tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News March 23, 2019 4:30pm-5:01pm GMT
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this is bbc news, i'm lukwesa burak. (tu (m "h itsn ii‘ul‘ei the headlines at five. chilly start to the day on frost. chilly start to the day on sunday but not a bad start at the hundreds of thousands same time, plenty of sunshine for of people take part in a march and rally in central london — demanding another brexit referendum. england and wales. northern ireland for a time too. showers with us from the word go, blustery winds coming to date we make our voices heard and from a north—westerly direction and they will make it feel quite cool. plenty of showers, more getting out what our voices are at saying across central and southern scotland, northern ireland and a few pushing across northern england and loudly and clearly is this, put it back to the people! north wales by the end of the day. meanwhile, theresa may warns mps in the south more sunshine and a third meaningful vote may not take place next week, if it doesn't get ‘sufficient support'. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines: american—backed kurdish forces declare victory over islamic state, after capturing the group's last hundreds of thousands of people are marching through central london, demanding another brexit referendum. remaining stronghold in syria. speakers addressing the crowds in parliament square include a 17—year—old is stabbed to death in west london. scotland's first minister, the mayor of london says his nicola sturgeon, and labour's deputy leader, death is heartbreaking. tom watson. this deal pleases no one. if you voted remain, it's a rubbish deal. if you voted leave,
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it's a lousy deal. there are no winners, only losers. meanwhile, theresa may warns mps a third meaningful vote may not take place next week if it doesn't get "sufficient support". american—backed kurdish forces declare victory over islamic state after capturing the group's last remaining stronghold in syria. a 17—year—old has been stabbed to death following a fight outside a block of flats in west london. us special counsel robert mueller submits his report into alleged russian collusion with president trump's campaign during the 2016 presidential election. and police in norway are evacuating more than a thousand people from a cruise ship in stormy seas. and now on bbc news, victoria derbyshire takes a look
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back at some of the highlights from her progamme this week. hello and welcome to our programme. in the next half hour, bits of our show from the last week. knife crime is an issue we've talked about time and again, but for a group of mums we brought together this week it's more than something they hear about on the news. each has lost a son to knife crime. moya griffiths is here. her son was 20 when he died from a single stab wound. that happened in high wycombe. peggy kato‘s 17—year—old son cameco champion was stabbed ii 17—year—old son cameco champion was stabbed 11 times in broad daylight outside a primary school in forest gate, london. this woman's son, and
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one, was murdered in leicester. he was eight out of one. tracy hanson's 21—year—old son josh was eight out of one. tracy hanson's 21—year—old sonjosh was stabbed on a night out in london. amy morgan's son, tyler, was stabbed through the heart. he was 16. juliette murray's 18—year—old son nathan was stabbed to death outside a supermarket in london. jessica plummer‘s from finsbury park in london is morning after the murder of her son, who was i7. pauline darcy's son, daniel, was stabbed in a nightclub in coventry in the early hours of mother's day. he was 18, and his sister, sophie, is also here. michelle mcphillips‘s son was 28 when he was stabbed outside the town hall in islington in london. deborah leonard's
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22—year—old son, alexander, was attacked in birmingham. he was stabbed through the heart. kate green stuart's son was murdered in east london. he was 21. elaine donnelly is here. she is the co—founder of operation shutdown, and she'd explain what that is in a few moments. karen johnson's and she'd explain what that is in a few moments. karenjohnson‘s son, ashley, was out with friends in leicester when he was stabbed in the back. it happened last year. also here is lucy martindale. she is an anti—knife campaigner. thank you for coming on the programme. i want to ask you to explain to our audience how losing a son affects you as a mum, michelle. your life finishes. the moment your child's life is taken, your life finishes and you die at that moment with them, and mine was my only child, so they're
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far desperate therefore i don't have other children around me, so that is the devastation and if you have lost a child, your other children suffer, because that is the one on your mind, so they lose as well, but they pulled the umbilical cord from you and take away everything from motherhood to womanhood, and they just take away everything in your life. the only thing that keeps me going is the fact my son's perpetrators haven't been caught yet, so i get up and fight for that. iagree. yet, so i get up and fight for that. i agree. and was my youngest son. he had a good life ahead of him. he was a football coach, just about to get married, and a father of one. my heart has been torn to pieces. my life has never been the same. it never will be. the only thing that keeps me going is his legacy, and fighting so other parents don't go through this pain. who else can
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describe what it does to a mum when you lose your son? for me, it's the fa ct you lose your son? for me, it's the fact that he would have been the person he said, and he said he was going to make me rich. he was supposed to graduate last year, september, and i never got that opportunity —— he never got that opportunity, so the only one that got that opportunity was chantelle. i'm not going to say that i am happy, iam i'm not going to say that i am happy, i am very poorly, and days i feel like life is not worth living, but with the fact that we have other children outside, i make it my duty to go into schools and help other children alongside the parents, because i do not wish anybody to go through my pain, because it'sjust too much. for me, i miss his love. when my son died, i didn't get the
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opportunity to go and pray for him. you are not supposed to go near the body. i wish i had that chance to touch his hand and give my prayer and let him know i was there when he was going. what more could you just wa nt was going. what more could you just want to him. yeah, for him to hear my voice, and i miss that every day and it's hard, with the other kids. since my son died six years ago,... she puts candles every single day, andl she puts candles every single day, and i don't know how to ask her to stop, and my other son is doing
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music since my brother dies, so everything goes different and it's ha rd everything goes different and it's hard because we cannot explain to them. it takes away your future and it breaks my heart. my daughter is getting married in may and it's supposed to be a happy occasion but i feel no happiness supposed to be a happy occasion but ifeel no happiness in anything. it's just taken away daniel's future and all of our futures as a family. she is getting married but he's not going to be there for the i also miss him on every special occasion. that's the sadness for me. this is endemic in society. it affects everybody. the only way to protect out everybody. the only way to protect our children from this is to lock them up in the house and ferry them around, and that isn't practical, and it's got to the point of insanity, because they should be able to play on the streets like i did whenl able to play on the streets like i did when i was young. let's not polarise youth violence. let's call it serious violence. i know people who have been shot and other instances. let's look at the reasons
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behind the incidents. two to three women die a week. society is violent. you can't protect young people have this problem in isolation. we are here because these itiuitis isolation. we are here because these mums have lost their children. this has been building for years. when you listen to these young people, i know some of these young men have been stabbed, had after—care and became a knife carrier, and one described to me that even to take his mother out of the door two yards, the trauma he felt with the ptsd, he felt he had to take his knife with him for the the human instinct of survival is very strong. it is something with us. some people go out with weapons to maim and to kill. each one of these mums will tell you that their case is quite unique. however, there are primary school children of four or five that dempsey class, they don't see race, have got on and we point out that many years, ten years later, one has
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become the perpetrator and murderer at other one is dead. most of the perpetrators, i would suggest, were not prepositioned to do this. so you would intervene at primary school age? early intervention. this is a big mess and it's been building up for years. enough is enough. what point does it have to get to, whose child is to be killed next? we've had people shot in the face. this has been going on for a very long time and we can't come to the government and say, please, £100 million is a drop in the ocean, and what they are doing is putting money back into the budget they have cut due to austerity in the last ten years, and where are the in the street? young people tell us, nowhere. police forces have been deployed from borough to borough with no local relationships, and thatis with no local relationships, and that is why we are doing these protests, a march, central london, we are going to seize a location peacefully, and these mothers and
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every other family member will be heard. just some of the mums who came on the programme to talk about the experience of losing a son to knife crime. we also heard from noel phillips, who went to meet one man in his 20s from the west midlands who has carried noise, —— knives, swords and machetes. he told us going out of the house without his knife was like leaving home without his keys. this is jordan, not his keys. this isjordan, not his real name he is from coventry and he fits the profile of those most likely to be a victim or perpetrator of knife crime. i started at age 15 because i felt scared, but i didn't really wa nt felt scared, but i didn't really want to, but i felt i had to carry it! rarely do we hear from those at the heart of the problem for some young people likejordan who carry machetes, knives and swords. do you still carry a knife? i still carry knives but i don't have one with me
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at the minute. i've got a bigger weapon, because they feel more safe with it, but i don't want to carry it. i'm scared so you are carrying something right now. yeah, because it's bigger than a knife. if somebody brings out a knife, i can bring out this. you understand that, by carrying a weapon like that, you could hurt or kill somebody. yeah. why do you do it? if i didn't do it, i wouldn't feel safe. despite the risks, jordan tells me self protection is why he feels he has to be armed on the streets. figures show more than 700 young people were victims of knife crime in the west midlands in 2018. so far this year in coventry, a dozen or so stabbings have been recorded. his mum is worried and she tells me she's confiscated over 20 knives after searching his bags. we protected her identity to keep her son safe.
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searching his bags. we protected her identity to keep her son safelj found this in his bag. it has the potential to take somebody else's life. i worry every day that he could destroy someone's life. your son is essentially committing a criminal offence and you should report him to the police each time he decides to carry a knife. why haven't you done that? he is defending himself, he is carrying a knife to stop people from using one on him. i am worried about my safety every day. last year three people died after being stabbed in coventry. i don't want to end up dead it can happen to anyone. we wa nt to dead it can happen to anyone. we want to stop him carrying weapons. wright a stab proof vest is now jordan's life line to protect him. in the meantime, the authorities continue to search for solutions to prevent more young people dying. if you have an issue or story you
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think we should talk about, get in touch. can e—mail us. next, domestic abuse can involve many things, from manipulation to sexual violence. this week, we revealed exclusively that the charity refuge says, of 6500 people they support each day, 95% of those cases now involve some form of tech abuse. that can mean an x sewing gps trackers into their children's teddy bears or spying on somebody through a smart tv for the you are not safe. it's like you are a lwa ys you are not safe. it's like you are always going to be watching. a new form of control. it's like being raped, really, what you thought was secure raped, really, what you thought was secure isn't. technology is increasingly becoming an form of domestic abuse. we've heard three women's stories, three ways they
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we re women's stories, three ways they were trapped by tech, controlled and even hunted down. personally, i'd say they don't change. when we were in our relationship, things would kick off at the supermarket, he'd like to humiliate me in front of people. ellen was married for more than 20 years. for every one of them, subject to coercive control, until she reached breaking point. i'd sit on the toilet i'd just go... and ijust i'd sit on the toilet i'd just go... and i just silently i'd sit on the toilet i'd just go... and ijust silently scream and grabbed my fist, to try and get attention, —— a group to get that tension, because it was so horrible. why did you scream silently?” didn't want him or the kids to hear. it was 20 odd years of this horrible
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realisation of, like, what hell i was living. wright ellen left and was living. wright ellen left and was staying in a secure refuge. her husband wright was repentant at first but then he used the family computer to track down ellen. i moved to a new town miles away. i had no connection to that place. there was no way he could have known i was there. i'd phone there was no way he could have known iwas there. i'd phone my there was no way he could have known i was there. i'd phone my friend and agreed to meet her and i'd put in my gmaildiary, agreed to meet her and i'd put in my gmail diary, meet claire at 1pm, and ididn't gmail diary, meet claire at 1pm, and i didn't put a location. i was heading towards there, and i could see my friend's face smiling as she saw me, and then her face dropped. and then he just jumped saw me, and then her face dropped. and then he justjumped out at me, suddenly he was there, in my face, and it scared the life out of me. i wasjust so shocked and it scared the life out of me. i was just so shocked and horrified,. and he said what? found you, got
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you. they managed to get away and her ex—husband is no longer tracking you. i found out he had got into my gmail account and my diary, and that's the only way he could have found out i was meeting that friend at that time. it just made found out i was meeting that friend at that time. itjust made me feel sick to the pit of my stomach. it's like, ami sick to the pit of my stomach. it's like, am i going to be able to break free from this relationship fully, and is he going to try to get into my other accounts? it's like you can't get away from him. you can't get away the tech most used to facilitate abuse or social media and online stalking wright modern life brings new challenges for domestic abuse support workers. every day, the charity refuge supports 6500 woman, and they have identified that 95% of all cases involve temp on
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abuse. so this team gives advice to clients on how to protect their devices and private information from x partners. we are on our way to see a lady with some concerns that she's raised with her worker about being monitored. loads of people are coming to us saying, i am going to the police and these agencies, and they think i'm crazy for the —— they think i'm crazy. if you suspect you are being followed, for instance, perhaps we need to look into the possibility that there is some sort of location tracker. in terms of personal security, it can be good to have a long password, sometimes with words that we wouldn't necessarily think go together. the advice is often eye—opening, and the abuse can get very sinister, with people even using gps trackers to monitor x
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partners. the kids will come back from going to see their parent, and a location tracker might have been sewed into the lining of their coat oi’ sewed into the lining of their coat or into the teddy bear. it's happening, and we can't sort of say it isn't happening and react after the fact. tech abuse often starts while relationships are ongoing.” was all right with the tv we had. 0ne was all right with the tv we had. one of the apps loaded onto the tv was skype. he'd go out and heat skype call, and i'd answer the tv, so skype call, and i'd answer the tv, so it would ring and you answered it with the remote. yeah. 0n so it would ring and you answered it with the remote. yeah. on this occasion, because we had an iphone, i decided not to answer the call, so when he came in, he said, i was skype calling you. didn't you hear the television? i said, no, skype calling you. didn't you hear the television? isaid, no, i skype calling you. didn't you hear the television? i said, no, iwas skype calling you. didn't you hear the television? i said, no, i was in the television? i said, no, i was in the other room. he goes, are you
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sure? he said, you weren't. he said, you were sitting on the sofa. what how did he know? from the settings he's put in there, he could watch and spy and see what i was doing. he could watch me in the kitchen via the ipad. because it was linked to the ipad. because it was linked to the tv. so almost nowhere in your home you could go where you had total privacy. not really. and she was physically abused. her partner of ten years was eventually sent to prison for attacking her. refuge has identified this as a pattern. disturbingly, we are seeing that the victims experiencing tech abuse are at some of the highest risk of being seriously physically harmed or even killed. after 1780 cases, refuge's
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tech abuse team dealt with last year, most also involved physical violence. he said he would cut a smile from one area to the other across my face. he started going around facebook and things, changing passwords. i couldn't have a passwords. i couldn't have a password on my phone or i'd be hiding something, so i had to tell him what it was. one saturday, abbie was at work. her boyfriend was looking at pornography. 0ne image looked familiar from stop he believed it was me and he started sending me messages one after the other. he wouldn't believe me at all. when i got home from work, he fell asleep on the sofa drug, and i put my child to bed. when he woke up, iwas put my child to bed. when he woke up, i was talking to one of my
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friends, and that's when he saw me oi'i friends, and that's when he saw me on my phone, so basically he smashed my phone against the wall, he threw a glass at the wall. my child woke up. and obviously he was hurt as well. abbie's son cut his foot badly on the broken glass. how frightened we re on the broken glass. how frightened were you? i was very frightened at one point, i said, can youjust were you? i was very frightened at one point, i said, can you just hold me?| one point, i said, can you just hold me? i was holding my child, crying, because he was crying as well. these women all successfully escaped their relationships. it's one thing to recognise the signs of tech abuse but another to stop it.” recognise the signs of tech abuse but another to stop it. i only really figured out about this cycle of abuse when i ended up in a refuge, a women's refuge, and then
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came the journey to my new life from there. i would never say to someone they should live like that they should have their freedom. their phoneis should have their freedom. their phone is their personal thing. it's their privacy. nobody should invade that. to this day, my tv has masking tape over the camera. still? yeah. i don't need it. ijust need the tv, not a camera. if you've been affected by any of those issues, and you'd like some advice, you can go to the bbc action line website. finally, she is the 16—year—old swedish schoolgirl whose inspired a global international youth movement to fight climate change. after she skipped school one friday last year to stage a loan protest. now greta thornburg has been nominated as a
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candidate to receive this year's nobel peace prize. when you started your solo protest backin when you started your solo protest back in august, did you ever think it would grow and expand in the way that it has? no, iwould it would grow and expand in the way that it has? no, i would never have imagined that, when i started, i didn't really have any expectations. ijust didn't really have any expectations. i just thought i'd didn't really have any expectations. ijust thought i'd have to see didn't really have any expectations. i just thought i'd have to see what happened, but i would never have imagined it was going to be this big, and it would escalate. and that it would happen so fast. i don't have time to think through what is actually happening.” have time to think through what is actually happening. i want to ask you what you think of the fact that it has escalated in the way that it has. i think that i was lucky enough to pick the right timing and the right method, and i think people we re right method, and i think people were already pretty angry about this, and they are getting more and
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more aware of this, so ijust think that they showed a method you could use to get your voice heard, and then people copied from that. what do you think of the fact that people have been inspired by you?” do you think of the fact that people have been inspired by you? i don't know. i think it's amazing that young people from all around the world a re young people from all around the world are making their voices heard and holding the older generation is accountable and saying, this is enough, we are not going to accept any more. it's incredible. is interesting you say it's about holding older generations accountable. do you think older people lack the imagination to solve this crisis? do you have faith in them? i don't know. if they continue to do as they are doing now, no, but i think they are just very unaware of the situation, because i don't think people are evil, ijust think that they are uninformed, so i think that they are uninformed, so i think that we need to give them
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imagination and tell them why we need to do this, and say, you have to do this in order that children will have a future. i think that young people are more engaged and passionate about these issues and the older people. and why do you think that is? i think it's because we know this will affect our future, and this will happen in our lives. some people see climate change as something abstract in the future, but it's happening now, and we must realise that. that's it for this week. you can contact us with your stories could us an e—mail. you can see more from the programme online, and we are back on monday at 10am on bbc two. thanks for watching.
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hello. not a bad start to the weekend. a lot of dry weather for england and wales with some sunshine, but pretty cloudy in the south. you see that cloud on the satellite picture this speckled cloud continuing to affect the north—west uk. we have seen a number of cloud today, a future for northern ireland and scotland, particularly in the north—west. a few showers in southern and central scotla nd few showers in southern and central scotland as well. not all doom and gloom between those showers. we did have some sunshine, and glorious conditions in the highlands, albeit windy. we've had gusts today of 50 to 60 miles an hour in places in northern scotland, ringing showers, but they have been blown through by the strong winds. 0vernight, it stays pretty windy, with the wind is backing round more to a south—westerly direction. there could be rain for a time in south—west england, but otherwise skies will be clearing through the night, and it will be quite a chilly night. colour is draining from our
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charts as it gets colder. by the morning, one or 2 degrees in towns and cities, and in the countryside it could be cold enough for some frost in cold est it could be cold enough for some frost in coldest spots. 0n it could be cold enough for some frost in coldest spots. on sunday, not a bad start for much of the country, but showers with us from the word go in scotland, and over time they will push further south. through the afternoon, feeling cold in strong winds in scotland, with plenty of showers. more downpours getting in across the central belt, southern scotland, northern ireland and into northern england and north wales, with a high chance of a shower. southern england, less cloud, more sunshine, and highs up to 14. cloud, more sunshine, and highs up to 1a. in the week ahead, high pressure sat pretty close to the uk, which will keep the weather dry and keep the atlantic weather fronts well at bay, staying out to sea for the weather looks pretty dry. 0ne day, not a bad day with sunshine. fewer showers in northern areas, but a cooler wind blowing down the north sea, making it feel a little on the cool side temperatures struggling a
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