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tv   Victoria Derbyshire  BBC News  March 11, 2019 10:00am-11:01am GMT

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hello, it's monday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. can theresa may survive the week? tomorrow the prime minister is due to put her plan for brexit to the commons again after she suffered a crushing defeat first time around injanuary. how do you want your mp to vote this time around? let me know. china has now grounded all of the country's boeing 737—max 8 passenger jets after that plane crash yesterday in ethiopia, killing all 157 people on board. it comes as the first details of the seven british victims begin to emerge. one is named as un workerjoanna toole. herfather paid tribute. yeah, i'm very proud of what she achieved. it's just tragic that she couldn't carry on to further her career and achieve more.
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and we'll be live at nairobi international airport for the latest. and youtube star and climate change campaignerjack harries — who's due in court this week accused of criminal damage — says he and his fellow extinction rebellion campaigners are prepared to be arrested for their cause. here we are now talking about climate change, so if that's what it takes to elevate the conversation to where it needs to be, then that's something i'm prepared to do. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. how do you want your mp to vote tomorrow in the second vote on mrs may's deal — assuming that vote does go ahead. use the hashtag victorialive. send us an email. here's carrie gracie with the news. china, ethiopia and the cayman
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islands have grounded all boeing's 737 max 8 aircraft after yesterday's crash near addis ababa. all 157 people on board the flight to nairobi were killed, including seven british nationals. it was the second crash involving a max 8 in five months. one of the britons who died in the crash was a 34—year—old aid workerfrom devon. joanna toole was on her way to a united nations climate conference. her father has described her as a warm and loving person who just wanted to help people. a teenage boy has become the second person to be charged with the murder of 17—year—old jodie chesney. jodie was stabbed to death in a park in east london ten days ago. the 15—year—old is due in court later today. number ten has conceded that negotiations with brussels over amending the brexit withdrawal bill are deadlocked on the eve of a crucial parliamentary vote. downing street says talks will continue today but theresa may isn't expected to make a last minute
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trip to brussels. mps are supposed to be getting a second vote on the prime minister's brexit deal tomorrow — but conservative brexiteers have warned that they won't vote for it as it currently stands. a 27—year—old man is due in cout today charged with assaulting aston villa's jack grealish on the pitch during a game. paul mitchell is accused of attacking the player less than 10 minutes into the championship clash at birmingham's st andrew's stadium on sunday afternoon. grealish was able to continue. he even went on to score the winning goal for villa. an american man has claimed to have found a video tape allegedly showing the musician r kelly sexually abusing underage girls. gary dennis told reporters that he handed the tape to authorities after discovering it at his house. r kelly was charged last month with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse involving four alleged victims, three of whom were minors. the r&b artist has denied appearing in the video, and all other charges.
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ronnie 0'sullivan has recorded a snooker landmark. he's become the first player to compile 1,000 career century breaks. have a look at this! 0'sullivan achieved the feat in the final of the players championship in preston. his break of 134 also saw him win the title with a 10—4 victory against australia's neil robertson. it's the storybook ending. that's the latest bbc news. back to victoria. theresa may's brexit deal looks to be in trouble with downing street saying this morning that the talks in brussels are deadlocked. and that also means the questions about mrs may's future as prime minister have resurfaced with former cabinet colleagues nicky morgan and dominic raab talking openly about when, and not if, she will be replaced. the commons is gearing up to vote tomorrow on theresa may's deal for how we leave the european union.
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it will be the second time mps have voted on the prime minister's plan, after it was defeated injanuary by an unprecedented 230 votes. ever since, mrs may has been struggling to get any concessions from the eu in order to satisfy unhappy members of parliament. if she can't get her withdrawal agreement signed off, wednesday will see a vote on leaving with no deal. if that also fails, mps will have a chance to extend article 50 on thursday and thereby delay brexit. there is a handy flow chart for you, a lwa ys there is a handy flow chart for you, always easy to understand. let's speak now to simon clarke, who is a conservative mp, he's pro—brexit and a member of the conservative european research group of mps, led byjacob rees mogg. yasmin qureshi, who is a labour mp and the party's shadowjustice minister. we hope she will be with us in a second. and conservative mp george freeman who is voting for the government's deal and was on theresa may's policy board. good morning to both of you. why
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would she go ahead with this vote tomorrow if it looks like she's going to lose it? it was always clear that to get to a final vote we would have to get to three or four votes. i don't know why we didn't do the first one in december and the second in january. the first one in december and the second injanuary. ifear the first one in december and the second injanuary. i fear she the first one in december and the second injanuary. ifear she has left it very late and we are now in an endgame. it was always clear people would going to vote against for various reasons, i would have donein for various reasons, i would have done in december, and in the end get an orderly brexit. i think she will lose tomorrow. so there will be a third vote? i always thought it would take five votes. there isn't time forfive. would take five votes. there isn't time for five. i fear they have wasted too much time and i worry now that colleagues like simon will vote against in the hope of a better deal but we may end up having to defer and delay and the public mood will deepen. simon, iunderstand
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and delay and the public mood will deepen. simon, i understand that you are unhappy with bits of the backstop, like me, but we have to get withdrawal through and then get on with the future relationship. what are you begging your colleague to do? vote for the deal. most of what you need to fix with the deal can be sorted in the future relationship and if you can't fix the backstop then those problems can't be wished away later so i will vote against in the absence of those changes. is it possible that mrs may could put a version of the deal up for a vote tomorrow which would include the kind of changes that you and others want to see on the backstop, even though she hasn't secured those changes yet. that is still what she is trying to get the eu to agree to in the hope that people like yourself will vote for it and that puts pressure on brussels to agree. that's not the current plan as we understand it. i'm in the business of delivering solutions. i want to leave the european union with a good deal and if that is the plan it would need serious consideration. i think the
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commons vote on hypotheticals is challenging in practice. commons vote on hypotheticals is challenging in practicelj completely agree with that but if that's what number ten and the prime minister think will help get europe on over the line then i would vote for it. how different is that to the so—called brady amendment to the other week were enough people said, if you get changed to the backstop we will go for it. at this point i think we need to focus european mines. it is in everyone's interest. there is desire across the continent and in britain to get a good deal.|j would harden up on them. simon might think no deal is an acceptable option but i don't. if you are not prepared to give us some reasonable concessions on the backstop, that includes, it will not be triggered unnecessarily, be reasonably exercised and will not be triggered... i would join efta, drop out of the backstop completely. that
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would terrify europe. i would be ha rd would terrify europe. i would be hard with them and say, it's a minor concession to get this deal three, which i don't much... withdrawal. 0r be very careful, europe. i think they are playing games and that we will check in and end up having a second referendum. this was the british government's negotiating position, what we suggested on the backstop, but they are playing games? i think they have been told by nick clegg and tony blair to take as long as they can because britain will eventually go for a second referendum and they have totally misjudged the mood.|j referendum and they have totally misjudged the mood. i think he is right. the alternative to efta is malthouse plan b. that's a transition agreement where we would pay for a standstill agreement until we had such a time where we had to the future agreements negotiated. that could be years. it could be until 2021 at the maximum. it has to
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be resolved before the next general election. the last two and a half yea rs election. the last two and a half years would suggest we might understand why it might take longer than another two years to negotiate a future trading relationship. it will not be done in two years. half my voters think this was done in june of 2016. this is a big test for oui’ june of 2016. this is a big test for our politics and the political class. a lot of people are saying what they are against but not what they are for. the deal isn't perfect, life isn't perfect, but i'm begging colleagues to vote for it, so we can begging colleagues to vote for it, so we can at least say we have done the withdrawal agreement and then get on to the future agreement. the withdrawal agreement and then get on to the future agreementm mrs may's deal is put before you tomorrow and is rejected a second time, can she survive a second defeat? the short answer is, that is for the prime minister to assess. not necessarily, there could be cabinet ministers who speak to her and say it's time to go. cabinet ministers who speak to her and say it's time to golj cabinet ministers who speak to her and say it's time to go. i think some have behaved very badly in
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denying us negotiating leverage. you haven't had the vote on whether to go for that yet. data facto have by getting the vote moved to this week. the short answer is she can survive but in everyone cosmic mind, if do extend and if we find ourselves in that unhappy situation later this week, for what purpose and who is best placed to lead the process? the ball is in her court at that point. is there someone better?” ball is in her court at that point. is there someone better? i have always ta ken the is there someone better? i have always taken the view, and i voted for no confidence in december, it would be better to have the process led by a lever. —— would be better to have the process led bya lever. —— a would be better to have the process led by a lever. —— a leaver. but the process will not rest with anyone but herself. kt text to say, the people voted to leave, for heaven's sake just leave and sort the problems out as we go ahead. another
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viewer says to go for no deal and the billions we save can go back into reinvesting in business in the uk. mike says she thinks it will be a total shambles and he doubts whether he will vote in a referendum again. he is a remainer and whether he will vote in a referendum again. he is a remainerand he thinks brexit will be a disaster. young people will think, what the (bleep) have older people done to oui’ (bleep) have older people done to our future. if this vote goes ahead tomorrow and there are no significant changes in the next 2a hours, you will vote against it? absolutely right. we have said clearly that we will vote against her withdrawal agreement. what is the labour priority after that? we set out our priority ages ago, which is that any deal we wanted would mean access to the customs union, access to the single market. that is unrealistic at this point. what would be your priority if mrs may loses tomorrow night? jeremy has
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repeatedly asked, a number of times, for the prime minister to rule out a brexit without a deal, and that has to be our priority. if that vote comes on wednesday, given the opportunity to say whether you want britain to leave... to rule out no deal, you would vote for that to happen? as i understand, the labour party has clearly said that any vote on leaving without a deal is something that is unacceptable to us. something that is unacceptable to us. it's something thatjeremy has asked a number of times the prime minister to repeatedly give assurances and she has refused to do so. assurances and she has refused to do so. simon clark, if that happens there is a majority that say on wednesday, mps saying we can't leave with no deal, you risk losing brexit. i don't think that's true. in practice it is hard to prevent no deal, even if the commons votes for it on wednesday. it is in law, on
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the statute books that we leave, according to withdrawal act that we did last year. the only way you can actually stop no deal is article 50 revocation. despite the protest of remaining mps it's difficult to achieve. or you pass a law in parliament to change the withdrawal act, and that is quite a big undertaking. i think the numbers in parliament would be very difficult to make add up. in the end, people who try to stop brexit will have to do so in the full light of day, in votes in the house of commons. the time for behind—the—scenes manoeuvring to try to prevent brexit is in essence at an end because now the choices are very stark and i think that's helpful. i think the danger of this conversation is that binary position that simon suggests, people are either fully pro brexit 01’ people are either fully pro brexit or totally against. i would argue there are at least 200 people in my party who are reconciled to brexit, except we have to leave the european
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political union, but most of my leave voters have said to me they wa nt to leave voters have said to me they want to be in the common market but not a political unit. i don't think this is a mandate for an arron banks 01’ this is a mandate for an arron banks or ukip brexit. i'm suggesting we need to be outside the customs union. the backstop in essence is a route to a customs union and the customs union is not leaving. i would sign up to a good deal, a clean brexit, any day of the week, but that's not on the deal at the moment. i don't want a customs union but i think no deal is a true brexit thatis but i think no deal is a true brexit that is whipping up a lot of public support, tojust that is whipping up a lot of public support, to just leave and that is whipping up a lot of public support, tojust leave and it that is whipping up a lot of public support, to just leave and it will be good for us. it will not be good for us, and politically i worry it will be the death of the conservative party ‘s status as a party of business and of competence. it would also be devastating if we don't leave for the conservatives and the labour party. in a hung parliament, the responsibility rests
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with labour mps parliament, the responsibility rests with labourmps in parliament, the responsibility rests with labour mps in leave voting seats, do they respect what their constituents voted for? there is a majority to leave. 100 labour mps wa nt to majority to leave. 100 labour mps want to leave. jeremy corbyn campaigns asa want to leave. jeremy corbyn campaigns as a brexiteer up north and a remainer down south. what do you say to labour mps who are considering voting for theresa may's deal last —— much as they did last time. you have some mps in your party who will consider voting for theresa may's deal tomorrow. what would you say to them?|j theresa may's deal tomorrow. what would you say to them? i would say to them, no. each individual mp will have to make their own decision at the end of the day and there are certain mpsi the end of the day and there are certain mp5 i know have said they will vote her deal. iwould certain mp5 i know have said they will vote her deal. i would say not to because actually, as her own previous brexit secretary stated, david davis said yesterday very clearly that actually the withdrawal
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agreement that mrs may has put is far worse than anything. he has suggested it's better to remain then vote for this withdrawal agreement, and this was a man who was negotiating this. the one thing about the backstop, and again it is something david davis put in. if we got the backstop right, it's fundamental in the fact we need to keep the island of ireland together. i would urge my colleagues, not to support her, but in the end i suppose the individual members of parliament will make their own decision. but i hope they will support the party. i've never heard a corbynite to use the cause of unionism! i wish people would stop
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making silly political points. it's not silly. we are discussing something proper here. it's important there isn't a hard border between northern ireland and the republic. you don't need one. the backstop is absolutely not the right way to achieve this. it's been totally misrepresented. you can achieve a soft border on the island of ireland through a trusted trader scheme for travellers and checks miles from the border. it's a complete european concept. members of the european research group seem to think it's possible but no one else does. that's not really fair. people like nicky morgan have come to accept that we can have a sensible soft border. vivian e-mails to say i want my mp to vote against their withdrawal agreement tomorrow and to vote for no deal. if that vote goes ahead. don't let it remain at mps kill our country. a text says that if it is voted down tomorrow then theresa may should hand over to a strong brexiteer. another text, i
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wa nt a strong brexiteer. another text, i want my mp to vote for the deal and get it sorted. 0ne want my mp to vote for the deal and get it sorted. one more, i want my mp to reject this awful deal, a no deal exit and then extend article 50 while we sort out this terrible mess. thank you all of you for coming on the programme. still to come... as pressure mounts on boeing over the ethiopian airlines plane crash, we'll be live with our correspondent in the region. all 157 people on board died — seven of them were british. hundreds of council—run nursery schools could have their funding reduced next year nursery heads are warning. today they're marching on downing street, urging the government to invest in the nurseries which they say support some of britain's poorest children. youtube starjack harries will appear in court this week after he protested outside an international petroleum conference in london, gluing his hands to the door of a hotel. he and eight others from a climate change group called
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extinction rebellion were arrested for aggravated trespass and criminal damage. jack harries, who's 25, became well known through the youtube channel he started with his twin brother called jacksgap which has nearly 4 million subscribers. extinction rebellion was started at the end of 2018 with the aim they say of driving radical change through non—violent resistance . i asked jack what motivated him to get involved with the extinction rebellion movement. i work as a documentary film—maker and have spent the last four years making short films for youtube. the first one i made that set me off on the path i am now was a short film where i travelled to greenland to see the effects of glacial retreat with wwf, the world wildlife foundation. and that trip sort of totally opened my eyes to the realities of climate change, obviously a huge issue at the moment. since then i've had the opportunity to travel to somaliland, to cover drought, to the island of kiribati in the south pacific to cover sea—level rise,
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and to put it simply, as a young person, i'm terrified for the state of my future. that's what led me to do the work i'm doing. we are looking at some of your filming now. this is some of the footage you have taken of glaciers melting and so on. why were you specifically protesting the gas and petroleum conference? two weeks ago was the international petroleum conference in london, which is where all the biggest names from the gas and oil industry meet, get together, rubs shoulders and discuss the future of the industry. this is an industry that have consistently put short—term gain and corporate profits over the health of our planet, over my future. we know the temperature is rising in the planet and this is caused by the burning of fossil fuels. the ipcc report states that we have to reduce gas and oil by 20% this year and by 55% by 2050. meanwhile, exxon mobile, for example, has said it will increase gas and oil by 25% in 2025. it's up to governments, isn't it, to make sure those limits and targets are met? sure, it's up to governments, and ceos and leaders of big corporations.
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i think a lot of young people feel that the severity of the issue at hand is not being reflected by government, by policy makers, or by ceos of large corporations, so protesting is a way to make our voices heard. if you think about it, around the world scientists are sounding the alarm bells, that there is an impending crisis, and we are not seeing this reflected in our policy or by ceos who should have the responsibility to be investing in green energy and renewable sources. did you want to get arrested at the protest the other week? not at all. i've never been arrested in my life before. it's never been my intention to get arrested. i don't want a criminal record, i don't want to be caught up in the justice system. ijust got to a point where i thought nothing else will make a difference. i'm scared that i'm not going to have a future, that my kids won't have a future, they won't, certainly not the future that you have enjoyed all the generations before us. so i think a lot of young people feel they have run out of options in order to make their voice heard and that's why i took the action i did.
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this is footage filmed by your partner. one of the founders of extinction rebellion, roger hallam, says that e—mailing, writing letters, going on a march, is no good. we need about 400 people to go to prison, may be 2000, 3000 people to get arrested. you achieved that. you say that wasn't the aim. it wasn't necessarily my aim to get arrested, but here we are now talking about climate change, so if that's what it takes in order to elevate the conversation to where it needs to be, then that's something i'm prepared to do. i didn't enjoy being in a cell for 13 hours. i don't necessarily advocate for other people to go and get arrested, but unfortunately that's what it takes in order to elevate this conversation to where it needs to be. we are talking about a severe issue, drought, forest fires, sea—level rises that will lead to mass migration, poverty and disease. our future is looking apocalyptic, for use of a better word, and we have to have this conversation now and we have to be making change, and it's as though we are sleepwalking into this crisis. and there are many who agree with you, many watching right now
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who will agree with you. 0n the other hand, you are also using up police time and resources, which we know is scarce, when police are stretched at the moment, for all the reasons that we are discussing. i understand that. some people have expressed issues with extinction rebellion's tactics, for getting in the way of people and causing traffic jams and taking up police systems. but the fact of the matter is climate change is going to cause us a lot more inconvenience than that. so i would rather these things happen now and we try to tackle the issues before it becomes a much greater issue and a lot more of a threat to us. so the means to the end is worth it, even if it means taking up valuable police time and resources when they are trying to deal with knife crime and all the other things? we are talking about the end of humanity as we know it. so yes, it's worth it? yes, it's worth it, yeah. i wish it wasn't. i wish that our government would enact change as we have asked for. protesters have been saying the same things for 20 years. my mum was a climate activist and she was going out and doing the same things when i was 13 years old.
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this is something we have been trying to talk about for a long time and nothing is working so we have to up the ante. but the government has brought in targets, is achieving some of those targets and is changing our energy sources to renewable energy sources. it's fading out diesel and petrol cars. stuff is being done, you have to acknowledge that. stuff is being done and i acknowledge that, but it's not being done nearly fast enough. extinction rebellion has three main requests. extinction rebellion is a group of everyday people who are desperately concerned for their future. we are talking teachers, lawyers and scientists, and they have come together to form this group. they have three main requests and one is that the government is just honest about the state of the crisis we are in, which they are not being, not entirely, and the media too. they are not being dishonest, they are not telling lies, are they? well, they are not talking about what we need to do. but that's not being dishonest, is it? it's not giving it as much attention as you would like. sure, but i mean, do you think we're doing everything we can be doing around climate change, in your own opinion? doesn't really matter what i think. you've just said to the government is being dishonest and i'm challenging that. i didn't say they're being dishonest, i'm saying they are not talking about the severity
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of the crisis at hand. you said they are not being honest. they are not being honest about how bad it is and what we should be doing. for example, many people should be adopting a plant—based diet. i don't see our government talking about that. that's absolutely crucial in order to cut carbon emissions. scientists have said we have 12 years left in order to stop an increase of 1.5 degrees, to go no higher than 1.5 celsius. if we go higher than that then we are looking at seriously severe consequences. scientists are telling us this. they are sounding the alarm and we are not doing enough in order to curb those carbon emissions, not nearly, at the moment we are going to overshoot it and that will affect my future and my kids' future. i don't want to be doing this, with all due respect, i don't particularly want to be here. like any other young person i have aspirations for my future, but i feel i may not have a future, which is why i'm taking the actions i am today. why do you think there aren't more of you? i think many people are scared to speak out about the environment crisis for fear of hypocrisy, and i totally understand that. you mean like prince harry was accused of being hypocritical last week, talking to young people about climate change and being kinder to the environment, but then he'd got a helicopter
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from wherever he got a helicopter from. sure. and i travel around in cars, i fly to go to these places to tell my stories. we are all complicit in this argument, but i think we have to move past that and agree we are all totally complicit in this, and we can't point fingers at each other because i think if you have to be a perfect environmentalist in order to have this conversation, then nobody is able to have this conversation and we are not going to get anywhere. i think that's why we have stalled so far up until now. shouldn't you lead by example, though? i am trying to lead by example. personally, i've had a plant—based diet for the last five years. it's something i talk about online. i've never felt better for it. it's helped me cut down my carbon emissions. i've cut down my flights. i only try to travel when it's telling stories about the environment and create change. i've cut down my travel, i cycle as much as i can. so i do try to lead by change. but fundamentally, i think young people around the world are leading by change. they are making drastic changes in their lives, but we are not seeing change from the policy makers and government, and that's who should be setting the example, and ceos of large corporations. more details are emerging of the seven british people who were among the 157 people killed
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after that ethiopian airlines boeing 737 crashed on sunday, minutes after take—off. in response, china and ethiopian airlines have now grounded all planes of the same model. let's talk now to our correspondent larry madowo, who's atjomo kenyatta airport in nairobi. the authorities in kenya are leading the investigation. tell us what more we know about some of the victims. some of the victims are getting identified now from british citizens, of which there we re british citizens, of which there were seven on the aircraft, but also the biggest and most affected country is kenya with 32 victims, 18 canadians and a lot of people from around the world. a global tragedy with people from places like sweden, italy, france, slovakia, togo, nigeria and uganda. some coming here
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to nairobi for a major united nations conference that open today and they only got to fly six minutes from addis ababa before the plane came down. in the last few minutes we have heard from state tv in ethiopia reporting that the black box flight recorder has been found. we are waiting to confirm that but it would be a key discovery in trying to figure out how a four—month—old aircraft came down six minutes into the flight operated by one of the most senior captains working with ethiopian airlines, 8000 hours in the sky and if anyone could have handled this plane it was him. this is the second crash in five months involving a 737 max—8 stop what are boeing saying? they have put out several statements since the accident yesterday. they say safety is their biggest priority and they are working with authorities in ethiopia and the us to figure out and help the investigations into the cause of the air crash. they have sent a team to addis ababa to help with
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investigations. hugejitters for boeing because two accidents in six months doesn't give a lot of confidence for this very popular aeroplane, more than 300 in operation, ethiopia has six of them and had ordered 29 more. as many as 2000 had been ordered around the world. it's important for the public and aviation industry that they are safe to fly. it s the fourth and final week of our sustainability series, where we ve challenged a group of six students to live in a more environmentally friendly way. so far, we ve covered fashion, plastics and food. for ourfinal week, we re looking at our use of energy. how much is britain using? michael cowan reports. energy. it heats our homes, powers our transport
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and floods our cities with light. but as technology has advanced, so has our fuel consumption. the latest data shows in 2017, the world's energy use increased by 2.1%. the average uk home emits around eight tonnes of greenhouse gases every year. that's as heavy as 12 cows. greenhouse gases are the ones that make our planet warmer. in the last three decades, 71% of global greenhouse gas emissions can be traced to just 100 companies. for the first time in the uk, transport has overtaken other types of energy use as the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases. travel by air has risen 60% since the millennium. 85% of brits who do travel abroad now go by plane, which accounts for 34% of the uk's total emissions. in the uk, we travelled 502 billion
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miles cumulatively in 2017, the highest ever recorded. 83% of those journeys were by car, van or taxi. we predominantly use fossil fuels — so, coal, oiland gas. they're the most polluting types and some experts think will run out globally before the end of the century. research by the university of edinburgh found that the uk's supplies of oil and gas could run out by 2027. this means we'll have to import all our fuel. but there are a growing number of alternative options — biofuels. made from plants or waste, they produce less carbon dioxide than coal, oil and gas. they're seen as a good transition fuel, as we move towards renewable energy. nuclear power isn't strictly sustainable because it uses uranium, which is a finite resource. it produces no air pollution or carbon dioxide, meaning it has close to zero emissions, but it does produce radioactive waste. that needs to be stored
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in specialised facilities. it will remain radioactive for thousands of years. renewables will still power our homes and transport, delivering a far lower environmental impact. they include things like solar power. the sun emits 10,000 times more energy than humans use, we just need to harness it. and the technology to do this, like solar panels, is becoming cheaper. wind power emits no c02, but it does have to blow for us to harvest it. geothermal power is made from naturally occurring heat found in underground water reservoirs. they give off low levels of carbon dioxide. and as science works to perfect reliable forms of renewable energy, we, as consumers, need to drastically cut down on the amount of energy we use, but how? and mike is live in our student
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house in loughborough this morning. with a map. yes, good morning. it s the fourth and final week of our student challenge with a giant map of the world and different modes of transport, why? because transport is the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases. and one of the big things we will look at is how we can reduce our transport not just in at is how we can reduce our transport notjust in the uk, but also abroad, more of us are travelling abroad than ever before. it is also about our domestic energy use. the average uk home emits eight tonnes of greenhouse gases every year. so one thing we need to look at is how we can reduce that to have at is how we can reduce that to have afar at is how we can reduce that to have a far greener environmental impact. to answer that, i m joined by dr rosie robison, our sustainable energy expert, from anglia ruskin university. and our six students — helen, will, amy, jay, goby and marcus — who are all going to be taking part
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in this final week's challenge. for the first time ever. rosie, how much of an impact can we as individuals, or households, make when it comes to reducing energy consumption? we have just been hearing about the different sources of where energy can come from so different sources of where energy can come from so one different sources of where energy can come from so one instant action people can take is thinking about switching to a renewable tariff supplier, very competitive these days. the other really important thing to think about is when it comes to home energy use, about three quarters of our energy goes on the heating, so thinking about when we heat, how we heat and crucially, how we keep heat within home once we have put it in is really important. you guys know better than anyone else about what rosie was saying because for the last two months, you have had to cut your energy supplies to cut down on cost, how difficult has that been? it has been really hard, to be fair, i wake up in the morning and my room will be actually freezing! i feel like a timer might bea freezing! i feel like a timer might be a good investment, though, to set it up so it is warmer in the morning
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when we wake up. do you find yourself using blankets to combat the cold? yes, but blankets don't help! i have a duvet and a blanket at the same time. the three of you are wearing your coats 110w. at the same time. the three of you are wearing your coats now. so back to you, rosie. so bearing in mind they have already reduced their energy consumption quite significantly and we will find out how much on friday, what else will these guys be doing this week? how much on friday, what else will these guys be doing this week7m how much on friday, what else will these guys be doing this week? it is great the points these guys make because it points out our homes are not necessarily fit for a low carbon future and we have to bear in mind that the vast majority of the homes we we re that the vast majority of the homes we were living in 2050 have already been built and these homes need to been built and these homes need to be upgraded, souped up, to make sure they keep the heat and so when we put the heating, it is notjust lust straightaway. so we will look around the house with fresh eyes and hopefully giving these guys ideas about how that can be done to your homes. getting to know your house. we talked about before we will learn
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this week we will get to know our own homes, here and at home. also, travel is a massive part of it, the biggest contributor to uk emissions. how are we are going to look at reducing that this week? these guys are reducing that this week? these guys a re pretty reducing that this week? these guys are pretty good. when it comes to travel, again, big energy use, maybe a quarter of our carbon footprint when it comes to the average uk citizen. you guys have made changes for heating and the home to do with financial budgets, but what we will be thinking about for travel is what happens when you try and travel on a carbon budget? how can you get creative, how can you go the furthest you possibly can for that tonne of carbon, for example? yes, it is not just tonne of carbon, for example? yes, it is notjust about getting loughborough but travelling abroad as well. absolutely. that will impact some of you. i live in hong kong, so it is going to be tough. i don't really travel much, i only travel once every three months. but
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still, it is going to cost. it will add up. we will look at that in terms of their carbon budget. 0ne thing i want to know, outside our homes, what law —— what more can we'll be doing? there is an interesting question about the fact that it are so many different actors involved in this situation. to change our homes and make a massive retrofit programme about upgrading homes, it needs not only homeowners, it needs the government policy, builders, landlords, everyone working together and thinking about how all of these actors can work together, is really quite a tricky challenge and i am interested to get you guys, your views on that. this is your future we are talking about and your role as citizens, are there ways that you can perhaps put pressure on different people to influence the picture? that is interesting because surely the onus for big change with energy use has to be on the government and business, can the individual really make that much difference?
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absolutely, if we are going to make, parliament has set huge ambitious targets for carbon savings by 2050 and the coming decades and government obviously is going to play a huge role if we achieve that. that will inform regulation around new—build homes and it will be in the form of encouragement and supporting homeowners to make these changes we are talking about. but there is this question about, what motivates them and what is the role of the individual and the citizen in actually helping to change that conversation? unless we care about it when we are renting our home, why would a landlords care about making sure their home is really fit for the future? so it is about renters demanding. what motivates you guys to live more sustainably? you guys wa nted to live more sustainably? you guys wanted to do this, what will motivate you to make change? definitely cost. as students, that is something, electricity, cutting it down. it was getting quite high. cost. perfect. thank you very much.
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we are going on these different challenges to reduce your energy footprint this week. and you can join us on friday where we are also going to tell you how these guys got on with plastic challenge, debate reduce their plastic intake and did they reduce their food intake last year, sojoin us on friday when they reduce their food intake last year, so join us on friday when we tell you how they got on with their energy challenge and some of the others. thank you very much, mike. and they were top tips from the experts are now a social media on how to reduce your energy use. thank you for your messages about theresa may's vote tomorrow, the second vote, if it goes ahead, on her brexit deal. james says, mps should vote for mrs may's deal tomorrow or we will end up with more chaos and more uncertainty and possibly no brexit. kate says, i voted leave and i woke to my mp to vote leave with or without a deal but i don't want a
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delay. graham said, leave, no deal is ourtrump card delay. graham said, leave, no deal is our trump card so it must be left on the table. i have said it many times before that those who want no—deal taken out of the equation obviously wants to remain. this says, mps should vote against this dog is brexit and put the mess back to the people to decide. 2 million new voters have a right to say. that's it, mrs may will probably pull vote again. next... a story about a cult operating out of a tiny hamlet in somerset called titherington. families have been talking to the bbc about how they ve lost loved ones to this bizarre cult. it's called ‘universal medicine' and it started in australia, but has its european headquarters in this village near froome. rachel stonehouse, from bbc inside out west, has been investigating. titherington, somerset. population, 268.
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a quiet hamlet near froome. or is it? in the last ten years, it's become home to a cult. its leader, serge benhayon, is a former bankrupt tennis coach who lives in australia and is now a millionaire. we've been told his cult splits up families. he teaches that people are sexually abused because of what they did in a past life. if you have been sexually abused, then you have been an abuser. he says those with autism were former dictators. as are downs syndrome, as are past—it or any other disabled child. he teaches that alien—like creatures seek out our vulnerabilities by smelling us. fact, and that happens everywhere. you can be on a train, on the bus, you are being smelt all the time. welcome to the weird and dangerous world of universal medicine. kasha was 12 when she says her mum
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moved to somerset to follow universal medicine. what was your earliest memory of your mum's involvement with universal medicine? one of the main things i can remember was turning everything anticlockwise because if you didn't, you would let entities in. so cooking food had to be done anticlockwise, things like that. turning door knobs and handles. also, taking your shoes off when you go into the house because otherwise, you will walk in entities. i was sitting here and my dad was over there. my mum came up the stairs and she started burping ridiculously and my dad was like, what are you doing? and she said, i'm just blurting out bad spirits. burping out bad spirits. how could you say that? and how could anyone believe that? it'sjust ridiculous. serge hit the headlines in october when he sued this former patient in australia for defamation and lost. she claims serge indecently touched her during an ovarian reading.
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a jury found in her favour, saying it was true to call universal medicine a "socially harmful cult" that makes false claims about healing. the jury also found serge engaged in bizarre sexual manipulation, exploited cancer patients to leave him bequests in their wills, and persuaded followers to shun loved ones who won'tjoin his cult. john says universal medicine took both his wife and his adult daughter away from him. my daughterjust changed overnight. she didn't want to acknowledge father's day, she told me that she could celebrate my birthday any day of the year. so how did you feel all of a sudden, as her dad, when she started to change the way she was towards you? heartbroken. i really miss my daughter. i really do. anybody that contradicts
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what they say, they're basically told to shun away and not to mix with them. no—one questions serge. he is a guru, a god, whatever you want to call him. we've discovered he comes to titherington in somerset twice a year to teach workshops to his followers here at the lighthouse, where universal medicine's european headquarters is based. it's a 4—star bed—and—breakfast with conference facilities, a cafe and an indoor swimming pool. all thriving businesses in their own right that visitors wouldn't know were connected to universal medicine. and they're open to the public and set on a beautiful 3a—acre site. this is simon williams, the managing director of the lighthouse, and he's also the president of froome chamber of commerce.
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he didn't want to be interviewed, but we had a chat off camera. i pushed him on his involvement in universal medicine. he, at first, wouldn't tell me exactly what's going on. the police say the lighthouse had called them and, after a short conversation, we continue with ourfilming. i spoke to simon, he told me he feels this has been a media witchhunt against him. when i asked him if he was involved in universal medicine, he didn't answer the question, he wouldn't tell me. so i pushed him further and eventually he did admit that he is a follower of universal medicine, that serge benhayon is a great friend of his, who he loves very much, and that the court ruling in australia is totally untrue, none of it is true. and when i started to question him on some of serge's beliefs around disabled children and victims of sexual assault, he refused to answer that. and at that point, he asked me to leave and said the conversation was finished.
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serge benhayon has always denied running a cult and any wrongdoing. for the families who have not seen their loved ones for years, it's clear what they think of serge benhayon and universal medicine. i think serge is a cruel man, with cruel intentions, and that's all i have to say. i genuinely think he's a monster. and you can hear more about the bizarre and dangerous world of universal medicine on inside out — that's on bbc one in the west of england at 8:30pm tonight, and everywhere else on the bbc iplayer. thank you from your many messages about mrs may's brexit deal and that it will return to the commons for a second vote tomorrow. i will have been asking how you want your mp to vote this time around. ian says... ijust want my mp to honour the result of the referendum &
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the general election. no deal is the only acceptable deal. and if the mps think they can deny us leaving on the 29th, i would say think very hard & long about your long term employment prospects! raj on email: chuck her deal out! wto only now. constance on email: this brexit fiasco must end soon and the sooner the question is taken back to the people the better. people who voted to leave were lied to and must now realise this. john on email: brexit we voted out — now get out. if politicians can not do this, they do not represent british public. michael on email: the problem all along has been may until she goes, the problem remains. thank you for those. you can use the hashtag victory live to get in touch. breaking news, a 20—year—old man has appeared at the old bailey charged with the murder of 17—year—old 62. he is called manuel petrovic and he will face trial beginning in september. in september the 2nd, he appeared via video link
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from pentonville prison and he spoke only to confirm his name, his age and nationality, to which he replied croatia. he was remanded in custody by thejudge, police croatia. he was remanded in custody by the judge, police also say a 16—year—old boy was arrested, in london on friday, and will appear on barkingside magistrates later today, also charged with murder. in the case ofjodie also charged with murder. in the case of jodie chesney. head teachers representing 250 state—funded or maintained nursery schools — which are run by local authorities — are marching to downing street today to call on the chancellor to safeguard their future funding. philip hammond, makes his spring statement on wednesday, where he gives an update on the overall health of britain's economy. and the naht — which represents headteachers, including those who run nursery schools — want him to promise money for their nurseries, which they describe as the jewel in the social mobility crown, supporting some of the most disadvantaged children , some of whom arrive at nursery unable to speak, or still in nappies
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at the age of four. let's talk now to sally leese, who is the head of a maintained nursery, castle vale, in birmingham. she is a member of the naht union and is going to downing street today and will be responsible for handing over the letter. one of the mums that uses sally's nursery is kelly berry, for her sonjack, who has autism. and we also have sacha walker—byrne, the head of fairfield nursery in accrington, which is also a maintained nursery. thank you very much for talking to us. sally, what is it you need and why? we need confirmation of funding for the future. so far, we have had acknowledgement from the government that we are unique, we are schools and need to be funded differently to achieve the work we do. but it is a lwa ys achieve the work we do. but it is always time related and we can't keep moving from one statement to the next, knowing we can't support
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the next, knowing we can't support the families or commit to families, so we want long—term commitment funding and schools. what kind of area is your nursery in and why is it so important that funding is secured? my schools in birmingham, on an estate that is very high in deprivation. we support families and children who don't come in with the skills they need in order to be successful at school. we do have to support them in speech and language and toilet training and feeding themselves, closing themselves, we have to support the families a lot as well to understand what their children need and how to achieve that. so do they arrive not being able to talk? often, yes. we do get some that come in age appropriately, but many of our children still have dummies, bottles, they are not spoken to, they are put in front of ta blets, spoken to, they are put in front of tablets, tv and theyjust don't come with the communication skills that you need in order to learn. right,
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so what you are providing is crucial for a successful life terms for that child? absolutely, otherwise, they would be starting school still in nappies, unable to feed themselves and dress themselves, hold conversations, play with their friends, everything you need before you are able to learn your phonics and others. we also have a high proportion in nursery schools across the country of children with special educational needs. ok, let's bring in kerry. talking about her sonjack and how he is getting on at sarri's nursery. yes, jack is doing quite well at the nursery. he has autism and is practically nonverbal and through the help of the nursery, he isjust starting to through the help of the nursery, he is just starting to develop through the help of the nursery, he isjust starting to develop his speech, we have just recently had him counting one to ten in his own way, through the help and support from the nursery. right, let me bring in sacha, tell me about the
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kind of help you offer to your youngsters at your nursery in accrington. good morning. we are based in accrington, since 1952, accrington. good morning. we are based in accrington, since1952, so we are one of 24 in east lancashire and it reaches an area of high deprivation. they go to reception class and our baseline is a very low level, they are not age appropriate and they need that support and assistance in continuity. sacha, i can't hear you very well but i got the gist of that. it is really hard. yes, thank you for persisting. if those children didn't go to your nursery, what would they be doing, do you think? there wouldn't be provision. there are private and volu nta ry provision. there are private and voluntary independent provisions in our community but those children we re our community but those children were not our community but those children we re not accessed our community but those children were not accessed that provision because they cannot pay top up fees.
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and also, as a nursery school, we are really tenacious in making sure those families attend and we ring them when they are not coming in, because they have so much to cope with that sometimes, it is really ha rd with that sometimes, it is really hard to get their children to school because that isn't always a priority. so we are ringing, we do home visits and check in on them and make sure mums and dads are feeling 0k, make sure mums and dads are feeling ok, that they are able to take their children to school. i know you are not able to work at the moment, kerry, and your husband is studying to bea kerry, and your husband is studying to be a teacher. what would the options be without a nursery like the one your son goes to? currently, the one your son goes to? currently, the nursery, if it wasn't available, jack would be at home with me, but he should be in school now, but we deferred him starting because we knew his needs. it has taken us up until very recently to get him a place at a special needs school. so with all the issues we have had come
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at the nursery can agreed to keep jack on for another 12 months to help support him with the structure, otherwise, he would be at home, out of education. how are you funded at the moment, sally? so we have a mixture of children, all children after the age of three are entitled to their 15 hours and we take children who meet the criteria, usually who have been on benefits, their parents on benefits, just after two, but we are funded per hour, per child, without the supplementary funding we are requesting, so comparably, to a childminder, he officially works ha rd childminder, he officially works hard with the children but doesn't have the overheads we have, doesn't need qualified teachers, all of that. so the supplementary funding means we can work as a school and support families in a different way to other early years settings, the family support the other head teacher was talking about. making sure the children narrow the gap
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between the children from deprived backgrounds and their peers as closely as possible, and research has shown we do that really effectively. if your nursery wasn't able to secure long—term funding and it disappeared, what would that mean for the people in your area? it disappeared, what would that mean for the people in your area7m would mean that a lot of children would mean that a lot of children would not receive any sort of education before five, they would not receive any support, their pa rents not receive any support, their parents wouldn't receive support getting into work or the needs of the children would not be identified, health needs, neglect needs that we support and ensure that these children had the best possible chance before they get to school. i think you have recently had a child who came to your nursery with no speech skills, no language, in nappies and display the sort of high level of emotional distress. and that is not uncommon. no, we receive phone calls on a regular basis from health visitors and family support workers, social
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workers, requesting really, can you ta ke workers, requesting really, can you take this child as soon as possible? that often is between funding time so we know we won't get the funding for these children, we know that we need to support them over and above, but the answer is 0hs because otherwise, where else would these children go? —— is yes. 0ther businesses cannot take children without funding, because we are schools and different, we see it as our moral responsibility to do that and if we are funded and utilised properly, we can continue to do that for these children. thank you very much, all of you, we appreciate your time and we will see what happens. thank you. we did ask the treasury for a statement, but they said they weren't able to comment, ahead of the spring statement on wednesday. thank you for your messages online --r thank you for your messages online —— r brexit, so many.
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this view on twitter says, i'm against a bad deal, if she gets this, god only knows what garbage she will accept in trade deals and other aspects. this deal was created injunior school, it other aspects. this deal was created in junior school, it is full of waffle a nd in junior school, it is full of waffle and what ifs. this says, i wa nt waffle and what ifs. this says, i want my mp to vote against this deal and no—deal and for the extension to article 50, i want to remain. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. good morning. yesterday, we saw a mixture of weather. sunshine, hale, sweet, snow. we saw snow particularly over the higher ground. but this morning, many of us have had blue skies and we will continue with sunshine across many parts of uk this afternoon. still the other
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shower in north west england and west of scotland, mostly clearing away. the cloud increases from the west making the sunshine turned milky but hazy across western areas later, a maximum temperature up to 7-12d. later, a maximum temperature up to 7—12d. tonight, we see this rain moving from northern ireland into scotland. the breeze picking up as well, strong winds throughout the night, linked into this area of low pressure which will be towards iceland. look at the white lines, the isobars close together, these weather fronts moving south and east. so throughout tuesday, heavy rain and strong winds and for the rest of the week, gales, severe gales, with heavy rain and bright or sunny and sweet. i buy. —— sunny interludes, goodbye.
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you're watching bbc newsroom live. i'm joanna gosling in westminster, at the start of another crucial week for the prime minister. there's still deadlock over the brexit negotiations, just a day before mps are due to vote again on theresa may's deal. a leading brexiteer says she's likely to lose again. in very simple terms, if you ask the same question, you are likely to get pretty much the same answer. i'm carrie gracie, with the other main stories this morning. pressure mounts on boeing after the ethiopia air disaster, china grounds all its 737 max—8s for urgent checks. three of the seven british nationals, who were killed, have been named.

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