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w- m england. temperatures 11— 1a degrees. as we move into sunday, the next weather front has more life about it, a bit more rain on this. it will be moving quite slowly. northern ireland likely to see wet weather for a northern ireland likely to see wet weatherfor a time, at northern ireland likely to see wet weather for a time, at least on sunday. so that could fringing to the south—west of england and eventually into western scotland. if it is you are, largely dry with spells of sunshine. they breezy day but the breeze coming from the south —— the fed is you are. as we move out of sundar into monday, the weather front wishes eastwards. it wea ke ns a ll weather front wishes eastwards. it weakens all the while. this ripple may introduce rain for a time into the south—east corner. however, what the south—east corner. however, what the front does is it switches the wind direction subtly. more of a west or north—westerly flow pushing into was the british isles. the temperature is beginning to come down just temperature is beginning to come downjust a temperature is beginning to come down just a little bit. temperature is beginning to come downjust a little bit. the temperature is beginning to come down just a little bit. the values are still good for the time of year. single digit in the north still, double figures for the south. it is this area of high pressure we are watching as big a deep into next
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week. it starts to build its way back in. they returned to dry and settled weather on tuesday, once any early rain has cleared away from the south—east. areas of cloud, maybe fog and frosty start of the day as well. temperatures doing pretty well at 9— well. temperatures doing pretty well at 9- 12 well. temperatures doing pretty well at 9— 12 degrees. it looks like high pressure is going to dominate as we had deeper into next week. the high likely to build close to the british isles. some uncertainty about how close it will get, probably close enough to keep these frontal systems at bay. the jet stream staying to the west of the british isles. we are back to where we started. the jet stream to the west and mild air wafting its way back up from the south. to sum up for next week, it is generally going to stay quite mild. certainly by day. the notes could be quite chilly. long enough at this time of year for temperatures to drop away. largely dry with spells of sunshine. this flirtation with spring looks set to go on. goodbye for now. hello, this is bbc
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news, i'm ben brown. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines: the governement has suffered another defeat over its brexit strategy. theresa may's motion had asked mps to support its approach to leaving the eu. president trump says he'll sign a border security bill to avert a government shutdown, and he'll also declare a national emergency to fund his wall. a british teenager who ran away to join the islamic state group four years ago, and wants to return to the uk, has been told she could be prosecuted if she comes back. and a&e waiting times in england are the worst they've been since four—hour targets were introduced 15 years ago. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
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bringing us tomorrow. with me are polly mackenzie, who's director of the think tank, demos, and the deputy editor at the daily express, michael booker. welcome to you both, thank you for being with us. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. the metro reports shamima begum, the woman who left britain in 2015 to become a jihadi bride, and is now pregnant, wants to return home to have her child on the nhs. the times, which broke the story, say the family of the london schoolgirl have appealed for her to be shown mercy. according to the daily mail, britain could be forced to take her back, and dozens of otherjihadi brides. the sun says the teenager could be banned from coming home, adding she has no regrets and has shown no remorse for her actions. the daily telegraph says the united states is planning to send british is fighters to guantanamo bay
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amid frustration at the uk's failure to take responsibility for its homegrown terrorists. the financial times calls today's commons brexit vote a substantial defeat for theresa may and her brexit plan b. they say it further undermines her credibility as she seeks to renegotiate her exit deal with the eu. the guardian describes it as an embarrassing defeat at the hands of hardline eurosceptics, plunging her hopes of uniting the conservatives around a renegotiated brexit deal into chaos. and the daily mirror leads with research suggesting just two diet drinks a day could put women more at risk of a stroke or heart disease. that is a round—up of the front pages, so that is a round—up of the front pages, so let's start with the times, which broke the story, the
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family of the isis bride making a plea for mercy. what do you make of this whole story? what i make of it is that it is incredibly complicated. there were these three teenage girls who, like so many people, effectively sort of brainwashed, manipulated by an evil ideology that drove an evil regime. in britain, you think? how else could you be sucked into, from a co mforta ble could you be sucked into, from a comfortable existence in the united kingdom, going to war to support a regime which was murdering people, which was persecuting muslims and christians across a huge swathe of the middle east and just kind of grotesque aberration really, and i think so many people got sucked into that sense by the islamist doctrine
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and these girls in one sense were victims and had then become the perpetrators of some of that violence and are absolutely responsible, just like all of those other military and civilian actors who have been part of the devastation throughout syria and northern iraq, they need to be held to account. one of the fathers of one of the other girls has said that they were radicalised on social media initially, which you can make your own media initially, which you can make your own conclusions from there. it is interesting from this piece in the times, they broke it yesterday, they have sajid javid, the home secretary, he is saying that a lot of people will think that these people want to join of people will think that these people want tojoin daesh, were full of hate for our country, they had seena of hate for our country, they had seen a lot of what we have seen, the headings on the internet, things like that, saw the horror of it, lived through the terror attacks on british soil and even though they we re young
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british soil and even though they were young girls they still made that decision and they are very much in the minority to go and join and marry some of these jihadi guys. now, what he is also saying is that they will do everything, he will do everything to prevent their return, which again is what a lot of people want. i further on in the story the times have been told that plans have already been drawn up for a temporary exclusion order for her, which would mean she would be debriefed overseas and forced to acce pt debriefed overseas and forced to accept strict conditions for any return. and on the one hand we have the home secretary saying, well, we won't be allowing them back in, we will do whatever we can, yet they are already making plans to allow her back in. she is british whether the government like it or not. she is, but if they are talking tough they have to follow it up and if they have to follow it up and if they are not going to follow it up they are not going to follow it up they are not going to follow it up they are setting themselves up for a lot of criticism. actually the times has a double page spread on the inside with lots of kind of colour and information about the experience of all of those people in the refugee council and they found this
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young woman “— refugee council and they found this young woman —— refugee camp when they found this young woman. you get a cent and there is really beautiful writing of the horror of it all and the extent to which... —— sense. we know that millions have been displaced. we know that there are people crossing the mediterranean in fear of their lives. and there are people who are hungry and they are alone. she is not the only one who is pregnant or losing their babies. and so that sense as a war hopefully comes to its conclusion of how do you rebuild our sense that there is justice, that those who committed crimes are brought to justice? and for me britain has to play a role in that, including those people who we re that, including those people who were brought up on our shores, radicalised on our shores, educated in our schools, we have to prosecute and if necessary in prison as well. just a word about the journalism in this because it is a great old—fashioned this because it is a great old —fashioned newspaper scoop, this because it is a great old—fashioned newspaper scoop, i know it's one of your rival papers. perhaps. and to anthony loyd and inside, leshoure you inside, you can
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see him talking about how he found heramid the see him talking about how he found her amid the chaos of 39,000 refugees —— hats off. her amid the chaos of 39,000 refugees -- hats off. very modestly he says there was a lot of luck involved. he says basically he hung around, he spent a lot of time finding out whether campsite and talking to people. he talked about how we heard anecdotally about australian isis doctors, a british social worker who was also a isis bright and he spent three hours annoying people in the camp who were in charge of the camp and he said i know there are some british people here, i know there are some isis brides and they said no these and, finally one guy walks off because it was fed up with him according to anthony loyd, he said they broke first, entirely board of our presence, member of the administration, found three girls in sales, brought them back and she saidi sales, brought them back and she said i am a sister from london from bethnal green and he found her. amazing. he said it was a lot of luck. sometimes you have to work at luck. sometimes you have to work at luck. assad have pregnantjihadi teen faces ban from the uk. no
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regrets, no remorse, no entry —— the sun. let's actually go on to the express, that's your paper, mike. let's look at their front page. where is the express? it is her family. they say they understand why people are angry and don't want her back. and a lot of people are. and they don't want her back. they are saying, look, they were 15, they didn't know what they were doing. yes, they did know what they were doing. there are a lot of 15 —year—olds in this country who made the choice not to do that. it is abhorrent. one of the things anthony loyd mentions is there are canadian isis wives and french isis wives. this is a problem that so many countries have. what do we do? this isa countries have. what do we do? this is a war—torn devastated country with no functioning state, no functioning justice system. if those people are to be brought to justice, iam not people are to be brought to justice, i am not sympathetic to this woman at all. i am angry with her and with
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every single person who has perpetrated this violence in the middle east. if you want and brought to justice, we middle east. if you want and brought tojustice, we are middle east. if you want and brought to justice, we are the people with courts, we can bring that about, as are the french and the canadians. it is part of our role as we try to bring... what is the justice they will face? we mentioned it earlier and the telegraph, people are coming back and it is not explicit as to what has happened, they are not prosecuted, they are on rehabilitation programmes, touchy—feely, very nice, but it isn't a punishment. the police, it was mentioned in the times edition today, the police said they will probably not be prosecuted when they come back, because it was all, please, come back, the attitude has hardened. we have had more terror attacks on our soil. the other interesting thing in the times, going back to that, the people who have stayed this long while isis has falle n have stayed this long while isis has fallen apart, they feel they are the
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most radicalised, so they will be more of a threat if they come back. and going to what you said about the possibility of excluding her, the sun saying permanent exclusion is an option according to the sun, the security minister ben wallace, actions have consequences. do you think there is a chance she won't be allowed back in even though she is a british citizen? i think they are talking tough. they have set themselves up for a full, ben wallace and sergeant java, saying they were becoming back. if she does it is egg on their faces as soon as it is egg on their faces as soon as it happens. —— sajidjavid. it is egg on their faces as soon as it happens. -- sajid javid. you can't make them a stateless person. she does have dual nationality, one of the papers is suggesting, which meant it is possible we might be able to strip her of british citizenship, but of course the child will be born to a british mother.“ she said she was to come home and live happily with her child, would you want to live next door to that? a lot of people are happy living
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with their child. we might think given the benefit of doubt, but a lot of people, the readers of the sun, they won't. i don't want to give her the benefit of the doubt but i want a prosecuted for the crimes to which she has been party. i don't think her baby should be blamed. what crime so she committed? we don't know, we assume, having been party to it, joining basically a fighting force, a militia that has been wreaking violence and devastation across several countries in the middle east... she has been pa rt in the middle east... she has been part of something which i have no hesitation in saying is evil. and if she has committed crimes, if we can prove that, we should lock her up. her baby has done nothing wrong. she has already lost two innocent baby. that is war does to people. ok, let us move on to brexit and the guardian, well, a picture of theresa
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may, who looks like she is behind bars. she has a smile on her face. isa bars. she has a smile on her face. is a downing street? i think so. and other brexit vote for may, another humiliation, 10th brexit defeat in the house of commons. we should get it on the house of commons. we should get itona the house of commons. we should get it on a t—shirt for the next time she goes in. it was a strange vote. i think the truth in the tory party which wasn't really at risk, the arch brexiteers, they abstained during this vote, didn't support her because they felt it would take no deal off the table so it does look as though she has another humiliation for her, the guardian would say that. i think the express, they are talking about how she is standing herground, she they are talking about how she is standing her ground, she won't be held by this, she is going to keep on going. does the express think she's doing a good job? the express and the readers think that there are not many other people who carry on
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in the way that she has. she has some spine to her and she is trying to do her best. a lot of our readers are arch brexiteers and we just want to go for a no deal entirely but i think the vast majority think, look, winnie brexit in some shape or form from our readers and i think she can deliver something ——we need. that remains to be seen. the clock is ticking away. a0 odd days until march 29. yes, she is trying to run down the clock to get people in the end to come behind something approximating to her deal. she's trying to get the eu to offer her some sort of click, you know, kota seal or exchange of legal letters codisil. she said if they gave her this figleaf it would be enough by parliament has said now that we are not interested in figleaf, this was supposed to be a simple anodyne motion tojust say
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supposed to be a simple anodyne motion to just say we carry on, we are completely in agreement with what you said last week. it was not supposed to be defeat. incredibly bad handling by theresa may and the people around who unfortunately because it undermines her negotiating strategy. the eu will think, what will we do now? was the point of dealing with these people? amazon on the front of the ft scrapping plans for a headquarters ora scrapping plans for a headquarters or a base scrapping plans for a headquarters ora base in scrapping plans for a headquarters or a base in new york, lots of people in new york didn't want amazon. yes, amazon had a beauty parade amongst us cities, who wants us? and they were offered an extraordinary set of bribes, basically. parcels in your back garden. they chose new york is one of two places they would be investing. their local politicians, particularly from the left of the democratic party, progressive democrats. third are not impressed with amazon and they have issues with the way they employ
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people and tax. they have been so hostile that amazon said they are changing their minds and will not bother. new york will lose 25,000 jobs as a result. that is quite a sacrifice. average salary of 155 -- $150,000. 75% of new yorkers supported the plan. it could be a pyrrhic victory. for all of these enormous global companies that are struggling to gain legitimacy in the eyes of voters in the terms of tax they pay, they are going to need over the next ten years or so to think again about their approach to taxation. you have google and amazon and facebook saying we would love to pay more tax but we can't because of our shareholders guy in the need to find their way. -- shareholders, in the many to find their way. men can be mothers. mother is no longer a gender specific term that applies only to women. lawyers on the half of the gover arguing this in the
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case. a barrister in the department of health has said this in the high court. a transgender man must be recognised as a father on hisjob's birth certificate. it was originally, was born a woman, had fertility treatment, and is now wanting to be the father. what this lawyer has argued, he has said you can be called a male mother. the traditionalist out there, particularly daily telegraph readers, i would particularly daily telegraph readers, iwould imagine, won't have too much truck with this. you wonder. we were discussing this before we came on, you would think why do they need to take it to the high court? why do they need to have this battle? if you feel as though you are the father, if you feel you are the mother, that is ok with you. why do doubt written down if that is how you feel? that may be controversial to some people. maybe people do want it written down on the birth certificate exactly the
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relationship. but if you have a personal relationship with your child and it are those watchou are. any thoughts on this one?“ child and it are those watchou are. any thoughts on this one? it is incredibly compensated when the gender identity that people feel and value and offers meaning in their lives conflict with the sort of bodily reality of the sexes that we have forced up in the end, every baby has to be born out of a womb, and that is a female sex organ. now, some transgender people try to make a differentiation between male and female are about the sexed bodies and it is woman and man that is about the gender. here we have ended up about the gender. here we have ended up with a male mother which suggests, who knows what surgery this particular father mother has claimed. in the end is, i think attaching so much importance to these labels and being determined to ta ke these labels and being determined to take them to the high court, it is so much less important in giving a happy life and focusing on those
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things. i worry that instead ofjust trying to let people live the way they choose and wear the clothes that they choose and put their hair the way they choose, that we have got obsessed with labelling things when what really matters... they came up with this idea of the mail mother. i have never heard that... it is either a male mother or you accept that because this is a person who is now legally a man that they area who is now legally a man that they are a father. it seems to be tying everyone in knots. whichever way the court decide so many will be upset. the love story of the day is the daily mirror. the two diet drinks per day, street view, suggesting, we won't mention any particular brands, but two diet fizzy drink today could put women more at risk of either a stroke or heart disease. this has been research, a big study has been done. you think you are looking at
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yourself having diet drinks, don't you? do you? i don't. look at you with your sugary drinks over there. there has been this huge war on sugar. everything is fine. i'm having the diet option. look at weather they're getting all fat and sugar and whatnot. but it kills you just as much as that does. this is particularly reflected in the figures in women as well. it is not great news. i think it isjust bought for me from now on. do you drinka bought for me from now on. do you drink a sort of stuff? sometimes. i drink a sort of stuff? sometimes. i drinka lot drink a sort of stuff? sometimes. i drink a lot of herbal tea because i am very boring and i gave at cathine this year. don't worry, you are not boring. they do not have herbal tea hereat the bbc, can you believe? —— cattina this year. thank you very much for reviewing the papers. thank you so much. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later
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on bbc iplayer. a big thank you to my guests this evening, polly mackenzie and michael booker. and from all of us, good night. good evening. here's your latest sports news. it's been a night of mixed results for the british clubs in the europa league. chelsea have the advantage in their last 32 tie with malmo after winning 2—1 in the first leg. ross barkley putting chelsea ahead. they looked to be fully in control in sweden when olivier giroud produced a cleverfinish to make it 2—0, after good work by willian. but anders christansen got one back for malmo late on to give the home side hope, heading into the second leg at stamford bridge next thursday. arsenal were beaten 1—0 by bate borisov.
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stanislav dragun's goaljust before half time was enough to claim victory. arsenal thought they'd equalised after the break, only for alexandre lacazette's goal to be ruled out for offside. lacazette's evening went from bad to worse when he was sent off late on for this elbow. he'll miss the second leg at the emirates next thursday. i think today the result is not the result is like what we want. and on the pitch, we deserved more. but also they worked for that. and next week is going to be different. defeat too for celtic — who have a mountain to climb to reach the last 16. they lost 2—0 at home to valencia. denis cheryshev putting the spanish side ahead just before half time. and celtic were 2—0 down shortly after the restart. cheryshev the provider this time, setting up ruben sobrino
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for valencia's second. former manchester united coach eric harrison will be remembered for his morals off the pitch — as well as his success on it. that's according to the club's former first team coach rene meulensteen following harrison's death at the age of 81. harrison is credited with developing the talents of manchester united's class of 92, including david beckham, paul scholes and the neville brothers, as well as leading united to fa youth cup victories in 1992 and 1995. if you are here, going to post goals, they all speak very, very highly about him as a coach. one of the things that stands out is that values that he had. that he wanted all those players to adhere to. on and off the pitch. and that has been basically said, you know, the line throughout the manchester academy for many,
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many years after that. the lawyers representing caster semenya says she is "unquestionably a woman" ahead of a court case against athletics' governing body next week. the south african middle distance runner has a disorder of sex development and is challenging a proposed iaaf rule that aims to restrict the levels of testosterone in female runners. the case will be heard at the court of arbitration for sport next week. the iaaf issued a statement last night denying one media report that it wanted to call semenya a ‘biological male'. the draw has been made for the newly revamped davis cup finals in november, with great britain avoiding some of the big names thanks to their recent record in the competition — winning it back in 2015. there they are in group e at the bottom. they'll play kazakhstan and the netherlands in madrid. the top teams out of each group and the best two second placed nations with qualify for the knockouts. former spain and barcelona footballer gerard pique is part of the investment group behind the competition's relaunch.
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i think that what we are doing is something that will have the player, for sure, it will be much easierfor them to play davis —— help the player. it will be easier for the fa ns to player. it will be easier for the fans to follow the competition. there were a lot of reasons why we did that. people how to understand that. i hope that in the future we can change their minds. that's all the sport. at your latest weather update. not just love india today, spring in the air. lifting temperatures well above normalfor air. lifting temperatures well above normal for the air. lifting temperatures well above normalfor the time of air. lifting temperatures well above normal for the time of year. it was nearly 16 celsius. the warm spot for the uk came in wales at 16.1 in snowdonia. the highest temperature the uk has recorded on valentine's day in 20 years. across the uk, it averages in double figures. you can see ourfor —— averages in double figures. you can see our for —— removed they are from average averages at this time of
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year. the nights are still quite chilly. they called an eye to come in scotland and northern ireland compared to last night. —2 in rural oxfordshire. —— cooler nights to come. the further south you are you could see some fog patches around. 12 out there. could be dent in a few places as we start the day tomorrow. —— one or two out there. for most of us it is blue sky and sunshine all the day. cloud will increase in northern ireland, particular to the west and into western scotland on the western isles seeing outbreaks of rain arriving. the colours represent how much temperatures rebound out of that chilly start. o nto rebound out of that chilly start. onto was the mid—teens once again. 15- 16 onto was the mid—teens once again. 15— 16 celsius in the mildest of places. as we look at the wind, it isa places. as we look at the wind, it is a feature of the weather, stronger than it has been today, these are average speeds. on the western isles because the gusts up to 50 mph as it turns whether to end the day. looking at the big picture going into the weekend, there are
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weather systems coming our way. going to lose all the sunshine we have seen. more cloud around. the flow will around these were the systems from the south, it is an mahle. what can we expect of the weekend? mild, still breezy, dry for many. the weather systems will bring a bit of rain, especially, occasionally to western parts of the uk. rain on saturday morning clearing way from shetland. drizzle into south—west england. into wales and northern england seeing sunny spells on saturday. broken play to northern ireland, east of scotland. patchy rain to north scotland. a lot of sunshine to start the day. in the west again we will see increasing cloud and outbreaks of rain moving in through northern ireland into western scotland, especially the best of the sunshine will be in the east. it are still breezy, but it is still mile. most of us temperatures are still well above normal for the time of year. —— mile. that is how your weekender shaping up. not as much rolljoan as we have seen today
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or will see tomorrow. but still mild —— not as much sunshine. hello, everyone. i'm rico hizon in singapore. the headlines: president trump is set to declare a national emergency to secure funding for a border wall with mexico. he faces a battle with democrats — and some republicans — over his plans. the ayes to write, clinton 58. —— to the right, 358. the noes to the left, 253. another big parliamentary defeat for the british government over its vision for brexit. i'm nuala mcgovern in london. also in the programme:
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