tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News March 22, 2019 10:00am-11:00am GMT
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hello, it's friday, it's ten o'clock, i'm joanna gosling brexit is not happening a week today but the new deadline for theresa may to get her deal through parliament looms. if the withdrawal agreement is passed by the house of commons next week, the european council agreed to an extension until the 22nd of may. in the second scenario, if the withdrawal agreement is not approved by the house of commons next week, the european council agreed to an extension until the 20th april, 12th, 12th of april! laughter. while expecting the uk to indicate the way forward.
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i hope we can all agree we are now at the moment of decision. and i will make every effort to ensure that we are able to leave with a deal and move our country forward. we've brought together a bunch of voters, most of whom voted to leave the eu, to ask them if developments over the last few months, weeks and even hours have changed what they want to happen next. the parents of an autistic woman who died after being hit by a lorry have told this programme they feel completely vindicated after a coronerfound there had been multiple failures in her care. colette mcculloch‘s mum and dad, andy and amanda mcculloch, are here to talk to us after the inquest into their daugher‘s death found it was "an avoidable tragedy". and our month—long project in which we challenged a house full of students to live more sustainability and reduce their impact on the environment has come to an end. we'll be catching up with all of them to find out whether they're going to change their ways.
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hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. the prime minister says she's delivering what you want. do you want mps to back her agreement and just get on with it? or would you be happy with a longer delay or a no—deal brexit? do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about. use the hashtag #victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you and maybe want to take part in the programme please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. first, the news. eu leaders have given the uk an extra two months until the 22nd of may to complete the brexit process if mps accept theresa may's deal next week. but if the commons rejects the deal,
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the extension will last only until the 12th of april, and britain will have to indicate what it wants to do. the prime minister has welcomed the decision and at a news conference in brussels last night, struck a conciliatory note towards mps, after blaming them for the brexit crisis in her downing street address on wednesday night. last night, i expressed my frustration, and i know that mps are frustrated too. they have difficultjobs to do. i hope we can all agree we are now at the moment of decision. i will make every effort to make sure we are able to leave with a deal and move our country forward. the government spending watchdog, the national audit office, has found big variations in how long patients in different parts of england have to wait to start cancer treatment. it said there were also delays for routine surgery and warned that a rise in waiting times could lead to an increase in negligence claims against the nhs.
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in new zealand, thousands of people have observed two minutes‘ silence in memory of the 50 victims of last friday's mass shootings at mosques in christchurch. special ceremonies and prayer services took place across the country to mark a week on from the killings. a mass funeral for 30 of the dead is also taking place today. police searching for 21—year—old libby squire have confirmed a body recovered from the humber estuary is that of the missing hull university student. during the initial investigation, a 24—year—old man was arrested on suspicion of abduction. he's been remanded in custody on unrelated charges, and remains under investigation. adverts claiming autism can be cured are to be banned by the uk's advertising standards authority. the advertising watchdog has ordered 150 homeopaths to stop claiming they can cure autism with a treatment that claims to detox heavy metals, vaccines and antibiotics from the child's system.
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national rail says there are major problems at waterloo station in london, and on the lines running into and out of the station, because of overrunning engineering work. it's warning that trains will be subject to major delays, with some services cancelled or amended at short notice. that is a summary of our news this morning. so, britain is now not leaving the eu a week today, a date set into law two years ago. eu leaders have agreed to delay brexit, but how long for? if mps reject mrs may's brexit deal again when they vote on it possibly next week, the eu says brexit can be delayed for two weeks. so, the uk would have until april the 12th to tell the eu what we want to do next. that could be leave without a deal, ask for more time with another extension, or even revoke article 50. the eu says a longer extension would only possible if the uk agrees
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to take part in the european elections in may. but if mps finally approve the prime minister's deal, then, brexit can be delayed slightly longer to give the government time to pass the necessary legislation, and we'll leave the eu on may the 22nd. yesterday, after speaking to eu leaders in brussels, she gave her reaction to the outcome of the meeting. let's hear what she had to say. what the decision today underlines is the importance of the house of commons passing a brexit deal next week so that we can bring an end to the uncertainty and leave in a smooth and orderly manner. tomorrow morning, i will be returning to the uk and working hard to build support for getting the deal through. i know mps on all sides of the debate have passionate views and i respect those different positions. last night, i expressed my frustration, and i know that mps are frustrated, too. they have difficultjobs to do. i hope that we can all agree we are now at the moment of decision
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and i will make every effort to ensure that we are able to leave with a deal and move our country forward. we are expecting theresa may to return to downing street at any moment. lots of people arriving there. we are hearing she arrived by there. we are hearing she arrived by the back door to avoid the media at the back door to avoid the media at the front door. let's go over there now and talk to our correspondent ben wright. the eu deciding the timetable. what is likely to happen next, is it any more likely mps will support ideal? the eu has released —— relieved some of the pressure. the question whether her deal will go through is still pertinent. that is one route, that brexit can happen still if the deal positively parliament next week, then the uk will leave on may
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22. allowing time for the additional legislation to go through. it remains a massive if, looking unlikely a few days ago. it is looking less likely now. hard to see that anything in brussels will swing brexit is who hate the deal behind it all convinced the dup or win enough labour mps to can —— to get the deal through. we are looking at plan b presented to the prime minister by the eu which will involve a couple of weeks of parliament and the government trying to come up finally with a consensus around an alternative, that could be around an alternative, that could be a reworked political declaration, a twea k to a reworked political declaration, a tweak to the deal, or something more significant, perhaps another referendum, even a revocation of article 50, no one is sure where it will go. after months of talking about the government and parliament talking across, we are at that
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moment now, as parliament tries to sift through what its preference for brexit really is at this late stage. brexit really is at this late stage. brexit will not be happening next friday. the cliff edge has been moved on three weeks, it could still happen on april the 12th unless there is suddenly now a fresh agreement found here. thank you. adam fleming is in brussels for us. the ball is squarely in westminster‘s court, what are the next moves from there? what they are doing now is having a ceremony to mark 25 —— to mark the european economic area. later today we will get the official legal written version of what the eu leaders agreed last night which will allow the eu to officially sign up to this plan to delay brexit and make the new cliff edge the 12th of april. there were three big things to bear in mind to help you
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understand how the eu has ended up in this position with the uk. first, the 27 other leaders last night were left concerned about the situation in british politics after they spoke to theresa may. some saying it was her performance to blame, others are saying she just reflects what is happening in the uk and the problem is british politics not her leadership. the second thing is eu leaders did not want to be confronted with another emergency summit next week, hours away from a potential no—deal brexit, where they would shoulder some of the blame and have to find the solution themselves. the third thing is, they realised the importance of the european parliament elections which will take place across europe from 23rd until 26th may. there would be serious problems if the uk were half in, half out of the eu, which is why
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they have set that date of 12th april. that date did not come out of nowhere, that is the last point at which the uk could say it was going to participate in european parliament elections which it would have to do if the extension were to be longer than 22nd may, or if the uk was even going to stay in the eu ona uk was even going to stay in the eu on a permanent basis. but what do people really want? in a moment we'll talk to some voters but first let's take a look at some of the latest opinion polls. the polling company yougov published two surveys last week — they indicated thatjust13% of people overall think mrs may's deal would represent a good outcome for the country, while 40% feel its passage would be a bad outcome. however, there are signs that some leave voters are now inclined to feel that mps should vote for the deal anyway. yougov found that around a third of all voters now say mps should vote for the deal.
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previously, onlyjust over a quarter had expressed that view. meanwhile, when asked about delaying brexit, yougov found a stark contrast between leave and remain voters. 76% of remain voters were in favour of a delay, whereas 73% of leave supporters were opposed. remainers and leavers also have very different views about how long an extension would be acceptable. according to hanbury research, 53% of leave voters would find it acceptable. but only 20% would consider a six month delay. in the studio now, we've got five voters from around the country. this william tucker. tony murray. lorraine parkinson. and nick thompson. they all voted to leave. except nick who voted to remain but now supports brexit. and emma knuckeyjoins us on skype from essex. she voted to leave but now regrets it and is supporting a second referendum. welcome to all of you. so, no brexit
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a week from today, your reaction to that? iam that? i am disgusted in a way. i thought we should leave on a no—deal brexit next week. therese me kept telling us we were next week. therese me kept telling us we were going to leave. now it has been delayed again. it seems like we are in a worse position now than the day after the referendum. how do you see it? i am not happy with how theresa may has organised oui’ with how theresa may has organised our exit out of the eu. i think it has been handled really badly. i would have liked to have had still a no—deal on the table because that is oui’ no—deal on the table because that is our leveraged. nobody wants a no—deal. it still could happen. it still could happen but at the end of the day parliament has said they do not wa nt day parliament has said they do not want a no—deal. there are a lot of shenanigans, a lot of people are using this as a political football,
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saying, and i can imagine there is a group of remainers how they can subvert the whole process. one is to ta ke subvert the whole process. one is to take no deal of the table, one is all these last—minute amendments. eventually, people get... your favoured choice would be no deal. william? i agree with you. we were talking about this. what has happened is there is a cab all of mps who think there is a third brexit deal. not a no—deal or remaining in the eu, not theresa may's deal, but another option. they are kicking the can down the road. it is crunch time, what do you want? i would go for no deal now. what i object to... we will come back to why not theresa may's deal. nick? i voted to remain. when the referendum result was cast to leave,
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it was a big shock to me. what i have found is over time, it has done some good for our business. right now, this is driving me around the bend. we need a decision, to have a deal, and get things sorted. what would you think about a no—deal brexit? it would be disastrous. we have a sensible deal on the table which is not perfect. theresa may is between a rock and a hard place. what would you plump for if the deal does not get through, it is not looking likely, would you want a no—deal or an extension? an extension, although it is too difficult a situation, like being asked which of you would want chopped off? neither is pleasant. for us, an extension willjust cause more uncertainty and affect business. there seems to be no limit to the reason a forcing through this deal. even the eu is trying to make mps
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vote it through. it is ridiculous. they should be voting on what is best for the country and not what the eu once with an extension. emma, you are joining the eu once with an extension. emma, you arejoining us on skype. are you ok to talk? what do you want to happen? for me, i feel it is so much bigger. i voted leave and i regret that decision. i would i voted leave and i regret that decision. iwould put i voted leave and i regret that decision. i would put it to the people. so many did not get a say. the british in europe included. they did not have a say. i feel as well i'io did not have a say. i feel as well no deal was... i want tojust put it to the people, that is the best way
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forward , to the people, that is the best way forward, to have a democratic say. you seem quite emotional about it. lam. you seem quite emotional about it. iam.| you seem quite emotional about it. lam. ijust you seem quite emotional about it. i am. ijust worry about so many people. i never voted... i am. ijust worry about so many people. i nevervoted... i never voted that it would affect the nhs. i never voted for no deal. even borisjohnson said there is no plan for a no—deal because we are going to get a great deal. that is a good point. it wasn't during the referendum campaign let us during the referendum campaign let us get out without a deal. the thing is, myjob is to manage projects and programmes, and you have options. nobody wants a no—deal, whatever no deal is. but
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nobody actually really would like to live with a no—deal. the deal however, the deal has its drawbacks. the deal as it was before theresa may went back, would have seen theresa may went back, would have seen us theresa may went back, would have seen us by stealth still being part of the eu, potentially, but the other 27 countries stating when we can leave. you know that is not what is going to happen. the bottom line is, the eu want is in. we are effectively a cash cow to the eu. just to unpick what it is specifically that you will don't like about the deal, actually, the deal is not about the future relationship, it is about how we leave. i think the deal is good. in some sense, one of the issues is the eu has projected this image of itself as being very competent at
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negotiating a bad deal for britain. it started off the negotiations with the possible that brexit would fail, it would create a deal bad for britain. it has been good at projecting that image. that is the consensus. projecting that image. that is the consensus. explain, that the eu is deliberately... the eu has destroyed parliament's faith in the eu. where we are talking about this deal is only the first stage, i do not think there are many mps who believe the eu will give britain a favourable trade negotiation in the second stage of what the negotiation would be if that makes sense. do you think the mps might have been playing politics? most definitely. the only person who wants this deal is theresa may. but mps have voted it down twice. she is still trying to force it through. do we really want it forced through with mp5 forced into it? either that
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or no deal. it sends such a depressing message to the country. to the world, really. that the premise that is casually mps into voting for something they don't want, because they are so afraid —— cajoling. nick, tell us why you like the deal? it isa nick, tell us why you like the deal? it is a difficult problem, and with the northern ireland backstop, it is staggering the government did not prepare and think this through before calling the referendum in the first place. it is a major problem. i own first place. it is a major problem. iowna first place. it is a major problem. i own a technology company, we develop technology. the northern ireland border issue could be resolved through technology. we should seriously look at that. it has been proposed by the northern island affairs committee. why don't we look at this? using number plate
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recognition. we have that at petrol stations. the dartford crossing. it is not difficult to do this. one of the sad realities of the negotiation with the eu is the eu is not willing to go back to the table ever things it has already agreed oi'i. ever things it has already agreed on. where we have already agreed on an arrangement for the northern irish border, the eu appears not to be willing to go back to it. the problem there is the irish republic, they are saying they are taking the eu negotiation for them, whereas in the good friday agreement, britain and president clinton were all involved and talking to them directly. i want to bring back in emma joining us, you wanted to come in? thank you very much. ijust keep thinking, especially
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talking about meaningful vote, it seems to me it is ok for some to keep putting in for a vote but not to ask the people. in regard to ireland, and with northern ireland, to see what we will all want together and work on that basis, rather than independently from each other. we are in a situation where one side will lose out in an almighty way, currently, it feels like the remainers think they will get what they want and the brexit is will get what they want. isn't therefore the only middle way theresa may's deal. you can't please everybody. the trouble is it is theresa may's deal ora trouble is it is theresa may's deal or a no—deal brexit. the way she is going about it, this is the third time in the house of commons, she is trying to force them to vote.|j think the problem is what they
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should have done from the get go, before they pressed the button on article 50, is have a plan, and they should also have had a cross—party. .. should also have had a cross-party. .. everyone is saying it should happen that way but it didn't. even now, if she had said at the last vote she had asked for cross— party last vote she had asked for cross—party co—operation, in terms of the negotiation. we have had lots of the negotiation. we have had lots of comments coming in. it would have gone through much more easily. and jeremy corbyn doesn't come through it with any —— any better. and he says is is the delay and uncertainty causing damage. the sooner we uncertainty causing damage. the sooner we live, the sooner we can deal with the consequences. peter, time for the government to
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wa ke peter, time for the government to wake up, on past form, the pm will not get it through the commons. they must act in the national interest. we need compromise. an anonymous text, furious with our mps for not carrying out the people's wish to exit the eu and making us a laughing stock. the british people are still simmering with anger over the banking crisis. i voted to remain that respect the majority verdict. jim says, 17.4 million people betrayed, ignored and sold down the river. chris, the pm had a point, the commons is like a kindergarten, mps are not voting for country but for political gain. that is all we have got time for today. we will continue talking. the deadline has been pushed back. we have a bit more time to see how
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things unfold. in a moment. we speak to the parents of an autistic woman who died after being hit by a lorry. they say they feel completely vindicated after a coroner found there had been multiple failures in her care. how easy is it to be environmentally friendly? we look at how our group of students got on in their month—long sustainability challenge, covering everything from fashion and plastics to food and energy. the parents of an autistic woman who died after being hit by a lorry on the a1 have told this programme they feel completely vindicated after a coronerfound there had been multiple failures in her care and described her death as "an avoidable tragedy". colette mcculloch had high—functioning autism, anorexia and anxiety. the 35—year—old was a voluntary patient at a specialist residential service in bedfordshire when she died injuly 2016. but in the time leading up to her death, colette was repeatedly found drunk in nearby towns.
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colette's parents, andy and amanda mcculloch, are here with me now. you heard from the coroner yesterday, we will talk more about that. first of all, tell us more about colette, your daughter? she was the happiest, most energetic little girl. she hardly slept. she would be a wait between 2am and foi, watching the wizard of oz, aged three. she went to school, not many friends. but at a secondary school, the anxiety took over. from 12 onwards, she became severely anorexic. she took her a levels weighing 4.5 stones. she was in and out of eating disorder units until she was the age of 24. in those days, there was no correlation
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between anorexia and autism. now, 2596 between anorexia and autism. now, 25% of autistic girls are found to be on the spectrum but 15 years ago, they weren't. she was intelligent, articulate, she did that painting, that was her a—level project, clearly a talented artist. i know you look at that painting and see clear evidence in it of the emotional turmoil. but a term all that for many was masked because of the external image she presented. when we were aware she was in turmoil, we did not know what it was. she had been obsessive about work. she would get to school literally as it opened at 6am. there would be opening and she was there waiting to get in. but she had no friends. by the time she left, having ta ken her friends. by the time she left, having taken her a—levels, at 4.5 stone, she had done very well, but she had no preparation for life. we had no idea that this was a spinning
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not from anorexia or a cd which is what we thought, but indeed from autism. she wasn't diagnosed in fact until she was 33 years old, after she had taken a university degree at sussex, as a mature student, she we nt sussex, as a mature student, she went there aged 26. she left university. we had thought this was everything she wanted, to study english at university, english literature. she wrote extremely well. she had got there, and she did not make a single friend. by the time she left university, she was terribly isolated. she remained in sussex, in brighton. she couldn't get a job. anxiety took over. she was alone. and then she started going to pubs, asa and then she started going to pubs, as a way of contact. if she had a drink, she could be the person she
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wa nted drink, she could be the person she wanted to be. she would get over her anxiety. of course, a very autistic trait. if someone said to her, you have lovely, green eyes, she thought they were a good person. until they hit her. she did not read people. but outwardly, she seemed to be understanding, but she could not do what she said. and things unravelled for her quickly, the anxiety took over. and then this girl who could sit down and write the most wonderful poem, if someone bumped into her, she thought they hated her. she was fast. she would go to the supermarket, have a panic attack, lose her bag and purse. it did not make sense that this person, we didn't understand it. there was a report in 2014 on her
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knees, and it said she did not have the capacity to keep herself say. it was on her needs. it must‘ve been incredibly difficult for you as pa rents, incredibly difficult for you as parents, knowing you are relying on other people to look her because she ultimately ended up in an environment where you hoped he was being looked after. luckily, at sussex, she had a care coordinator given to her who was wonderful. and she instigated the report, it was a complex case review, and brought in two other psychiatric experts. and they really did take a lot of trouble, and it was an extremely good report. the coroner said in court yesterday that it was one of the most detailed reports they'd ever read. and they identified high functioning autism. inability to retain information. that was the first time we had known that. so we
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we re first time we had known that. so we were completely locked sideways, we had no idea. we realise and they realised that she had to have specialist treatment for her autism and that's where they sort out the placement at milton park. in the coroner's taught yesterday, he said that there were failings in the way that there were failings in the way that she was looked after. he said it was an avoidable tragedy, no direct person was at fault nor any single or combination of organisations, multiple factors were involved and it said it caused him distress. do you feel that your daughter's death was avoidable? absolutely. the clinic did ask the aduu absolutely. the clinic did ask the adult mental health service for times to come and assessor and they refused to assess her. the
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psychiatrist and the worker had a row on the phone and nothing happened. they slammed the phone down. at milton park, they never took on board the complex case review which said that she lacked capacity, and in lacking capacity, she should not have been allowed to go out into the community in the way that she did because she couldn't make decisions. and that was documented, backed up, in fact, in our inquest with the expert. documented, backed up, in fact, in our inquest with the expertlj documented, backed up, in fact, in our inquest with the expert. i have got two statements that i need to read. first from pathway has the specialist worker, a spokesman said, following the death that we conducted an in—depth internal information by looking closely with our local authority holders we have changed our process to prevent something like this happening again. and the sussex partnership nhs foundation trust has said, the
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investigations into the case identified a number of learning points which have been implemented and included, formally reviewing the private places to ensure the services they provide are suitable. we can bring in doctor anna kennedy, founder of an autism charity. colette had high functioning female autism, how easy is it for people not to understand in terms of care what the requirements are and how important is it that somebody who has these specific needs is treated ina certain has these specific needs is treated in a certain way? firstly, as a pa re nt in a certain way? firstly, as a parent of two young men with autism, i cannot imagine what you have been through. both my sons were diagnosed over to through. both my sons were diagnosed overto —— through. both my sons were diagnosed over to —— 20 years ago and i hear lots of stories from this for people who talk to me. i actually said on social media yesterday, does any
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parents have dealt with anorexia, what support was given and not one positive story came out via social media. how easily is high functioning female autism unseen?” believe that now they talk about women asking their autism. the more articulate they are, the harder it is for the support to be put in place. i have spoken to many parents and women themselves, one is one of our ambassadors who went through very similar situations as these parents, she said she could hear when she had been sectioned, the doctors and nurses arguing with each other saying, she too articulate and clever, we don't know what to do with her. we don't know how to treat her. yes, yes. how do you cut through that? it is training, mandatory training. my friend is fighting for the nhs to have mandatory training, that is key.
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they have me talking about it for 20 years. children and adults should not be going through what they are going through. it seems like the more articulate and clever they are, the lack of support they are given. my son, structure works for him. that's what could have worked for your daughter. if they had given her some sort of structure. thank you, and thank you very much for coming last week was the final week of our sustainability series — where we challenged a group of six students to live in a more environmentally—friendly way. at the end, the whole gang joined victoria in the studio to unpick the month's events. but first, how did the six students get on with their final challenge — reducing their energy use? michael cowan reports. it's day one of energy week and our expert dr rosie robison is helping them to get to know their home. have a look at the floors, the ceilings the insulation and so forth. i think this is one of the coldest rooms in the house. so it looks
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like there's no foil behind these radiators and that's something that could be done quite simply to help bounce the heat back into the room basically and make sure that rather than heating up your wall you are heating up your room. the whole of the property has got double glazed windows. brilliant. but although it is double glazed. what happens when you put your hand down here? there's a massive draft going on. absolutely yeah. you can really feel it. i can feel itjust here. so this is a perfect example of something really to get fixed to get some draft proofing in here and that could make quite a big difference to this room. is this a cool room? is this a warm room? my room is pretty cold like most of the time. you only have to walk between mine and his room and there's such a difference between the two. and obviously because you've got rooms in the roof. so houses just like people lose a lot of heat out of the top but also we can notice the blinds on the windows for example quite thin and you may be losing heat out of there as well. travel is now the uk's biggest contributor to emissions. but some modes are
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better than others. has anyone heard of a carbon footprint, does anyone actually know what it is? no. is it like a how much carbon you produce? yeah. exactly. why should we care about our carbon footprint. so where could you get a return flight to for about one tonne of carbon? south france ? more towards greece. so of course with this plane you could just walk there. your average car with just one person in it. just one passenger, one tonne for that passenger, that passengers allowance is actually going to take us the same distance as the plane. a plane in a car emits approximately the same amount of carbon per person per kilometre.
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but because we're travelling further in planes and doing so more often. they have a larger environmental impact. but how far could you get on other forms of transport? the train. i chose hong kong deliberately. how far do you think an electric car might take us? three people in it then it could take you more than around the world. electrification is a key part of how we are going to meet our sustainability challenges. that goes for travel as well as we were talking earlier about heat in the home. what do we think about the bicycle? very low. so you're basicallyjust talking about the emissions it took to make the bike. you can go as far as you want. basically for no carbon emissions. so you're going to cycle to hong kong? rosie challenged the students to get to their destination in the most sustainable way possible.
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that means walking, taking a train and an electric car. so yesterday we were talking about how your house potentially be improved. and today we're gonna meet some inspiring people who are actually doing it in practice. they're off to a housing project, a development of five houses with sustainability built into its core. this is simon. simon's been there since it was set up 20 years ago. he picked them up in his electric car. ok, so this is our housing project. welcome. so this is the roof of our house. hi, guys. you made it. so what do you think of the housing project? insane!
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tell us a little bit about these solar panels. we try to produce as much energy as we consume. we don't always make it but we've got these solar panels which make electricity so photovoltaic panels here just right in front of us. so is this a manmade hill? well yes, it is basically. so our houses are covered in earth. and thatjust helps protect them from the elements. so you know the wind and the rain and helps stop the heat escaping . so the houses go back into the hill. ok guys let's go into the house and see where we actually store store the energy in the house and we'll get out the cold. liz is one of the residents and he's showing liz is one of the residents and is showing them around her home. here they are. hand them over to you. my 10—year—old is very confused. why other houses have radiators?
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because to him his house, itjust keeps the same temperature pretty much through the year. you've got this conservatory here with double glazing and that when it's probably a little bit warmer than this, the heat starts to generate quite quickly. we get the heat into the main body of the house and that's either heats the air temperature straightaway or it starts getting absorbed into the fabric of the building. so this is a new type of living, sustainable living. realistically how long is it until we all live like this? most of these homes were built for the same price as a standard home at the time, it's just up to the government to stand up to the house builders and require it. and we got very close in 2016. and the government backed down and it's leaving the residents of those new homes paying £200 on their bill more than they needed to. i've noticed you've got two taps. what are they for? i've got two taps, a drinking water
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and a non drinking water. do you know how much water you would use to flush the loo, average in the household. it's about a third of your household's water use is just flushed down the loo so there's no point treating that all up to drinking water standard. so we treat the water that we're going to use for drinking up to that standard. but the rest, wejust get it clean enough that we can either use it to flush the loo or we can use it in the shower and for washing. so that's our drinking water. this is the non drinking water. so can you see the difference? yeah. oh yes. but would you be happy to shower in that? oh, yea. we're standing in front of our wind turbines. they were the first in nottinghamshire. they generate between about a third and a half
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of the energy we use on site. we've just provided further power. where does the rest of the power come from? the solar panels you saw earlier they provide another round 40% and the rest will be importing off the grid. i was quite surprised that it's so easy to live sustainably especially when their housing bills are the same as an average household. i liked the architecture of the house and find really interesting how they've managed to retain so much heat. i was surprised by the 80% that they could, of energy that they could use in themselves with just two wind turbines and solar panel. hopefully the future we can get to 100% renewable energy. it's an example for other people to follow. dr rosie robinson is a sustainability expert from anglia ruskin university. she's in cornwall this morning. and we also have all our students with us. everybody?
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good! welcome back everybody. right. so rosie first of all, how did the students get on ? cutting their energy use since november last year. how are they doing? yeah absolutely. energy week was a little bit of an unusual week because it was christmas time the students actually realized that they were going way over the budget on energy so they made some big changes at that point. so one of the key things we would have them do this week was to actually calculate what the impact of the changes that they had made was. and like many people on a tight budget the main thing that they had changed was actually thinking about their heating a lot more, not heating the house at night for example, wearing more clothes and generally and keeping the house a little bit cooler. they worked out that that had made a huge difference to their gas usage so comparing the months after christmas with a few months before christmas they'd actually cut their gas usage by a whopping 48%. they also made a not insignificant change
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to their electricity usage cutting it by around 15% and all of that together added up to around a 44% carbon savings around a tonne of carbon saved in that period. so how do you react to the fact that you cut your leccy by 15% and gas by 48% in that period, a tonne of carbon saved in that period? i think we realized we cut it down but nowhere near that much, a huge change. was it an effort to cut it down? massive, it was desperation. so would you carry on doing that or you're going back to putting the electricity on? it's just finding a balance between not overdoing it too much because we were just weren't communicating when things were going on and when things were going off. so you ended up having the heating on probably a majority of the time but now i think that this month,
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a bit more of a balance in terms of actually keeping warm and when we're out making sure everything's 0k. but you kept warm and you just would keep him warm withjumpers? yeah. it was hot. it was still cold. but you dug deep. ok, let's go back to the first challenge then because that was to do with fashion. we make over 100 billion garments a year consuming five times what we did in the 1980s. each garment we buy in the uk is only worn an average of seven times by women before it's thrown away. so we set gobi and marcus the challenge of putting an outfit together for fashion week without buying anything new. let's have a reminder of how they dealt with that fashion challenge. we wanted to challenge our students to reuse, repair and recycle. they've got to find an outfit for an event without buying anything new. sustainable fashion stylist alice started by rooting through their wardrobes.
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i feel like you could buy this vintage shop. that is a diss! it's very expensive. like i've looked at vintage shops, they smell a little bit. so we want to build an outfit to go to an event. we're going to use the one item from your wardrobe that you have mended and then we're going to give you £30 each to build the rest of the outfit. and you have to buy everything from second hand and reuse clothing. you found something here you really like. i do really like it. i'm definitely going to buy it. amazing. so we've totally converted you to second hand? yeah i'm a convert.
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alice is here. so remind our audience what that was like for you. i had to go in that! his grandmother brought it back from india. despite calling it that, he's very fond of it. and it has like emotional attachment and like normally i'd be like a bit embarrassed about wearing out because of where we were going and what i was doing. a challenge for sustainability. i was pretty confident walking around. i was pretty proud, you know. and what about you? did you feel good for reusing repairing and recycling. yeah. especially the place that we're going is the exhibition and stuff. i was actually shocked about what you can do recycling and reusing the garment and make it into something new which is actually
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really fashionable. and i actually love it and i do like my dress quite a lot. then i go and buy it, i actually love it. so it's good. how did they get on? they got on really well, i was really, really pleased with their efforts. that sounds a little cheeky, considering marcus had never set foot in a second hand shop before. and just what did you say, that you thought they were smelly places with colourful clothes they didn't want to buy. and by the end of the week he was actually finding pieces that he really loved and was really excited by and wanted to buy himself. so that was a really great victory for marcus and also these two shop a lot. and over the course of this month marcus has only bought one item since we did this the fashion segment so i think that's a really great improvement. in the second week of our challenge, we focused on plastics. globally we've created 8.3 billion tonnes of plastic since the 1950s. it can take hundreds of years to biodegrade. so over 80% of all that is still with us polluting the environment and our oceans.
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lucy siegel, our plastics guru, challenged the students to cut their plastic use by 75%. so let's see how that challenge went. starting with an inspection of the house. oh my god. 0k. this is not going to fit. i'm going to have to use my second bed for confiscations. most of that is actually mine. how many products are there in here? sorry about that. you are now going to have to cope with fewer products. this is your soap bar. so that is for shampoo and body. because i'm being really kind to you and i can see that hair is important here is a conditioning bar as well. midway through the challenge lucy turns up unannounced to check their progress. hello! doing a little inspection. i'm not being funny. it looks like you having a plastic festival.
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did someone try and hide that from me? did someone try to hide that behind the sofa? i was thinking that all the bottles would have crept back in but no. the amount of waste is in the bin is probably a little bit less than last week but only a fraction and i think what they've done is they've compacted it. they think if they make it smaller i won't notice. i did notice. lucy is here and amy and jay are here too. how did they do? well, they had 1.3 kilograms of plastic which i thought was rather a lot and they got down to nought point seven kilograms so they didn't quite achieve the three quarters. but i'm still really pleased with them especially after i saw the bottles that they had in their bathroom, i almost gave up. so i'm pretty proud of you guys actually. it's hard when you're on a student budget especially for that purpose getting anything that's not in plastic seemed way more expensive doing that.
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going to the butchers. it was a lot more expensive thanjust buying it in pre—packaged stuff, kind of hard in that respect. and this kind of stuff i mean, does this how much does this stuff cost? this cost like £20. it's reusable coming from beeswax. it's really good but obviously expensive. you really liked the toothpaste, didn't you? decent, as he put it. it showed me that these products, they cannot be altruistic, they've got two offer you something else and you felt that was really effective tooth whitening. everyone is into whitening. everyone is into whitening their teeth. that's such a great win, win on the plastic front and appeals to vanity. i think you
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have got the mindset shift really quickly. i feel what you have got the mindset shift really quickly. ifeel what you have noticed is, i noticed a little sense of outrage about, as he said, everything is wrapped in plastic. and there is a sense of frustration that the supermarkets are wrapping everything in plastic. i want them to get more militant, i know it's more in there, take the plastic off at the supermarket. as you pay for it. a third of all food made for human consumption is wasted every year. in the uk discussed the average family 700 quid per year. we also consume lots of meat. one hamburger has the same environmental impact as driving 20 miles ina environmental impact as driving 20 miles in a car. that's a fact. we challenge the students to cut down their food rate by challenge the students to cut down theirfood rate by 50% challenge the students to cut down their food rate by 50% and challenge the students to cut down theirfood rate by 50% and move challenge the students to cut down their food rate by 50% and move to something called the planetary health diet, a plant —based diet with small amounts of meat and fish. when we checked in, they were getting their hands grubby.
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they are delving through a week's worth of their own food waste. the avoidable food waste this side, the unavoidable this side. it's all wet. ready for this? not really. i will try it. i'll try it. as food week draws to a close, its sustainable diet, is it something they will stick with? initially quite easy as it was simple stuff that i had around the house. as the week went down it was harder to find different things to eat that different from before. i moved on to things like quorn mince, it wasn't that nice. it's quite easy to substitute meat products with non—meat but it's about finding things i enjoy eating. food waste expert here, and helen
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and wil, who were involved in the food challenge. how did they get on? i think food challenge. how did they get on? ithinka food challenge. how did they get on? i think a difficult challenge for them, if i'm honest. the week before, the they generated 3.5 kilograms. they were set a target of reducing weight by 50%, and they went down to 3.1 kilograms. a small reduction but a reduction nonetheless. it highlights... you are miles out. we realised that we had food from before the challenge, that started to go bad as the challenge progressed. we were having to throw that away and it boosted it a little bit. easier to chuck stuff out there and thinking how to use it if it was going a bit brown. some of the things on the table with a plant —based diet ingredients that you are eating. i can't even recognise some
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of that stuff. that's lentils, walnuts, rice. did you get on all right? we cooked a lentil bolognese but no one liked it. it was ok but it didn't have enough flavour. you've got loads of spices. it tasted too bland. what did it taste of? just carrot. carrot pester. it was not a nice texture. due to over cooking! maybe that is not the fault of the lentils but the people kicking the lentils! the fish and the meat on that plate, that's what you're allowed if you follow the rules of this diet each day, correct? yes, i think so. is that enough today? some days you have none of that. what you tend to do on the diet is you don't eat this per day, you will have one chicken breast per week. one steak a month.
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was that difficult? i was lucky because when i started the challenge it was lent, i was meant to abstain from meat in that time so it was quite easy for me, due to my religion i wasn't allowed to eat meat. in terms of the future, how will you proceed when it comes to food waste and changing a diet?” definitely think i will start to use more of the food that i make. if i was using this carrot, i would use the entire thing rather than thinking to use what would suit me and during the rest out. -- chris during the rest out. do you feel like you will change your habits? yes, it's been really interesting. cool yes, it's been really interesting. cool, that is the correct answer! thank you very much to all of our experts. and well done to all of you as well.
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scotla nd the rain will be coming across scotland and northern ireland. eventually it will clear through, sunny spells up here. blustery conditions, strong winds. the rain losing to northern england, north west wales and further south staying rather cloudy. a few breaks and sunny spells. the rain disappears, it will leave a legacy of cloud as the cold front moves to the south. behind it, clear skies, the cold front moves to the south. behind it, clearskies, could be chili, temperatures down to two to 4 degrees. it could be wintry showers over the higher ground of scotland. into the weekend, a brighter day for many of us although across the southern part of england it remained quite cloudy during saturday. mostly dry but a few showers into scotland. feeling chilly and temperature is 30 degrees. —— 13 degrees.
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