thank you. you re watching bbc newsroom live ? these a former soldier is to be prosecuted are today s main stories: over the bloody sunday shootings applause in londonderry, nearly five decades ago. one former solider is to be charged the paratrooper is to be charged over the bloody sunday killings in londonderry almost with the murders of james wray you re watching bbc and william mckinney, newsroom live 7 it's11am as well as the attempted and these are the main stories this five decades ago. murder of four others. morning: the soldier is charged prosecutors in northern ireland are about to announce if former with the murders of james wray and william mckinney — soldiers will be charged over as well as the attempted a decision has been taken to the killings on bloody sunday in murder of four others. londonderry almost five decades ago. prosecute one former soldier, you've been watching coverage of a news co nfe re nce you've been watching coverage of a the families of those killed have news conference with the families of soldier f, for the murder ofjames families of those killed in one those killed on bloody sunday, of the darkest days of the troubles been reacting to the news. marched through the city this descendants of some of those killed wray and for the murder of william morning ahead of the decision. mckinney. mps prepare for another 13 people were shot dead at a civil vote on brexit this time in 1972. bloody sunday, such a on whether to delay leaving rights march on 30 january 1972. significant moment in of northern we heard from the families saying their relatives insist their campaign "is not finished yet". the eu,beyond the 29th march. ireland. 47 years ago, and today we justice for one public charter for justice forjim, which of us. i think is one thing, but my heart is broken. i'm annita mcveigh in westminster heard that one former soldier is to mps prepare for another vote for the rest of the on what promises to be another busy on brexit, this time face charges over events on that on whether to delay leaving the eu family, this has been a very black day for them. day in the brexit story. day. currently known as soldier f, beyond the 29th march. boeing grounds its entire global was known is that throughout the fleet of 737 max aircraft saville inquiry, looking into events after investigators uncover all sorts of moves afoot in new evidence at the scene of the fatal ethiopian airlines crash. on bloody sunday. many thousands of westminster, mps coming up with various suggestions that they want pages of evidence heard over those mps to vote on later, to try again official figures reveal yea rs.

the number of people cautioned or prosecuted for carrying a knife pages of evidence heard over those to ta ke in england and wales years. today, soldier f, who for mps to vote on later, to try again to take control over what happens in has reached its highest the coming days and months on now, maintains its anonymity, is charged with two murders and three brexit, out of the hands of theresa attempted murders. we heard from the level for ten years. may add into the hands of mps. some families there thatjustice for one are pushing for a second referendum. family isjustice families there thatjustice for one family is justice for all. that they've made clear their dismay that others are saying that if there is more charges have not been brought. we are mindful of the families who no, fpm might‘s deal is not passed good morning. have not seen the charges brought welcome to bbc newsroom live. next week, when it is expected that against anyone over the deaths of theresa may will put her patrol in the next few moments, their loved ones. no prosecution or prosecutors in northern ireland will announce whether former agreement forward for a third vote, soldiers are to be charged over the killings on bloody there must be a delay. —— theresa sunday in londonderry. 13 people were shot dead conviction that does not mean not by paratroopers at a civil rights demonstration 47 years ago. guilty, one said, it does not mean may's deal. there will be a debate our ireland correspondent chris page the soldiers acted in a dignified starting later in the commons, full and responsible way. no soldiers coverage of it here. reports from derry. fired in response to attacks or a former member of the threatened attacks. that is parachute regiment — something that was made clear during known only as soldier f — the saville inquiry. correspond to is to be charged with two murders we arejust we are just getting the news and four attempted murders through. families have gathered to joins us now from derry. measured on bloody sunday in 1972. 13 civil rights demonstrators were shot dead in londonderry on one of the most notorious days of northern ireland's troubles. hear the news asset comes through. i 16 otherformer soldiers emotional responses from the who were also investigated will not face prosecution.

can tell you that one former families? an overwhelming sense of paratrooper who has been named as in the past hour, the public prosecution service said soldier f is to be charged with two there was enough evidence to prosecute soldier f murders and for attempted murders for the murders ofjames wray disappointment, not defeat but and william mckinney. disappointment. many hopes there he also faces charges doing igbinedion. in 1972. that has would be more from the former for the attempted murders paratroopers that would be charged. just come through from northern as you say, the decision that of four other people. ireland's public prosecution service. one former paratrooper soldier f would be charged with two being charged. i think we can go to cou nts soldier f would be charged with two counts of murder and four of attempted murder. welcomes, but seen dennis murray, the former ireland as insufficient. one family said corresponded who has lived through reporting on these events for many justice for one family isjustice family is justice for all. many yea rs. reporting on these events for many years. what can you tell is about charges? only one soldier is going the director of public prosecutor spoke earlier about what the would not even have thought they decisions they have taken are and why. together would not even have thought they to be charged. the director of would have got this far. public prosecutions has said that nevertheless, there is a reminder of there is not enough evidence for the with the senior prosecution team, i have met with the families of those what saville had said, all the prospect of securing a conviction in protesters had been in a sense, none bereaved and injured on bloody had posted a threats to those that the case of 17 soldiers and two sunday. we have informed them that fired at them. and a sense of official ira men who also fired following careful consideration of defiance. one of the family members, all of the available evidence, a shots on the day of bloody sunday. decision has been taken to prosecute in their reaction today, talked of only one soldier, soldier f, has the passage of time should not be

been charged with two counts of one former soldier, murder. he has been charged with offered as a blanket form of decision has been taken to prosecute one formersoldier, soldier decision has been taken to prosecute one former soldier, soldier f, for immunity to the soldiers. and a the murder of james wray murdering james ray and william very, very strong sense that no one former soldier, soldier f, for the murder ofjames wray and for the mckinley, and he has been charged murder of william mckinney. charges conviction it does not mean not with the attempted murders ofjoseph will also be brought for the guilty. again, seeking vindication friel, michael quinn, jo hahn and attempted murder ofjosie friel, from the saville inquiry. a reminder patrick o'donnell. there is not that those were two different going to be, there is insufficient michael quinn, jo maher and and things, the saville inquiry was evidence to provide a reasonable patrick o'donnell. —— joseph friel. there to determine what happens on prospect of conviction in the other there to determine what happens on cases, so prospect of conviction in the other cases, so the test for prosecution the day and not to force in respect of the other subjects, is not met, but it has been prosecutions. this has been a separate process. as we heard from concluded there is sufficient including 16 former soldiers add to evidence available to charge former the pps, there has only been one alleged official ira members, it has soldier f. he was described as that case where there would be a very been concluded that the available strong prospect of a successful evidence is insufficient to provide a reasonable prospect of conviction. in the several tribunal, and the prosecution. the others, they say nomenclatures been carried over to not to diminish the findings of the this. only one soldier is to be in these circumstances, the evidential test for prosecution is saville inquiry, but the others they charged with anything, soldier f, felt were simply not strong enough not met and decisions not to grounds to follow through. we now charged with anything, soldier f, charged with anything, soldier f, charged with two murders and for prosecute have been taken in respect attempted murders. what is the reaction likely to be from the of the remaining 18 individuals reported by police. i am acutely families? i would guess they will be disappointed because what they have have some reaction from the prime said all along is they wantjustice. aware that it has been a long road

minister prospect spokesman saying they have a duty to bring for the family to reach this point, i think that translates as seeing people who fired rifles on that day satisfaction and peace to northern ireland. we will offer a full legal and today will be another extremely being brought before the court. the difficult day or many of them. as trouble is you cannot argue with and pastoral support to anyone theirs from that point of view. if affected by today's decision. we you have spent nine years since the recognise the suffering of anyone prosecutors, we approach our who lost loved ones during the responsible it is with complete enquiry re—interviewing 668 troubles, as this is now an ongoing impartiality, but not without legal manner, it would be compassion. for all those who are witnesses and the 20 suspects, 18 inappropriate to comment further. impacted by our decisions. there is soldiers, one of whom died last year let's speak now to peter taylor, our correspondent who and the two official ira men i was in derry on that perhaps a level of expectation around the prosecution decisions in mentioned, it has taken nine years day in 1972. to get to this, so the dpp cannot be took us through your recollections? light of the findings of the bloody it's a day forever seared in my faulted for the thoroughness. they sunday enquiry. but i would mind. it was my introduction to the highlight two important simply feel they do not have enough irish conflict, the irish question. distinctions. first, much of the evidence to secure a conviction in material which was available for i spent most of the past 50 years consideration by the enquiry is not the case of 17 soldiers and two trying to understand it and explain official ira men, but they feel theissues admissible in criminal proceedings. there is enough evidence to take trying to understand it and explain the issues involved. bloody sunday due to the strict rules of evidence this case against soldier f. i am was the turning point, the that apply. therefore most of the watershed. the killing by sure there will be politicians and previous statements as to conduct paratroopers of 13 made by the soldiers cannot be used former and current soldiers who will watershed. the killing by pa ratroopers of 13 unarmed, watershed. the killing by paratroopers of 13 unarmed, innocent against the individual concerned as civilians, who, as lord saville be very disappointed indeed, very said, did not pose a threat to the angry, feeling betrayed that any soldiers, was an indication of the

soldier is to face any prosecution. against the individual concerned as a basis for prosecution. second, the legitimisation that many young enquiry reached a number of findings catholics failed to use violence and these events 47 years ago, just talk couched in terms of probability join the iras. so the growth in which is substantially different to us these events 47 years ago, just talk us through, remind viewers about what happened and about the impact strength and support for the ira you the standard of proof required in that there has been. more or less criminal cases are beyond reasonable can really trace from that particular day, bloody sunday. a doubt. having outlined these points, the last sentence of the savile dreadful day. but i was looking to enquiry was bloody sunday was a today to form some mark of closure catastrophe for northern ireland. it i would stress that the prosecution decisions in no way undermine the was, because it became the biggest for the families. they are very finding of the enquiry that those source of recruitment to the killed or injured when not posing a provisional ira and to the other pleased that one soldier has been threat to any of the soldiers. today republican paramilitary groups. not charged with murder, but there will be disappointment, acute we have outlined the reasoning for least because the establishment, the disappointment, about the fact that our decisions with families and we british army and politicians, told are committed to further engagement only one soldier has been charged. as far as many people, most people it isa to help them understand those only one soldier has been charged. it is a victory for the families and we re as far as many people, most people were concerned, flat—out lies about reasons. in the interest of openness those who were shot, that they were theircampaign, buta it is a victory for the families and their campaign, but a very limited victory. listening to the press gunmen 01’ those who were shot, that they were and transparency, we are also gunmen or bombers. that was found to conference, i sighed at one moment publishing a summary on our website. be not true. martin mcguinness, who when the families said the campaign goes on to getjustice for the gave witness to, gave evidence, he this is intended to provide the families whose loved ones were public with a high level of described the ira in 1972 as like killed by soldiers who are not being confidence in the independence and

the boy scouts. i was highly integrity of our decision—making. i prosecuted. on the other side of the coin, ithink sceptical of that, so i asked a very prosecuted. on the other side of the coin, i think there will be anger on would remind everyone to please the part of the parachute regiment experienced a derryjournalist who and its commanding officer, whom i exercise caution when commenting on was there on the day, do you accept today's decisions. there are interviewed earlier this year, he that? he said, yes, i do, and he was appalled at the prospect of significant reporting restrictions still in place from the bloody derry the grade of the ira became an prosecutions of his men. but there will also be relieved that, if there sunday enquiry, and as criminal are prosecutions, it is of only one proceedings are now to be commenced, there should be no reporting which extremely ruthless, very effective soldier. the important thing to bear could be —— which could prejudice paramilitary organisation, and in mind is that there is a world of indeed the deadliest terrorist these in anyway. organisation in europe for the next difference between lord saville's families gathered to give their reaction in derry‘s guildhall. 20 plus years. so you can see why conclusions, when he is specific john kelly, whose17—year—old brother michael was killed, lord savile said it was a said many had received about individual soldiers killing a "terrible disappointment". catastrophe. the march itself was a individual people, and the need to but he welcomed the news for the six get the evidence necessary to stand families impacted by the decision civil rights march against to prosecute soldier f. internment without trial. people had a reasonable chance of prosecution. been arrested the previous august, the test, as was pointed out before and interned without trial, put in jail without facing the court. in an i was going to say good morning, but the press conference, is that the ido i was going to say good morning, but i do not think it is. we have had a attempt to dampen down, put a stop evidence has to be evidence that will convince a jury or deadlocked to the trouble that was already terrible disappointment in the court of proof beyond reasonable outcome from the prosecution brewing. that as well, thatjust doubt. that is not the same as on erred the pot, that made the service. one soldier, soldier f, he troubles become much more intense, the balance of probabilities, so was responsible for the murder of and bloody sunday of course it's a very fine legal distinction, accelerated the process. the former five individuals. he has been put in

and clearly, the evidence was not the frame for two. which is william strong enough to prosecute more than father, dennis bradley, was a young one particular soldier. the families catholic priest on the day of bloody mckinney add james wray, and the injury of four others. their victory sunday and he was there. he says to wa nt to one particular soldier. the families want to see justice done. in terms is our victory. this day that up to bloody sunday of any reconciliation, we heard there were troubles in northern previously from david cameron in the aftermath of the saville inquiry ireland, after bloody sunday it was a war. stay whereby, i want to go to saying sorry to the families. today, applause oui’ a war. stay whereby, i want to go to our corresponded, karen allen, who we've had a statement from gavin joins us from derry. what reaction williamson saying that the ministry of defence will support soldier f to deny people their human rights is to this news? charges brought and pay legal costs, we are indebted to challenge their very humanity, against 1's former soldier. we are to those soldiers who served to said nelson mandela. we have walked expecting official reaction from the bring peace to northern ireland. it families in the next few minutes. the long journey since our fathers was put to the families today, how marching at the moment from the and brothers were brutally slaughtered on the streets of derry would they feel about that? because on bloody sunday. over that passage bogside through to just behind marching at the moment from the bogside through tojust behind me here to the guildhall where we are inevitably, going today part of of time, or the pair is of the expecting to hear more from them. as deceased have died. we are here to prosecution is a way that picture ta ke two sides against each other again. deceased have died. we are here to take their place. bloody sunday was we hear, a sense of disappointment among many, but i spoke to one woman what is your sense of what that not just a wanton this morning and she said, even air would do to wounds that have not take their place. bloody sunday was notjust a wanton act carried out by a trained army against the there was one former soldier defenceless civil rights activists. healed and remain pretty raw, even charged, that would be enough for after a ll healed and remain pretty raw, even after all this time? i think the it also created a deep legacy of her. it is very hard to overstate

hurt and injustice. it deepened and problem is that the decision to prosecute one soldier reopens the prolonged a bloody conflict the symbolic importance of the day. unimaginable, even on those dark question of bloody sunday, reopened and of bloody sunday. everyone that you speak to around here, almost the wounds that we hoped would have winter days of 1972. the full cost been healed on both sides, and i of bloody sunday cannot be measured without exception, knows someone who in terms of those who suffered that was there on the day of 47 years don't think that is going to happen, day, must also be measured in terms ago. we are expecting the families judging by the reaction of the of those who suffered because of families at the press conference. to appear fairly shortly, there is a that terrible day. our correspondent karen allen half a mile march from the bogside the fact that the families say their campaign goes on implies that the is in derry for us. through to the guildhall, and this is where we are also likely to hear tell us more about the reaction controversy of bloody sunday, that a little bit more in detail from the we thought may have been resolved by there has been. certainly that decision. dennis was describing the the decision to prosecute one particular soldier, or f, although disappointment is echoed here we must stress he is only being outside the guildhall, many families impact on northern ireland and the had hoped there would be more troubles of bloody sunday. now that convictions, but i did speak to one prosecuted, he hasn't been found the true story is out there, that it guilty, and we have to wait and see woman earlier who said at least, if there was one soldier charged, that was heard to savile, you mentioned what happens in court, but the fact that one soldier has been prosecuted that one woman said that even if one would be enough for her, because it isa soldier was charged, that would be that one soldier has been prosecuted is a victory for the families, but a is deeply symbolic. i asked whether enough for her, how cathartic how she imagined she would ever see this limited victory, and i think there day and she said, no, absolutely will be a relief within the not. although there is these processes been? it is parachute regiment that only one of difficult to hear your, but i think their soldiers is now facing disappointment, there is certainly a sense that, as one of the family prosecution. and of course, bloody

you are asking me about the sense of members said, justice for one family sunday is a totemic event and the things today, 47 years later. this is justice for all. there was a family there today were talking strong feeling that the passage of is the dna of people who live here, about giving hope to others who have time should not give blanket so is the dna of people who live here, so many have got links to bloody not seen itjustice, who have been immunity and should not give any sunday, and one woman told me that ona not seen itjustice, who have been on a long path forjustice suggestion that no conviction does todayis sunday, and one woman told me that themselves. what does this do for today is an emotional day for start others who were also affected by the not mean not guilty. many of the it isa today is an emotional day for start it is a very different scene to 40 troubles? i think this raises the family is drawing strength from the years ago, but there has been some whole question, a difficult question sectarian violence, but not on the to answer, of how we deal with the saville inquiry, which concluded legacy of the past. what that comes scale we saw before, and as we heard that none of the protesters posed a threat to the soldiers add that they down to, and i looked at this quite dennis say, this was an event that recently, how you square the circle we re threat to the soldiers add that they were innocent and if the soldiers between the justice which is being had lost their self—control. there was the totemic event of the has been a statement from the prime demanded by families who lost their troubles stop it dead act as a loved ones at the hands or weapons minister's offers. they praised, a recruiting tool subsequently for more and more loyalists to make our of british soldiers, notjust on spokesman said they are vetted to bloody sunday, but other incidents debt was an important catalyst for too, how do you measure thatjustice soldiers, their courage and and how do you satisfy thatjustice distinction, who operated in and how do you satisfy thatjustice northern ireland, goes on to say many events and further shootings and equate it with the justice as we and loss of life that followed in that they recognise the suffering of know from bloody sunday in anyone who lost a loved ones, but the years subsequently. it is an particular, the justice important day for the people of know from bloody sunday in particular, thejustice being demanded by families? it is an now as it is an ongoing legal derry, a different place today. almost impossible circle to square, and that is what the government has matter, it would be inappropriate to

still no sign of any families been agonising overfor arriving here, but i think in a few and that is what the government has been agonising over for several months and what the defence comment further. obviously some minutes' time we can expect see them secretary has got to sort out, along anger in military circles that there have been any charges brought with the cabinet and the northern coming and basically gathering here. it might be several hundred of them ireland office. what the answer will against a former member of the parachute regiment for top they gathered here to try and give us a be, i don't honestly know, but it argued they were doing theirjob and little bit more indication of their looks like we're moving towards some felt that there was a threat, and reaction to today's decision. the what would this mean for the form of statute of limitations, but perfection of soldiers in future? at that will not cover soldier f, soldier being prosecuted has been the moment, possibly relief as well, referred to throughout the enquiry and now on this day that charges are that only one of the 17 bomber announced as soldier f. would you because the law must now take its expect that anonymity, i don't know if you can hear me, but would you members of the regiment are being course. but i think that's the charged. we do not know the expect that anonymity to continue timeframe of what will happen next direction, in some way or other, the through a trial? the savile enquiry, and terms of summons and court government is now moving. the appearances. today very much a daily government is now moving. the government is now moving. the government is exercised by it, and to ta ke gavin williamson has views, he appearances. today very much a daily to take stock, in emotional day as according the soldiers anonymity. it sympathises with the soldiers, and one family member said, for is highly likely that anonymity will he also sympathises with the something that we cannot overstate remain. we do not know about the families. so british politicians are how important bloody sunday was and next stages, the process, charges also in an equally difficult how important bloody sunday was and how significant it was to the position. thank you very much. we'll history of those troubled part of bobby brought with two counts of northern ireland. thank you very murder, four of attempted murder, and one assumes that this stage that much, we will continue to bring you bring you more reaction to the news

on the top of the hour. now, the more reaction to that news that one anonymity will hold. the ministry of defence has said that they will pay soldier is being prosecuted for two the legal support of any soldiers weather. murders and for attempted murders on that were prosecuted. one would bloody sunday, 47 years ago. assume at this point that there may not be strong argument for lifting it's another big day for brexit — strong winds yesterday from storm that anonymity. just make karen let's get the latest gareth, some really strong winds from westminster, annita is there for us. today as well. this cloud stretching waiting for reaction from the families and we will be back there as soon as there is reaction. ghost all the way back to the carillion, this conveyor belt of cloud bringing i passed a man with carrying a wet and windy weather over the next placard that said, leave mean few days. it remains wednesday, a sleeve, it said, where is everyone? mixture of sunny spells and showers. i thought, well, they are possibly foxy today with the senior avoiding the wild weather we had prosecution team, i have met with when the sun does come out, looking the families of those bereaved, and decent. this is north yorkshire at earlier or possiblyjust pacing themselves, because it will be the moment. but still blustery, those entered on bloody sunday. we another long day at westminster have informed them that following gusts up to 50mph, particularly after that night drama yesterday in careful consideration of all of the the comments when mps voted to across england and east wales. but a reject a new deal brexit any available evidence, a decision has been taken to prosecute one former circumstances. what could happen good deal of sunshine, showers in soldier, soldier f, for the murder scotla nd good deal of sunshine, showers in scotland and north west england. next? today mps will vote on whether cou nty scotland and north west england. county down to the south west of ofjames soldier, soldier f, for the murder england and wales. maximum to ask permission to delay the date of james ray and soldier, soldier f, for the murder ofjames ray and for the murder of

william mckinney. charges will also the uk leaves the eu. currently the temperatures this afternoon, up to be bought for the attempted murder 10 degrees in northern areas. up to 29th of march. we expect voting to ofjoseph friel. michael quinn, jo, start at 5pm this evening. theresa 14 degrees in the south east. may is proposing to ask brussels for and patrick o'donnell. in respect of through to night, a repeat performance, because more rain a one—off technical postponement spreading in from the west. train which would delay brexit until the the other suspects reported to us by will move gradually east and end ofjune. the prime minister has warned that unless her brexit deal police, including 16 former soldiers clearing fairly quickly into the and two alleged official ira early hours of friday. temperature passes, a much lengthier delay may members, it has been concluded that starting off around 5 degrees, but be required. that means a third the available evidence is during friday, a mixture of sunny meaningful vote on the withdrawal insufficient to provide a reasonable spells and strong winds, vertically 00:12:32,968 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 in eastern england. agreement which is expected to take prospect of conviction. in these place before the eu summit on the circumstances, the evidential test for prosecution is not met and zist place before the eu summit on the 21st of march, so next wednesday, the 20th, is the deadline for decisions not to prosecute have been meaningful vote three to happen. as taken in decisions not to prosecute have been ta ken in respect decisions not to prosecute have been it stands, the current law, the uk taken in respect of the remaining 18 individuals reported by police. i am are set to leave the eu on the 29th of march until the withdrawal agreement is approved, that would acutely aware that it has been a long road for the families to reach this point, and today will be meana agreement is approved, that would mean a new deal brexit. joining me another extremely difficult day for

many of them. as prosecutors, we as former minister mp, sarah newton of the conservatives. she resigned from her position to vote against approach our responsibilities with the government on the main motion com plete approach our responsibilities with complete impartiality, but not without compassion. for all those yesterday. some of your colleagues here impacted by our decisions. abstained from voting, including cabinet ministers. do you think that there is perhaps a level of they should be sacked? absolutely expectation around the prosecution not, it is my understanding that decisions in light of the findings they were offered at the opportunity of the bloody sunday enquiry. but i to abstain. i was myself. i chose to would highlight two important distances. first, much of the resign, because i made very specific commitments to my constituents, and material which was unavailable for i think it is really important that consideration by the enquiry is not admissible in criminal proceedings mps honour those commitments. these due to the strict rules of evidence collea g u es mps honour those commitments. these colleagues in the cabinet are huge that apply. therefore most of the experience at such a challenging previous statements as to conduct time. —— have such huge experience. made by the soldiers cannot be used it is essential that they stay in against the individual concerned as the cabinet, continuing to support against the individual concerned as a basis for prosecution. second, the the cabinet, continuing to support the prime minister and get the dealer crossed the line. we have to enquiry is a number of fine is couched in terms of probability say goodbye to viewers on bbc two.

which is substantially different to thank you for watching. continuing the standard of proof required in criminal cases of beyond reasonable our conversation, from westminster asi doubt. having outlined these points, our conversation, from westminster as i talk to mp sarah newton who resigned from her cabinet position, i would stress that the prosecution decisions in no way undermine the ministerial position to vote against finding of the enquiry that those the government motion. looking killed or injured where not posing a ahead, do you know how you are going threat to any of the soldiers. today to vote tonight has potentially mps we have outlined the reasoning for may decide to seek to extend the oui’ we have outlined the reasoning for our decisions with families and we brexit process? yes, it is clear are committed to further engagement that i want to do exactly what i to help them understand those committed to my constituents. that reasons. in the interest of openness is deliver brexit with an orderly transition to a new close and and transparency, we are also publishing a summary on our website. special relationship with the eu. it got to the point where we will need a short—term extension to make sure this is intended to provide the public with a high level of we can get all the legislation, arrangements put in place to enable confidence in the independence and that to happen. i will be doing integrity of our decision—making. i that, but the prime minister is a bsently that, but the prime minister is absently right. we can only do this would remind everyone to please because we are going to have a deal exercise caution when commenting on

today's decisions. there are and leave the eu with a deal as we need extra time. what do you say to significant reporting restrictions still in place from the bloody brexit supporting mps who fear that any extension could mean that brexit is less likely? the only reason that sunday enquiry, and as criminal proceedings are now to be commenced, thatis there should be no reporting which is less likely? the only reason that that is the case is because they are could prejudice these in anyway. not supporting the deal. anybody who wa nts not supporting the deal. anybody who thank you. an interesting statement wants brexit, let's remind ourselves all conservative mps, all labour mps at the last election said they would deliver brexit with a deal, so the there, outlining the key piece of information which is that one former only people stopping us from doing that are the people who are not soldier, soldier f as he has been voting for the primers that's deal. known throughout the saville inquiry are now as the charges are announced, is being prosecuted for meaningful vote three next week, by two murders and for three attempted next wednesday at the latest, is it murders on bloody sunday. he then sensible, logical, viable for the prime minister to bring back a deal that has already been rejected said that the duty of him add those who have been making these decisions heavily twice? what is important as is to be impartial, but says they there are lots of really good are not without compassion, and says discussions going on, as groups of that what has been announced today does not undermine the findings of mps, the primers that has reached out to people of different local

the saville inquiry that those who we re the saville inquiry that those who were killed posed no threat to the parties to get to understand what soldiers, but he pointed out that they objections are, to overcome what emerged in the saville inquiry, much of it came through evidence those, so enough people can vote for that would not be admissible in a that deal. is that a deal that is criminal trial, and he also said really worthy of the uk? if it has that the enquiry reached a number of findings couched in probability, been rejected twice? really worthy of the uk? if it has been rejected twice ?|j really worthy of the uk? if it has been rejected twice? i do, i have which is very different to the read all the details and analysis, criminal test of beyond reasonable doubt. our correspondent karen allen isa read all the details and analysis, is a good deal. i have no problem is in derry for us. encouraging my constituents and collea g u es encouraging my constituents and colleagues in the house to support he gave those caveats around why it. it has been lego shaded with the these decisions have been taken. i eu, it it is the best deal that we see a big gathering behind you, is are going to achieve, and we have a any reaction coming through? not two year transition period where we are going to be negotiating trade yet, other than the modelling is on arrangements. the details to bring the ground, and i mentioned earlier one women i spoke to has said that this to life. plenty of scope for people to fine—tune what they want even one charge and one prosecution out of brexit. if meaningful vote would be deeply symbolic, that would three years not pass, do you think thatisit satisfy her, although i thick there three years not pass, do you think that is it for the primers to's will be disappointment among some plan? it is impossible to say. we members of the families. we will hear from them shortly. you can see have to look at things they buy day. i will do my level best to get that behind me, quite and dignified, they

deal through the comments. we are have marched from the bogside, the hearing that there will be a scene where the shootings happened, about half a mile from here, here to cross— party hearing that there will be a cross—party move next week also, oliver n, yvette cooper and hilary guildhall. they are slowly drifting in and we are expecting a statement benn to effectively put parliament to be made any next few minutes. backin benn to effectively put parliament back in the driving seat for all of giving their first reaction to the this with a series of addictive votes. —— oliver n. decision of the pbs, and i think this with a series of addictive votes. -- oliver n. what is important is to build on the work interestingly that the thatis representative was very clear to important is to build on the work that is going on, that deprive most make an explosion as to why only one is doing. lets support... we have to was being charged. they found that the other cases did not have drop this to go to the speaker. so reasonable chance of prosecution, but we are expecting to hear any minute now from the families and that the house's will could be their first reaction on this historic day. it is hand historic tested. that brought a smile to the face of the right audible gentleman. today he is disappointed that his day, and obviously this is all amendment, or that of others which taking us back to such a key moment he supports, has not been chosen. he is right to say that numbers are a in history for northern ireland 47 yea rs in history for northern ireland 47 years ago. there will be people who have now grown up factor, and he simply repeats what isa factor, and he simply repeats what is a matter of fact, the range of

years ago. there will be people who parties from which its signatories have now grown up without that backdrop, particularly here in are drawn. the chair has to make a britain, who may not understand the resonance of those events from so judgment on a variety of criteria, long ago. sojust, explain the numbers are not the only factor. breadth of support is a factor. this impact that has had on communities. place works on the assumption that it isa impact that has had on communities. it is a massive, as i say, you can't the chair does his or her best to overstate the significance of bloody sunday. it was at the height of the facilitate debate and to allow the house to speak. i have tried to make troubles, a sectarian divide in a fairjudgment northern ireland, i don't was a house to speak. i have tried to make a fair judgment with house to speak. i have tried to make a fairjudgment with a range of different points being canvassed and march of that, although had been the opportunity for the house to banned, many people hadjoined, some decide upon them. finally, what i 15,000 people marched from the say to him, and i say it with the bogside. they had wanted to get to utmost courtesy as he has cheated me the guildhall and had been stopped at the barricades. soldiers from one in the same way, it is not in respect of his last point. —— para open fire on them. it was treated me. to seek to interpret the significant because that time was purpose or effect of a particular very much a recruiting sergeant for amendment, i other people to support the catholic purpose or effect of a particular amendment, lam purpose or effect of a particular amendment, i am not going to put a

spin on the matter. the honourable community, largely the loyalist community, largely the loyalist lady can speak to her amendment, and community, and made rated divisions here in northern ireland. it also others can make their own assessment, and ultimately, if those was a catalyst for further violence matters are put to the vote, the that we saw in the years that followed. there was really a says house will decide. i have done, i am that even if you are not directly doing and will always do my best to involved, just talking to people here, there was a family member or be fairto the neighbour, everybody knows someone doing and will always do my best to be fair to the different points of who was there on bloody sunday view represented in this house. i stopped one woman said that although think we should leave it there for she was too young, her father was now. no, i am there and he was saying prayers for think we should leave it there for now. no, lam not a... order! resume your seats. i have given a ruling on those who had been shot. it still the matter which seems to me to be has enormous resonance here. one entirely reasonable. the right woman said that today would be honourable gentleman made it clear, though he was seeking clarification, highly emotional, especially for the he was not presuming to argue the older generation. even for younger toss with the chair and i think it people living in the area, a lot of people living in the area, a lot of reasonable in the circumstances with people have remained in this part of very significant numbers wishing to northern ireland, it is built into speak, that the right audible theirfamily northern ireland, it is built into their family history. this is very significant. a huge amount of work gentleman for aylesbury should be to have got to this stage, more than

called to move the emotion that stands in his name. mr speaker, i 668 witness statements were taken in the police enquiry that began after the police enquiry that began after beg to move the emotion that stands the saville inquiry. many of the on the order paper in the name of my soldiers were questioned initially, right on—board friend. but today only enough evidence on the order paper in the name of my right on-board friend. the right audible judgment is not going to argue the task, but i am happy to really a chance of successful hear his point of order if you wish prosecution in the case of soldier wishes to raise it. there might be f.i prosecution in the case of soldier f. i think the families pretty much all of those that i going to speak, some concern that the selection of amendments does not reflect the will they have gone inside, ready to take of the house, because the will of their seats as we prepare to hear from them and give their first reaction that only one out of the 17 the house cannot be expressed on an amendment house you have said, ideal soldiers is to be prosecuted. thank there has been a vote on an you. we are inside the building now, amendment, and therefore given that amendment, and therefore given that amendment to b expresses different and as you say, there are a number matters that you have chosen not to of people lined up behind select, what do we conclude from microphones, and we will hear their your own views on these matters?m reaction shortly. to the news that is not to conclude anything in one soldier, soldier f, is to be respect of my views, the audible prosecuted for the murders of james gentleman is a very exposed member

ray and butcher mckinney and for the of this house, what he can conclude from the selection is that key attempted murders ofjoseph friel, propositions will be put to the michael quinn, jo mahon and patrick house stop if people agree with those propositions, they were donnell on bloody sunday in 1972. presumably vote in support of them. the families have walked a very long if they disagree, they will path after those events. there was presumably vote against them. if the the saville inquiry, 125,000 pages honourable gentleman will forgive me asa the saville inquiry, 125,000 pages as a result of that, into the events saying so, i think that point is pretty clear. yes, of course. point of bloody sunday, passed on to the public prosecution service. the service have weighed up all of the evidence that was sent to fairway and today the announcement is that of order, point of order. now that there has been clarity of the that culminates in that one soldier selection, i am concerned because it does seem to imply heavy cost for being charged. there were charges the charger of the church i haven't considered against 17 british army to find all theirs. can we have some vetera ns considered against 17 british army veterans in all. the decision today, one soldier will be charged. we are figures associated with the cost of conducting a public vote would be? i going, while we await for everybody civilly asked for clarity. the

to settle inside, going to bring in reality for me is that the amendment is prayerfully orderly if the audible lady disapproves of it, add another guest, an expert on irish nationalist politics, a senior lecturer in irish studies at more specifically if at the liverpool university. forgive me if honourable lady wishes to ascertain i have to dive in and stop you if further and better particulars, they start to talk, but just tailors either about the meaning of the what your sense is of the impact amendment in terms of words or what is behind it in terms of the mindset today of the news that one soldier is being charged. i think your of the move are, that is a matter that will be extracted in the course of debate. point of order, caroline earlier correspondence have some setup well. there will be a degree of disappointment amongst the flint. i welcome your selection families, but i think it will have today, because although the men that little repercussions, because as you i put my name to was not selected, i are away, recently the secretary of state for northern ireland made a was disappointed but delighted that you have selected an amendment which number of statements about the will allow theirs house for the first time to vote on whether they prosecution of soldiers during the support a second referendum or not. troubles, and that led to some i thank you mr speakerfor political controversy, so i think support a second referendum or not. i thank you mr speaker for that, support a second referendum or not. i thank you mr speakerfor that, and in this house nobody should be under that these issues from the past

any illusion that there's a vote a lwa ys that these issues from the past always have an immediate political today on amendment h is about impact. i think many people in the saying, do we do we know to put a nationalist population will consider second referendum, and i urge the that some of the real issues about what happened on bloody sunday are house to oppose a second referendum. still there to be discovered, still lam sure house to oppose a second referendum. i am sure the whole house is there to be revealed. also many immensely obliged to the right audible lady for offering it as her unionist politicians will rush to the defence of the military and opinion on what the meaning or their actions on that day, so i think we will get a very polarised implications might be. if she feels better as a result, i am deeply political response, and that i think grateful, but it is purely her view, will, given the current state it does not mean anything more than anybody else's view are indeed for politics any north island, that is that matter anything less. point of the very reaction. the saville inquiry obviously sat for many order, jacob rees mogg.|j that matter anything less. point of order, jacob rees mogg. i think it would be helpful to have some yea rs. inquiry obviously sat for many years. it was 5000 pages long. it went over 12 years, costing over £2 clarification, because erskine may says selection made by the chair to million, was it a cathartic moment? bring about salient points of criticism, prevent repetition overlapping and where several men's i think it was presented as such, deal with the same point to choose and for the families to find that

out their relatives were not the the more effective. i understand government or bombers that the that your predecessor gave a memorandum to the select committee original enquiry had argued that on procedure in 1966—67 on how they were, or that the press amendments were selected. i wondered if it might be helpful if you were coverage and army comment in 1972, i to update your advice so it did not think that was cathartic. but there “ we to update your advice so it did not —— we could be clearer on how these isa think that was cathartic. but there is a wider issue in northern ireland decisions are made. i do not think about how the pastor dealt with. there has been notable complaint of although bloody sunday, as all your ambiguity. i confess, previous correspondence have indicated, was a very significant there has been notable complaint of ambiguity. iconfess, i there has been notable complaint of ambiguity. i confess, i say to colleagues that i had been accused moment, there are a number of these of many things over the years, but significant moments which still in a ambiguity and on specificity and lack of clarity in saying what i sense are unresolved. for example mean has not been one of them. if there is an inquest at the moment going on into the so—called the audible gentleman thinks that i ballymurphy massacre in august 1971 need to speak little more clearly when ten people were killed by paratroopers in belfast. the issues and to annunciate more satisfactorily, i am and to annunciate more satisfactorily, lam happy and to annunciate more satisfactorily, i am happy to benefit from his wise counsel in that really lie behind this are these matters. as far as procedure whether these actions are in a sense the actions of individual soldiers, is concerned, i am comfortable that reacting to events on the ground, or a praye rfully is concerned, i am comfortable that a prayerfully proper decision had

been made after due reflection, whether there is a responsibility further up the chain. derek welford, considerable reflection this morning the commander of the paratroopers and consultation with my who defended the actions of his men, has made a valid point that the professional advisors. the honourable gentleman's view as to soldiers on the ground reacted in a which amendment is better worded or likely to be more effective is a particular way, but it is really a view and i treated with respect, but discussion of the wider strategy, ido view and i treated with respect, but i do not think it is definitive so and for many people in the faras nationalist population, it is not i do not think it is definitive so far as the choice today is just a case of individual actions, concerned. if more widely he thinks it isa just a case of individual actions, it is a broader way of looking at that a manual on this matter for the what the british governing was doing in northern ireland, what the future would be of use, that would british army was doing. were these bea future would be of use, that would be a matter that i would be happy to discuss with him over a cup or mug just simply bad apples, things that went out of control, or were they pa rt went out of control, or were they part of a wider strategy to perhaps of traditional tea. come down hard on the nationalist population? many people still feel discuss with him over a cup or mug of traditionaltea. point discuss with him over a cup or mug of traditional tea. point of order. that these are unresolved questions, a point of detail, just to and that targeting individual soldiers or even quite junior contextualise the situation. i am interested as a junior member of commanders misses many of the senior this house to understand how these people who gave the overall orders decisions are made further. there

and decide the overall strategy. do are according to my colleague, 127 you think we will ever get answers people who have signed amendment b. to those questions? that i think is the other names which appear, there unlikely with the passage of time. are the other names which appear, there a re less the other names which appear, there are less than that between all of as you quite rightly said, both the them, many with repetition. how do director of public prosecutions in you determine what determines the will of the house where there are more people signing one i made with the saville inquiry, they amassed a than all of the others?” tremendous amount of evidence. many more people signing one i made with than all of the others? i do not documents and much of the material think there is an ambiguity on this matter. i have already made the point which i think she heard me relating to the highest strategic decisions are not available, not mate, numbers are a factor but not likely to be available in the the only factor. i have selected an immediate future. i think these sorts of issues are likely to amendment on the subject to which continue to cause controversy. all there is breadth, and that seems to the time that there are like little me to bea there is breadth, and that seems to me to be a valid choice. so far as issue in northern ireland, they will have that ability to divide and to the wider policy position is cause further controversy and concerned, as the honourable lady disagreement. bringing in a will be well aware, her own party, statement from the defence secretary, he has confirmed the the government that she supports has a clear view on this matter. i think ministry of defence will support soldier f and pay the legal costs of

it is evident to me that she shares the trial. he has said, we are indebted to those soldiers who that view, and if she disapproves of served with courage and distinctions to bring peace to northern ireland. the amendment, she will be able to the welfare of our former personnel register her view, quite possibly in the debate, but if it has put to the is important and we will offer full house,in support to the individual affected the debate, but if it has put to the house, in the division lobby. if not put to the house, she would end any by today's decision, including all case not be disquieted. i think the his legal course and welfare support. the mod is working across position is clear. can i welcome government to deliver a new package your selection of amendment i come of safeguards to ensure our armed forces are off which the whole host should know of safeguards to ensure our armed forces a re not of safeguards to ensure our armed forces are not unfairly treated and the government will reform the system for dealing with legacy it isa off which the whole host should know it is a disguised amendment aimed at issues our service personnel cannot securing a second referendum? and i live in constant fear of seek your guidance on this one prosecution. will this open old point? the amended any name of the wounds... i was there, we are now memberof hearing from the families. we have point? the amended any name of the member of north—east somerset, it has twice as many signatories, is cross party and is also very clear had one soldier, soldier f, and he was had one soldier, soldier f, and he was responsible for the murder of in its intent. can you explain in five individuals that day. he has relation to the memorandum which are been put in the frame for two, which predecessor submitted in times past is william mckinley and jim ray, and

that the member for north—east the entry of four others. so their somerset refer to, can you update the house in terms of the guidance victory is our victory. add in terms of the basis on which selections are made?” add in terms of the basis on which selections are made? i have explained those matters. i have applause known him well for many years but i think he is misleading himself, and i wouldn't want him to be affected by that curse. when he refers to the to deny people their human rights is oddball member for north—east somerset's field amendment, as a to challenge their very shimano t, non—selected, he means north—east said nelson mandela. we will walk derbyshire. they are quite a long the long journey since our fathers way apart, there you go. i have and brothers were brutally already explained the basis on which slaughtered on the streets of derry the chair tries to make a judgment on bloody sunday. over that passage of time, all the parents of the to facilitate the key issues being deceased have died. we are here to ta ke deceased have died. we are here to take their place. bloody sunday was debated in the chamber. i have said it may be that the honourable gentleman does not like my answer, notjust a take their place. bloody sunday was not just a wanton act carried out by but that has my honest answer which a trade army against defenceless i would defend to this house and civil rights activists. it also created a deep legacy of hurt and indeed to the world. more widely i say that he is alex deeply assiduous injustice. it deepened and prolonged member, but! a bloody conflict unimaginable even say that he is alex deeply assiduous member, but i am not sure the member in those dark winter days of 1972.

for leeds central world take the full cost of bloody sunday particularly currently to the cannot be measured in terms of those characterisation that the audible who suffered that day. it must also gentleman for dover has offered of that amendment. i doubt the right be measured in terms of those who suffered because of that terrible audible judgment would accept that characterisation, so it is his day. we have just been informed of opinion if he is called to speak in the debate, he will have the this series of charges. they are opportunity to express it, and i easy to read. one soldier, soldier hope that will satisfy him at least for now. quite a border, richard f. easy to read. one soldier, soldier f, multiple murderer, has been charged with two murders and for attempted murders. good morning, graham. from the vote offers, i understand that one of the amendments, amendment r, has subsequently been amended from the everybody. we the families of the list of manuscripts amendments and murdered and wounded and derry on thatis list of manuscripts amendments and that is currently available at the bloody sunday today here the vote office add that they are decision by the pps to charge just intending to distribute the revised one british paratrooper for amendment in due course. could you decision by the pps to charge just one british paratrooperfor his murderous actions on the 30th of confirm if that is correct? january 1972. this announcement is further indication of our decades i don't wish to be unkind were do long campaign to clear the names of the honourable gentleman, i'm not our loved ones and to bring those

sure when he graced us with his responsible for the deaths and presence. it is a great pleasure to injuries tojustice. responsible for the deaths and injuries to justice. when the bloody have him here. 0h, sundayjustice campaign presence. it is a great pleasure to have him here. oh, if he is indicating he was here... the injuries to justice. when the bloody sunday justice campaign was injuries to justice. when the bloody sundayjustice campaign was launched in1992, we sundayjustice campaign was launched in 1992, we had three clear demands. to have the whitewash overturned and speakerjohn bercow selecting four replaced by an independent enquiry. amendments to be voted on later by to gaina mps. they include one tabled by the replaced by an independent enquiry. to gain a formal acknowledgement of the innocence of all our loved ones independent group mp sarah woolston, and to prosecute those responsible, which seeks extension to article 50 and to prosecute those responsible, and with today's news we now achieve in order to have another referendum. our third and with today's news we now achieve ourthird aim. there is a amendment selected from labour's hilary benn which seeks to however, we have also faced the allow m ps labour's hilary benn which seeks to allow mps to take control of the disappointing news that in some brexit processed through a series of cases, there will not be prosecutions. we are mindful of indicative votes. a labour amendment those families who received that which notes that parliament has news today. believe me, there are decisively rejected both theresa many. we would like to remind may's steel and no deal and ask for a delay to brexit to find everyone that no prosecution, or if parliamentary time for a different it comes to it, or no conviction, approach. and the fourth amendment does not mean not guilty. it does selected for voting later is from labourmp

not mean no crime was selected for voting later is from labour mp chris bryant, to stop does not mean not guilty. it does not mean no crime was committed. it does not mean those soldiers acted theresa may from coming back for ina does not mean those soldiers acted in a dignified and appropriate way. meaningful vote three. interestingly, and some of the it simply means that if these crimes discussion you have just seen has have been investigated properly when been about, mr bercow did not select they happened and the evidence an amendment from the erg, the gathered at the time, then the outcome would have been different. pro—brexit european research group of mps, which sought to rule out a note we that lord saville's report second referendum. so quite a lot of findings on the actions of soldiers controversy in the house about that just now. very charged atmosphere, that day and all the casualties were not just over the amendments either intended targets of the just now. very charged atmosphere, notjust over the amendments but the selection of amendments. let's soldiers or the results of shots fired indiscriminately at people. discuss that. out what you make of that those soldiers fired in the amendment selected ? discuss that. out what you make of the amendment selected? john bercow talking about breadth of choice, do response “— you agree? he has gone four that those soldiers fired in response —— that no soldiers fired in response to attacks or threatened attacks. that no soldiers fired in a amendments which have most cross— party amendments which have most cross—party support. so the state of panic and that soldiers independent group amendment also has support from lib dems, snp and plaid cymru. hilary benn also has fired ina state of panic and that soldiers fired in a belief that anyone was... significant support from parties

across the house and he also 0r fired in a belief that anyone was... or not caring that anyone was posing selected the official opposition any sort of threat. these are not amendments. there has been some controversy amendments. there has been some co ntrove rsy over amendments. there has been some controversy over the fa ct the sort of comments levelled at amendments. there has been some controversy over the fact he didn't select the erg and dup amendments. i innocent people. the passage of time think that was based on the fact has made the charges difficult in there are only two parties this case and in our cases, but the supporting it, but it is up to the speaker to decide. it will be passage of time should not be used asa passage of time should not be used as a form of blanket immunity to interesting to see how many people vote in favour of sarah woolston's defeat proper investigations. amendments, which looks to back a second referendum ? everyone to serve justice, including amendments, which looks to back a those whose loved ones were murdered second referendum? it definitely does, i think it will be the first by the british state. there can be time we have seen an amendment no statute of limitations used to specifically supporting a second referendum and be selected by the denyjustice, no speaker. it will be interesting to see if there is anything close to a no statute of limitations used to majority for that. and the erg may deny justice, no new laws no statute of limitations used to denyjustice, no new laws used to protect state killers. but for us draw inferences on that. what will here it is important to point out be key on that is that the labour thatjustice for one here it is important to point out that justice for one family is front bench has said that they do, justice for all of us.

applause in theory, support a second referendum, as long as they are brexit option is rejected. they have opted not to table an amendment to that effect today, but there will be a question of how they choose to whip football if they feel their we stand in full solidarity with those of us whose loved ones' death vision for brexit is on the table, maybe they won't. sooner or later, a or injury has not been included in the announcement of prosecutions. we also stand to complete the majority of mps have to say yes to solidarity with the hundreds of something. whether that is sooner or families who have had to endure later depends on extension, if that's voted through, and how long that's voted through, and how long that extension might be. europe decades without an inquest, criminal sounding quite open to that being investigation and had been left to struggle for basic human justice. longer, potentially, this morning?” think that's what theresa may's investigation and had been left to struggle for basic humanjustice. we hope ourcampaign struggle for basic humanjustice. we hope our campaign continues to be an inspiration to them. proposal is asking for. either a applause short extension to allow the necessary legislation to get her deal through, otherwise they will good morning. today's decision, have to delay much longer, hold european elections are discuss what although 47 years overdue, is the parliament wants. and that hilary right one. if we are up to uphold

benn amendment about taking control the rule of law and hold of parliamentary time is about having a chance to have those discussions. we go back to the perpetrators accountable for their crimes. however, we also say that commons where david lidington is the scope of the new police investigation was not wide enough. speaking. in line with the emotion and we assert that the repeated that this house subsequently passed last thursday, the house must failure to properly investigate the actions of those who planted nail consider the issue of extending article 50. i want to, before... i bombs on the body of my uncle, will give way, but before i do so, i 17—year—olds, is unacceptable. the wa nt to saville report left a stain on will give way, but before i do so, i want to say to honourable members on all sides of the house, my intention gerard's innocence that this will be to set out first the investigation could have removed. but it did not do so. we repeat our government's case for the emotion that we have tabled today, and the nature of the decision that we call for this injustice to be addressed. and while we as a group believe faces all of us as members of families and individuals may have of this house. and then i will come different views on whether or not u nto of this house. and then i will come unto address the various amendments that you have selected for debate the soldiers who carried out the shootings should face jail. or how today, mr speaker. so i hope

long they should spend in jail. we collea g u es today, mr speaker. so i hope colleagues will contain any impatience, i will come to speak are all agreed that they should face about the amendments. i will give the due process of the law. and they should do so in public. the very few way. i'm grateful, iwonder if to soldiers that were charged during about the amendments. i will give way. i'm grateful, i wonder if you could clear up any confusion around the conflict here were named, and item two in the emotion that the conflict here were named, and the same should apply to those being suggests the withdrawal agreement and political declaration that is charged now. killers should not benefit from anonymity. currently on the table will have to be voted on again by the 20th of applause march. will he be bringing meaningful vote three by the 20th of march? i hope that once i'm able to we maintain that key individuals in make a little bit of progress beyond the army, in politics and beyond, should also be held to account for my introductory paragraph that i will be able to provide the their actions on that day. this honourable gentlemen and others with an explanation of the different front must also be rectified if elements of the government's's motion. yes? this provides an justice is to be truly done. and seem to be done. if the police officer in charge of the day of the opportunity for the minister to

clarify in setting out the hillsborough tragedy can face government's was my case for us, he prosecution, then so too it can will know that a cabinet minister those who are in charge on bloody yesterday, from the dispatch box, sunday. basically said that more powers would be given to dublin to be applause exercised over northern ireland. the minister will know how insulting there cannot be one law for the thatis minister will know how insulting that is to members who sit on this military and political elites and bench, and we will also know that it one law for the others. thank you. is the ministers who sit on this bench to keep his party in power. with the minister now care to and finally, the should be no clarify that the secretary spake misspoke from that dispatch box and further delay in dealing with the outstanding demands of the families there will be no involvement on the of bloody sunday and the people of derry. we call on all those who will internal affairs of northern ireland administer the next stage to move from other governments?” with all speed to bring this to a conclusion. we call on all involved internal affairs of northern ireland from other governments? i want to say two things in response, first of to operate fully and not indulge in any more delaying tactics. we call all, the government's position has been absolutely consistent on this, on the crown prosecution service to complete this process and reach a from the prime minister down, that decision on whether or not anyone is we stand by every aspect of the to be charged for perjury in relation to the evidence to the

three—stranded process embodied in bloody sunday inquiry. we call on the belfast good friday agreement. the attorney general to investigate and by the piece—a building process re ce nt the attorney general to investigate recent comments about these prosecutions being made by prominent in northern ireland. and i can put petitions, including the british on the record, mr speaker, there are minister of defence, and decide if absolutely no plans at all to they too broke the law. if they transpire additional powers or have, they should be charged. they rights to the government of ireland. cannot attempt to interfere in the judicial processjust cannot attempt to interfere in the judicial process just because they there are certain rights of consultation that flow from the don't like it or their voters don't like it. the dead cannot cry out for pre—stranded process, and those, clearly, we need to observe. on the justice, it is the duty of the living to do so for them. we have specific comments that he attributed cried out for them for many years, to the environment secretary, i will and now we have succeeded for them. remind him! to the environment secretary, i will remind him i was not here yesterday, do not deny us justice asi remind him i was not here yesterday, as i was attending a family funeral. and now we have succeeded for them. do not deny usjustice any and now we have succeeded for them. do not deny us justice any longer. thank you. but i'm quite sure my honourable friend will hear of this applause intervention and he will consider whether he needs to make any further comment on that subject. i will give

way comment on that subject. i will give way once more, and comment on that subject. i will give way once more, and then i do want to proceed with the substance of the debate. i'm grateful, he can help the house from here. i'm not arguing press ask questions. with the referee, i have accepted the decision. amendment h is, in this is not the end of it. we will effect, a vote in principle as to continue on and hopefully bring the whether or not have a second re st of continue on and hopefully bring the rest of the perpetrators to justice referendum as it calls for the time because of the legal means to get to legislate for it and for it to them prosecuted before the courts. ta ke to legislate for it and for it to take place. so it's clear what it's so the campaign, the bloody sunday asking for. that being the case, as families, are not finished yet. it's been the government's long—standing policy to oppose a second referendum, will the applause chancellor that are ta ken second referendum, will the chancellor that are taken from now, at the dispatch box, that the government will oppose amendment h question is asked. and will whip mps accordingly? and ministers! mr speaker, as i

at the ministry of defence has just said they will be funding soldier indicated earlier, i plan to address all the amendments you selected in f's legal expenses entirely and my speech, but i hope to provide kevin williamson says the welfare of some reassurance to my right honourable friend if i say the government's collectively agreed policy as regards to the second soldiers of the utmost importance. how do you about that? i'm not sure referendum has not changed. mr speaker, i should be clear, that in i got the full question? how do you seeking an extension to article 50 feel about the uk government saying the welfare of the soldiers of the is not something the government ever upmost priority? we're not surprised wanted to have to do. we believe about that. of course they're going that we negotiated a good deal for this country and one that also respected the result of the to fund them, they're going to look referendum and would have allowed after them, they've been looking the united kingdom to leave the after them, they've been looking european union on the 29th of march after them, they've been looking after them for 40 years. we force this year. but it is by rejecting them into an apology and an that a deal that the decisions of enquiring. no—one is surprised at the house have brought us to this the british government's behaviour point today. but i think it is important for all honourable

anyway. just checking, was the members, from whichever political party they come, to acknowledge that the path ahead and the choices that confront us as a house are far from bloody sunday campaign take any consideration to making a civil case straightforward. we need to decide against the soldier, because a how long an extension to propose and different standard of evidence we need to put that proposal to the applies? we already have taken civil european council before they meet next week, in order to seek cases against the ministry of agreement from the 27 member states. defence. all of those cases have so and if the honourable gentleman will forgive me, iwant far been concluded successfully. and if the honourable gentleman will forgive me, i want to make progress. significant damages have been paid, as the prime minister set of the house last night, this means facing which underscore the innocence, the up house last night, this means facing up to some difficult choices. in a total innocence, of all the persons particular, it means understanding short dead and wounded. there are a the interaction of the article 50 handful of those cases still to be process with the european parliament resolved and we anticipate that all elections scheduled for may this the civil cases will be concluded by year. that's why this morning, the government posted a short, factual the civil cases will be concluded by the end of the summer term, by the document expending the parameters of end ofjune. any extension and why the government

tabled for ford today's debate is a stark one, because we have to options before us. i give way. i'm sure the minister this morning question is asked. donald tusk said i will be appealing no, i question is asked. no, lam question is asked. no, i am not. to the european union to be open to applause a long extension. what is the reaction to that? we are clear that i'm no hero, even this gentleman that long extension is definitely required. the honourable member will sitting beside me, he was a first bear with me, i was intending to make reference to donald tusk's aider, helping people to get back to life. comments. he will not be surprised applause to hear i will not be supporting the motion this evening. but what i would like to ask, at this present message does my right honourable friend think it would centre those time, legislation is trying to get we represent arts, nearly three pushed through westminster, the holy yea rs we represent arts, nearly three years after voting to leave the

european union, we held elections to grail of... saying that they are the european parliament?” european union, we held elections to the european parliament? i think that a great many people will feel going to try and push back the time that a great many people will feel that that was an act which had set back to' 68, whereas from' 73 on aside a decision that they took in a democratic referendum three years that people who don't have anything ago and that was part of the case that those of us on the government to do with the troubles got benches put to the house in sentences. i'm afraid these boys are going to push it through so these advocating endorsement of the deal murderers are going to get away. how which was said earlier from the opposition benches is the only one on the table. i give way.” do you feel about that? the position is that the soldier who is four now apologise if he is going to answer known as lance corporal f, when he this point later on. the motion from the government talks about an extension to allow the progression ultimately faces charges, we would of legislation to the 30th ofjune. expect that anonymity is stripped of but the letter exchanged between donald tusk and jean—claude juncker says we would have to be out by the him. ithink 22nd of may do not trigger the expect that anonymity is stripped of him. i think you are also making the obligation to take part in new

point that well this person serve a elections. could you explain the life sentence if he's convicted of difference in those states? a multiple murder and attempted serious question, but i do appealed murder? the true position is, there for patience from honourable members, because i do want to set hasn't been a british soldier convicted of murder who has served a out the reasons for the government is my choice of motion and nature of life sentence yet. the most that any the choice before the house. i'll give way one last time and then make progress. in terms of what people of the previous cases have served is three years. so we are saying that we re progress. in terms of what people were expecting during the election, he will be aware that the vote lead the royal prerogative of mercy should not be given to soldier f if campaign made it clear leaving the eu would be a careful change and we he is ultimately convicted of these won't be leaving until after the crimes. thank you. future relationship was resolved. at their website still says that now. applause did people not vote on the understanding that we would take time to leave without making rash decisions? with all due respect to the honourable member, i'm responsible for many things as a memberof the responsible for many things as a member of the government, but i suspect not one of my honourable friends would want me to assert ijust want

i just want to congratulate all the responsibility for what the vote families on your dignified leave campaign it said at any stage determination through the campaign. in the past or present. i give way applause and then! in the past or present. i give way and then i do want to make progress. my applause my father was shot by paratroopers with my right honourable friend in august 1971, he was shot four confirm it now on the floor of the times. but you have shown us the right road to go. you have tried house that the fact that exit date may or may not be extended does not ha rd to right road to go. you have tried hard to correct history, that's what affect the fact that, under section one of the withdrawal act 2018, that you have done today. the ones from goat royal assent last year, that the repeal of the european communities act takes effect melbourne the —— the ones from ballymurphy who were murdered in 1971 congratulate you. notwithstanding any extension of time, as prescribed by that act?” applause would say that the government has givena would say that the government has given a commitment that, in the event of the house voting in favour

ofan event of the house voting in favour of an extension and the european council agreeing to an extension, the government would bring forward the government would bring forward the necessary legislation in line with the expressed wishes of the if there are no further questions, we will break. we're going to call a house. i give way and then i will make progress. the right honourable gentleman said a few moments ago that there is just one deal minute silence for all those who available. there is another deal we re minute silence for all those who available. there is another deal available which is the deal enjoyed were murdered on a bloody sunday. a by 27 other members of the european union, and that is full membership. minute's silence, please. that is the best deal anybody can have, and he knows that. the entire parliament knows that is the best deal. so in terms of deals, will you please also remember the best deal is still available and we can revoke up is still available and we can revoke up until the 29th of march, article 50, cancel brexit and this is over in an afternoon. as a matter of law, the honourable gentleman is correct, and following the judgment of the european courts, it is very clear

that the united kingdom does have the power, unilaterally, to revoke its article 50 notification before exit today. the argument is not a legal one, it is a political one, as to whether it can possibly be right for this house to determine to set aside a decision that was taken it democratically in a referendum in 2016 and which produced a higher turnout than at any recent general election and to which almost every political party at the time said we would treat as decisive. so it is a politicaljudgment. would treat as decisive. so it is a political judgment. i'm not would treat as decisive. so it is a politicaljudgment. i'm not going to give way again for the moment. david lidington they are saying that seeking an extension to article 50,

a framework by which the uk would exit the eu, it was not something the government ever wanted to do. mark francois, the mp from the erg group, the brexit supporting european research group, asking him if the government would oppose one of the amendments that the speaker has selected for voting on later, the sarah walston amendment seeking a second referendum. that one of four amendments selected byjohn bercow for voting later. he didn't select one from the erg group, which was doing at the opposite to cerro walston's amendments, and that was one from them asking the government or parliament to rule out a second referendum. another developer to tell you about, arlene foster, the dup leader, has confirmed the dup is

in talks with the government and attorney general about reaching an agreement on a brexit deal. she says any agreement still has to stand up to the dup tests. but we've been hearing talk today of the attorney general seeking to add to his legal opinion which he delivered earlier in the week about the deal that theresa may struck in strasbourg earlier this week. with me now to try and we threw some of the technicalities what's going on is chris morris. first of all, what are mps going to be voting on tonight is seeking to extend article 50. reminds us what article 50 is? let's get back to basics, we use this dragon every day. it refers to the article 50 of the lisbon treaty, it sets out how a country can't leave. obviously, it has never been used before. some of the language and it

is deliberately vague, but it does set out a two—your period to negotiate a withdrawal agreement. we're done that, but it has not been approved in parliament. that two—year period ends on march the 29th, so the current position is deal or no deal, that is when we will leave if nothing changes. so what is the technical and legal process for changing article 50? one thing you can do is revoke it, not really on the agenda at the moment, but some people want to do that. that would mean you get rid of article 50 altogether and brexit would be cancelled. that can be done unilaterally by the uk without agreement of anyone else. what is at issue today is the potential for extending article 50. that's more complicated, because it needs to be in effect uk request but all the 27 eu countries need to agree. they would all need to agree. we also need to change uk law, because at

the moment much the 29th set in law is the date of departure. that can be done relatively easily through secondary legislation, but it is another step that would have to be taken if the government ask for an extension and the eu approves it. how long it might article 50 be extended for? there are a few possibilities. the question is what with the extension before and how long would it last? we have a graphic which sets out some of the possibilities. a short extension to the middle of may, shouldn't prove too difficult. that would to facilitate turning into a law a last—minute deal. the bomb on the road is in the middle there, the european parliamentary elections at the end of may. they say that if the uk is still a member state at that stage, it has to take part in those elections. other say, stage, it has to take part in those elections. othersay, no, because the new paramount doesn't meet until the new paramount doesn't meet until the 2nd ofjuly, when meps are sworn

in, so we have until the end of june. the other option is potentially for 21 months up until the end of december 2020. some say that's not possible that taking part in european elections, others disagree. the senior british legal person in the european court of justice said today on twitter that if there is the political will for a long extension, a legal mechanism can be found. one problem is there could be a legal challenge from people saying that they were not representative by meps and they have a right to be, at that point, national mps could be appointed for a short period of time. but if you have a long extension, that would be buying time for those who want to hold another referendum and stop

brexit. let see if we have any clear idea of the direction of travel after the votes later on. i was mentioning comments from arlene foster, who's in washington. she is basically saying, get the dup to sign up to any deal from theresa may, that deal must show the constitutional integrity of the uk is the same. we are speaking to the government and the attorney general, we have always said we wanted a deal and we are talking to them around all of that. we hope that can be the case, because nobody wants to leave without a deal. we know that is bad for the whole of the united kingdom and we want to make sure we get there. is about the attorney general changing his legal advice or adding to it? no, we are in talks with the government, it is notjust about the

attorney general changing his advice, it is about finding the right deal for northern ireland and the whole united kingdom. northern ireland cannot be left behind in the european union while the rest of the uk leaves. when the sender may be another meaningful vote next week, what will it mean for the dup to change spies, because brexit is two weeks away? i have constantly said to people like yourself, when you come to the edge of negotiation, that's when you really start to see the whites of peoples eyes, and you get to the point where you make a deal. we want there to be a deal, that's what we're focusing on. so could there be an 11th hour rescue of the deal from the dup? it will be interesting what the dup decides, because we have heard from other known dup but brexitand supporting ministers saying, if the

dup are why shouldn't they be? this was down to the backstop, the plan to avoid a heart border on the island of ireland. later on this afternoon, we will be live from westminster as mps prepare to vote on whether to seek an extension to article 50, delaying the departure from the european union. and those amendments i've been telling you about in the last short while as well. you can watch it here on the news channel from 4:45pm. you can also watch on the website and listen online at radio 5 live. back to the studio. a former member of the parachute regiment — known only as soldier f — is to be charged with two murders and four attempted murders on bloody sunday in 1972. 13 civil rights demonstrators were shot dead in londonderry on one of the most notorious days

of northern ireland's troubles. 16 otherformer soldiers who were also investigated will not face prosecution. the bbc‘s former northern ireland corresponded explained that while the families may be disappointed with the project, there is not enough evidence to convict in other cases. the director of public prosecutions has said there is not enough evidence for the prospect of securing a conviction in the case of 17 soldiers and two official ira men who also fired shots on the day of bloody sunday. only one soldier, soldier f, has been charged with two cou nts soldier f, has been charged with two counts of murder. he's been charged with murdering james wray and william mckinney and the attempted murders ofjoseph friel, patrick o'donnell, michael quinn and joe mahon had. it says there is

insufficient evidence to provide a reasonable prospect of conviction in the other cases, but there is sufficient evidence available to charge former soldier f. he was described as soldier f in the saville tribunal, and that nomenclatural has been carried over into this one. so only one soldier is to be charged with anything, that is to be charged with anything, that is soldier f, who will be charged with two murders and four attempted murders. what is direction likely to be from the families?” murders. what is direction likely to be from the families? i would guess they would be disappointed, because what they have said all along as they want justice, which what they have said all along as they wantjustice, which i think tra nslates they wantjustice, which i think translates as seeing people who fired rifles on that day being brought before the courts. but the trouble is, you can't really argue with this from that point of view, if you've spent nine years since the saville inquiry re—interviewing hundreds of witnesses and the 20

suspects, 18 soldiers, one of whom died last year, and the two official ira men that i mentioned, it's taking nine years to get to this point. the prosecution can be faulted for this —— cannot be faulted for this —— cannot be faulted for this —— cannot be faulted for the thoroughness of this, and they do not feel they have the evidence to support a conviction on the other cases, but they do feel there is enough evidence against soldier f. on the other hand, i feel there will be politicians and former and current soldiers who will be very disappointed indeed, very angry, and feel betrayed that any soldier is to face prosecution. all the latest coming up in the one o'clock news. first, the weather. sunshine and showers across the country, the rain clearing away from southern parts of england, lingering

in the far south west. still winter, up in the far south west. still winter, up to gale force winds. they are easing down but only for a while, they will pick up again overnight as rain comes in from the atlantic. turning showery and colder across northern scotland, three degrees here, double figures likely in south west england and south wales. we start friday with outbreaks of rain, lingering in the south west, but writing up elsewhere. some showers elsewhere, most in scotland, they could be wintry over the hills, and feeling chillier. particular to the east of the pennines, temperatures up east of the pennines, temperatures up to 14 degrees in the south east as it brightens up. into the weekend, snow over northern hills, heavy rain, gales and that's just saturday.