faces potential prosecution for committing terrorist offences. here's our correspondent jon donnison. "bring me home." four years after running away to join the islamic state group and become a teenagejihadi bride, shamima begum wants to come back to britain. she's one of hundreds of women and children to flee is's last tiny bolthole in baghuz, eastern syria. and this sprawling refugee camp in the north of the country is now home to the former east london schoolgirl, 19 years old, nine months pregnant, having already lost two children to sickness and malnutrition. after several weeks in the camp, and due to give birth any day,
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she was discovered by anthony loyd, a journalist with the times newspaper. she spoke to me, she was a veiled. she spoke to me in a london accent. i said, you're a london girl, aren't you? and she said, i'm a bethnal green girl, and then i knew. so then we talked — there was no one else, just her and i. and i said, can you lift your niqab so i can see your face? and she said, yes, i'm shamima begum. she was just 15 when she made the journey to the battlefields of syria, seen here en route in turkey with two teenage school friends who made the same journey. she married an islamic state fighter. she says she has no regrets, and says at least, initially, life in syria met all her aspirations. at her former school, questions have been asked about whether more could have been done to intervene to stop the teenager going. the government now says it won't provide diplomatic help to get shamima begum out of syria, and, if she makes it back
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on her own, she could face charges. ultimately, what we have to do is protect the public, and people that went out there, often as amateurs, are now professional terrorists, or professional supporters of terrorism, and we have to make sure we mitigate that threat should they come back. others, though, believe shamima begum should be treated as a victim. we're talking about 15—year—old children who were groomed. they were on the internet, they were radicalised. theirfamilies had no idea whatsoever about what was going on. i appreciate she is now 19, but these were individuals who were groomed. with the fall of islamic state in syria imminent, more supporters like shamima begum will likely flee. some will seek to return to the uk. their legal status is not clear. let's get more from our correspondent richard galpin. nine months pregnant, if she comes
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back there will be a baby that is a priority, for social services, while they decide what to do for the mother of the baby. she says she is nine months pregnant, so it is absolutely imminent, the priority is to get somewhere she can give birth to get somewhere she can give birth to the baby the journey back will be a long and difficult one. she will have to make her way back to turkey or iraq and then get back to britain. it will be a difficult journey for her. everything depends upon whether the police and authorities decide whether she has done something illegal. that is the key thing, she has the right to come back to britain, but then when she comes back, for sure the police will start an investigation and they will be looking to see if she has committed any terrorist offences, that could be quite a long process.
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potentially, if she is found guilty of any terrorist offences, she could be sent to jail, then a question of what would happen to her child.‘ when she went, her parents did not know she had been radicalised, is there a sense her age may become an issue with all this? absolutely, 19 yea rs issue with all this? absolutely, 19 years old, if she had been less than 18, then it would not be so difficult but now she can be held responsible, so it is a very difficult, very different situation which she faces as an adult having spent five years in the caliphate. what happens now? we have to wait and see what she does, but hearing from some officials that they will be looking at, the intelligence material, a lot of sources within the caliphate for western intelligence agencies and they will be looking to look and see what a find if there is any record of what she was doing at the time and
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whether there is anything suspicious about the activities she was potentially involved in while she was in the caliphate. if she does come back, presumably there will be a cost to police, because she is going to be a lightning rod for those who are pro—or indeed anti—islamic state. those who are pro—or indeed anti-islamic state. that's right, it will be difficult, and we know there is many people fleeing out of this final pocket of the caliphate, in eastern syria. very large numbers, how many are british, we don't know, clearly there are some. plenty of otherforeign clearly there are some. plenty of other foreign fighters and jihadis brides who have been coming out of the area in recent days. thank you very much. we can go to northern iraq, if there is one good piece of news to come out of this interview with her, it is that the days of the caliphate are is that the days of the caliphate a re clearly is that the days of the caliphate are clearly numbered. yes, they are numbered, the hours are numbered, i think, the fighting very fierce
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indeed around this last patch of territory held by the islamic state group near the territory held by the islamic state group nearthe iraqi territory held by the islamic state group near the iraqi border, just a couple of villages now where a few hundred fighters are holed up, they have dug tunnels, suicide bombers... this is the last desperate ask for the growth before it in implode, and when it does, in the next few hours or days, donald trump is expected to declare victory, he will say 100% of the self—declared caliphate of the islamic state group has been recaptured. —— last desperate grasp for the group. but that does not mean the end for iis, there are some 18,000 fighters and sympathisers in syria and iraq. —— is. 18,000 fighters and sympathisers in syria and iraq. -- is. the issue is, where will they go? i was speaking to sources who have said if they have not ended, they have not disappeared, they have simply dispersed, and that is harder to deal with. sleeper cells in iraq,
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low—level insurgency, guerrilla attacks that are pretty regular, allegations from the kurdish authorities that isp writers have integrated within the security structures of the iraqi military and malicious and army as well and they are committing attacks, often at night, with weapons and uniforms provided to them as part of a militia or security services. —— is sources. in syria, donald trump is preparing withdrawal, so with us troops out in syria, and frankly political commitments to iraq waning in washington and london and elsewhere, it is up to the iraqi forces to deal with there pockets of is that still remain, and it does not seem they have the capacity to do that. relief on one hand, incredible nervousness on the other. yes, fear here, i was at a camp for internally displaced people a couple
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of days ago from mosul and they say they do not feel secure enough to return, even though it was liberated from is over one year ago because of sleeper cells and because mosul was destroyed. when you have poverty and destruction of war, that is breeding ground for radicalisation. the fear is that new sleeper cells could develop into is mark two, in the months and years to come. is there a sense among diplomats, others you speak to, that donald trump, he says what you think he is going to say, whether he is jumping the what you think he is going to say, whether he isjumping the gun. absolutely, there is a feeling among that from diplomats, from other sources. i am usually based in turkey, in turkey they are delighted, they feel that with us troops out of syria, then, turkish troops out of syria, then, turkish troops can launch an incursion against kurdish fighters who they see as terrorists. bear in mind, they are the same fighters the us has depended upon to fight and destroy the islamic state caliphate,
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turkey is looking forward to the us withdrawal, they want to launch a military incursion, other western diplomats very much a feeling that donald trump has jumped the diplomats very much a feeling that donald trump hasjumped the gun on this and the withdrawal is premature. pentagon report saying that within six to 12 months there could be a resurgence of is if there isa could be a resurgence of is if there is a lack of commitment to fighting the group. thank you forjoining us. here in westminster, theresa may is facing the threat of another rebellion by her own backbenchers today as she tries to maintain support for her brexit plan. mps have started debating the next steps in the process ahead of a vote in the house of commons later this afternoon. our political correspondent jonathan blake reports. it should have been just another day at westminster, but, instead, there is trouble in the air again.
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the prime minister is facing another revolt from her own mps. the house of commons has another chance to debate and vote to back or block theresa may's attempts to get changes to her brexit deal. this parliament's mandate must now be given the opportunity to achieve its end, and the prime minister the chance to do so. so, it is clear that the government's priority is to address the indefinite nature of the backstop, which, under article 50, is legally required to be temporary. but the devil is in the detail, and the wording of the motion the government has put forward for mps to vote on. it states that the house of commons welcomes the prime minister's statement earlier this week, and reiterates its support for the approach to leaving the eu expressed by the house on the 29th of january. it might sound simple enough, but, in that series of votes at the end of last month, the majority of mps voted to reject a no—deal brexit, so some conservatives who want bad option to remain on the table say they can't support the government tonight. those mps working to stop a no—deal brexit say their colleagues threatening to rebel need to acknowledge they are outnumbered. downing street is desperate on this now. it would have been much better if they had consulted the 100
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or so mps which represent the majority of their backbenchers, before tabling this motion. i think the lack of consultation has not improved the atmosphere of trust. the government cannot pick and choose which votes it wants to support, it is fundamentally wrong and anti—democratic and it is the wrong way to have such an important issue handled as "brexit", does he not see that? and from labour, the now familiar claim that the government is playing for time. now familiar claim that the government is playing for timem is obvious what the prime minister is obvious what the prime minister is up to, pretending to make
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progress while running down the clock. a non—update every other week to buy another two weeks of process. if the government loses tonight's vote, it won't stop the brexit process in its tracks. but downing street say defeat will significantly damage theresa may's chances of getting changes to her brexit deal at a time when progress is already slow. jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. a few days ago we were deciding whether we would be here now, we said it was 50/50 but it is turning very interesting. the government tried to deflate expectations by putting up a notion that looks both ways, it may well be voted down, because it annoys people on both sides of the arguments, which will be embarrassing, does not change anything fundamentally, still back
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to the basic issues in two weeks' time, but probably more significant than we had thought of 2a hours ago. downing street suggests that the significance of a defeat will be that it weakens the hand in renegotiations. her hand is all already very weak, the people in brussels know that the no deal she keeps threatening is not credible. they know perfectly well she is not going to deliberately crash the british economy which is what no deal means. they are not going to be blackmailed and we see no evidence ofa blackmailed and we see no evidence of a change in position. it is perfectly reasonable that we have reached a treaty agreement with them three months ago, why would we? three amendments, what if one goes through. interesting one from chuck and, and anna soubry, trying to bring to light some of the hidden information about what a no deal scenario would be, that may well carry, and, the labour party will
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rehearse its policy, which will be soundly defeated. —— chuka umunna. we have attached to it a little reminder tojeremy corbyn we have attached to it a little reminder to jeremy corbyn about we have attached to it a little reminder tojeremy corbyn about what his party policy is, which he keeps forgetting, the need for a people's vote. talk of this breakaway within labour, isn't there? it is fairly open, the numbers are subject to a great deal of speculation, certainly i have told lots of people in the labour party and in the tory party who are totally disappointed with where their parties are. they feel they are better staying in their party and doing what they can, within months we will see interesting developments. any sympathy for theresa may, as a leader of a party yourself, she is trying to please two very different wings of her party, that is the difficulty she faces, then we have the conversation with ollie robins overheard the other night,
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alienating one half. she is trying to be all things to all men and it is impossible. i have sympathy, she has a very difficult hand, but i think she has made this choice, which is confirmed two weeks ago, to put the unity of her party behind trying to get a position on this and thatis trying to get a position on this and that is very regrettable and very damaging for the country. my understanding and sympathy is limited. very quickly, how would you describe the atmosphere? peculiar message, we know there is a storm coming, today is a minor squall, but it could whip up a certain amount of damp. always good to see you. thank you forjoining us. talking about the labour party, more on that, chief political correspondence, vicky young, is in central lobby. feels like today is a warm up for what could happen on the 27th of february, that is when most people
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think that it could be the time for mps to move to seize control of the brexit process. we will have to wait and see. we hear a lot about the splits in the conservative party over brexit, labour has many problems of its own, increasing speculation here, about labour mps willing to leave their party, not necessarily to set up a new one but sit us independent. centred around various different things, for some it is about the anti—semitism in the party, they don't feeljeremy corbyn is doing enough to get rid of that. for others it is about the general directionjeremy corbyn is taking the labour party. this is what ian austin had to say. lots of rumours, in the end, the labour party has, this is a different party, different leadership, different values, different policy, does not stand up
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for traditional mainstream british values as we saw today with john mcdonald's terrible intervention. when you see mps like luciana berger, being bullied and attacked and people who go on david icke's shows with strange and weird conspiracies, i think the labour party is in... is in a very serious situation and people in leadership need to think very carefully about the direction it is going. a reminder that labour policy, thrashed out at the conference among all those divisions, was to try and false a general election which clearly is very difficult to do and has not happened, to try to get a compromise, try to persuade theresa may that the way through is to get a brexit deal which involves a customs union, that has not happened either. then the policy to pursue another referendum. it is that bit which is
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causing so much anxiety and upset within the party, because there are many who feel that jeremy within the party, because there are many who feel thatjeremy corbyn personally does not want to do that, does not want to seem to be blocking brexit but the problem is, a huge number of the labour party membership were on the remain side of the argument, so he has to try to reflect that. this is what one frontbencher, who previously resigned over the issue of europe, said about it today. my fear is that what we are now doing is helping to facilitate a tory brexit, the ramifications for the party, i think, will be severe. just like the liberal democrats, when theresa may has bulked off somewhere, to put up her trotters, after she has delivered her brexit and a new leader comes in, he will say, she was a disaster for the country, betrayed this country, but so too did the leader of the opposition. —— bogged off. he was part of this sorry debacle and i am now going to move forward to try to resolve the situation in the best way i can... i
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tell you what, the tory right—wing mainstream media will get behind that narrative, and it is the labour party, who will pick up a lot of the fla k party, who will pick up a lot of the flak for what happened. labour mp in the debate right now that he found it personally heartbreaking that labour was not opposing brexit completely. now, coming all this down, deputy leader of the parti tom watson has been appealing to his mps to stay loyal. —— deputy leader of the party. a number of your colleagues seem to be on the brink of breaking away from the party. i hope they are not, i have read the media reports like everyone else. i want this party to stay together and i said before at conference, people should stay and fight their corner, we need an electorally viable labour party.
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a feeling among your colleagues is that the breakaway is unstoppable. i hope it isn't, i hope people will do everything they can to try to stop it from happening. will you be trying to stop it? yes, for the last two years, i was trying to hold everyone together, we need all voices around the top table of the labour party, all traditions represented. people expect the labour party to be united. we have got to change britain for the good. you sound worried, how damaging would this be? i am worried about it, i don't know who is going to go. inaudible i am worried enough to raise it with the party chair, the chair of the party, responsible for the general election. it is down to him to hold us together because it is going to harm us, electorally. tom watson, deputy leader, speaking to my colleague, john pienaar. we will have a number of proposals later today, then a final vote, and thatis later today, then a final vote, and that is what could be a problem for
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ministers, there is a group of conservative pro—"brexit" mps threatening not to back the government this morning and we will find out more from them in the next couple of hours. we will indeed, thank you very much. the vote is scheduled around 5pm and results after 7pm. let's return now to our main story. that a british woman who ran away to join fighters from the islamic state group in syria four years ago, and now wants to return to britain. we can talk now to elizabeth pearson, from the defence think tank the royal united services institute. what will authorities hear be trying to work out about what she has been doing? we don't yet know what will happen to her, whether she will be returning here. but, she might be a high—profile case, as indeed everybody remembers the image of the bethnal green girls but about many,
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of return is coming back. when they come back it is a multi—agency approach, police investigation looking for possible criminal prosecution, mental health services tend to be involved, social services... array of different services... array of different services who are used to look at different risks and work out what to do with people who come back. a lot of people might wonder why there is a question that she has done anything wrong, given that she went to syria and joined daesh. membership is a criminal offence, travelling to join them is a criminal offence, some people think she should not be coming back and others think that she is a victim of daesh in the first place, she was 15 yea rs old daesh in the first place, she was 15 years old when she travelled there. she has been there four years, still only 19. in all the cases, and they are all different, we must think about responsibilities and agency,
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how much they knew what they were getting into when they went over there. in cases we have had across europe people coming back, they have been keen to distance themselves from daesh ideology. she is expressing no remorse at all. quite unusual in that, and a lot of people have said, stories of people saying, we thought daesh was a humanitarian organisation, we thought we would be helping syrians, we didn't know about the other things, there has been a degree of cynicism. she is not saying that: interestingly, what she sees as the end for her was the oppression, disillusionment with what daesh was doing, and the fact she thinks it is now over. we are in a situation of some chaos. there is still violence being carried out by daesh but she sees it as the end and cited protection of her infant is a reason why she wants to come back. one aspect people are looking at and talking about, because her age, 15, but she is also female, that changes
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this, doesn't it. i don't know if it changes the things we should be asking, in every case, male or female, we need to think about how the gender, the sex of that person, influenced and shaped what they did, but we do know daesh had a specific recruitment strategy back in 2015, online recruitment absolutely targeted young women, just like her, women looking for adventure, a sense of islamic belonging, a place where they could wear the niqab and burka, freely, and this promise of people to marry. we know that is, daesh, was absolutely active and using techniques on the internet that we have seen and are familiar from child sexual exploitation and grooming. it is notjust young women who were vulnerable to this, young men also, so all of these things have to be considered. a lot of complexity and nuance around the situation, even though she has been there for four years and we think we
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know that. there will be a concern when she comes back that her face is everywhere, that she will become a lightning rod, not just everywhere, that she will become a lightning rod, notjust for those who support islamic state, or those ideals, but those who don't. there will be a cost in protecting her. those consideration should not be a factor in bringing her back, there isa factor in bringing her back, there is a consideration of responsibility toa uk is a consideration of responsibility to a uk citizen even one that four yea rs to a uk citizen even one that four years ago wanted to announce that, those things are to be dealt with as practicalities where she were to return, and that should not be a factor. what about the fact she will have a newborn baby may be weeks, months, we don't know. there are safeguarding issues, that is one of the themes in terms of looking at cases of women who have come back with children, the safety of the child, the future of the child, where the child is best placed. we
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should not lose faith in the idea of the radicalisation programmes, from the radicalisation programmes, from the very little we have seen overnight, and from the times report, it does not seem that she is at all repentant. but there are programmes in place, in order to engage with people who are ideal logically radicalised to daesh, and to the idea of sharia and there is the possibility of those kinds of interventions when people return. briefly, finally, when you read that interview for the first time, when you have read it what was your impression, on a human level? listening to her voice, quite young sounding london voice, it is shocking. i have seen a lot of shocking. i have seen a lot of shocking material but it is still shocking material but it is still shocking every time i think. it is not normal for us but unfortunately, this has become, this is normalfor a conflict zone, this is normalfor daesh. and we have to try and take
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the emotion out of these situations, and try to consider these cases in a rational and a lawful manner, and proceed in that way, however emotive this whole subject and however barbaric and brutal the activities taking place in iraq and syria under daesh r. —— under daesh are. parks for killing a one hundred—year—old nazi prison camp survivor prince philip will not face prosecution over his collision with another car in norfolk last month. the crown prosecution services says it isn't in the public
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interest after the 97 year old surrendered his license. the duke of edinburgh's land rover freelander collided with another car carrying two women and a baby. he later apologised to the occupants. despite the cold and frosty start the day turned into a very pleasant start for many. this is how the morning started and then that sunshine getting stronger through much of the cloud. we had a bit hang around for scotland and northern ireland but it will be fine evening and a finite but again means that despite the brazen will see the falkirk town in especially central and eastern parts of the uk. not a ha rd and eastern parts of the uk. not a hard frost, temperatures down to freezing, but two or three degrees below in rural parts. in the north and west we have the wind increasing bringing cloud through the second pa rt bringing cloud through the second part of friday. the rain will hold of apart from the western isles. temperatures will be well above
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where they should be for this time of year. it stays mild and mostly dry. very promising for this weekend. this is bbc news. our latest headlines: a british schoolgirl who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home, but she could face prosecution. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 200a. a mugger who killed a 100—year—old widow in a handbag robbery has been jailed for 15 years. reducing the risk of heart attacks and strokes.
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the nhs is launching a new scheme to get more people to have their blood pressure and cholesterol levels checked. sport now on afternoon live. "a great coach and a great man" is how eric cantona has described former manchester united youth team coach eric harrison, who's died at the age of 81. he's credited with developing the talents of manchester united's class of ‘92, including david beckham, paul scholes and the neville brothers, as well as leading united to fa youth cup victories in 1992 and 1995. harrison was diagnosed with dementia four years ago. he's also been praised for his ability to "make good human beings" out of young players. he was our second father, he was the one that took us from the age of 1a and delivered us to the first team ready. i think it's probably disrespectful just to talk about the class of ‘92
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because i think his biggest achievement was all those other players that he brought through with equal ability that prepared them for life, not just for manchester united. when you talk about eric harrison, he didn'tjust prepare you really for a life in football which was a big part, he prepared you to succeed in life through the values he instilled into you. there have been so many tributes to harrison already on social media, with gary neville tweeting that he's lost his mentor, saying he and other manchester united players "owe him everything". david beckham posted on instagram, saying that he can still hear harrison yelling, "no more hollywood passes" at him in training and sir alex ferguson has released a statement claiming that "eric's contribution to football, and not just manchester united, was incredible." it's been revealed that manchester united paid jose mourinho and his staff £19.6 million in compensation following his sacking in december. united revealed the figures in their second quarter financial results.
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mourinho was sacked after a run of poor results which left them 11 points off fourth place in the premier league. he had a contract until 2020 with the option of an extra year. west indies fast bowler shannon gabriel says he's deeply sorry for a comment he made to england captainjoe root during the third test in st lucia which led to him being banned for the first four one day internationals. gabriel has admitted asking root if he likes boys. this comes after root was heard on a microphone telling gabriel, "there's nothing wrong with being gay," and not to use it as an insult. gabriel claims he meant it as sporting banter and says he'll learn from it. glasgow warriors centre hquones is likely to miss the rest of scotland's six nations campaign. it follows news that club—team mate stuart hogg is struggling to be involved in the tournament again after damaging shoulder ligaments against ireland. jones suffered knee ligament damage in saturday's loss at murrayfield. both have had scans with scotland hopeful that hogg will play a further part. england have a concern about prop ellis genge.
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he was in the frame to replace mako vunipola, who yesterday was ruled out of the rest of the six nations after an injury against france. forwards coach steve borthwick says his absence will be significant. he is an exceptional player and he has been playing really well. it is also the leadership he gives, the presence he has. he rallies others around him which is incredibly significant. it is a big loss. he's won the tournament four times but 2019 will not be ronnie o'sullivan's year at the welsh open snooker. he's suffered a shock third round exit to the world number 71 alexander ursenbacher. the swiss made three breaks over 50 for one of the biggest wins of his career. world number one mark selby is continuing his title tilt
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against noppon saengkham. he made a century break in the first frame. saenggkham responded with a 147. coverage continues online and on the red button. great britain's maddie hinch has been named the world hockey goalie of the year for the third time in a row. she won the public vote after helping england to bronze at the commonwealth games last year and also featured in every england game at last year's world cup in london. that's all the sport for now. did you book that table four hours later? you didn't get the flowers? no. good! welcome back to westminster. they will shortly be voting, theresa may coping to get her deal through the next hurdle and it is looking doubtful. joining me now is the snp mp stephen gethins. you have an amendment. what are you
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asking for? it would not be valentine's day if we were not the big thing brexit. it wouldn't be a needy. you are right. in terms of the valentine's themed there is not a lot of love for the prime minister's deal. i will amendment does something simple. it says the prime minister cannot get a deal through and what she needs to do is start negotiating an extension period to article 50 of not less than three months, given that that of space. it is so much more important to get to the right decision than to crash out on an arbitrary date and that is something members from other political parties... it is not arbitrary, it has been there for two years, it is not as a prize. yes, but she picked it arbitrary. she didn't have tried to keep our party happy rather than planning. she hasn't planned well
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because here we are 40 days out from leaving the eu and no idea what the government's planners today cut out. your priority would be to avoid no deal? this is about avoiding no deal and that with edge in 43 days. that is something that people from different parts of parliament could agree to and we have had support from other mps. what do you make of the argument which downing street is pushing that if she loses tonight it is non—binding, it matters not as much as other votes in the past, but the damages her position if she is going to have to be negotiated with brussels. nobody is damaging her possession more than herself and her party. there is not a lot of sense coming out of number 10 and when you are talking about people's jobs and medicinal and food shortages parliamentarians need to step up. what they would say if old for the
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deal. now, but we not ready. we are 43 days out. she has had to kick her fairies —— ferries contract into touch. this government is not ready. they have not passed a fraction of the statutory instruments they need to pass. the snp is totally different place from the conservatives. that is not breaking those. what this does is set the final destination. it is responsible amendment to put the breaks on. we not ready. this will damage people and we know that by the government's own analysis. i would like to see a people's fought and for others to remain in the u. this amendment does not stop people backing it. looking
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at the tournament where the labour party stands, the shadow brexit secretary getting a tough time from your party. so he should, labour have been part of the problem. labour talking about jobs first brexit, there is no such thing. talking about reopening the negotiations but not how. the best deal is the one we have at the moment and the amendment we have... the labour party should be able to back the amendment we have put down because it is a responsible amendment given that time is running out but let's see if labour are still the responsible opposition they claim to be. if you were a betting man you think theresa may is on course for getting her deal through? no. i do not think she is. we need to go back to the drawing board. two and a half years ago the scottish government set out our compromise and that was if you leave the eu you stay in the single market
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and customs union. we said that out but the better option obviously is to have the people's vote and hopefully remain in the eu.|j to have the people's vote and hopefully remain in the eu. i know you would say that but that is looking really unlikely. the people's vote for whatever reason seems to have fallen away.|j people's vote for whatever reason seems to have fallen away. i do not think that is the case. we are still ina think that is the case. we are still in a situation where we do not know what is going to happen on the 29th of march which is why we have the amendment to get extra time. you are running out of time. remember when we were told by government officials the deal would have to be done by john on october last year because he did not have enough time for ratification to get the statutory instruments and now we are almost into march. if that means that the nhs will be damaged, which we know from the government's own and analysis, and jobs will be hit
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because manufacturers are taking jobs out of the uk, that hits our constituents and we have a responsibility to stop that damage. the other argument is that this is how the youth plays things, they leave things to the last minute, and here we are. the eu is not the problem. even if you take the prime minister's deal and the backstop, she's lined up to the backstop, we didn't like the deal but that was something she agreed to. it is the prime minister who wants to rewrite her own deal when the eu was bending over backwards for her. the eu is not the problem. the 27 independent sovereign member states have got one possession. it is the government over there who do not have a solid possession. do you think she will get it through tonight? tonight is just a motion and they have been ignoring motions so there is a question about democracy. we will
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have more from westminster later. it's been a year since a gunman opened fire at a high school in parkland, florida, killing 17 people, injuring another 17. people in the community are still living with physical and emotional reminders of what happened. this particular shooting sparked passionate cries for stricter gun controls in america. but to date, there has not been any meaningful change. the bbc s samira hussain reports from parkland, florida. good morning, have a great day, guys. a typical morning walk to school done by thousands across the country. but this is different. these kids go to marjory stoneman douglas, a name that will forever conjure images from this day. students fleeing for safety as a gunman armed with a semiautomatic rifle opened fire. this is the first one. anthony was shot five times. using his own body as a shield, he prevented the gunman from entering the classroom. he saved up to 20 kids, but, to this day, when he tries to sleep, he is taken right back
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to the shooting. i never sleep. sometimes i sleep but i can't sleep well. i dream a lot of that day. the same things that i see there, i see in my head. this is the building where the shooting happened. it can't be torn down. it's actually been preserved as evidence for the gunman's trial, a trial that has not even started yet. and so it stands like a constant concrete reminder of what happened that day. i love you with all my heart. i am telling you right now, i love you. i know what you did today. that is the accused gunman, nikolas cruz, in a green hospital gown, being comforted by his younger brother zachary. this police video was taken just hours after the shooting. you told him you loved him more than once. only because i'm his brother and, you know, the whole world
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is going to give him hate. why do i have to give him hate? are you angry at him? yes. what makes you angry? that he did what he did. he had no reason. i don't know. the shooting sparked a movement. they channelled their anger through activism, taking to the streets of washington, dc, by the thousands, demanding stricter gun control laws. for those students, this song became their anthem. # we can hug a little tighter...# i think through the actions that we have seen with our classmates, they have such a big audience and wide audience that not only were they heard, they inspired other people to get up and be heard, as well. i can't change what happened in the past. ijust need to make sure it doesn't happen again in the future. # you, you threw my city away.# but, one year on,
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victims of this mass shooting are still recovering and, one year on, federal gun—control laws have not changed. # we will shine.# samira hussain, parkland, florida. jamie will have all the latest business news shortly. first a look at the headlines on afternoon live. a british schoolgirl who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home but she could face prosecution. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 2004. here's your business headlines on afternoon live. the european aircraft
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manufacturer airbus pulls the plug on its superjumbo. the last deliveries of the world's largest passenger aircraft, the a380, which costjust under £20 billion to develop, will be made in 2021. more on that shortly. patisserie valerie's parent firm is bought out of administration for £13 million after an alleged fraud tipped it to collapse last month. the new owners, causeway capital, who will also include members of the management team, have said they hope to keep all 96 patisserie valerie sites open. supermarket giant morrisons is facing legal action by women who work in its stores and warehouses. the women, both current and former employees, say they are not paid the same as male workers who are doing comparable jobs. rival asda recently lost the latest round of a long—running legal battle with its staff over equal pay. european aircraft manufacturer airbus has decided to bring
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production of the a380 superjumbo, after only 12 years, to an end in 2021. it's the world's largest passenger aircraft, it cost about £20 billion to produce. despite a lot of initial excitement, it has never really sold as many as the company thought it would. it's faced fierce competition from smaller, more efficient aircraft and has never made a profit. let's talk to sally gethin, an aviation journalist. what went wrong? the seeds of destruction, perhaps too strong a word, but the seeds of its demise, we re word, but the seeds of its demise, were there from the beginning because it was a great idea at the time before we had the influx of low—cost carriers and the market was dominated at that time, passenger travel was dominated by the big flag carriers like british airways who had the means to invest in it at
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that time. but the market changed. we had the number of downturns, the credit crunch, and people could afford to travel more, there were more low—cost carriers. so in a way it never took to the air to the highest altitude so to speak as you mentioned. boeing got it right. i was thinking how difficult it is to be able to look 2030 years ahead and think this is the way the market is going to develop but boeing got it right with the dreamliner. yes. they had the experience of its own large aircraft, the 747, and it had that they are as if you like a continual workhorse so in a way that gave at the margin, the working margins, to develop the 787 and learning from what was happening with the a380. the key to the 787 and the a350 is
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they are both more fuel efficient, more economical, reduce the number of passengers, leaner, meaner aircraft, that is where the market and demand is now for high—density routes but more point—to—point traffic. how much of a disaster is this for a bus or is it not a disaster? they said to date is a painful decision. it was almost like an emotional attachment i thought that remark. they get attached as well as the massive commercial investment. it is a blow to their brand if you like. it must be tough to concede defeat but i think it is important for them to move on quite quickly. if they had tried this out and hope for more orders it would have just brought them drown even further. it was time to lay this big beast to rest as it were. thank you. the markets all looking fairly
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positive. bae makes the wings for the airbus. not too much worry there. micro focus both out hewlett—packard enterprises software division about two years ago was having a hard time trying to make that work but even though figures are not that good it does say things are getting better and that is why this years are going nicely there. very nicely in fact. you are missing my helpful analysis! i know. i felt you are missing my helpful analysis! i know. ifelt the you are missing my helpful analysis! i know. i felt the lack of it. waiting times in a&e departments in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 2004. our health reporterjohn owen gave me more details. i'm afraid that this is not good news at all for a&e
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wait times in england. figures released this morning. the proportion of patients treated or assessed in a&e injanuary within the four—hour benchmark was the lowest since that target was introduced back in 2004. hospitals are meant to either treat and discharge or admit 95% of patients within that four—hour window so they are falling some way short of that. in january just 84.4% of patients were seen within that four—hour benchmark and that is down from 85.3% in january last year. and down from the previous lowest on record which was in march 2018. that means that something like 330,000 patients were waiting longer than they should have been before being treated or admitted into hospital and i am afraid that some are saying today
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that the battle to keep on top of these a&e lead times to keep within that four—hour window is indeed being lost. a serious impact on the hundreds of thousands of patients affected but also no nurse or doctor wants to see people in corridors. it must have a demoralising effect on them as well. absolutely it does and it shows that there is still really intense pressure on the system. we have not seen the same level of intensity in the headlines around the winter crisis this year as we saw last year but these figures really do point to serious strains on the system. this is despite the fact that we have had relatively low levels of flu this year and norovirus and despite that and despite relatively clammy weatherjanuary has still been a really tough month in the nhs. nasa has declared that the "opportunity" rover it sent to mars has officially ended its mission, after nearly 15 years on the red planet. the robotic vehicle transformed our understanding of mars, by confirming that water
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once flowed there. andy beatt has more. designed to lastjust 90 days, opportunity landed on mars in 2004 and instead decided it would stay a while, spending the next decade and a half roving the eerie martian landscape, reliably sending postcards back home, including proof that water, the necessary building block for life, did indeed flow at one point in martian history. but then a summer dust storm covered the rover‘s solar panels. on the 10th ofjune it sent back this image, before falling silent. now, after sending thousands of unreturned messages over the past eight months, scientists have come to the inevitable conclusion that opportunity is no more. it is therefore that i am standing here with a sense of deep appreciation and gratitude that i declare the opportunity mission is complete, and with it, the mars rover mission is completed.
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but mars exploration is not over yet. a new robot will be launched in 2020 and curiosity, which landed in 2012, is still covering ground. like many on social media, it offered its own eltonjohn tribute to its fallen forerunner, saying that your candle burned out long before your science ever will, but the death of the rover some have nicknamed oppy marks the end of the longest serving space robot, which gave us the first glimpses of hope of the possibility of life elsewhere. now it's time for a look at the weather with helen willets. another warm day for many of us after a dry start and for some places it was foggy which caused some problems on the roads and again it will be an issue
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through the coming night. because we have winds from the south and south—west we are picking up moisture but it is pulling in warmer air so temperatures are peaking higher than they would normally at this time of year. plenty of sunshine except for the north west where we have the remnants of very weak weather fronts. it is bright and dry with just the odd splatter of drizzle. this evening and overnight the skies are clear in the north so it is going to be cold. there will not be a hard frost but in the suburbs there could be temperatures a couple of degrees down from those in the north—west because in the north—west the wind is increasing. high pressure is still the dominant feature of the weather keeping weather fronts at bay but the south—westerly breeze will keep the fog at bay. still the potential for the disruption to transport as we head through tonight and friday morning. otherwise friday looks like a fairly decent day for most of us. the fog clears in the south,
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the frost lifts and we will see a good deal of sunshine lingering into the afternoon. temperatures will be getting into the mid—teens so we could see 15 or 16 through the day on friday with wispy cloud around the coasts of england and wales. increasing amounts of cloud for scotland and northern ireland. probably gales in the north—west and rain for the western isles. relatively mild. this time of year you still have the long night so temperatures will be dropping tomorrow night pretty sharply. going into the weekend on a chilly note in the morning but for most of us the days will feel quite mild if you are out and about and will stay dry so good weather for heading out for a walk perhaps. more cloud on saturday but for northern ireland and the west of scotland, most of the rain hangs fire until late in the day.
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for most of us it is dry and mild. ever so slowly that high pressure really loses its grip and low pressure comes in. 0h hello, you're watching afternoon live — i'm simon mccoy. today at 4... a british woman who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home but she could face prosecution. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england reach their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 2004. coming up on afternoon live all the sport with will... some special tributes for eric
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harrison, the man responsible for the class of 92 at manchester united, who has died at the age of 21. -- 61. and united, who has died at the age of 21. —— 61. and there is news of a 147 at the welsh open snooker. and with the valentine's day news weather, helen willetts. it's been the warmest for 21 years. we have just got to 16 at aberystwyth. will it last? well, iwill fill you in just got to 16 at aberystwyth. will it last? well, i will fill you in on about half an hour. the queen meets competition winners and descendants of the original codebreakers of gchq, which is celebrating its hundredth birthday. good afternoon and welcome to afternoon live, from westminster. a teenage woman who ran away to join fighters from the islamic state group in syria four years ago,
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and now wants to return to britain, will face a police investigation if she comes back, according to a government minister. shamima begum, who's now 19, was one of three schoolgirls who left east london in 2015. in an interview with the times, she talked about seeing "severed heads" in bins while there — and said that it "did not faze her". the security minister ben wallace told the bbc that shamima begum, who's now in a syrian refugee camp, faces potential prosecution for committing terrorist offences. here's our correspondent jon donnison. "bring me home." four years after running away to join the islamic state group and become a teenagejihadi bride, shamima begum wants to come back to britain. she's one of hundreds of women and children to flee is's last tiny bolthole in baghuz, in eastern syria. and this sprawling refugee camp in the north of the country is now home to the former east london schoolgirl, 19 years old, nine months pregnant,
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having already lost two children to sickness and malnutrition. after several weeks in the camp, and due to give birth any day, she was discovered by anthony loyd, a journalist with the times newspaper. she spoke to me, she was veiled. she spoke to me in a london accent. i said, you're a london girl, aren't you? and she said, i'm a bethnal green girl, and then i knew. so then we talked — there was no—one else, just her and i. and i said, can you lift your niqab so i can see your face? and she said, yes, i'm shamima begum. she was just 15 when she made the journey from bethnal green, in east london, to the battlefields of syria — seen here en route in turkey with two teenage school
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friends who made the same journey. she married an is fighter. she says she has no regrets, and says at least, initially, life in syria met all her aspirations. at her former school, questions have been asked about whether more could have been done to intervene to stop the teenager going. the government now says it won't provide diplomatic help to get shamima begum out of syria, and, if she makes it back on her own, she could face charges. ultimately, what we have to do is protect the public, and people that went out there, often as amateurs, are now
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professional terrorists, or professional supporters of terrorism, and we have to make sure we mitigate that threat should they come back. others, though, believe shamima begum should be treated as a victim. we're talking about 15—year—old children who were groomed. they were on the internet, they were radicalised. theirfamilies had no idea whatsoever about what was going on. i appreciate she is now 19, but these were individuals who were groomed. with the fall of islamic state in syria imminent, more supporters like shamima begum will likely flee. some will seek to return to the uk. their legal status is not clear. jon donnison, bbc news. let's get more from our correspondent richard galpin a lot is going to focus on what it is she has done while she has been in syria? that is absolutely the question. certainly what we have
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been hearing from some officials is that they expect the police to start trawling any intelligence and the security service as well. intelligence which might guide them ina intelligence which might guide them in a particular direction. has she done something which would break britain's terrorism laws? the question is, whether, even if you managed to do that, whether you are able to get the kind of evidence that would be admissible in court if there were to be any case brought against her. i think the thinking is that it against her. i think the thinking is thatitis against her. i think the thinking is that it is very difficult to get that it is very difficult to get that evidence and be able to use it. the thing is, richard, the moment it would appear there is very little remorse, she would probable tell them? that is one of the very striking things in this interview. she says very clearly that she has no regrets and it was as she expected, and that she had not been phased by the sight of several heads ina bin, phased by the sight of several heads in a bin, men who had been enemy fighters, as they would say yet, who
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had been murdered. so, no remorse from that point of view. what she has been stressing is her desire to come back to this country, particularly now that she is about to have another child, having lost to have another child, having lost to makkah children that both died while in the caliphate. —— having lost to makkah children. what rocker she was 15 when she left the united kingdom. there are those that are pointing out that she was the victim of grooming? yes, the counter argument that she is now 19, an adult, some saying she is clearly a jihadi bride and has been radicalised. it needs to be worked out by the police, if she would oppose any kind of risk or not.“ she does come back and the investigation finds she is guilty of some crimes, what sort of sanctions would she face? potentially if she we re would she face? potentially if she were to be found guilty of being a
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member of the islamic state group, there are long prison sentences. i think it is around ten years. absolutely, there are very heavy penalties if she were to be found guilty of any of these offences. thank you very much. here at westminster — theresa may is facing the threat of another rebellion by her own backbenchers today as she tries to maintain support for her brexit plan. mps have started debating the next steps in the process ahead of a vote in the house of commons later this afternoon. our political correspondent jonathan blake reports it should have been just another day at westminster, but, instead, there is trouble in the air again. the prime minister is facing another revolt from her own mps. the house of commons has another chance to debate and vote to back or block theresa may's attempts to get changes to her brexit deal. this parliament's mandate must now be given the opportunity to achieve its end, and the prime minister the chance to do so. so, it is clear that the
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government's priority is to address the indefinite nature of the backstop, which, under article 50, is legally required to be temporary. but the devil is in the detail, and the wording of the motion the government has put forward for mps to vote on. it states that the house of commons welcomes the prime minister's statement earlier this week, and reiterates its support for the approach to leaving the eu expressed by the house on the 29th of january. it might sound simple enough, but, in that series of votes at the end of last month, the majority of mps voted to reject a no—deal brexit, so some conservatives who want bad option to remain on the table say they can't support the government tonight. those mps working to stop a no—deal brexit say their colleagues threatening to rebel need to acknowledge they are outnumbered. downing street is desperate on this now. it would have been much better if they consulted the 100 or so mps
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that represent the majority of their backbenchers before tabling a motion. the lack of consultation has not improved trust. simek i think those that are going to vote against this to face up to the fact that twice now the majority in parliament has made clear that most of us do not want to deal with out a deal. the government back says this is not the time for a party squabble. the government back says this is not the time for a party squabblem the government back says this is not the time for a party squabble. it is time for the house of commons to show they are behind the prime minister in her bid to renegotiate the irish backstop. if those that are watching believe that we have a united parliament that would deliver an agreement, with the european union, if those changes were made, then they are more likely to happen. if the government loses the vote, it will not stop the process in its tracks. but downing street say defeat will significantly damage theresa may's chances of getting changes to her brexit deal at a time when progress is already slow.
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jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. that debate has been going on for quite some time. let's go into the chamber and hear what the tone is like. our money and our prospects across the world. many members of this house reject that view, reject that view to this day. that is what people wanted to do and they are not wrong to have done that. they are not wrong because, in recent decades, europe has been in relative decline. it was a third of global gdpafew decline. it was a third of global gdp a few decades ago, and today it is just 15%. future world gdp a few decades ago, and today it isjust15%. future world growth, 90% of future world growth is coming from outside the european union. not from outside the european union. not from inside. iwill give from outside the european union. not from inside. i will give way to the honourable gentleman. from inside. i will give way to the honourable gentlemanlj from inside. i will give way to the honourable gentleman. ijust want from inside. i will give way to the honourable gentleman. i just want to call him up, he just said relative
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decline, this is not in decline. other places in the world are coming up, and it is great to see that other places are becoming richer. europe is not in decline. he raises an interesting point. the fact of the matter is that europe is becoming relatively less important in the world and the rest of the world is becoming relatively more important. it is our national destiny best served by more europe or more of the world and more globalisation? i will not take any lectures from a member of parliament he represents a party that wants to tear away scotland from the biggest market that they have, which i think is crass, irresponsible and reckless. that is charlie elphicke, the mp for dover, giving his view. let's go not far from where he stands, out in the lobby of the houses of parliament, because that is where our chief political correspondent vicky young joins me
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from. it is a strange atmosphere, everybody is talking about what happens at the end of february, rather than today. it is quite tricky to assess how important it will be if one of the amendments goes through, or if the government is defeated. we are still waiting for that group of conservative pro—brexit mps to decide if they are going to abstain. we think they will. that could make it slightly difficult for the government. we are joined by former cabinet minister nicky morgan. we are in this strange situation, the government seems to have got itself into a tangle. both sides of the debate are pretty unhappy with what the government is doing, how has that happened?” unhappy with what the government is doing, how has that happened? i have a feeling that it was not discussed with any of the mp5 that feel so strongly about this issue. today does feel slightly strange. the main action will happen at the end of february. so today is an opportunity to discuss brexit, which is right
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because it is a big issue, but i don't think any of the amendments are critical and will change the way the government is approaching discussions. there is a wholly unnecessary row with the government motion, which could have been drafted in such a neutral way that she would have had all of her mps behind her. anna soubry is trying to get the cabinet briefing documents published, which would assess the impact on business of no—deal. is that something you would be minded to vote for? i will not be voting for it today. there is a balance to be struck between parliament having as much information as possible, thatis as much information as possible, that is what we have been trying to do, but also the government matter of being able to prepare in a way that does not put everything out there. hopefully, the no—deal preparations are not going to be needed, because we are going to put a deal in place. it might be too early to ask at the moment. you have been working on these alternative arrangements. have you had any suggestion from the government or their talks with brussels that did something brussels would be willing to consider? steve barclay did raise
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it with michel barnier on monday and the proposals are absolutely workable. there are some differences of views and some details that need to be still worked on, and that is what steve barclay was saying, that civil servants will be asked to do today. if everybody wants to get to the point where there is no hard water on the island of ireland, and the eu wants to see the withdrawal agreement being approved by parliament, then i think they will be open, hopefully, to discussing and hearing more about the plans. in and hearing more about the plans. in a way, that is why today is not really the big issue. the big update will come on the 27th. it might not even come then, some are talking about the end of march. not ideal for businesses? businesses are screaming out for far more certainty. i think the 22nd of february will be important, because it may be the day that many mps will have to make it clear that there
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will not be a no—deal situation at the end of march. some of my colleagues say for negotiations that actually we need to keep that option on the table. it businesses also need certainty. i think it is really important we think about them and therefore people'sjob security important we think about them and therefore people's job security at therefore people's job security at the same time. nicky morgan, thank you. there votes are due to start at five o'clock, possibly three, may be four votes to follow. and thank you, vicki young in the houses of parliament. with 43 days to go until march 29th — there's been mounting concern amongst businesses at the prospect of leaving the eu without a deal. the future of uk fishing has been at the heart of the brexit debate — and ben thompson has been at a busy fish market in aberdeenshire — to see how they are preparing. welcome to peterhead fish market just north of aberdeen, and all the stuff that is down here will get sold this morning. these boxes of haddock down here go for about £120 this morning, caughtjust in the waters here.
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so what could brexit mean for the fishermen and the communities that rely on fishing here in scotland? well, with me is elaine from the clyde fishermen's association. good morning. it's so funny, isn't it? you see all of this here, yet most of it destined for europe, and any delays at the border, in the event of a no—deal brexit, could be disastrous for this industry, couldn't it? yes. these stocks are mainly fin fish, but yes, a lot of this goes to the eu. any fresh product, yes, any delays are disastrous, particularly as well for anyone who's fishing shellfish, because about 87% of that goes to the eu. and that's a time—critical market. 66, 68, 68... most uk fishermen voted overwhelmingly to leave the eu, so why? and what could brexit and specifically a no—deal brexit mean for fishermen? jimmy is with me from the scottish fishermen's association. good morning to you, jimmy. explain this. it's a bit of a conundrum, isn't it? because overwhelmingly fishermen around here voted to leave the european union,
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yet you rely on it for most of your sales. talk us through what's here and where it's going. well, we've got a wide array of fish here. we've got monkfish, squid, hake, haddock, cod. the other fish like the monkfish, the squid, more high—value species, our european cousins appear to have the appetite for those. if there is a no—deal brexit, and we talked about delays at the border, this stuff is perishable. it will go off at the border if it's in a queue. what does that mean for your? we've got to have a to keep the free flow that goes in and out of the uk, both ways. but we've also got to realise that there's a lot of politics in this. and we have no say in that. i also say that people are the market. i mean, politicians can posture all they want, but people need to eat, and we've got a good quality product here. so we will find a solution to this market, however we go about it. there's a real challenge for the fishermen here in this
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region about making sure that they have access to the waters that they want to fish in, and not subject to the quotas that determine what they can fish, but nonetheless some real challenges for an industry that is so important in this part of the world, and one that could have serious implications in the event of a no—deal brexit. let's return to our main story. the father of one of three teenagejihadi brides from east london who joined islamic state, has broken down in tears at the news that his daughter may still be alive. hussen abase appealed to the british government to bring home his daughter, amira abase, and herfriend shamima begum. he was speaking to our home affairs correspondent, dominic casciani. the important thing is to let the teenagers into the uk, as teenagers who have done something wrong. but the government need to understand and let them into the uk. give them
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lessons here. what do you think about what they did? do you think they did what they did because they we re they did what they did because they were extremists, they were dangerous, or was it the mistake of a child? 0k, dangerous, or was it the mistake of a child? ok, for that, things they have to do now, because they know why they left the country. we will know it when they get here. once they are questioned here. did you ask your daughter yourself in these text messages why she left?m ask your daughter yourself in these text messages why she left? it was very difficult to communicate. even i don't want to raise this issue. so, what matters for us as a family is that she is alive. we don't want to touch that side. it must be quite an emotional moment for the family today? yes, very emotional. and your message to the police? because if
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they get back, they will want to investigate and possibly take them to court. for going tojoin is. what is your message to the police? not to do that. because i explained to you, they are teenagers, they can be influenced, they are vulnerable in this digital world we live in, with the internet. so many things can happen. so, who do you think influenced them? happen. so, who do you think influenced them ? somebody happen. so, who do you think influenced them? somebody in the community, something happening online? yes, i really cannot tell exactly who influenced, but so many things were involved. the community can be so many... so many things can happen. but as a family what i can say is that we don't make her do something like that. we want them to have a bright future. what i think
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for now, if the government cannot do something, we will be very sad... i'm sorry. but i think that won't happen, i think so, i'm i'm sorry. but i think that won't happen, ithink so, i'm positive. you think the government will step in? yes, i'm positive. your daughter, do you know if she had any children out there? not at all. you don't know that? the information that i have, she is still alive. that must fill your heart with joy? yes. if your daughter turned up in a refuge camp, what would you do?” would not spend one more minute here, if i could fly and see her. when you see her, what would you say to her? that i love her. really...
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i guess that is why you want the government to step in? yes. do you feel that they have a duty to your family, to now help you? excuse me? do you feel the government must help you and your family? yes, yes, of course. no question about it.“ they don't help you, you will never see your daughter again, i guess? yes... i don't know. as i said, tomorrow is another day. you know that some journalists have reported about your own political activity, and about the fact you have taken pa rt and about the fact you have taken part in marches against america, islamist causes, and they have said that you started the process that led to your daughter going to syria. do you regret anything you have personally done? uh...
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ifi if i did something, yes, some things i'm regretting. what things do you regret? i don't know what i regret, a demonstration where i take part, it isa a demonstration where i take part, it is a free country, a democracy, i did it, but it turned out differently, i regret that way. and if people say that what you took pa rt if people say that what you took part in leeds to support for islamic state, what would you say about that? no, nothing to do with that. no impact at all, what has happened to my daughter. i know that feeling. yes. again, what will happen is
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happened. so, i don't barter with myself, you know? iam positive. i mean, hoping to receive something. if amira is ok, if not, very sad, you cannot tell. this life is not concrete. let's speak to henna rai, founder and director of women against radicalisation network in birmingham. i think we have probablyjust seen a very strong advocate for part of the argument against shabbina begum facing any sort of punishment, and thatis facing any sort of punishment, and that is her age. she was only 15 when she went out there? that's right. i remember when that happened, the discussions we had,
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how we spoke about it in a counter extremism perspective, and the vulnerability side as well. it is very important to understand that these were 15—year—old girls who we re these were 15—year—old girls who were effectively groomed online by predators and people who used their vulnerabilities to manipulate them and influence them in taking that godforsaken decision to go to syria. and yet, and you will be aware, there was a lot of anger out there that somebody can go out to syria, join islamic state, and we don't know what she has done with them or for the fighters. and what is subject to an investigation. but she is now wanted to come home. do you think she should face some sort of investigation? absolutely. we have a legal and moral duty towards her. unequivocally i support what ben
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morris said, that they would be consequences. however, in addition to that, what i would also say, we need to understand her mindset. bearing in mind that she was 15 yea rs old bearing in mind that she was 15 years old at the time she took this decision and made the trip to syria, she is now 19, there will be vulnerabilities in place when you look at her body language and the way that she spoke. you can understand quite clearly, particularly with somebody that has been working in this arena, that what she is repeating is what she has been taught. and she has not been given any alternative narratives. she has not been given any other representation of what has happened to her. it is only what she has seen over the last four years. that is where we need to step in and we have that a duty of care towards her where we need to make sure she is aware of the consequences of her actions, at the same time we need to provide that support. there is still a 15—year—old child in her, crying
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out for this support. this is something we cannot ignore. i'm just wondering, because we have seen this before, and i'm thinking of the case of the girl who came back and was jailed for six years for belonging to islamic state. again, this is an age issue, is it? she was 26. in that case, she had come from a background of domestic violence, she ended up falling into a trap. we see similar situations here, vulnerabilities, seeking companionship and an outlet to express themselves. when jihadis start grooming the girls online, they do not talk about the state, they do not talk about the state, they don't talk about islamic duty, that only happens once they are there. they speak to them about how
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beautiful they find them, how they understand them, there is a personal connection, how they love them and they will offer them a lifestyle thatis they will offer them a lifestyle that is going to be akin to almost disneyland, living like a queen, where they will be served on hand and foot. the girls fall for this and foot. the girls fall for this and they feel that these predators are actually genuine in what they are actually genuine in what they are saying, and they end up taking that drastic step. it is no different to the victims of gun based grooming or cse grooming. —— gang based grooming. one issue that came out from her interview with the times, an issue a lot of people are angry about, if you listen to the radio phone in programmes, she has shown no remorse, she is coming back to britain because she wants to make sure her baby is ok? what we have to understand is that she has been through a great deal of trauma. she has lost two children under the age of one. that would have a great
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impact on her. normally when a person is in a conflict zone or war zone, they become desensitised to what is happening around them. i am going to take you back a few years to when the taliban was rife in afghanistan. young boys were interviewed by the bbc, and these we re interviewed by the bbc, and these were boys from the ages of nine until about 12. and they were speaking about how they used to see heads dropping like footballs. one of them turned around and said, well, one day our football broke and well, one day our football broke and we didn't have anything to play with, so we played with a head and usedit with, so we played with a head and used it as a ball. they become desensitised. you become detached to what you are surrounded by, like a defence mechanism. how much responsibility do those youngsters ta ke responsibility do those youngsters take for their actions? a 15—year—old, old enough to work out she is going out to syria, i know you are going to say she has been brainwashed, but at what point does she have to carry some responsibility for her actions? as
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we said, we do not know what she has done while she has been out there. but it could be anything. a person that has been brainwashed and manipulated will never admit to that until much later on. it takes a great deal of counselling, working with them, support and investigation for them to turn around and say, actually, this is what i went through. it's going to be exactly the same with shamima. with regards to the consequences, by no means am i saying that there should not be any consequences to her actions, and she should be aware of this, this is where our standing as legal and moral duty, she has the right to be tried fairly and justly according to the laws of the country, and it is unfairfor us to the laws of the country, and it is unfair for us to expect syria, iraq or the kurds to turn around and do this, they are under enough pressure. we have a legal moral duty
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towards shamima begum, and others that may be returning. earlier on i was on bbc radio four with sarah montague, and the head of m16, richard barrett, actually agreed with me on this, that we do have a legal and moral duty and we cannot ignore that. coming up in the next half hour we have sport, nationwide, the headlines but first the weather. and what a lovely day. plenty of sunshine across pope most parts of the uk and there should be a repeat performance tomorrow. at this time of year when the nights are still long it will become foggy. we now have clear skies, they are starting to melt the cloud away, so under those starry skies temperatures will fall quite quickly. it will be
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colder across scotland and northern ireland. most frost here towards dawn. with lighter winds in the south the potential for some fairly thick pockets of fog. for the morning rush, certainly the chance tomorrow, more breeze in the north and west end increasing cloud even patchy rain, but for most it is dry, plenty of sunshine and mild. today was the warmest valentine's day for 21 yea rs. was the warmest valentine's day for 21 years. the weekend looks largely fine and dry, perhaps a little rain in the west on sunday. this is bbc news — our latest headlines: a british schoolgirl who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home — but she could face prosecution. did you ever see executions? i saw beheadings. what was that like? the prime minister faces another
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rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 2004. a mugger who killed a 100—year—old widow in a handbag robbery has been jailed for 15 years. sport now on afternoon live. good afternoon. "a great coach and a great man" is how eric cantona has described former manchester united youth team coach eric harrison, who's died at the age of 81. he's credited with developing the talents of manchester united's class of 92, including david beckham, paul scholes and the neville brothers, as well as leading united to fa youth cup victories in 1992 and 1995. harrison was diagnosed with dementia four years ago,
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he's also been praised for his ability to "make good human beings" out of young players. he was our second father, he was the one that took us from the age of 14 and delivered us to the first team ready. i think it's probably disrespectful just to talk about the class of ‘92 because i think his biggest achievement was all those other players that he brought through with equal ability that prepared them for life, not just for manchester united. when you talk about eric harrison, he didn'tjust prepare you really for a life in football which was a big part, he prepared you to succeed in life through the values he instilled into you. there have been so many tributes to harrison already on social media, with gary neville tweeting, that he's lost his mentor, saying he and other manchetser united players ‘owe him everything'. david beckham posted on instagram, saying that he can still hear harrison yelling, ‘no more hollywood passes' at him in training, and alex ferguson has released a statement claiming
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that ‘eric‘s contribution to football, and not just manchester united, was incredible.‘ it's been revealed that manchester united paid jose mourinho and his staff £19.6m in compensation following his sacking in december. united revealed the figures in their second quarter financial results. mourinho was sacked after a run of poor results which left them 11 points off fourth place in the premier league. he had a contract until 2020 with the option of an extra year. arsenal are in belarus this evening taking on bate borisov in the last 32 of the europa league. arsenal manager unai emery says his side have to be wary of their opponent's motivation to impress on this stage. we know it is a very organised team. i prefer to think they can take their best with good organisation
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also with good players, their motivation i think is going to be very high than us for this competition. glasgow warriors centre hquones is likely to miss the rest of scotland's six nations campaign. it follows news that club—team mate stuart hogg is struggling to be involved in the tournament again after damaging shoulder ligaments against ireland. jones suffered knee ligament damage in saturday's loss at murrayfield. both have had scans with scotland hopeful that hogg will play a further part england have a concern about prop ellis genge. he was in the frame to replace mako vunipola — who yesterday was ruled out of the rest of the 6 nations after an injury against france. forwards coach steve borthwick says his absence will be significant. he's an exceptional player and he's been playing really, really well. i think it's also the leadership he gives, the presence he has, and the effect he has on us around him. that's incredibly significant. so it's a big loss. he's won the tournament four times but 2019 will not be ronnie o'sullivan's year
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at the welsh open snooker. he's suffered a shock third round exit to the world number 71, alexander ursenbacher. the swiss made three breaks over 50 for one of the biggest wins of his career. there's been a moment to remember for thailand's noppon saengkham. he's hit his first professional maximum break of 147. it might be his only highlight against mark selby though — the world number one leads 3 frames to 1. coverage continues online and on the red button. and england'sjodi ewart—shadoff has a share of the lead in at the women's australian open golf. a bogey—free round of 65 leaves her 7 under par, along with taiwan's hsu wei—ling. england's bronte law is two adrift, with british open champion georgia hall three under. that's all the sport for now. hugh ferris will have more in sportsday at 6:30pm.
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now on afternoon live, let's go nationwide and see what's happening around the country, in our daily visit to the bbc newsrooms around the uk. let's go to nick servini in wales, to talk about how the airbus announcement about scrapping the production of the a380 superjumbo jet may affect the workforce at the broughton plant, in flintshire. and matt treacy is in the south where an raf veteran was given a fitting send—off following the discovery of a photo—album that revealed his amazing life. so, nick, what's making the news where you are? nick, tell us more about the airbus decision. lots of connections with wales and airbus manufacturer... i'm in cardiff, as the crow flies i'm
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not far from the plant at bristol and there will be many people who live in the cardiff and newport area who will travel across to that plant. tonight will be focusing on the impact on the broughton plant in flintshire where most of the wings are made for the entire airbus operation. it sits pretty much on the border between england and wales, takes in a huge sweep of the workforce right across north wales, greater manchester, merseyside. it is fairto greater manchester, merseyside. it is fair to say i think it has really been claimed by the welsh economy and the plant is the poster child for the welsh economy. and i think in the light of today's decision a lot of marketing material promoting the economic develop meant in wales may have to change, because invariably they will have a picture ofa invariably they will have a picture of a wing for a superjumbo made at that plant which will now be redundant. there is a lot of pride at that plant for what they have achieved, and the enormous
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engineering, logistical exercise that goes into creating those planes. most of the wings made at broughton are flown to the final assembly plant in toulouse. i have been there many times, to both plants, and the issue with the a380, those wings are too big to get on a plane so they have to be shipped to the south of france and taken to the finally assembled plant. over the yea rs finally assembled plant. over the years they have been very proud of how the supply chain has developed. in the context of that background, today pots make decision is a real blow and i think you have to say it's a real blow from a courtship there were corporate strategic side of things. just over ten years ago the company made a real punt by getting these enormous aircraft into the market and i think it has been fascinating today to hear from so many aviation experts who have, with the benefit of hindsight, admittedly, made the point thatjust as those aircrafts were being
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manufactured it was at a point when so manufactured it was at a point when so many airlines around the world really were not after such large aircraft and really wanted something smaller. and in a way today pots make decision is a reflection of all those elements. and what will be the impact on the workforce? thankfully, i think it will be minimal. the sorts of noises we are hearing, out ofa sorts of noises we are hearing, out of a workforce of 6000, possibly the biggest single manufacturing facility in britain, just 200 were now working on those wings. so i think the feeling is the exposure could be limited. i think in a way those numbers tell you what you need to know about how airbus felt the direction was going and i dare say to many people working internally in the business today pots make announcement did not come as a huge surprise. nick, good to talk to you. thank you forjoining us. matt, this isa thank you forjoining us. matt, this is a remarkable story. tell us about
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this man, george osborne. george peter osborne, but to most of his friends he was known as paul. he was 96, lives in southampton, sadly passed away last month. a relatively private man, not many people really knew him. there was only one person who was in his well that was traceable, still alive, it was actually one of his very good friends, someone who was nearly half his age but they met and formed a bond through a mutual workplace they both shared. and this one man was the connection to paul, and he was looking through some photo albums and the funeral director was saying there might only be a couple of people at this service. he then started looking at this photo album and it was then that the funeral director realised what story the photos were able to tell. this man,
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paul, or george peter osborne, was pa rt paul, or george peter osborne, was part of bomber command in world war ii, a hugely significant strategic and sometimes controversial operation in world were taught —— world war ii. his work was heroic, the statistics of bomber command are known by many, nearly a 50—50 chance of survival, some crews were given a two life expectancy. and there was a realisation that suddenly the person whose funeral they were about to conduct was potentially real—life war hero. and they put a post on social media to try to see if other people wanted to attend his funeral today. i love these stories. tell us what happened today.” today. i love these stories. tell us what happened today. i was down there, it was an incredibly emotional event. over 350 people we think were there. all of them didn't know paul. incredible, really, to
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have a room filled with such emotion and passion for someone they did not know. but the calling from the military family, as they put it, went out far and wide, people travelled the country to be in southampton this morning for this event. a very emotional service, and afterwards i spoke to a number of the people about why they wanted to be there and also to some of his friends about what it meant to have such a turnout. no veteran should be buried withjust two people. they are part of the family, we are a big family, and at the end of the day when somebody calls for help we all turn out. we can't forget them. and we have to honour them. so that is why i am here. i saw this on social media and i thought it's got to be done, you can't send someone off on their own with no living relatives and that. i hope someone would do the same for me one day. it was a good opportunity to say thank you to someone for the freedom that they have given us. i've not seen so many people at a funeral in such a long time. and especially for someone that had absolutely no family at all.
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but the armed forces family turned out in great force today. it was amazing. i wasn't expecting it to be that beautiful. and i think you've really got what he deserved in the end. its spectacular, and i'm sure paul would have been very, very proud to see all these people come and say thank you to him. matt, fantastic. and the great thing about nationwide, these are stories people elsewhere in the country will really appreciate and wouldn't otherwise get to see. thank you for bringing us that. thank you both very much. and if you would like to see more on any of those stories, you can access them via the bbc iplayer. and we go nationwide every weekday afternoon at 4:30pm here on afternoon live.
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jamie will have all the latest business news shortly. first a look at the headlines on afternoon live: a british schoolgirl who went to syria to join the islamic state group wants to return home —— but she could face prosecution. the prime minister faces another rebellion as brexiteers from her own party threaten to oppose her in the house of commons. waiting times for accident and emergency units in england have reached their worst level since the four—hour target was introduced in 2004. here's your business headlines on afternoon live: the european aircraft manufacturer airbus pulls the plug on its superjumbo. the last deliveries of the world's largest passenger aircraft, the a380, which costjust under £20 billion pounds to develop, will be made in 2021. patisserie valerie's parent firm is bought out of administration for £13 million — after an alleged fraud tipped it to collapse last month. the new owners, causeway capital, who will also include members
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of the management team have said they hoped to keep all 96 patisserie valerie sites open. sales in american shops fell at their fastest rate in almost ten years. the retail sales figure was 1.2% lower in december than it was in november. so much of the us economy is dependent on the power of the american consumer that it's made some economists worry it may foreshadow a wider economic slow—down. the big story today is of course airbus and its decision to take the a280 superjumbo off the production line. -- a380. there's also a renbewed hope for the employees of patisserie valerie which has been bought out by a private quity company which says it's hoping no—one will hve to loose theirjobs. and finbally there are some sales figures out in the us — and economy that has been enjoying an economic boom under president trump. but suddenly for no apparant reason shoppers have stopped shopping — what on earth's going on?
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let's talk to sophie kilvert, senior investment manager, seven investment management. what is happening with these retail sales ? what is happening with these retail sales? it came a bit out of the blue. some economists are saying possibly a recession later this year, but there is no real evidence until possibly now? really surprising figures from the states. and when you look at them, it's the biggest drop for almost ten years andi biggest drop for almost ten years and i don't think anyone was expecting them. but when you put in things like the trump tax cut that took effect the year before, all the effects of that are now out of it, you look at petrol prices in the us, they have gone up so people have a bit less to spend, and also the govan shut down there, when government employees were not being paid. infact government employees were not being paid. in fact the figures were delayed because of the government shutdown. so all those have an impact. the interesting thing to look at will be whether this is a one—month split or whether this is a longer trend, in which case we should be worried. let's talk about airbus. is this a disaster for the
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company? this is something a lot of people were expecting. it was expected, and airbus shares were up today on the back of the news. it was an experiment they try that has not quite worked. as a commentator in wales was saying earlier, the production started at a time when many airlines realised the big jumbo jets, the big planes like the a380 we re jets, the big planes like the a380 were not going to make economic sense. they wanted have the big airlines fly from the big herbs, but it wasn't going to work. they were popular with customers but airlines prefer lighter more economic airlines and that is the way the business is going. as long as airbus can continue to deliver those it's probably not the end of the world for them, and hopefully they employees can be redeployed elsewhere. and patisserie valerie, who on earth would want to go into the business of selling stuff on the high street at the moment, particularly food retail, it is such
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a difficult business. it is tough but some chains are doing well. before the crisis engulfed patisserie valerie it wasn't doing too badly. but with the potential fraud in the company it is really not in good shape. causeway capital picked it up forjust £13 million which when you think about it back in october one man's estate was a hundred and £35 million. it looks like they have got a bit of a bargain. thank you. the dow is down 65, did not like the retail sales figures. worst figures in almost ten years. and the pound against the dollar, thatis and the pound against the dollar, that is brexit worries, all along the line. and that's all the business. we've heard in the last few minutes
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that the irish foreign minister has been saying and i am quoting, it is incredible the british parliament has let it come to this. of course looking at the event in parliament today. this is the ongoing. that's it from afternoon live. we area that's it from afternoon live. we are a result expecting the result of that vote later. we will leave you the debate before it goes to the vote. who pointed out the logic of the position of so many of those labour members that spoke. based on the shadow brexit secretary plus my argument today, they should all be supporting the prime minister plasma deal. i'm very glad to actually if
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the father of the house will forgive me, that his amendment was not selected today, because it is one of the lengthy si have ever seen on an order paper and it would have taken some doing to get through it! my honourable friend the member pointed out correctly that to those who ask foran out correctly that to those who ask for an extension for article six d arejust for an extension for article six d are just reinforcing uncertainty for businesses and people alike. the memberfor meridian businesses and people alike. the member for meridian whose meriden, surrey, whose position i both understand and respect, she knows and pointed out that the best way to stop our country leaving the eu without a deal is to do as she has a lwa ys without a deal is to do as she has always done, which is to work and support the deals of the prime minister trying to achieve for this
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country. my honourable friend the memberfor monmouth, i country. my honourable friend the member for monmouth, i was country. my honourable friend the memberfor monmouth, i was really quite sure —— wasn't quite sure about his story about a shortage of viagra ina about his story about a shortage of viagra in a no diet deal scenario. i'm not sure that stands up at all. laughter we have had this debate a number of times, you need to try to lighten it i times, you need to try to lighten it up! hard brexit, soft brexit, who knows! and my right honourable friend the member for brooks knows! and my right honourable friend the memberfor brooks go, as she herself described her amendment, when she was talking about her amendment, there is a long—standing convention not to publish cabinet advice given by silbert servants, quite properly and candidly to mothers of the cabinet. the chancellor is happy to meet with her to identify the information she seeks to have published and then to commit to publish that information.
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and i hope in the light of this offer i can kindly ask her to not press her amendment. very grateful for the comments of the minister and i congratulate him, i think this is his first speech at the dispatch box. this seems a very sensible resolution. i was i've my position as follows, if those papers which i believe must be published, as others do, are not forthcoming, then i reserve the right to move an amendment on february the 27th or 28th, and i will do that unless we get those papers. but i am confident in this meeting we will identify them, they will be published and people will realise what a danger no deal is. i thank her. this afternoon continue the tradition of robust discussion on this fact, with such a degree of discussion only appropriate for such national
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significance. as you would expect, the government is following the direction delivered by the house on the 29th of january to return to the eu to seek legally binding changes to the backstop. this house has instructed the government on how to proceed and we are now delivering on that instruction. as the prime minister set out on tuesday, there are three ways this could be achieved. first, the backstop could be replaced with alternative arrangements to avoid a hard border between northern ireland and ireland. second, the backstop could have a legally binding time—limit. third, there could be a unilateral exit clause. i will give way. will he now take the opportunity to confirm that the government has started to d raft confirm that the government has started to draft textual legally binding changes to the withdrawal agreement on the point that he is making? as the prime minister has said, we have three options deliver
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on the weather of the house. discussions with the eu covered all these proposals. at this stage, there is not a specific legal text on the table. but notwithstanding we area on the table. but notwithstanding we are a any change be legally binding. —— binding. it would not be a prudent approach to start providing a running commentary on the detail. i hope that clarifies slightly where we are going. mister speaker, are no deal as the minister with responsibility for coordinating our contingency planning, i see the day—to—day work that whitehall is doing preparing us for that scenario, and i remain confident we are on route to be ready for this eventuality. however, this government does not want to have to utilise this work. as my right honourable friend the prime minister has consistently made clear, the
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only way to avoid no deal is to support a deal, and unless this house votes for a deal that the legal default in both uk and eu law is that we leave without a deal. let me assure the house that our programme of wider readiness is moving forward in a way which means there is no need to extend article 50. can! there is no need to extend article 50. can i also say there is no desire to either. 430 eu exit strategy instruments have been laid to date, that is over 60% that we anticipate will be required. five pieces of primary legislation have already passed in preparation for the exit from the eu. we have spent a long time discussing the backstop and the concerns of the house have been made clear in this regard. but it is important there are wider benefits of the backstop, offered by the withdrawal agreement will to provide citizens with the certainty of any about their rights going
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forward , of any about their rights going forward, it signals the end of the last payment is the eu meaning more money for the nhs and key priorities, whilst honouring our obligations we signed up to us we we re obligations we signed up to us we were there. and it delivers the time—limited implementation period so time—limited implementation period so vital for business. today is not the day of the end of the process, but a waypoint directing us to the finishing line. a mark on the road towards the end destination, one that this country overwhelmingly voted to see. and as i am sure, members understand now is not the time to add any new conditions, to create any unnecessary processes. now is the time... welcome to westminster. over the next hour or so we are westminster. over the next hour or so we are expecting mps to vote on two or three amendments in the house of commons followed by a vote on a government motion on the eu withdrawal bill. we will bring you
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all of our lives. we will talk to experts here outside on the green, we will explain exec to what is going on in what all the analysis means. but let's just listening to what the speaker has to say. i formally move an amendment a, mr speaker. the question is that an element a be made. as many as are of the opinion, say "aye". to the contrary, "no".. division! clearly will be! so, first, let's have a look at what votes to expect. the labour amendment which requires the government to either give mps a meaningful vote on future uk—eu relations by february 27th, or make a statement saying there is no longer an agreement, in principle, with brussels and so allow mps to vote on and amend its planned next steps. the snp seeks to postpone the brexit date by at least three months.
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