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tv   The Papers  BBC News  February 14, 2019 10:45pm-11:00pm GMT

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to my mind, of her citizenship and to my mind, she was our responsibility, she went toa she was our responsibility, she went to a british school and if she had committed crimes, albeit some of them as a child, she needs to be brought to justice and if appropriate, plan to prison. i think she should be of a comeback, and her baby was done nothing wrong should not be consigned to just the death that it's two older siblings of already suffered. this is our responsibility, i think very often we get upset when foreigners and british prisons, their country should take them back, she is our problem, she is our responsibility, if she is a criminal she should be imprisoned, but we should take a back. some will say that she took her back —— turned her back on britain and some say that she. even the most liberal of people saying no, she should not come back. in the general public you will be that
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because it is a difficult one. i think we can deal with her back here, she can be rehabilitated at some point, but we can't look at this in isolation, we have to remember how terrified we were when others beheadings and those videos, she will have seen those and decided to go out there with her friends. i think the sympathy for her that is being played on the world smallest violin. people were terrified and we cannot look at in isolation any more. she seemed to show no remorse. the general view is that she should not come back. the government to set themselves, they not going out there to put people at risk to rescue her. it looks as though we may have no choice if she walks over the border and makes it over her own way. it is she going to do that? i do not know.
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the public view is that she should not come back. when it says that headline, baby on the nhs, that will really wind people up. dozens of these brides want to get home, britain could be forced to take that but just other britain could be forced to take that butjust other pediment others fleeing the collapsing area. war never leaves of the simple situations. there are refugees, there are fighters, there are those who show remorse and those who still pose a threat to us. and sorting out the aftermath of war, of conflict and ensuring that there is truth in reconciliation and making sure those are brought to justice reconciliation and making sure those are brought tojustice is incredibly complicated and by no means a kind of peaceful decent nation state in syria they can resolve these issues.
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the uk's role and this is to take responsibility for people who grew up responsibility for people who grew up on responsibility for people who grew up on our responsibility for people who grew up on our shores and prosecute them and lock them up that is appropriate, but also to support, again, interventions in the area through humanitarian aid, through state building, through legal assistance, because these armed conflicts of the modern age are just written with complexity. establishing the idea of armed conflict still have purchase, we have to support justice conflict still have purchase, we have to supportjustice and reconciliation for people, be they british or syrian. the problem is that if they are decided if isis was doing very well they would not want to come back now, with a? and i think the public view is that these people are desperate, they want to come back because britain is in the enemy any more. britain is a great place we can come in and lift live and have a baby on the nhs and that
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is of the public will see it. and it does seem as though... donate after the first, after the second world war, and the the establishment of the human rights, one of the things he said is that you cannot make people just, you can just he said is that you cannot make peoplejust, you canjust wash he said is that you cannot make people just, you can just wash your hands of people and see you do not belong to us. i have absolutely no sympathy for any of these people, if they want to come back to the united kingdom and luxuriate and claim benefits, they've got another thing coming. obviously, she was radicalised and essentially went there, do you think she was then, to some extent brainwashed when she was there? initially today, they were talking about how she talks as though she has been brainwashed and she does talk in those terms. letting her back, we are not seeing how these people are being treated him ina how these people are being treated him in a comeback, the front of the
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telegraph, they see only one in ten have come back and been prosecuted and they are on rehabilitation programmes, we do not know the strengths on which those are, being released onto the streets. and if they are being brainwashed, how successful is the reversal? slightly different angle, the american plans to send britishjihadi to guantanamo bay. if some one does commit an act of terrorism on our soil and the americans are right, but they're saying here is returning here, they have been placed on the secretive government rehabilitation schemes rather than being prosecuted. it seems to be happening in secret as well, if we are not seeing that, if well, if we are not seeing that, if we sawjustice being done, and maybe will be happy about it, it is very
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difficult to gauge that battlefield and in pediment information. i think the danger ofjust and in pediment information. i think the danger of just saying and in pediment information. i think the danger ofjust saying what i wa nt the danger ofjust saying what i want is, that i'm going to establish guantanamo to send people as that you end up fuelling yet another generalisation to make generation of radicalisation —— generation of radicalisation. there was a lot of luck to it where he went to the camp and found a press officer saying if there's anyone want to speak to him. he was there in that place, but he was a great reporter. let's get onto brexit, going on. and apparently, another brexit vote and according to the guardian, and other humiliation. the tenth parliamentary vote she has lost on brexit. and i think this one
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is quite humiliating because it was a real unforced error, she put forth a real unforced error, she put forth a placeholder thing, basically reaffirming the position that was set before and everything is going to be fined and backstop, backstop. and because they hadn't seen this in advance and the brexiteer, it looks like a capitulation, excepting that the backstop, they got terribly upset, a huge number of them abstained and this saccharine motion before parliament has been defeated and that is really problematic because theresa may is in the process of trying to renegotiate with brussels that withdrawal agreement and trying to get some sort of focus and. did they kind of ee, sort of focus and. did they kind of agree, it probably a bit wrong, but
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as you say, it was a very strange day. no one quite gone for the valentine's day day. no one quite gone for the vale ntine's day massacre day. no one quite gone for the valentine's day massacre because it wasn't that dramatic. but she lost a month ago and then she won two weeks ago by changing her position, now she's lost again being able to persuade the eu that she can deliver if they change something has become much harder. financialtimes, a story about amazon they think you're quite interested in, scrapping their plans in new york for their new york base in the face of some fierce local hostility stop you won the biggest puzzles of our age is how we get these enormous giants to pay the tax in the markets that they serve ata tax in the markets that they serve at a huge beauty parade around the us talking about having a new hq they'll be great for your economy. is bigger and bigger bribes, they we re is bigger and bigger bribes, they were never have to pay taxes was that they settled on new york and in the face of fierce local hostility
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they're saying that we do not want you yourjobs if you're not going to pay taxes. i met some of the local democrats, there was a 70% new yorkers pull they did want them there and they would have been lots ofjobs going as well. some of these very left democrats seem to have been getting a bit of a windfall. men can be mothers says the government. for the department of health, he made these remarks in the high court hearing whether a transgender man must be recognised asa transgender man must be recognised as a father having giving birth following fertility treatment. what they said is that it is no longer gender specific and you can be called a male mother. rather than a father which upset quite a few
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people, i imagine. the baby was born out of a womb and therefore the woman belongs to a mother, but that is now in to make a birth certificate, just proves that the kind of complexity of this, it's an enormous minefield and people can react hysterically as if this means that suddenly i as a mother and expected to be a man which does not threaten me or my gender identity and the way, i think we should worry too much about this. to talk to both of you, thank you very much. don't forget to concede the front pages on our bbc news website, their seven days a week at bbc news. and if you have been to witness the programme, you can always see it later on in the iplayer. thank
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you to my guests, polly mackenzie and michael booker. we'll all be back for a slightly longer look at the papers at 11:30. but for the moment, goodbye. good evening. valentine's day turned out to be the warmest in 21 years. plenty of blue sky and sunshine to enjoy that is how it looks in west wales a little earlier not too far away, the highest temperature of the day was 16.1 degrees, plenty of other places not too far behind, i'll share with the average temperature should be at this time of year, more like seven, eight or 9 degrees. so today they have done very well indeed. but this time of year, the nights are still long enough and the temperatures overnight will drop away and so it is denied. temperatures are already dipping to freezing or even a touch
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below in places with a touch of frost tomorrow morning and some fog patches, especially across the midlands, east wales down into the south of england, some of those fog patches could clear during tomorrow, if you're travelling early on. but for most of us tomorrow is another cracking day with plenty of sunshine to be had, this band of cloud bringing a bit of rain in northern ireland, far less to scotland and quite windy and quite breezy elsewhere but have a look at how the temperatures are expected to behave. after that chilly start, he could see the yellow and even orange colours returning to the chart, by the temperatures in the range of 11 to 14 the temperatures in the range of 11 to 1a degrees, some spots could get to 1a degrees, some spots could get to 15 or 16 degrees. but a slight changes in the event of friday the start of the weekend, this frontal system start of the weekend, this frontal syste m m oves start of the weekend, this frontal system moves in from the west, a wea k system moves in from the west, a weak affairjust system moves in from the west, a weak affair just a system moves in from the west, a weak affairjust a band of cloud really. and despite that, we still have winds coming from the south of the southwest and we stick with that relatively mild deal to the weather.
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we will stay mild, dry for many but remember that frontal system, we are going to bring some rain into the picture, particularly across boston parts of the uk, let's take a day by day, saturday brings macleod, particularly towards the south but western areas of the country, northeast scotland in northeast england having the lion's share temperatures between 11 and 1a degrees. the next weatherfriend will have a bit more, so some rain pushing in and northern ireland, in weston scotland as well, but some spells of sunshine and still it will be mild with those heights of 11 to 14 be mild with those heights of 11 to 1a degrees. this is bbc news. i'm ben brown. the headlines at 11pm: they ayes to the right, 258. noes to the left, 303.
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it's another humiliating defeat for theresa may and her plans for the uk to leave the european union. president trump is to declare a national emergency, to get the funding he says he needs to build a border wall with mexico. ministers warn that a young woman who ran away to join the islamic state group could face prosecution if she returns to the uk. if you come back prepared to be questioned, investigated and potentially prosecuted. and a&e waiting times in england are the worst they've been since four—hour targets were introduced 15 years ago. and at 11:30pm we'll be taking an in—depth look at the papers
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