tv Inside Out West BBC News March 3, 2019 4:30pm-5:01pm GMT
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hello. our weekend comes to a stormy end across england and wales, as freya comes in from the atlantic civil war have reached, bringing widespread gales in his words, the "last chance saloon". and in some areas gusts in excess of 75 mph. we‘ve watched this low the dutch husband of shamima begum, deepening on the satellite. the teenager who has been stripped of her british citizenship now pushing through the irish sea forjoining the islamic state group, and it will eventually track tells the bbc he wants them into the north sea by the time to live in the netherlands. we get into monday morning. it was acceptable for you to marry for areas around the periphery a 15—year—old girl? it is going to be a stormy night. it was her own choice. the south—west of england and wales will bear the brunt of the way in through the evening, she was the one who asked to look especially around the coasts, and the wind strengthening late for a partnerfor her. then i was invited, and... evening and overnight yeah, she was — she was very young. in the midlands, east anglia and northern england. very gusty by the end of the night on the lincolnshire coast eight lawyers who back brexit — and north of east anglia. seven of them mps — set out the concessions they require the heart of the storm from the eu to support is in the north sea. the pm's brexit deal. much quieter by the time the rush—hour arrives. heavy rain on the tail the hatch is open — america's new astronaut capsule end of the low. makes its test flight this frontal system here meaning quite a wash—out over southern england on monday. to the international space station.
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it will pull away from the south—east quickly so there will be some sunshine to follow. staying windy behind the low in the north—east and david beckham has been through the day but eastern areas honoured with a statue outside his former gets decent sunshine. in the west, some heavy showers, may be thundery. feeling chilly, football club la galaxy. high—temperature is 9—11. low pressure is staying with us this week. now on bbc news — a special unsettled weather. programme reflecting on the shocking events which gripped gloucester — and the world — 25 years ago on tuesday we‘re going to see quite when fred west confessed a few showers coming together, to murdering his daughter heather. this inside out programme perhaps longer spells of rain was first shown in the west of england last monday. in northern ireland and england and southern scotland, perhaps even some snow with cold air to the north of the uk. by the end of the day, thicker cloud in the south—west, rain pushing in here and into wales. it's hard to believe what happened here. looking to the atlantic the ‘house of horrors‘ for the next low which will come in on wednesday. was bulldozed a long time ago, wet and windy affecting all areas at some stage. but where i'm standing now was once maybe even something more the home of fred and rose west, wintry as the low bumps into the cold air over scotland, the serial killers who were especially higher ground.
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some brighter skies further south hiding in plain sight. and their depraved crimes came but also heavy showers. a bit more mild by wednesday, highs to light 25 years ago today. of 13 or 11! but chilly in scotland. the first thing i experienced was murderous rage, so i realise there is the week ahead, staying unsettled, wednesday looks that this is the beginning like the wettest and windiest day, and a chillier theme over the coming days. of my journey towards forgiveness. tonight, we hear from marian partington, whose sister lucy was killed by the couple. i think that feeling of grief and anger and sadness penetrated into the whole city. this is bbc news. i think the city was deeply traumatised. and we'll be asking — i‘m rebecca jones. the headlines at has the city of gloucester and its people come to terms with the horrors that emerged 5pm. police name 17—year—old a quarter of a century ago? yousef ghaleb makki as the teenager who was stabbed to death near altrincham last night. in the "last chance saloon", a warning about the yemen peace process from the the foreign secretary. the husband of islamic state bride, shamima begum, tells the bbc he wants them to live in the netherlands.
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it was acceptable for you to marry a 15—year—old girl? it was acceptable for you to marry a 15-year-old girl? she was the one who asked to look for a partner for back in the early 1990s, gloucester was a typical provincial city. her. then i was invited, and... but on the 25th of february 1994, everything changed as builder yeah, she was very young. fred west, who lived at 25 eight brexiteer lawyers, cromwell street, confessed to including seven mps, the murder of his daughter, heather. set out their demands from the eu, in order to support he dismembered and buried her in the garden of the family home. it sent tremors through the local community. but it was just the start of a series of discoveries that would shock the world. bbc radio gloucestershire reporter alan warcroft was one of the first
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journalists on the scene. that's the one that always sticks in my mind because she looks so innocent and beautiful here. that first day you went to 25 cromwell street, you didn't know the extent of it. what was your first visit like? the initial thing was the whereabouts of the wests‘ daughter, heather. i went down there to interview one of the police officers, detective inspector terry moore. we've become increasingly aware that she's been a missing person, and so as a result of that, we've carried out enquiries to try and locate her. we were stood in the back garden, doing this interview with it raining quite a little bit, neither of us knowing that where we stood on the patio was where eventually remains of heather west would be found. that evening, fred west told police that he had killed heather and a young newspaper reporter
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called chris summers from the gloucester citizen picked up the story. rumours started coming out from our distribution people, you know, who'd been delivering the paper. "did you realise that they're digging up the back garden of a housing cromwell street?" we thought, that's a bit unusual. why are doing that? from what we gathered from the people we spoke to in cromwell street, they were, to all respects, outwardly, a normal couple. decent, nice fellow. very, very nice. i can't believe fred's in it at all. he's still a good mate of mine as far as i'm concerned. he's an excellent bloke. no—one would ever have thought that what that house where they lived, 25 cromwell street, actually contained such horrors. the latest! today, heather's father, 52—year—old frederick west, appeared in court, charged with killing her some time between may 28th 1987 and february 27th this year.
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today, the search of the house and garden continued, although detectives refused to say what they were looking for. as it began to unfold, and you then found that you were talking about one set of remains, two sets of remains, three sets of remains, four, itjust grew and grew and grew. it was a pretty exciting time to be a journalist. you got sort of fleet street's finest coming down, you've got the sun, the telegraph, daily mail, the mirror, bbc were there, sky, trucks sort of started turning up. so you sort of realised, wow, we're in a national story here. over the course of the next two weeks, the remains of heather and eight other young women were recovered from 25 cromwell street. the police search expanded to two other locations — the wests‘ former home at 25 midland road where the body of fred‘s 8—year—old stepdaughter charmaine was found, and then, onto two fields
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near the herefordshire village of much marcle, where he‘d spent his early life. i used to live in much marcle, a couple of miles away from the two fields that were investigated for remains. i used to go to the 5—bar gate and sit on this gate, looking across this field, and then all these years later, i‘m walking across that same route to go to one of the big tents where they were digging to try and find the remains of rena costello. rena costello was fred west‘s first wife, charmaine‘s mother. her remains were found by police digging near much marcle with another victim, anne mcfall discovered nearby. to stand there and think that somebody has actually come up here and disposed of two sets of remains, it was chilling. were you close with your brother? well, yeah, we were always close, but, i mean, we didn't live in one another's pockets.
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it was particularly hard for the west family, wasn‘t it, who still lived at much marcle? you‘ve still got doug west living in the village, and we spoke on several occasions. i‘d known doug from some years before as well. i think you had to feel somewhat sorry that they were being put into this predicament, this situation, that an element of their family had been carrying out such horrendous crimes. as far as i knew, that he wasjust the same as us, a happy family man. you see it on plays and television, and it goes on and on, and you think, well, that could never happen in real life. but it has. by the middle ofjune, the body count had reached 12, and fred and rose west were being held in custody while the police and crown prosecution service prepared the cases for trial.
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covered up. blankets! blankets. blankets! i tell you what... oh, dear! but for fred, that trial never happen. i was the duty reporter in the citizen and it was on a sunday, i remember seeing that fred west had been found dead. the body of gloucester builder fred west was found in his cell at winson green prison in birmingham where he was on remand, charged with 12 murders. i went and knocked on the front door of doug west‘s. he was me brother and i used to always remember him as he was. ijust remember feeling quite cheated. you know, we were — i don't know if the right word is looking forward to, but we were sort of looking forward to him going on trial. we wanted to see him pay the penalty.
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fred had avoided the courtroom. but in november 1995, the media circus swapped gloucester for winchester, where a jury would decide the fate of rose west. she wasn‘t a particularly emotional character, she was quite a dumpy, frumpy sort of looking woman with a very sort of sensible haircut and these unfashionable glasses. if you saw her in the street, you wouldn‘t imagine for a moment that she was capable of some of the crimes. she looked like she‘d be down at the bingo or somewhere. a recording of one of the police interviews with fred west was played to the court, the defence team hoping that hearing him describe the murder of his daughter heather would convince the jury that he was the only guilty party. he just came out in this real country accent.
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he was just so matter of fact when he was describing, you know, killing her and burying her under the windy house in his back garden. he could‘ve been sort of describing how he built a garden shed or whatever. it was amazing. from the evidence, mr leveson told the jury, "you can and ought to conclude that rosemary west intended that each of these girls should die, or at the very least, should suffer serious bodily harm." in that context, in each case, she is guilty of murder. and after a 31—day trial, the jury agreed that rose west was guilty as charged. on bbc one now, the 9:00 news with michael buerk. rosemary west has been convicted of ten of the most horrific murders in british criminal history.
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"you will never be released," the judge said, "if attention is paid to what i think." i remember one of my colleagues from gloucester who came down right at the end of the trial to cover the verdict — he had nightmares that rose west was coming after him. counselling was offered because we were able to get glimpses of some of the pictures that had been taken inside 25 cromwell street, and everyone just said that it was part and parcel of our work, let's make sure we do a good job. obviously, it was a big part of your professional life. do you still think about it now, and what crosses your mind? yeah, i do wonder about their children in particular and i‘ve often wondered what happened to them and i do hope that they somehow managed to have sort of happy lives.
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lucy partington was a young woman with a promising future. she was 21 and in herfinal year at exeter university. but then she disappeared during the christmas holidays in 1973. for two decades, herfamily had no idea of her whereabouts until the police discovered her remains at 25 cromwell street. lucy‘s sister marian has been on an extraordinaryjourney to come to terms with what happened. it was the 27th of december, so it was just two days after christmas, and we all went out that evening to different places — lucy went to visit her friend helen, i was with my boyfriend patrick and we went to visit friends and we actually stayed the night there.
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and when we came back the next day, my mum sort of rushed out of the house and she said, "lucy didn‘t come home last night." my mum had presumed she‘d got the last bus home and gone to bed, as she would‘ve done, and then she‘d gone to wake her up the next morning and she wasn‘t there. none of us could think as the police actually thought when we first told them, oh, you know, just a young person, you know, gone off with her boyfriend for the night, you know. and we knew that lucy wouldn‘t put us in that situation. we all felt that something huge had happened, but i could never imagine that she‘d been killed.
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we grew up in the cotswolds. i was the bossy older sister and she was the younger sister getting on with her own life. one of her friends at the memorial service we had for her described her as indelible. she made a mark on people, she touched people‘s lives, butjust through her intelligence, really. we were lucky enough to have a pony that lived in a field on ourfriend‘s farm, and one day she went into that field and she walked round the field gathering wool from the hedges, and she brought this wool home and she made a little bag and gave it to me. i still have the bag now. it‘s something tangible about the kind of person lucy was. it feels gentle in its making, it‘s soft, it‘s kindly. she was only eight
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when she made this. she gave it to me as a gesture of love, and when i look at that, i still remember that. i was given this dream and in the dream lucy came back and i said to her, "well, where have you been?" and she said, "i have been sitting in a water meadow." and then she said the words, "if you sit very still you can hear the sun move." over the 20 years of not knowing what happened to her, i didn‘t know she if was dead or alive. but i remember thinking, "well, if this is how she is, it doesn‘t matter if she‘s dead or alive." but it was worse than our worst imaginings. the news was coming on about bodies being dug up in cromwell street. and we already have a sense this
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could be something to do with lucy. and i remember saying my mum, "i think it‘s going to be better to than not to know." and she said, "i‘m not so sure about that." to me, the most difficult thing about her suffering was the fact that she was gagged so she didn‘t have a voice, she couldn‘t speak her words, she couldn‘t use her voice. and i think that compelled me to find my voice. lucy‘s life was sacred and i needed to reclaim her as a person, as my sister, from what happened. and then it came to me that the only way out of this was to move
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towards forgiveness, but i had no idea what that could mean or how that could be possible. but i made a vow to try to tray and forgive the wests. the first thing i experienced was murderous rage. so i realised that this is the beginning of myjourney towards forgiveness. and in that experience i knew that i was capable of killing. i have details about rosemary west‘s childhood, the violence in the families, the neglect, the abuse, and trying to imagine, you know, what it would be like to grow up with very little love. i can‘t see how there can be any cruel actions that haven‘t got a root in something else, something that has happened in somebody‘s life. but then people will always say that that‘s not an excuse.
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i say very clearly, i don‘t forgive the wests for what they did, but i forgive them as people for whom there didn‘t seem to be another way of living. in 2004, i was invited to contribute to the forgiveness project, which is by marina cantacuzino. marina‘s a journalist and she was collecting stories that might be inspiring to other people and bring hope. lovely to see you. when you described how you saw rosemary west in court, the broken spirit, because of what had happened to her, and how you were able to have a connection with that, it makes sense. it is not about giving the act, but it's about forgiving, in a way, the frailty and fallibility
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of humanity, of which are rosemary west is a part. and i've understood that. and i've understood how part of your restoration and healing has been able to find meaning in something which has been so utterly senseless. this crime had never been really addressed within this community. there was no memorial, no honouring of the people who died. there was just the, really, sticky story of the wests‘ lives that was picked up by tabloid newspapers. there must be a lot of unresolved, unspoken experience in the community of gloucester. but then you get to this whole question of whether it‘s better to say less, soonest mended, or whether it‘s better to speak? and that‘s a very big question that i have asked myself a lot.
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yes. what happens to the individual also happens to be community. it‘s 35 years since the first bodies were dug up in the garden of 25 cromwell street and, over that time, the way that i have found forward has been very helpful to me. this may not be helpful to anyone else. but my experience with the forgiveness project is that it is — the saddest, most painful thing is to carry an untold story. lucy‘s body was hidden for so long, i felt like whatever i did with the rest of my life it could not be about hiding things, because ijust knew how unhealthy that was. is gloucester carrying an untold
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story, and how does a community come to terms with events as sinister as these? well, i‘ve brought together a group of people to talk about how this city has dealt with its uncomfortable past. tony butler was gloucestershire‘s chief constable during the fred and rose west investigation. canon adrian slade, from the diocese of gloucester, worked with the local community in the aftermath of the crimes. benedict allen is born and bred in the city and is a student at the university of gloucestershire. and damejanet trotter is a former lord—lieutenant of the county. damejanet, should there be a memorial for the victims of fred and rose west? there is the physical bit. so what do you do in this place where unspeakable horror has taken place? here they totally knocked the house down. they‘ve made some gardens.
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and, isuppose, i had rather thought there might be something else that might have been more a statement of healing, of what this was about, and a reflection by the city... the city council made a conscious decision, hat there were lots of plans for that area, one of which was a memorial garden, and they decided that they did not want to have a remembrance. they didn‘t want ghoulish tourists. they didn't want ghoulish tourists. and if you go to auschwitz, that's what you get. i thinkjust making a plain walkway is, i think, probably, the best way. if they made it too much of a memorial, i think that could re—traumatise the families of the people. you were working closely with the community at the time, what kind of impact did it have on them? there was a lot of grief, a lot
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of feeling of we should have known, i think a lot of people were anxious that what happened with fred west and rosemary was something they should have been on top of. and i think that feeling of grief and anger and sadness penetrated into the whole city. i think the city was deeply traumatised. it certainly left a mark on the constabulary. because, i think, the nature of the crimes, the brutality of these murders, and the number of them. this was a case of young women — their lives were just snuffed out. it sounds like, at that point, gloucester lost an innocence about it. is that true? the happy couple next door could be the happy murderers? the night that we arrested fred the tv crews were in cromwell street. and i remembered on the points west news, neighbours saying that the police have got this all wrong, fred and rose, lovely family couple, lovely family people. and they clearly weren't. i think the reflection i have on this, and another bit
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of the legacy, is that most of the public services were actually operating in silos. so you got the children going to school, not doing pe because they would have had bruises in various parts of their body, they were turning up at emergency departments, there was police, and none of these came together to share information. and i think one of the really good things is that all of those services, under safeguarding arrangements, are now morejoined up. there were some gaps. but also it's clear, the investigation demonstrated, how clever they were at avoiding it. they took the children to different hospitals. they employed tactics to avoid detection. it was an aberration. let's not blame the city for two people. as dame janet said, we learned some lessons as organisations working to protect children. it's difficult to say it's a better place for it. but i think some good things came out of it.
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it is one of those cases were sadly i think a line can never be drawn under it. people of my sort of age are probably aware of fred and rose west, because most people in gloucester have probably heard of them. but i probably wouldn't say they know much about it. i think gloucester went through a period of mourning. and i think it's got through it. i think it's come out the other side. gloucester is a nice place to be, on the whole. every city‘s got dark shadows. every family‘s got dark shadows, every person‘s got dark shadows. so each of us has responsibility to look out for our children, our community‘s children. and that‘s one of the things all of us must be active in doing. gloucester and 25 cromwell street will forever be associated with fred and rose west. and just like marion partington has done for her sister lucy, the city has had to reclaim an identity for itself beyond those grisly crimes. and 25 years on, that‘s
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