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hello, this is bbc simone was 19 when she had a baby to this is bbc news. news with ben bland. i'm ben bland. the headlines. the headlines at 5pm. the prime minister looks the man she was forced to marry you. for ways to bring her eu withdrawal the prime minister looks for ways agreement back to the commons to bring her eu withdrawal agreement the long—term damage of her breast back to the commons for a fourth time. some members of her party say ironing became apparent. for a fourth time. she shouldn't try to force the deal which delivers it through parliament. on the referendum in a way that works for our economy, i would be concerned is the best way forward if she was simply to come but recognising that colleagues do, back and try yet agin some colleagues do, still have concerns about that, to batter her deal through. we need to work through. today is the deadline put it at the end ofjanuary for public sector bodies with more and lost by the largest ever than 250 employees to declare majority the government was defeated in parliamentary history, the pay difference between their the home office says put it back again then again breast ironing is and is now going to apparently try male and female workers again next week. but thousands haven't yet done so. child abuse and it should be this is beyond ridiculous. prosecuted under general assault thousands of palestinian laws and if teachers have concerns, today is the deadline for public protesters take part in protests they have a duty to report a girl on the border between gaza sector bodies with more than 250 and a risk of significant harm. and israel to mark a year employees to declare the pay since weekly demonstrations began. difference between their male but how can a teacher and female workers, but thousands the rolling stones haven't yet done so. postpone their upcoming tour report when breast of the us and canada as mickjagger thousands of palestinian protesters ironing isn't part of sex education take part in protests on the border or even a mandatory part of their training? between gaza and israel to mark is told he needs medical treatment. a year since weekly demonstrations began. i did safeguarding training a year ago and the lady there had a sixth and now on bbc news, former who had put her victoria derbyshire takes a look hand up when they were back at some of the highlights talking about the subject and said
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she had it done, but she didn't know it was abuse, she didn't know from her progamme this week. it was something wrong. at that time, i must have been about 14, 15. i always hide myself. hello and welcome to our programme. in pe, you can't hide yourself, over the next half an hour, the amount of times i we'll bring you some used to try and get out of pe. of the exclusive and original journalism we've broadcast over the last week. we first reported on breast that was when i noticed their breasts are different to mine. ironing back in 2016. if my pe teacher had known back then, they would have it's where hot objects are used noticed something. to press and destroy the breasts of if i'd had help then, girls as young as nine. i would have been able to deal it's a practice that originates in west with it growing up. africa but it's happening here in the uk. our reporter met women in middlesbrough, birmingham and london, all speaking but now that i'm a full for the first time, grown adult and finding who shared their experience out now this is the reason why i'm going through this, because someone decided to mutilate my body. of this practice. the first thing has to be about education of teachers, people it's a community—sensitive, hidden crime. working with young women to make the numbers are far greater sure they realise this is a thing then we anticipate. and it's happening here in the uk and that they should be talking a secretive practice about it and prepared to listen to understand what's going on and to happening to girls as young then advise the young person
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as nine here in britain. you are not supposed to have on what action they need to take. breasts at this age. men will start coming to you to have sex with you. we know it's very harmful so they are willing to iron them. to children, it will i said, "iron them?" impact on their development. difficult to detect but devastating to the lives of the young girls affected. it's mothers, grandmothers that the pe staff might notice something. are the perpetrators. we would want those if she can iron them and i'm flat, staff to feel empowered, to know what to look i will be ugly and nobody for, and also to know the route to make sure willadmire me. the safeguarding procedures i can no longer sit back and say are put in place. i'm fearful of being there is a real sensitivity amongst staff about how we perceive, labelled racist. how we look at children and i think pe, you can't hide yourself there is a fear in staff of them because someone decided to mutilate my body. being prosecuted if they notice we can educate young girls something irregular going on. that this is not normal. it's abuse. so we know about looking out for the signs or indicators... and even with the new legislation coming in, we still culturally have parents who will breast ironing, sometimes known as pounding, flatly refuse their children to take flattening or sweeping, part in any kind of activity, is a hidden form of abuse. as far as they were concerned. unfortunately, it is the children the practice originates in cameroon and other
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countries in west africa. sometimes that are most at risk. it involves ironing i've been fighting here in the uk a girl's chest with and internationally for fgm for over hot objects to delay their breasts 3a years. from growing, so she doesn't attract i don't want to see our african male attention. women and girls wait 3a years. and whilst many authorities are now familiar with we can educate young girls that this the cultural practice of female genital mutilation, or fgm, where is not normal, it is abuse. families cut their daughters‘ and if you've been affected by any genitals, most have never heard of of the issues in that breast ironing. organisations say they have report and would like some advice, do visit the bbc anecdotal evidence of it action line website. happening to dozens of girls every year here in the uk. we've come to middlesbrough also this week on our to meet kanaya, that's programme, we revealed not her real name. that the government is to investigate why children from private flats at a housing complex in south london enjoy a bigger her family are cameroonian playground than those kids who live and she was breast in neighbouring social housing. ironed at ten years old. this is the aerial view of the development, with the bigger playground for the homeowners‘ kids and to be much smaller space for the rest of the children. we heard from one mum whose children are banned
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from the private playground. i have a disabled child and another small one, i said, ok, it's big enough to play with a special bike and he could enjoy with other children. i've been told no, what we need to understand in terms you cannot use it. of breast ironing is it's a why? community sensitive, hidden crime. because it's private. women are not going to speak openly, it's in a private area they're not going to seek help. so we haven't got the... it's not out there on our access. government's agenda. i know this is happening because people have divulged it to so initially you were told me and they've said it's the first time openly that they've ever spoken absolutely no problem, but about what's happened to them actually when you moved in that's and they felt ashamed. when things changed. they felt ashamed that it's once we signed the contract, part of their body that we can't go in it. they should feel proud of. and, anna, what is that like for you? with breast ironing, how do you react to that? it's covert, it's hidden. it's sad, because it's this is done behind not fairthat in the summer you see people playing around, closed doors, in secrecy. or in spring, and kids from it is mothers, grandmothers that are the whole building are like, the perpetrators. why are we different? why can't we go downstairs and play with our friends who are down there? what i hear from women is this and you can see the other kids on the other bit, can't you ? part of a girl becoming a woman. yeah.
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this is a practice carried louise, you live in the private out by women on women. bit of the complex. how do you feel about this? the pressure on some i think it's terrible. mothers to carry on the cultural tradition in the four other mothers and i from the private development the uk can be immense. have been campaigning for the last three years to allow access for the other children. it's not a them and us issue. it's a group of us mothers who are friends, whose children are friends and we wa nt to whose children are friends and we want to be best for our children and the best thing for our children and what makes them happy is to play on their doorstep with their friends. if they would've been able to get them, what would and grow together. it is tragic that they have done to them? a wall has been put in to stop this. what would happen if you went into the private part? who would pick up what do you think that a fuss? the caretaker. is that the would have been like if they were actually able to do that issue? if we are out playing, we to you and to your body? i don't think i would invite them down and we have amazing ever forget, i would be scarred for life. play sessions. but we have to be my best friend, she went through it.
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there and it's like us inviting them she was a really nice person, she was very happy. like they are our guests. that's then she was sad all the time. she always wanted to be by herself, wrong, their children. iwant i didn't know what was like they are our guests. that's wrong, their children. i want our children to go out our flat and all going on. play together with the kids from the it was later that i discovered her mother was doing that other flat without having to ask to her. permission. my children don't want to play in that area because their there is no officialfigures friends aren't there. there is far to estimate how often this is fewer children any by the development. there is at least 20 in happening here in the uk, as we are not collecting any detail. the other development. they all want but the un estimates worldwide there are to be together. my children prefer around 4 million teenage to be together. my children prefer to see it after school clubs so we girls at risk of having their breasts ironed. can all stay together rather than coming home and not be able to play and we've discovered the practice together. what would happen if all isn'tjust about making women less the kids from the social housing attractive to men. went into the private kids housing play area? we got a letter of eight it goes to the heart of a woman's sexuality and how to control it. simone, whose identity complaints of noise. the small area we are protecting, was breast ironed and the big area are next to each at 13 after her mum found out other. it would be the same noise she was gay. with kids in both areas as kids in i didn't know how to tell my mum. one area. the children to play in the two areas so they go to the park at the other side of the road. but if all the kids from social housing
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went in the playground for the privatising kids, what would be the so when she found out, outcome? complaints. from who? don't what was her reaction? name people, but who from? people in the private housing? it's complicated, because if we go and we have to jump the wall or bring someone have to jump the wall or bring someone to go inside, then we would get letters saying you're not allowed. it seems crazy. it's unbelievable when we are designing segregation into what is supposed to bea segregation into what is supposed to be a mixed development. the whole point of a mixed development and we would support this at shelter, social housing should be stigmatised or something that's dramatically different and worse, certainly from the outside, when you look at it, compared to private housing. this is almost beating discrimination into a development in the structural way with no thought to be social housing tenants and the effect on them
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including the children. is that because of demand from private housing, people who want to buy their own home and we don't want to be next to a council house? it might be. ithink be next to a council house? it might be. i think that might be what the developers think. but we need to think about what kind of spaces and communities we want to create with new developments. the theory behind mixed developments is that we don't wa nt mixed developments is that we don't want to create developments that stigmatise particular sections of out stigmatise particular sections of our community. how do you react to james brokenshire telling us that it is outrageous and they are going to investigate? i think it's really positive and we've been campaigning for a long time at shelter against, for a long time at shelter against, for example, private tenancies that exclude anyone on benefits and we know the government isn't happy with that either and i think it's really positive the government is understanding that where we are stigmatising a particular group of society, all we can do is exacerbate the divisions within society. hours
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after that interview, an agreement was reached that allows the children from social housing to use the private playground. and if you've gotan private playground. and if you've got an issue or story you think we should be covering, e—mail us. finally, friday march the 29th was the day we were supposed to have left the eu, something the pay minister has been promising since she took office. it didn't happen. dozens of brexit supporters arrived at parliament to protest on friday, having walked almost 300 miles from sunderland over two weeks. our reporterjoined them for their leg through northamptonshire. our instructions were to park on a country road in the east midlands and wait. then it sure enough the brexiteer years came into sight. they are at around 200 mile mark and
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here in northamptonshire they can smell finish line. as they refuel, relax and make themselves co mforta ble, relax and make themselves comfortable, it's a chance to find out why they're doing it. i'm from sunderland. that's convenient. just had to get dropped off, 15 minutes from my house. my mum has alzheimer's. i had to call in a lot of favours to be able to do this. what brought you to put on your walking boots and work the best part of the country? just anger, frustration. i am a stay—at—home mother, to have my children are off to university now. is your anger directed at something in particular? you got a bit of abuse they are, how often does that happen? not a lot actually, a little bit. in ripon, a lady wound down her window and shouted obscenities. they had
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placards saying we were racists and all the usual. can you see a time when it will be more united. even if brexit is delivered, with may's deal, i think there will be remain is campaigning to rejoin. nigel thrice was one of those to call for people to march, evenjoining them for the first leg. where you are hoping he would be here for all of it? he can't, he is an mep, he is as busy as ever at the moment. purely we st busy as ever at the moment. purely west yorkshire lad. i mean wesley as they call me. i own my own business. what brought you here? democracy. this leave and run in question has been answered. 17.4 million decided to leave with the vote. it looks like they're going to ignore that. what did you make of the march on
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saturday when you saw hundreds of thousands? this isjust typical. we had figures of about 1 million people. we can probably agree on that, that is versus a couple of hundred. this is drumming up support. our day is the 29th. clayton is a brexit supporter who wa nts to clayton is a brexit supporter who wants to leave the eu without a deal. the government, the eu and most businesses don't agree saying it would risk higher charges and border checks. if it was a and mps representing us, they would quite a few mps... but they're not listening to us. what's on the menu tonight? whether spins, of course. to us. what's on the menu tonight? whetherspins, of course. it to us. what's on the menu tonight? whether spins, of course. it might not sound obvious but the chairman of whether spins tim martin is a big fan ofan of whether spins tim martin is a big fan of an ordeal brexit. they've
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been stopping most evenings. after 5.5 hours they are done for the day, that's 200 miles towards london. the mood is upbeat, they're not worried about comparisons with the people's vote march outwardly at least from last weekend. they are confident of drumming up more support. the overall feeling is they feel disconnected with westminster, they are not represented in terms of how brexit is being handled. back in the pub, thoughts turn to home. a lot of my family are getting behind me. we have heated debates from time to time. but in general, i'm not going to divorce anything just yet!“ time. but in general, i'm not going to divorce anything just yet! if the government somehow get a deal voted through and its in name only, as you say, would you be satisfied with that? initially, no. but it's a step
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closer to leaving the european union completely. the next morning, the marchers get their bus to their neck starting point which is 20 miles south. are we ready to leave? we bump into mr weatherspoon himself who tells the crowd the uk is no longer a democracy and not worried about the turnout either. what are you expecting on friday? as the week goes on, we are seeing you expecting on friday? as the week goes on, we are seeing more you expecting on friday? as the week goes on, we are seeing more and you expecting on friday? as the week goes on, we are seeing more and more hideout brexit years shifting. goes on, we are seeing more and more hideout brexit years shiftingm goes on, we are seeing more and more hideout brexit years shifting. it is ha rd hideout brexit years shifting. it is hard to know what's going on in the political world and they are the people who have been shifting. in the real world, nobody has been shifting at all. are you coming name to the idea of a compromisejust shifting at all. are you coming name to the idea of a compromise just to get brexit in some form?|j to the idea of a compromise just to get brexit in some form? i think there have been compromises all the way. as long as we brexit is the main thing. i'm hoping we go out with no deal on friday. i've got a magnum of champagne i'm going to pop
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open on saturday. i willjust keep on campaigning. three years later and still no brexit, what on earth happened? here is a look back at ariza may‘s last three years in three minutes. your majesty the queen has asked me to form a new government and i accepted. we have a plan for brexit. actually we want a red, white and blue brexit, the uk is leaving the eu but we are not turning our back. brexit means brexit. means brexit. means brexit. means brexit. we are going to make a success of it. i'm not going to be calling a snap election. the government should call a general election. not another one! government should call a general election. notanother one! showing the strong and stable leadership in oui’ the strong and stable leadership in our country needs. the strong...
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that strong and stable leadership. we think it's pretty clear there's going to be a hung parliament. we think it's pretty clear there's going to be a hung parliamentm this strong and stable, prime minister? they should stop playing politics with brexit. albot white paper remains the only serious and credible proposition. i've treated the eu with nothing but respect. in the eu with nothing but respect. in the two years since the referendum, we have had a spirited national debate. we will therefore defer the vote scheduled for tomorrow. and not proceeded to divide the house at this time. they will be able to have confidence in my leadership. the parliamentary party does have confidence... i think the british
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people are ready for us to move on. order! order it. the ayes to the right, 202, the nose to the left, 432. it is clear that the house does not support this deal, but denied's vote tells us nothing about what it does support. the eyes to the right 242, the noes 391. i profoundly regret the decision this house has taken tonight. and of this i am absolutely sure. you, the public, have had enough. you are tired of the infighting, you are tired of the political gains and the arcane procedural rows. tired of mps talking about nothing else but brexit. a short extension would give parliament the time to make a final
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choice. go and live there if you like! the british people want this to be settled. they want a good deal that sets us on settled. they want a good deal that sets us on course for a settled. they want a good deal that sets us on course for a brighter future. that deal is within our grasp. and i am determined to deliver it. you can contact us at any time with your story, send us an e—mail. you can see more from our programme. we are back alive, monday morning, bbc
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two, the bbc news channel and online. —— live. hello there. for many it has been another lovely, sunny, many it has been another lovely, sunny, one many it has been another lovely, sunny, one day but there have been exceptions and we have change on the way. behind this line of cloud, we are seeing much colder air, the sunshine in the north but temperatures are significantly lower whilst in the south we have hit the high teens. matt air continues to the night as the colder air... just enough for most in the south to avoid frost but not in the north, much colder as we go into mothering sunday. starting with a widespread frost. it will be a nice sunny day. the showers should ease quite significantly. in the south, there's the chance of some drizzle and mist and hill fog but the cloud were lift. it just means and hill fog but the cloud were lift. itjust means a claudia andy when the airand lift. itjust means a claudia andy when the air and therefore a much colder day. temperatures will be
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