tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News February 25, 2019 10:00am-11:01am GMT
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hello it's monday, it's10am, i'm victoria derbyshire. from 2020, all primary school pupils will be taught about relationships and all secondary students will learn about sex. it's right that all children growing up have the opportunity to... to discuss and to find out about these important issues in the world they're growing up in. parents who are angry that they will no longer be able to withdraw their children from sex education classes are having their views discussed in parliament today. could brexit be delayed? that's what some politiicans want. these two mps, one ex—labour, one ex—conservative say they will do everything they can to stop
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the uk from leaving with no deal. stopping this country from leaving without a deal is an absolute priority and we know that there are brave conservatives who feel the same, who will not allow it to happen. we'll talk to anna soubry and chuka umunna of the new independent group ahead of the group holding its first meeting today. campaigners have delivered a huge plastic bottle to the environment secretary — to highlight their fears that billions of plastic bottles could end up being burned or buried every year — if the government waters down plans to encourage bottle recycling. and olivia colman won best actress at the oscars and also best speech. i used to work as a cleaner and i loved thatjob. i did spend quite a lot of time imagining this. oh, "please wrap up", 0k. she blows a raspberry. laughter. and... thank you...
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hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until ”am this morning. as a parent let us know what you think about the fact that relationships education will be compulsory for all children in primary school, relatisonships and sex ed will be compulsary for all children in secondary schols. this giudance was last updated in the year 2000 — since then we've had the rise of smartphones, sexting, access to online porn, predators using the internet to groom children and so on. let us know if you welcome these mandatory lessons for your child. we'll look forward to hearing from you after the news with carrie gracie. 0livia colman has won best actress at this year's 0scars. she picked up the academy award for her portrayal of queen anne in the film the favourite. the other main winners at the ceremony overnight were rami malek — who won best actor for his portrayal of freddie mercury in bohemian rhapsody — and green book, a story about race in 19605 america,
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which picked up the award for best picture. theresa may is meeting european leaders — including germany's angela merkel — at a summit in egypt today, as she continues to seek changes to her brexit deal. the prime minister wants extra legal promises regarding the future of the irish border. but she's also facing pressure at home to rule out leaving the eu without an agreement. children as young as four are to be taught in schools in england about relationships, and how to keep safe on the internet. it's part of new government guidelines being issued on sex education, the first major change to how the subject is covered in the curriculum for two decades. the inquests into the deaths of 21 people who were killed by two ira bombs in birmingham in 1974 will reopen this morning. six men, who were jailed for the pub bombings,
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served 17 years behind bars, before their convictions were quashed. the hearings are expected to last for nine weeks. a controversial cartoon of the tennis star serena williams published in an australian newspaper last year did not breach media standards — according to the country's press watchdog. the cartoon, in the herald sun newspaper, mocked williams becoming angry in her us open final defeat, last year. it was criticised for depicting her in a way which used racist and sexist stereotypes of black people. but the australian press council ruled that it was a "non—racist caricature". baroness karren brady has quit her post in sir philip green's retail empire, just days after telling shareholders she had a duty to remain in thejob. her resignation, as nonexecutive chairman of taveta, the holding company for the arcadia group, comes as sir philip continues to face allegations of sexual harassment and racial abuse made against him — allegations he strongly denies.
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good morning. there's growing pressure on the prime minister to say she would delay brexit rather than leave the eu without a deal at end of march. some conservative mps says ministers could postpone brexit until the 23rd of may so that theresa may has more time to negotiate. well it's been a week since the first of eight labour mps announced they were quitting their party to form a new breakaway political party called the independent group — all which aims to avoid a no—deal brexit and in some cases aims to stop brexit altoghter. they were joined shortly afterwards by three conservative mps and they're holding their first formal meeting today. chuka umunna is the mp for streatham in south london, formally a labour mp.
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and anna soubry who is mp for broxtowe in nottinghamshire, and left the conservative party last week. let's start with brexit, you're not going to get another big vote on mrs may's medrol deal until possibly i7 days before the uk is due to leave the eu, two weeks before we're due to depart. does that mean you will feel you will have to vote for her deal to avoid leaving no deal? she can't hold us to ransom, she's going to try to do so but she hasn't got the numbers, there is not support for utterly without a deal in the house of commons. there is a measure coming before the house on wednesday to empower the house on wednesday to empower the house of commons to stop an adult brexit. we have a good chance of winning. if that doesn't happen, if march the 12 happens, will you feel under pressure to vote for it? no, i don't feel under pressure to vote for it. you risk no deal? there's no majority in the house in favour of
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the deal. we are reasonably confident that those conservatives who feel like we do about this, because this is... although we founded the people's bowed with others, that is hugely important to us, stopping this country from leaving without a deal is an absolute priority. there are brave conservatives who feel the same who will not allow it to happen. you will not allow it to happen. you will vote for this proposal by yvette cooper? what we did last week has emboldened those ministers and government you've heard tobias ellwood on one of your sister outlets today, richard harrington, i was on a programme with robert buckland, they are clear publicly now that they're not going to go along with us crashing out without a deal. the only way to stop that is extending the article 50 process. the former conservative members of oui’ the former conservative members of u , the former conservative members of ourgroup, if the former conservative members of our group, if they hadn't did what they did last week, i'm not sure you would have this environment brewing
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where people are actually prepared to finally put the country first, put it before the party interest and put it before the party interest and put the national interest first. you will introduce contempt proceedings against... i'm not saying we're definitely... were going through the process of it. ok. who would it be... against the minister in exiting the european union, you could say a brexit minister. you are considering instituting contempt proceedings against a particular brexit minister, just explain what that means. the other week we got a promise, going through all this technical stuff, which i know is technical stuff, which i know is technical and everything else. but i put forward something. in order to make sure we didn't have a vote, which we would have won, this minister, with the agreement of the government, said we will give you these papers. these papers are really important, they've been prepared notjust really important, they've been prepared not just for the really important, they've been prepared notjust for the cabinet but also for a subcommittee of the cabinet. what they show is an impartial, honest appraisal of the
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grave dangers to our country in trade and economic terms, if we leave without a deal. we believe the people have a right to see those papers. and they promised they would publish them. but they haven't. and members of the cabinet take the same view, which is why it is even more important they should be published. at the moment, i am important they should be published. at the moment, lam putting my faith and good ministers, who are promising that what i need will be delivered in time for wednesday's debate and that's the critical thing, because it will inform members of parliament as well as your viewers. just think about this, victoria. you see on the front of the times newspaper, the government is putting in preparation for a no deal hardship fund for people who fall on hard times as a result of a no—deal brexit. what better symbol is therefore the broken politics in this country when you have a government carrying on as if it's going to take us out without a deal and having to put in a hardship fund, plan for and having to put in a hardship fund, planfora hardship and having to put in a hardship fund, plan for a hardship fund, for that eventuality. that is appalling. the education secretary wouldn't
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confirm it. he didn't deny it. a lot of these leaked papers are in the times as well. let me ask you this, what do you say to voters who say it is outrageous that you are trying to stop brexit which is your ultimate aim. i am not trying to stop brexit. remember, both of us voted... you are trying to stop brexit. we both voted to trigger article 50. we both voted to trigger article 50. we both voted for the withdrawal agreement that says in law we will leave at the end of march of this year. from my point of view, i have always said this is now over to the british people. yeah. we believe with a passion there should be a people's vote. it's up to the people. we can't stop it. it can only be by the people. however you voted, can't stop it. it can only be by the people. howeveryou voted, in can't stop it. it can only be by the people. however you voted, in 2016, i don't think anybody voted for this mess. nobody thought things were going to turn out as they have, i didn't. if you look at younger
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voters, more than 80% of those who have been able to vote now, since 2016, who couldn't before, they want to stay in the eu and 74% of those think that there should be a people's vote so they get a say and they will have to live with this longer than any other generation. they will have to live with this longer than any other generationlj think longer than any other generation.” think the tide has turned again in favour of a people's vote. i was in nottingham on saturday and i was struck by the number of people who we re struck by the number of people who were saying, absolutely, the only way through the mess is to give it back to the british people. you have been appealing on social media for most of the week for people to join your new group, how many have signed up your new group, how many have signed up in the last seven days? well, we've had thousands of people make small donations through our website,. i don't know about who have signed apps. substantial sums. —— who have signed apps. substantial sums. — — who have have signed apps. substantial sums. —— who have signed up to the newsletter. is that thousands? tens of thousands. also, the website has crashed twice. because so many people are trying to get on it.
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700,000 people went on it went to and his crew left the labour party. a former labour donor said he has already given you some money, how much? i don't know the exact figure. we have been completely overwhelmed. let mejust be we have been completely overwhelmed. let me just be clear, because you are right to ask these questions, victoria. we are not a political party, we are a group of independent mps. a rich man can give you a big donation. that is old politics. there's nothing wrong with being a rich man. there's nothing wrong with having a social conscience. it sounds familiar. this is one of the things we got to look at in terms of how we reform politics, how we fund it. we are not a political party. we don't have to have the same levels of transparency as the established parties technically but we have already said we will do so and put that information out there so that people can see. we are doing this to
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change politics. we have said however much people want to give us, please help provide us with funds so we can build an infrastructure. we have these two big goliaths who are used to having it their way, the system is generally rigged in their favour and we are trying to do something insurgent with this start—up new outfit. something insurgent with this start-up new outfit. are you really telling me you don't know how much sir david garrett gave you?” telling me you don't know how much sir david garrett gave you? i don't know. you have an approximate figure? it's great. so what is it? we will publish all of this information. so you do now? i have i'io information. so you do now? i have no idea at all but i have had thousands of e—mails, hundreds from constituents in 3—1 to say well done and we are behind you, we are blown away. there's barely any structure. people said they had given us money but we genuinely haven't got a clue. there has been a positive reaction, i've seen it on social media and i've seen it on social media and i've interviewed people here who said they were politically homeless until you left your respective
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parties and formed this independent group but by far the overwhelming response from people has been about the potential hypocrisy. you want a so—called people's vote when it comes to brexit but you don't want to get people in your constituency isa to get people in your constituency is a vote, by—election, and whether they still want you, now you've left your respective parties. are you hypocrites? not at all. my values and principles haven't changed. i've stood for parliament and been successful on three occasions since 2010. but you left your former party. no, they have left me. i haven't changed. the conservative party has changed. it has abandoned almost the entirety of its manifesto. i made it very clear when i stood in broxtowe injune of 2017 that i would continue to make the case for the single market, customs union and positive benefits of immigration. i had not changed, the tory party has changed. you don't think you should give your constituency chance to say whether they still want you ? constituency chance to say whether they still want you? jeremy corbyn
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himselfno, let me ask about you. jeremy corbyn is clear that in our parliamentary democracy you let the individual before all else. if they don't like our parliamentary democracy you get it. i was elected as an individual first and foremost and, like anna, i was clear. i as an individual first and foremost and, like anna, iwas clear. i put ata and, like anna, iwas clear. i put at a different manifesto document during the 2017 general election saying i would fight against the tory ha rd saying i would fight against the tory hard brexit. that's got to be the first time you used jeremy corbyn to back up one of your arguments. i have actually made a note of that. i think is right on that. in my constituency, the highest remain vote in the country in streatham, got an increase in vote of over 15% and my next—door neighbour who i was on your show with, who is very pro—brexit, the increase in her share of the vote was about 3%. there is a clear difference and it's down to my position on brexit. the other thing is, make no mistake in the
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parliamentary elections are not going to solve this brexit mess. 0k. you've talked a lot about shared values, i will ask you about a major fundamental difference between you, which is about austerity. anna soubry, you said george osborne did a greatjob, i'm a big fan, the coalition did a marvellous job. those are probably not the adjectives you would use about george osborne or the coalition in terms of austerity. how would you describe what they did? i think they went too far. i disagreed with the levels of austerity that there were, not because i don't think you need to balance the budget, but there is nothing progressive about spending more paying off your debts than you invest in transport, police and other issues, which has been the case over the last few years. but it went too far. this is what makes our group different. shed progressive values and we are going to have taken different values and we are going to have ta ken different positions values and we are going to have taken different positions over history. but our country is divided and if we are capable, coming from different political traditions, bridging the consensus on policy, we have a much better chance of uniting
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the country than these old tribal parties. i was a member of that government. you disagreed with your former parties and you felt you had to leave as a result. now you're saying you can disagree with each other, but you don't have to separate? no, i think... what's other, but you don't have to separate? no, ithink... what's the difference? separate? no, ithink... what's the difference ? i separate? no, ithink... what's the difference? i was a member of that coalition government from 2010 to 2015 and the mistakes that were made, actually, was about the delivery of a lot of those policies. isaid delivery of a lot of those policies. i said only the other week in parliament, i refused to vote for the local government settlement because nottinghamshire county council hasn't got enough money. i said all those things before i left the conservative party because what's happened since 2015 has been too much. i would just say this, it's really important about the tory party. it was in coalition with the lib dems from 2010 until 2015. now, de facto, it is in coalition with the dup. that says everything about
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the dup. that says everything about the change in the conservative party. | the change in the conservative party. i want to ask you about the kind of abuse you've received. we talked about the positive reaction. you and your fellow former labour mps have been called scabs, tory stooges, angela rayner said you could prop up a tory government. what do you say to those kind of insults? that is the same old politics, isn't it? tribal, slightly bullying tone. this just reinforces why we left and frankly why we have to change our broken politics and build an alternative. is it true that your local conservative association has banned you from working with local conservative candidate in the election? campaigning for them which i find bizarre. you would still want to do that. i made it clear when i wrote to the members, i said i will support candidates in the forthcoming may elections and the chairman said on the instructions of
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conservative hq that are not allowed to do it and candidates are not allowed to take up my offer, which is not the way the tory party used to work. i wouldn't have got elected three times without huge support from friends, family and supporters, none of whom were members of the conservative party. again, shows this intolerance, this tribalism. and from the tory point of view, the shift to the right. what a terrible state our politics is in, when a former member of the party says, if you're a good counsellor and you're a tory, i want to come along, you're a tory, i want to come along, you're a good candidate, and help you get re—elected and i'm told no, you are not allowed. finally, are you the leader of the group? we don't have a leader. how will you choose? formally we will meet today for the first time to determine roles and responsibilities. i said first time to determine roles and responsibilities. isaid i first time to determine roles and responsibilities. i said i would like to play the biggest role possible that i can, putting all my energy... so, being a leader. we are
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all leaders, that's one of the things, we think everybody has a leadership role and we won't all be like robots, bowing to the great leader, if there ever is one. that is one of the problems with the two main parties. the labour party has become a cult and i would hate that. do you want him to be a leader?” have a strong bias towards my dear friend. we become really great mates. for about two years, now. and working really well together. for me, it's an absolute joy and pleasure, i don't know about chuka umunna. of pleasure, i don't know about chuka of course! thank you both. alan says the general public do not want a brexit delay, most are all fed up, tired and bored with it all and no longer ca re and bored with it all and no longer care what happens. john says, please explain to chuka and his buddies, they are no longer representatives for their constituency, they resign from the party that elected them, therefore the job goes with that
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resignation. lindsay says these people are all remainers who are trying to frustrate brexit and prevent m rs trying to frustrate brexit and prevent mrs may from getting a good dealfrom the eu. as long as prevent mrs may from getting a good deal from the eu. as long as they don't support the pm, they are giving the eu hope that we will either not leave or we will be left dominated by them in a bad deal. these people are arrogant and outrageous and totally against democracy. they're all mps by dishonest means and should go for a by—election. there are many more to come. we will read some before 11am. still to come. sex education is to become compulsory in all secondary schools from next year. but should parents be allowed to remove children from these classes? we'll put that question to someone who teaches sex and relationships in schools. and she wasn't the favourite, but olivia colman takes everyone by surprise by winning best actress at the oscars. we'll get reaction from hollywood.
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environmental campaigners are warning that more than 6 billion plastic bottles every year could end up incinerated or in landfill if the government waters down plans to introduce reverse vending machines to boost recycling rates. greenpeace has been protesting outside the office of the environment minister michael gove in westminster this morning. our reporterjim reed is here. we have some pictures of this protest by greenpeace this morning in central london. they walked this giant plastic bottle through the streets of london in rush hour. to the headquarters of darfur, the government ministry in charge of the environment. —— headquarters of defra. there is concern the government might water down a policy that hasn't come into force yet but was first announced in march last year to boost recycling rates. the idea is to copy a similar scheme they have in 30 other countries. we
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have pictures of how it would work in this country. 15p extra for a bottle, a drink in a plastic bottle under this new scheme. when you are finished, you would stick your bottle into a reverse vending machine. that would be at retailers, supermarkets like that. it crushes it, gives you a token which you can use to get money off your shopping. you get paid back that way. the government wants to bring this in but it hasn't come into force at the moment. that is why environ mental groups are worried? in principle they are very supportive. -- make environmental groups. they have had this scheme in germany for a while. 22p, their recycling rates for drink bottles are 95, 90 7%. our recycling rates are down to 55, 60%. four in ten end up incinerated or in
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landfill, they say it should be extended to cover all plastic bottles a nd extended to cover all plastic bottles and what they are concerned about is that moves they think the government are making potentially to restrict the type of plastic bottle that could be used. they want all plastic bottles like this included. the government is consulting as to whether it should just be small plastic bottles like this or every plastic bottles like this or every plastic bottles like this or every plastic bottle including large ones. that is what they are concerned about. we spoke to sam, the political advisor for greenpeace this morning. as many of your viewers will be aware, we're in the midst of a plastic pollution crisis. a rubbish truck full of plastic is ending up in our oceans every single day, and single use drinks containers, the kind that will be included in this scheme, are a huge part of that. now, what industry wants to do is they want to limit the scheme that we're proposing, they want to make smaller bottles be included, they want to limit the kinds of materials that will be included. what that would do is, every single year, 6 billion bottles will be excluded from the scheme. so, they would be at a much higher risk of being dumped in our environment, washing up on our beaches or burned.
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and, for us, that is not acceptable. what does the government say? it is committed to being a world leader in tackling plastic pollution and says it is now consulting on these two measures for england wales and northern ireland. there is a separate consultation, they are further ahead in scotland, but they will make the same decision, whether it is all these plastics all the smaller type covered by this new scheme. thank you. -- or the smaller type. its week two of our sustainability challenge. we have a house of six students at loughborough university and over the course of the month we re showing them, and you at home, how to live more sustainably — and so use fewer of the earth's natural resources. last week, it was fashion, this week we re looking at plastics. in a moment, we ll go live to the student house in loughborough, but first, michael cowan looks at the plastic polluting our planet. plastic. we use it in just about everything, from ourfood packaging, to the tv
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you're watching, right now. it started mass production in the 19505. and, since then, we've created 8.3 billion tonnes of it. that's 822,000 eiffel towers. because it can take between 50 and 600 years to biodegrade, almost 80% of it is still with us, languishing in landfills, rubbish dumps and our oceans. it's in our natural world that plastic pollution is the most pronounced. there's 150 million tonnes of plastic in our seas, a figure that's set to treble over the next decade. most of it comes from just ten rivers, eight in asia and two in africa, where it's carried downstream and into the ocean. every year, 1 million birds and 100,000 sea mammals die from eating it or getting tangled in it. all plastic is made from oil, and 90% of it can't be recycled. as well as the energy that goes into extracting and burning fossil fuels, a recent study found
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as plastics degrade, they further pollute the environment by releasing methane. scientists warn that as the earth gets warmer, more gases from plastics will be emitted. around half the plastic we use is single use, that's things like plastic bags and water bottles. globally, every minute, we purchase 1 million plastic bottles. and when it comes to plastic bags, we're using 5 trillion, annually. but since the uk government levied a charge on them, major supermarkets have reported an 83% decrease in their use. micro—plastics form when it's broken down in our oceans as well as from beauty products that use things like microbeads. as well as polluting oceans, scientists and health organisations are now worried about the effect on humans. we already know the damage they can do to sea life.
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crabs, for example, have less energy, to grow, the more plastic they've consumed. we know it's in our tap water. recent research found 72% of samples from europe were contaminated with micro—plastics. this week, as well as showing you how to minimise your plastic impact, we're going to be investigating the scale of the uk's micro—plastic problem. and our reporter, mike cowan, is in loughborough this morning. good morning vic, we are live from our sustainable student house in loughborough this morning ready to start week two of their challenge. two of our challenge. this is the patio, which we ll be making use of later, and in here is the kitchen. not much use this week, but for next week 5 challenge they ll be spending a lot of time
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slaving over a hot stove. i just want to bring you into the student lounge now where this week 5 challengers amy and jay are, and over here is our plastics expert lucy siegle. good morning. firstly to you lucy, the scale of our plastic problem is getting worse not better, how do we turn the tide? plastic consumption is coming up. it's a big task. estimates are that 256 billion single use or single items from plastics are used by british consumers every year. absolutely huge and that is growing year—on—year. between 2002 and 2012, more plastic was created than at any other time during history. most of that has gone into consumer products. the best thing we can do is not wait for policy, government, but start with ourselves and stop the flow of plastics into our lives.
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this is the flow from amy and j. from their house. from the last week. it is good evidence. i will go through this, i enjoy doing things like that. tell us what we will be doing this week. don't look so nervous. what's don't look so nervous was to what's going through your head?” look so nervous was to what's going through your head? i think we are all going to struggle with it. seize the challenge. you are going to do it. i know you are. jay, what do you know about your plastic consumption, do you think you use a lot? if there amount, igot do you think you use a lot? if there amount, i got to be honest, when i buy food, when i buy anything, it's more plastic, cannot control it.
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some of that you can control and some of it you cannot. you will be so some of it you cannot. you will be so empowered, imagine having control over your bin. isn't that good? how are they going to cut consumption? sta rt are they going to cut consumption? start easy. no more single use coffee cups. we also have these posh little sets of, they are made of wood, wherever you are eating, you will not use any plastic and you will not use any plastic and you will be doing simple swaps to start with, the soap bar we will learn to love it rather than shower gel. and mysteriously, we are going to discover why the funnel is a must have. perfect. we are off to rifle through the bin bags and get you started. you can see how amy and jay get on with the challenge this friday on the programme. we are off to rifle through the bin bag. cheers. chance on twitter it says in wales we are trying to recycle plastic, i hope the rest of the world follows suit, it could be and
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should be law by now. another viewer says the world needs to understand what it means when they are sold plastic water bottles. they are being sold plastic, not water. still to come. from 2020, all primary school pupils will be taught about relationships and all secondary students will learn about sex. but should it be a parent's right to choose? and a new warnings about diet pills containing the lethal substance dnp — we'll talk to the father one 21—year—old woman who died after taking them we interviewed a couple of members of the new independent group at the start of the programme, the group of mps who let the respective parties, conservative and labour. we spoke to anna subaru and chicco amana. we've had some negative comments and positive comments. we think they are the most sensible people in politics. they've said i heard a comment on your show that one of
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them doesn't represent his constituents. my wife and i are lifelong labour supporters and he has our full support. i believe politics is fractured and we need a new way. and another one for now says i applaud both of them. those have had the guts to stand up for what they believe in. politics has got bullying and lacking in integrity from both main parties and the best for is bringing mps from different parties together combining ideas. i wish them well. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live. if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. olivia colman was
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the big british winner at last nights oscars. she was named best actress for her role as queen anne in the favourite. i've been chatting to our man in hollywood, danjohnson — but first let's watch olivia colman‘s fantastic acceptance speech. this is hilarious! laughter. i've got an oscar! 0k... i have to thank lots of people. if, by the way, i forget anybody, i'm going to find you later and give you all a massive snog and i'm really sorry if i might forget now. but, yorgos, my best director and the best film and with emily and rachel, the two loveliest women in the world to fall in love with and to go to work with, every day. i mean, you can imagine, this wasn't a hardship. laughter. to be... to be in this category, with these extraordinary women and glenn close... you've been my idol for so long and this is not how i wanted it to be. i think you're amazing. laughter. i love you very much. i love you all!
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thank you. lindy king, my agent, who took me on over 20 years ago, thank you so much! and olive and hildy and bryna, who made me do things i said no to, but she was right. and my mum and my dad. well, you know. and my kids, who are at home and watching. look! well, if you're not, well done, but i sort of hope you are. this is not going to happen again. laughter. and any little girl who is practising their speech on the telly, you never know! and when i... i used to work as a cleaner, and i loved thatjob. i used to spend a lot of my time imagining this. oh, "please wrap up", ok. laughter. thank you. and my husband, ed, my best friend,
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i love you so much. 25 years, you've been my best supporter and he's going to cry! i'm not! laughter. thank you so much! fox, everybody, everybody, the cast, the crew. frances, sam, thank you, thank you so much! thank you so much! lady gaga! and melissa! and it really was best actress for olivia colman and best speech, ever! yes, lots of people saying that. people saying that she should host the oscars, next year, because she gave such a good speech. she certainly warmed the hearts of everybody here with such an honest, open and slightly emotional, but a lovely speech. it's really hit everybody who's watching here at the after party and the people who were in the auditorium for that speech, live.
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talking to some of them as they have arrived here, they really enjoyed that moment. she's really made her mark. and what a surprise win, because everybody thought she would be beaten by glenn close, hollywood legend, who has been nominated seven times, but never won. everybody thought this was her year. but olivia colman has done it. why do you keep looking to your right? in case a star comes out and you're going to grab them? indeed. yes. there are still a few people arriving here. it's gone 1am in the morning and i thought you might like to talk to anybody major if they've arrived. we've seen olivia colman arrive. she went in without talking to anybody, that was a bit of a shame. we've seen lady gaga arrive, eltonjohn is in the party here. it's a busy crowd, lots of stars. it actually looks like some people are starting to leave. it's a busy circuit here, you know, you've got party after party to go to. the celebration will go on for quite a long time into the evening yet. bohemian rhapsody won the most awards, most notably rami malek for best actor. what a moment for him.
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yes, indeed. what a stunning performance and it's certainly been rewarded. everybody thought it was a sure bet for him to win best actor and he's taken it home. we haven't seen him here this evening. but queen really have dominated the evening, they kicked off the award show with a barnstorming performance of some of their classics, a medley of queen songs and they have taken away the most oscars for... although aside from rami malek‘s the best actor prize, some of them are more technical awards, not the biggest awards. best picture went to green book, an interesting choice. we've seen the oscars really shared around quite a lot, no standout major film that swept the board and won everything. there's a lot to talk about, not to reflect on from i think a successful show. people think the academy actually did a decentjob when there were a lot of people worried that tonight could potentially be a bit of an embarrassment. yeah. let's just hear a bit of rami malek‘s speech, when he won.
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i could not be more grateful to each and every one of you, and everyone who believed in me for this moment. it's something i will treasure for the rest of my life. now, the chatter on social media, there is a bit of chatter about rami malek apparently falling off stage, backstage after winning. and also about lady gaga and bradley cooper. yes, two interesting little nuggets that have emerged from this evening. apparently, rami malek did slip and fall, to some degree. we've heard that he had some medical attention, that he did get some treatment. but i've talked to a couple of people who'd seen him after that, backstage at the first after party, and they said he looked fine. so i think he's all right, it's nothing serious at all. the excitement may have just meant that he skipped a few steps or something on the way down off the stage. now, lady gaga and bradley cooper, wasn't that a performance? what a moment, they won best song for shallow from a star is born.
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and there's been a buzz about this town in hollywood that they looked like they got on really well and that they'd enjoyed working together. she's professed every time she's won how much she loves bradley cooper and how much she's enjoyed working with him. and there was a moment when their eyes really locked at the end of that performance, that set a few rumours running, a few people are interested in talking about that and seeing if that's got potential of leading anywhere. of course, both in relationships, i think. lady gaga is here, though, although she didn't speak to anybody on the way in, i've seen her. as far as i know, she's still in the vanity fair after party, whereas there's been no sign of bradley cooper. so they must be at least doing their own thing. sex education will be mandatory for all secondary school pupils from next year and all primary school children will be taught about relationships, keeping safe on the internet and looking after their own mental health. it's the first change to government guideleines on sex education in two decades. this is a big consultation with pa rents, this is a big consultation with parents, expert organisations and
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schools about making relationships education in primary relationships and sex education in secondary and health education in both universal through schools. most schools to aspects of this already. but we are updating the guidance, it's almost 20 years since sex education guidance was last updated injena, the world has changed a lot in that period of time, not least with the internet. so it's good we are updating that today. secondary school pupils will be taught about the risks of sharing private photos and the impact of viewing explicit or harmful content on the internet, as well as grooming, female genital mutilation (fgm), forced marriage and domestic abuse. today's announcement comes on the day mps will debate a petition by parents who say they should still be able to remove their children from sex education classes if they choose. from next year, the new plans say parents only have that right up until the age of 16.
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lucy emerson is the director of the sex education forum. she welcomes the introduction of compulsory relationships education saying schools and parents need to work together. izzy montague is a mum from croydon. she challenged her child's school over a ‘pride' event all pupils were expected to be involved in. she says it should be a parent's choice whether to teach children about lgbt issues. thank you both forjoining us. lucy, briefly, and relationships education for primary schoolchildren, what will they learn? it's learning about yourfamily, who will they learn? it's learning about your family, who cares for you, about friendships, believing, staying safe online, what a healthy relationship really looks like and how to get help of something is wrong. and in secondary school, relationships and sex education? building on those foundations and primary, learning more about intimate relationships and the broader aspect of sexual health so
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as the child develops, going step—by—step with them. as the child develops, going step-by-step with them. izzy, what do you think of this?” step-by-step with them. izzy, what do you think of this? i think on the broad—scale it sounds perfectly fine however i think the idea of teaching children anything about relationships isn't down to the school. we shouldn't be using resources for schools to do this. on what grounds? what would you say, lucy? we really need parents to be involved at home, i really hope you are taking that on and educating children at home is so important. children want to learn from parents and from school and they learn something a bit different from each. ina something a bit different from each. in a school environment children are having relationships, friendships, a school is a place where there are relationships live all the time and schools need to provide guidance and needs to be consistent so if a child needs to be consistent so if a child needs help at an early age they know it's safe and they can do so.” understand but how is it any
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different to what is already in place at the moment? why does it need to change? when we asked children and young people they say there are massive gaps in their education and what they have learnt has been too little too late. and actually children are leaving primary school not able to identify behaviour that is abusive and that knowing who to turn to for help. that is leaving children at risk for mental health, physical well—being and safety as well. because we don't know which child might be at risk, every child needs to get that education and they also need every pa rent to education and they also need every parent to be involved but u nfortu nately, parent to be involved but unfortunately, in reality, many pa rents a re unfortunately, in reality, many parents are not having open and honest conversations with their children about relationships or any other aspect of sex are growing up. is your issue in particular about children being taught about or discussing in lessons same—sex relationships? exactly. i have a problem with the biased agenda that goes to say that things are normal when different cultures, different
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beliefs do not entirely believe it is right or normal. we have to not because division in the circumstances and stick to the facts. facts are when we deal with safety, crime rates or death rates, those are the things we need to be engineering towards but finished comes to cases of sexual abuse, gender reassignment and sexual orientation, that is what we should be clear on, not channelling what your opinions are about it to other people children. schools will be required to teach about the law, about equality and about respect, this is all about unifying the society. i think every child needs to be able to respect other children and to be respected by other children in their school environment. and in wider society. it is actually a unifying process and again do you accept that?
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no, i don't. and again do you accept that? no, idon't. i and again do you accept that? no, i don't. i have been told that many times, the idea of respect should be respect for everybody. why are you targeting different relationships, will you ever touch oi'i relationships, will you ever touch on polygamy for instance, will you touch on islamic teachings about having wives or you know, the kind of relationship is a certain relationships? if it's certain relationships? if it's certain relationships that makes it an agenda for you to normalise only certain peoples relationships. this tweet backs you up, a primary school teacher and an mrd muslim, he says forcing relationship education and young children is not in the best interests of children at that age. some are learning to speak. and take turns and share. this viewer says yet again we are taking away the job of parenting from the parents and putting even more pressure on
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teachers. we need to train the pa rents teachers. we need to train the parents so that they can do their job. amanda says yes, yes, yes, we should have relationship and sex education in primary and secondary schools because so many kids do not haveit schools because so many kids do not have it at home. teach our kids positive relationships. this is a long overdue overhaul and just is really cross, saying having four—year—olds knowing about relationships is appalling and disgusting. leave them alone. what do you say, lucy? children know about relationships, they are around them all the time, they are copying and learning what is modelled to them on the tv, the internet, the people they live with and the people outside in the street. we cannot say children will not learn about relationships, they have already learned. the proposal here is to provide some consistency to get teachers trained to provide that unifying voice so that children learn to tolerate and respect, no where to get help when they needed andi where to get help when they needed and i say to parents, ask to see what the school providing, often
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it's based on fear or misunderstanding, when parents see the material they are not what you would expect. where you have the proof, parents are already doing this in line with what they believe, why is education or making it compulsory? i would appreciate what you are saying if you had a choice, if you were working with parents, so they could go home and teach it to their children but the fact you are taking the parents rights away to be able to teach this makes it an agenda. you use taxpayers money to funnel certain ideology of what is normal and what isn't, that makes it an agenda. you do not have the right to tell my children what kind of relationships are healthy. izzy, what will you do when this comes in from next year, what will you do in terms of your own child?” from next year, what will you do in terms of your own child? i mean, my child goes to a faith school and i
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have spoken to the school that my child's attendance at great lengths and they work with parents to see what can be done but if it is something like i say, an agenda, i would have to remove my children and what would you do to me then? what would be the legal implications to a pa re nt would be the legal implications to a parent like me, will you come to my home and arrest me, if i decided to home—school my child would you look at everything we are teaching? why are so many at everything we are teaching? why are so many people you know, so full in supporting the idea is that people can take parents rights away? there are more pressing issues going on, where! there are more pressing issues going on, where i live, gang crimes, drugs, why is this not something that public money is being used? why are you making it compulsory for things like this, i don't understand. vaccinations are anything? how many parents do not vaccinate their children, why are you not making that compulsory?
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figures show that children are dying but you want to make this compulsory, for there are no figures, facts, no studies. thank you so much for talking to us. and lucy, thank you. nhs england and food standards scotland have issued fresh warnings about lethal diet pills containing the chemical dnp. the substance, which is supposed to be used as an industrial chemical in pesticides and explosives and is not suitable for human consumption, is contained in pills and is not suitable for human burning food supplements. dnp has been linked to the deaths of 26 people in the uk since 2007. we can speak to doug shipsey, the father of beth shipsey, who died after taking pills
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containing dnp in 2017, prof ashok soni is president at royal pharmaceutical society, and in aberdeen ron mcnaughton, a former police officer who is the head of the scottish food crime and incidents unit. thank you all for coming on the programme, we appreciate your time and patience. doug, we have spoken before, for those in the audience who do not know what happened to your daughter, tell them what happened to beth. beth unbeknown to us but the so—called diet pills from the internet. we did not know what they were at the time, we had never heard of this and she took an overdose of them and she died in a very short quite horrific manner, to be quite frank. and that set us on a journey which is now two years hence, trying to understand how such a lethally toxic substance could be
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simply allowed to be bought and sold over the internet. what does the chemical actually due to a body?m increases the metabolic rate to a point that the body cannot withstand it any more to the point of cardiovascular collapse. they have a heart attack and die and there is no known antidote for it, although there are supportive treatments to try and sustain the body. but the problem is there is not enough front line medics who know about this so they do not really, you know, and i com pletely they do not really, you know, and i completely understand, who could realise there would be such a toxic substance coming through the accident and emergency doors, never mind a letterbox? how dangerous is it? extremely. they collect diet pills, and i think that's a really bad thing because this is explosive.
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this is a fertiliser, there is no indication for this for human health in any shape or form whatsoever. and any attempt to try and say that there is a role for this in health is completely at odds with the reality. and we really need to stop it, it's so sad we are having this conversation. ron, phi is it banned outright? the home office tell us it's an extremely dangerous substance which if consumed can lead to, or death and supplying these products for human consumption is illegal. that's correct, it is illegal. that's correct, it is illegal to supply it for human consumption, it has other legitimate uses as have already been discussed. i think the important thing for me is to get the message across that dnp is not safe for human consumption under any circumstances whatsoever. and we really need to raise awareness around that fact to consumers. what are you doing to try
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and make sure people who might think they are buying a harmless food supplement but end up with a chemical dell make deadly chemical. we have to raise awareness, that's the first thing. we will act on any information we receive in relation to the legal supply of dnp and i would urge anyone who has any information to contact us on the scottish food crime helpline which is zero 800 or to access the online form. we will act on that as we have done previously but the big thing for me, this cannot go on and we have to raise awareness. it's not safe under any circumstances. to ta ke safe under any circumstances. to take this. who do you hold responsible for the death of your daughter? having studied this during the past two years, not knowing who controlled what and what aspect as far as its sale, i learnt it was an
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explosive, i've learnt it is a poison. i've learnt through trial and error that we are back to the home office who is responsible for controlling this because there is existing legislation around this that could be utilised and there is a lot of wrong messages going out there in my opinion. the government departments and their agencies have all been saying it's not illegal. because it has legitimate industrial uses, that's factually incorrect, it is illegal unless you apply for and are awarded a licence and a certificate like a driving licence. similarto certificate like a driving licence. similar to the legislation that was applied to sulphuric acid for its use in attacks. so what action are you considering taking against the home office? to our knowledge, the home office? to our knowledge, the home office? to our knowledge, the home office have legislation
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controlling over dnp but they have failed to apply them. with the action group that is formed, we have become angry and we are considering depending on what the human rights commission will say to us, taking legal action against the government about this. for the food standards agency arguing what? they should have controlled, ta ken agency arguing what? they should have controlled, taken it from the internet. is it not unrealistic to think that the home office can regulate the internet? you don't find tmt or semtex and dnp is in the same explosive category as those substances. and there are algorithms on search engines that are banned, they need to mirror that with dnp. but they should not be saying, or giving the wrong perception, this is a foodstuff. by asking the food standards agency to controller because it is not a food and it has no standards. i repeat what they tell us, it's an extremely dangerous
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substance which if consumed can be toa substance which if consumed can be to a coma or death, they could not be clearer. supplying dnp for human consumption is illegal. for human consumption is illegal. for human consumption but it's available on the internet, sellers are selling it, they are not saying this for human consumption, they are selling it in powderform, you know, they are changing theirgame, it in powderform, you know, they are changing their game, these illicit sellers on the internet to get away from the pills. of course they are, that's what they do. is it, do you think it's possible to regulate this, briefly?” it, do you think it's possible to regulate this, briefly? ithink it's very difficult, i think there are ways it can be done we would absolutely support it, if there are ways we can support people getting access to this it must happen because this is really dangerous. we also need to make it really clear as has already been said, make it clear to people this is not a quick fix to help you to lose weight. it will not work. you need to speak to someone, if you are looking at that and read about your image, there are other concerns, about your image, there are other concerns, come and talk to a health
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professional, you might find that difficult but you need to talk to someone, your parents, so actually you seek some advice rather than going down this route which yes, you think it's going to help you to lose weight and feel better, actually, it will kill you and that is the strong message we need to get across. thank you all for coming on the programme. we appreciated. thanks for your company. bbc newsroom life is next. we are back tomorrow 10am. by buy. plenty of sunshine out there at the moment, that's the scene from one of the weather watchers in essex. a scene replicated across england and
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wales. still some fog lingering in the north—east of england around the vale of york, down to the south—east of wales. much of england and wales bathed in sunshine, cloud for scotla nd bathed in sunshine, cloud for scotland and northern ireland, rain moving north across scotland, maximum temperatures this afternoon about 14—18d. one or two spots reaching 19 degrees. this evening turning quite chilly quite quickly. temperatures dropping close to freezing on one or two spots. they could be patchy fog around the south, as we go through tuesday, chilly start, plenty of sunshine as we get into the afternoon. temperatures once again climbing, reaching 14—18d. goodbye.
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you re watching bbc newsroom live ? it's11.00am and these are the main stories this morning: a clear favourite at the oscars: olivia colman takes everyone by surprise by winning the best actress. this is hilarious! laughter. i've got an oscar! um... dear dolores. green book, about the african—american pianist don shirley, took the coveted best picture award, and also picked up two other oscars. theresa may faces growing pressure to say she will delay brexit, as she holds talks with eu leaders at a summit in egypt. children as young as four will be taught about relationships and sex education will be compulsory for all secondary schools from next year.
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