tv The Papers BBC News February 20, 2019 10:45pm-11:01pm GMT
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this is bbc news. so it i'm lukwesa burak. coherent electoral strategy. 50 it is coherent electoral strategy. so it the headlines at 11pm. is going to be interesting to watch. three conservative mp5 quit the party over the government's handling of brexit. today, theyjoined the new not necessarily a problem. we are independent group on the other all obsessed in this with mr bubble side of the commons. in twitter and people saying things all the time and things have to you win in politics happen every few minutes in order for them to seem to have value. the when you are with a team, public does not operate in those and in that team with shared values and principles. terms in the normal people do not. and i believe mine are no longer welcome in the conservative party. in terms of getting a sense of what meanwhile, theresa may holds more talks with european commission people want, a more moderate presidentjean—clause juncker reasonable party, the impression in brussels in her quest to secure that you have to party leaders in at a revised brexit deal. jeremy corbyn and theresa may who are hell—bent on brexit and on much more visceral politics. and one bangladesh says there is "no interesting thing about when one question" of shameema begum co m pa res being allowed to enter the country, interesting thing about when one compares this with the foundation of after the uk government said they intended to revoke her british citizenship. iconic raf tornados make a series the sdp in the 805. it was of farewell fly— pasts remembered as being mainly labour splitting off into a more centrist party. and this is and i think it is going to be increasingly small but
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not insignificant band of people from both main parties. and that is unprecedented completely. what did you think when the news broke today? many people were saying that the police were there, it was not unexpected. i think people were more surprised by soubry's decision to leave then perhaps you might think. she has been very outspoken. she has had a tough time from a lot of commentators for the way she has approached the issue of brexit but she has been in the party for such a long time, such a committed tory. so involved with the work of george 0sborne, still defending george 0sborne's austerity campaign which is wheni 0sborne's austerity campaign which is when i think i disagree with you in terms of the fact that i think austerity is still the single most visceral subject in our politics at this time. will not be talking about brexit but so many of the conversations about brecht and are actually about what at living standards and prosperity we think we can achieve through any kind of ideology in this country. so i think
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four and ideology in this country. so i think fourand a ideology in this country. so i think four and a soubry to have made that move and still today been defending the austerity project under george 0sborne is showing us that we may have at the very least a broad at church already in terms of the independent group. and it is easy andi independent group. and it is easy and i agree, it is easy for anyone to define themselves by what they are against. yes. and there is a hell of a lot that one can be and i would argue should be against them both main parties at the moment. there is such a really nasty visceral type of politics, plu5 brexit and many other things besides. but as he was saying, using the term broad church, it is going to bea the term broad church, it is going to be a big tent this new grouping. and then coming up with policies that are more than motherhood and apple pie and art defined it strictly to go into a general election oriented by elections or whatever it is going to be for these
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people to have a political future in art people to have a political future in a rt system people to have a political future in art system is going to be a lot harder. turn to the metro, you have a picture of the three amigos on their front a picture of the three amigos on theirfront page a picture of the three amigos on their front page and a guy with the same story. what do you make of their headline there? same story. what do you make of their headline there ?|j same story. what do you make of their headline there? i think it is quite strong but i think it also suitis quite strong but i think it also sums up yet another problem, which is what has brought these two groups together is a sense that they do in some ways want to change the argument around brexit. they are all united by remain as a common cause. it was interesting to have amber rudd, who has relatively good relationships with some of these three, saying that she sounds with them in terms of trying to avoid a no—deal brexit. it may have changed slightly the leverage in terms of the cabinet table in some ways because there is now this very real threat of further defections if people feel like they are having to choose between no deal and... do you think there are more defections to
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come? they will be up diminishing returns. another one or two, yes. the key is if they are people of really big stature and art surprising names coming into this. but i mean if you are... i am old enough to remember the john but i mean if you are... i am old enough to remember thejohn major government in the 905, and the people who are now in the mainstream of the conservative party were then seen as of the conservative party were then seen as a very much on of the conservative party were then seen as a very much on the periphery. john major famously called them a bad word and they were seen very called them a bad word and they were seen very much called them a bad word and they were seen very much as called them a bad word and they were seen very much as very much extremists. and the one nation moderate centrist tory tradition has pretty much withered away within the conservative party. at every level, in terms of representation in westminster, and local authorities and everywhere else. but those people have not gone away in that type of politics has not gone away. so it does need to find a home. the question is can you reconcile that home with the sort of
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next—generation tony blair, gordon brown moderate labour in the same tent? let's turn to the daily telegraph and the other story that has been going for a few days now is shamima begum and the headline on the front of the telegraph... so much confusion over citizenship and this concerning three countries now. so first and foremost it is quite difficult sometimes to determine whose primary citizenship is aware. we have holland, bangladesh and the uk all indicated in this situation now. because they —— she married a dutchman, the child is a british citizen and has a claim on that via her mother and they have made it very clear the child is not in question here. and this idea that
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because the child and the right to a family life, to stay with your children, might be a route for shamima begum to return even though the home secretary wrote her family to say she has been stripped of her uk citizen ship so far. we expect there to be a legal contest over that issue. i think what we are learning from this story is, as we have learned from anglo —— and have... learn from the netherlands, people are not going to be a comedy to the uk in this either. no one wants to own this problem. and there isa wants to own this problem. and there is a lesson for the uk there, i think, about the issue with making this move to strip citizenship. it does not mean we need friends in the game of international chess, you know, dealing with things like extradition treaties and arrest warrants which are going to be much bigger issues for us post brexit. a drama commitment will not have access to the eu arrest warrant so issues like this are going to become
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a lot more contested. this is to meet just a lot more contested. this is to meetjust silly typical a lot more contested. this is to meet just silly typical sergeant javid gesture, appealing to newspapers and desperate to win the tour leadership when theresa may is ousted. he knows the chances of this being a return to the courts are very high. simply because the state, the idea of rendering somebody effectively stateless, the bangladeshi foreign minister has already said that she has no status in their country, so she is effectively stateless. i think if you were betting, you would say this will get overturned in the courts but it is a fight that he is spilling to have purely for political purposes. it is an incredibly complicated case. we were talking earlier about the next question of whether you become a jihadist bride at that young age limit to what degree are you a victim, to what degree are you a perpetrator, to what degree are you both or a mixture? these things are
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incredibly difficult. and this sort of gesture politics does not help. two more papers to get through. a story also linked to that on the telegraph i5 story also linked to that on the telegraph is the independent and these figures, interesting figures coming out, seven fold rise in britain's stripped of citizenship. a5 britain's stripped of citizenship. as we have a saying, that is because they are not allowed under international law to be rendered stateless so they have some other citizenship to fall back on. it is interesting how much they have a shot up by. i think there is a fear of not having either due process to deal with the situation and the advice was if you leak and that you may not be let back in again, recall back to when the fears are rising among people. we have to remember that we do not have the laws necessary to deal with the most basic crime you could argue that has been undertaken here, which is essentially the betrayal of the
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state, of the country when you know that isis was a very real present threat to you kate nationally as a grouping but also to individuals walking the streets every day. there has been a fundamental betrayal here. i don't think anyone can argue that. the question is whether or not out that. the question is whether or not our due that. the question is whether or not oui’ due processes are that. the question is whether or not our due processes are adequate were she to return home for us to see a proper legal process happen. i think we probably cannot do that in the timeframe and people are using a panicked response to a very good question. other countries do this as well. then you had this competitive stripping of citizenship for what is u nfortu nately a stripping of citizenship for what is unfortunately a not a significant body of people, many of whom are in refugee camps either 5till body of people, many of whom are in refugee camps either still in syria or in jordan or refugee camps either still in syria or injordan or in lebanon or turkey. in those countries are dealing with far greater rates of numbers than anybody in europe, not to speak of the germans, who taken for more than we have. very quickly
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we for more than we have. very quickly we only have a minute, could you summarise the ft story with st. mary's not being happy.|j summarise the ft story with st. mary's not being happy. i should defer to the ft story here. we might re call defer to the ft story here. we might recall it's mike cooper being in an unguarded moment when this was first announced of this deal was bigger than the tesco deal, the competition and markets authority trust to make sure he did not have a monopoly in the uk market has said that we do not like the look of this and we think it is going to change shopper's choice and said no, not looking good at, guys. this is really tanking sainsbury's share pricing and put in a sticky situation. we will have more time on the stories in around two of the papers. i misted to find out if the things that are warning about, they are very things that are warning about, they are very real, very real ri5k5. we will bring it up again at 11:30 p:m.. hope to see you then.
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that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers, and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you, john kampfner and anna isaacs. we are back at 11:30pm with the next addition and i am back at the top of the hour. see you then. good evening. tropical weather in february. it does not sound quite right, does equipment but there is some tropical air on its way towards our shores. he did some tropical air on its way towards ourshores. he did not some tropical air on its way towards our shores. he did not look especially tropical on wednesday in southwest wales but a better day slightly in terms of sunshine across eastern scotland and not too far away from where this picture was taken, away from where this picture was ta ken, temperatures away from where this picture was taken, temperatures got all the way up taken, temperatures got all the way up to 50 degrees. that tropical air
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has been scooped up by thejet strea m has been scooped up by thejet stream from close to the caribbean, the jet stream bending southwards and northwards again, allowing the tropical air to flood its way northwards across the british isles was of the air has cooled a little on its journey but it has come from a really warm place, this brings the potential for two printers a5 a really warm place, this brings the potentialfor two printers as high as potentialfor two printers as high a5 17 potentialfor two printers as high a517 or 18 degrees over the next few days. back to the here and now, during tonight, a of cloud around and some splashes of rain here and there was a clear spelt to the southeast and most especially across northeast, so after the highest of the daytime to richard's ear, likely to be the lowest night—time hit temperatures across there as well. elsewhere, generally a mild night holding up around 10 degrees in glasgow. tomorrow morning starts off with a lot of cloud and the odd splash of rain and not yammer here and there but shower standing to fade though. the cloud working up to the day to give some spells of sunshine especially across england and england and wells and also in northeast gotland with shelter here from the south westerly wind. that could be what we see the high strictures again, maybe 16, 17,
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possibly 18 degrees. the more widely, 13—50d and weigh above where we widely, 13—50d and weigh above where we should be at this time of year. ata we should be at this time of year. at a thursday into friday, high pressure built more strongly across the southeast of the uk and not many white lions not many isobars on the chart so light winds and some fog developed, quite widespread possibly in the southeastern corner of the uk. could be quite dense and slow to clear but it will to leave some spells of sunshine. most places dry on friday and still that warm air moving across the country so temperatures 13—16 with the odd spot may be 17 or 18 degrees. into the weekend, high—pressure hold from across the continent where the system is trying to squash it from the atlantic and the squeeze the tube bringing ourairup the atlantic and the squeeze the tube bringing our air up from the south and maybe not as tropical a5 thursday and friday but that's to the weekend is still above average and for many places, it stay dry.
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