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i'm kasia madera in london — the headlines: donald tusk confirms there will be another delay to brexit until the end of october — we'll be live in brussels with the latest. the british pm will now hear the terms set by the eu — but will it be enough to calm her critics back home? i'm sharanjit leyl in singapore — also on the programme: the world's biggest election is set to begin in india with nearly 900 million people expected to vote. and america's attorney general says us intelligence agencies spied on donald trump's presidential campaign. live from our studios in london, and
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singapore, this is bbc world news. it is newsday. it's 7am in singapore, midnight here in london and one o'clock in the morning in brussels, where it's being reported that european union leaders have agreed to delay brexit until the end of october, with a review injune. this came after theresa may spent an hour in brussels trying to persuade the summit that it's worth granting an extension until the end ofjune, to see if she can get the opposition labour party to support her withdrawal agreement. my colleague christian fraser joins me now from brussels. a little later than expected but we finally have a date. yes. in light of this agreement and the room among the leaders come emmanuel macron not too keen on a longer extension. they
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came toa too keen on a longer extension. they came to a compromise in the compromise is the extension would run to the 31st of october. halloween. and there will be a review in june, probably halloween. and there will be a review injune, probably close to the end ofjune which is what theresa may had requested and writing to the eu leaders, so there's been a bit of a knob to the french side that this extension will be reviewed but they have really gone for the longer extension which is what the german camp want to. we we re is what the german camp want to. we were told when they went around the room and they all spoke of a 17 leaders wanted to take a breather on brexit to get away from this rolling month the month crisis. and kick in some way down the road. it seems in the end that october the 31st was a happy compromise for all of them. theresa may come out of the building sitting on her hands now is now back in the building, holding a bilateral meeting with donald tusk right now, we don't know if she will excepted, we don't know if she will excepted, we presume she will but also there will be laying down the conditions that come with this extension so we have to look at the draft
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conclusions when they are produced and we will bring you here on bbc world news the press conference when we get them from donald tusk and the european commission president. but i am pleased to say we can bring in mairead mcguinness, irish mep and vice—president of the european parliament. a lot of us thought this was go into the night but i think it is good news the leaders were able to come toa news the leaders were able to come to a decision. anyway, it is some way in the middle between those who wish for longer extensions, it also did not to the prime minister, so we had that date in the text, we don't know the conditions yet. it is too early to give that a full assessment, but we did expect the leaders would grant an extension, some have wanted a longer one, now it is to the end of october. the leaders would have been focusing on
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what was best for the european union. clearly, the prime minister has her own concerns she brought those to the table, i dare say there was a lot of focus on what she said about the talks with the labour party. i was listening to some other broadcasters this evening and they didn't sound very hopeful about those talks come into a good conclusion. but one hopes that will change. so anyway, the end ofjune deadline i think should focus the minds and the house of commons because ideally, we would like to see some endgame here and some certainty and i think both the european parliament where i still am at one o'clock in the morning, and i think with the commission and council, we do need to move away from break to talk because it is morning, noon and night commit is a big issue and has to be dealt with but we have other things that are equally serious that needs to be dealt with and i think their leaders will be wanting to give a message that they want to move on in and they want a deal with this difficult issue brexit but we do need to on
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with our business here and i think that would have been a top priority. also taking into account the parliamentary elections in may. it seems to be now the united kingdom will take part in those elections. we will be also nominating a new commission at the end of this year, it will be interesting to see how that timeline works out with the october 31 deadline. i think we will still have to sleep on the decision tonight and maybe wake up in the morning a look at the implications and complications because there will be complications and see how this will eventually work through trying to get a conclusion to brexit, at least to the divorce settlement because that is only the beginning. we then have to talk about the future. yes. we are only at the end of the beginning care. not even there yet. it is not been ratified. there is some sense out of the 31st of october date, the the new commission will come to an end and the new commission president will ta ke the new commission president will take over on the 1st of november,
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what we are looking for at the detail of the conditions that are attached because what the european will not want is see you having a big say in who they european commission president is. i think that a broader level, we would expect that if the uk remains at the table as a full member... they would not obstruct the business would be visiting from. there will be some discussion around between donald tusk and the prime minister. —— as a team from. i think the prime minister will want to act in good faith in some may be asking issue will be the prime minister by the end of october, so that is an area of huge uncertainty for us and i think there have been so many twists and turns and unanticipated outcomes, thus far, since the referendum and i remind myself that was done in 2016 that none of us can quite predict even with these new dates how brexit will turn out. i suppose the focus of the last few days and today has been on the
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dates, but my focus is on the deal and trying to make sure that there is some sense and trying to make sure that there is some sense now and trying to make sure that there is some sense now towards ratification or end it if there are other proposals coming house of commons from the discussions with the labour party and i understand there is talk of another referendum but again, i'm getting mixed signals around that, sol but again, i'm getting mixed signals around that, so i think this story which i hope might move on tonight is going to stay with us and we are still going to be watching this because of the june deadline but we will be looking at the review and then perhaps moving gone into the summer then perhaps moving gone into the summer months into the august two october. so what started as a decision of the united kingdom taken three years ago almost is becoming almost an unending saga and i suppose because it is late hours here in brussels, that doesn't feel very comfortable and it is not comfortable for the united kingdom. i empathize with the uk citizens who are i'm sure frustrated by what is happening here. it is not very good for the european union or the people
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i represent. for all of for the european union or the people i represent. forall of us, i hope that we can resolve this before october the 31st. but at least by october the 31st. but at least by october 31. the president of the european parliament spoke before a theresa may tonight and address the 28th, and he has some fairly strong words because this is messy for the european parliament. if the uk government will take the country towards the european elections, then they cut off injune and it seems theresa may would very much like to be out of europe by the end ofjune. what happens because there will be meps elected but then they would not ta ke meps elected but then they would not take their seats? whatever happens, they could be a scenario and very bizarre because for people to put an effort into a campaign and maybe to be frustrated and not actually sit in the european parliament, will have that, i think the parties are already preparing candidate list and
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i know colleagues there are expecting to run again, but remember the implications for other member states, let's take ireland for example, we had legally here distributed some of the seats the united kingdom colleagues were leaving and it was to gain two extra seats, we have constituencies and new boundaries and i don't know what the implications of this decision will be for elections in my own country. and i'm going back there tomorrow and to start finding leigh finding a campaign myself. i know you look at it from the uk eyes and i look at both sets of eyes. —— funding a campaign. whichever way we look at this commit is a bit of a mess. it is a mess tragically since before the referendum was called. i hope ada tonight we can move on on out hope ada tonight we can move on on our other european issues and that we can see some way where the united kingdom and the house of commons can come to a consensus around
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kingdom and the house of commons can come to a consensus around the sort of brexit or indeed any brexit that they intend to deliver. it is a late one. i will let you go to bed. thank you for staying up with us. with me as patti smith from the irish times. it is just messy. she was making the point arlen was supposed to pick up an mep, did they pick up if the uk are taking part christmas —— ireland was supposed to. there are two seats in arlen. different constituencies. extra seats. allocated if the uk has left. it is going to be quite complicated. there will be contested and those selected will probably sit and those selected will probably sit and waiting until the uk leaves. let's talk about what went on tonight because there was an almighty row that went on between the french and german sides. the germans were going longer the french
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we re germans were going longer the french were digging in and wanted to go short. how is that resolve? it was resolved by concessions to the french. october 31 we have now. i think he also appears to have got, although this is some conditions on behaviour by the british while they members. he said some conditions. he we nt members. he said some conditions. he went to more stringent conditions. expecting for example mrs may to say that the british would forgo their veto on appointment of top jobs on the mfs, and she did it apparently say that. but what the council came up say that. but what the council came up with was a formula whereby they said that the council would meet 5
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27 and much more often. that is an informal thing which would exclude the british. and the budget. this is the british. and the budget. this is the next badge around for the next seven years. in discussion at the moment. they would have to make decisions of 27 and then put them on ice until the british had actually left the union. and then they could get there. so they can legally ratify all of that. that is the idea. in terms of what can happen now, we expect this press conference but right now, the prime minister is locked in a meeting with donald tusk hearing what the terms of the extension are and what they expect from the british side. extension are and what they expect from the british sidelj extension are and what they expect from the british side. i think it is very little doubt she will accept the terms that are on offer because she is not really in a position to negotiate. her main priority as i understand it was to emphasise the
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right of the uk to leave at any point when they got an agreement with the guillotine clause. that would allow them to escape and allow them if they got a deal fast enough tojust skip them if they got a deal fast enough to just skip and them if they got a deal fast enough tojust skip and cancel the european elections but even at a later stage would allow them to leave and septemberor would allow them to leave and september or earlier if possible and she will use that in the comments to say this is not really an indefinite extension. i've got this right. it is now up to you to give me that right to do that. thank you for spending your time. if you are just joining us, news that there has been an extension granted. the eu will not be leaving on friday. the new date is october the 31st. following, not lost on some of you. a review in june. —— on halloween. the front side it wanted some stricter conditions imposed on the united kingdom. we are expecting some press conferences in the course of the
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next two hours and we will bring those live when they appear. kristin fraser were all the latest there and brussels. —— kristin fraser there. it's been called the world's largest democratic exercise, the elections in india begin injust a couple of hours from now. 900 million people are eligible to vote in around one million polling stations. the election itself is held in seven phases, and results will only be announced on may 23rd. with me is james crabtree, associate professor of practise at the lee kuan yew school of public policy, and author of "the billionaire raj: ajourney through india's new gilded age". he spent a lot of time there. a huge election, the world's biggest selection ever. how do you think it will go? the last time around, the prime minister won a thumping victory, this time come up against the opposition a bit more organised from his economic record and was so good but the poll suggests he is probably going to come back as prime
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minister but he has a struggle on his hands this time. taking a look at the big issues, you have the economy, jobs in particular, unemployment rate at its lowest since the early 70s, in the world economy, a lot of issues around corruption. how are the parties dealing with this huge issues? you put yourfinger on the dealing with this huge issues? you put your finger on the three biggest issues. the rule economy has struggled, droughts, farmers are suffering, not enough jobs for the tens of millions of india young people who are entering the workforce. in the opposition has been hammering him on corruption. those are the reasons why he has we can but he is still very popular. people like him. he speaks well on the stump and charismatic. he is a very nationalist. he stands up to pakistan. so there is a sense that despite the fact he has been criticised for not delivering as much as he promised, people still like him and that will be enough for him this week on the wind. we know fa ke him this week on the wind. we know fake news is a huge issue in the
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selection. leaders like modi very good on social media, tell us about the element of the selection. india's online population is now half a billion. a huge change since last time. just like in the american elections, an enormous amount of pressure on the social media campaign on facebook. because those parties as they begin the election today over the next six weeks will unleash a tide of claims about their record and each other and so there is real scrutiny on these global social media platforms to see if they can cope with the fake news that the selection will bring and i think the suspension is they will not be able to. taking a look at some of the other issues, these make economic manifestos as well that the prime minister has made. he is very confident and that they will be the third largest economy by 2030. on the congress side, this income scheme which guarantees a minimum income for india's four. what do you make of all of these promises close with the offer a lot of carrots?
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make of all of these promises close with the offer a lot of carrot57m has been nationalism give away so far. modi in the aftermath of the skirmish between india and pakistan has been talking to his base, he needs to get his core brought out if he is going to win in both parties have been trading spending pledges. the congress offering a minimum income guarantee to all poor people and modi offering a similar thing to farmers. that is how they will fight this campaign and get their base out and try to appeal to voters with carrots as you said. and a lot of other issues like the apollo rotation and pakistan but we have run ata rotation and pakistan but we have run at a time, but thank you for coming in and talking to us. that's depolarization. i want to get some more details on the delay to brexit. maddy teemont—jack is a brexit researcher for the independent think tank, the institute for government. an interesting one we look at the date because we have been so fixated on the different dates, in theory,
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this extension isn't until the 31st of october. the new commission sits on the 1st of november. we are very much still getting the uk back control but still tied to the dates around which the eu work. yes. it really reflects a concern in the eu has about what what a means for the uk electing new meps because we have got quite a strong euro sceptic movement and the uk, if you look at the current crop of uk meps, the biggest party which has the uk independence party, the euro sceptic group. there is a concern about what it means if the uk elects meps to the new parliament and what role they might then have and green the new commission which is part of the reason why we have seen this deadline to try and get around those concerns. also this idea that the uk needs to behave itself if it is still continues to be an eu member. when you look at people like the
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european research group, when they talk about being the trojan horse, it is interesting to see how they behave. and i think there is clearly that concern. we don't quite know what will be agreed, we haven't seen the text yet, and we haven't heard any precisely what the latest of the eu will be asking for from the uk for the exchange of extension, but i think talking about the european research group is key to this because we know they are extremely unhappy with the fact that theresa may was even going to ask for an extension. so the fact of the net leigh now there is a prospect to the sist leigh now there is a prospect to the 31st of october, that will be quite something to see the response and parliament in the uk. i would love to speak for longer but we have to go back to brussels. let's hear it we have anything more coming from, waiting for these press conferences to ta ke waiting for these press conferences to take place, theresa may now speaking to donald tusk. christian fraser is and brussels. back to you.
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thank you. amanda slept with me, from the institute. maddie was just talking about. —— amanda is here with me. you arejust talking about. —— amanda is here with me. you are just saying that there is some idea here that if they cannot manage the parliamentary process in the uk will take part in of those elections they at least wa nt to of those elections they at least want to handle the selection of the next commissioners. correct. that is something to him as with most of decisions, trying to split the difference. this was a way to split the diplomatic difference between the diplomatic difference between the president macron, and a lot of the president macron, and a lot of the other european leaders being sympathetic and wanting something much longer. i think that micron has been focused on the institutional functioning of the european go again as she said. the first barrier was trying to get the uk to hold european parliament elections and the second was the setting of the european commissioners. i think we will have the president selected and the june time frame but then the commission will not sit fully until
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november one and that gets the uk out of the second institutional hurdle. this row between the french and german camps has been interesting. the french were pushing the group to withdraw the uk's quote and they didn't want the uk to have and they didn't want the uk to have a european commissioner. they wanted a european commissioner. they wanted a renew and review clause put into the text. so they could keep a check on the uk behaviour. oliver's frustrated the german camp because they look at the eu world. that's all of which was fresher than the term account. that is right. the germans shared by member others that as uk isa germans shared by member others that as uk is a member of the eu, it has the rights and response abilities that come along with that, as i as it is participating in good faith and sitting in the constitutions, you cannot them. probably at larger differences between the french and germans, mccrone is quite focused on a lot of the reforms he wants to introduce the per european union and is keen to get on. —— emmanuel macron is focus. it is possible that
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angela merkel does not share his enthusiasm for these reforms. having a greater delay in that process is not an entire disadvantage from her perspective. if you look at the spin of the lake, it is six months. there is some reaction here come a long enough to hold an eu referendum. —— span of the delay. from the uk side, there are concerns tonight saying that will do nicely because we can get rid of theresa may and hold a leadership contest and start afresh. we will see if the parliaments are actually able to get its act together and moving that direction. my recollection of the first referendum is that it took parliament about seven to complete other legislation to get everything together and organise. —— seven months to complete. i assume you still have to build in a period of continue negotiations between jeremy corbyn and parliamentary boats so it will be a question to weather or not
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things can happen that quickly in the uk. i suppose the one thing you can say about the example of the night, taking away is the impotence of the uk side, they had theresa may sitting on her hands for five of the uk side, they had theresa may sitting on her hands forfive hours, while the fate of the uk with affecting the limit decided by the 27. and also that within the 27, the first time tonight really sports, following page when it came to brexit, but not on this issue. —— the first time they really had splits. we had some debate over the timing of three weeks ago over the la st timing of three weeks ago over the last summit but it has been and now the last few days about this divide. they did in the coming to some sort of consensus position but i think that does reflect a lot of the frustration that we are seeing within the european union and as we have been talking about this desire on have been talking about this desire on the part of the french to really start moving forward with this broader agenda they want to see.|j suppose the delay will be there as
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they talked about the conditions and i'm really looking out for is what is the terms of this extension. is ita is the terms of this extension. is it a one and only final extension which really does put some pressure on mps back in westminster? that is right. the same thing is what are the conditions for the general view. did we get together six weeks from now did we get together six weeks from now i see where things are going? what does business may have to deliver on by that point for us up from the reports coming out of the room rarely, she did not impress leaders. that's what does mrs may have to deliver on. do they have great expectations of clarity six weeks from now in terms of how she sees this going forward. all she can point to is the process. it is important because it is unusual to have class party negotiations and uk politics but it is only a process. and what happens if we are still no closer to that end soon. i suppose the best case from the eu perspective if you have some sort of deal do parliament by june perspective if you have some sort of deal do parliament byjune and you need to use there remaining time to
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do implementing legislation. that is the eu react if he comes back in june and you still have no deal in the existing process has been put in place has fallen apart because with the terms they are setting we look at the other things, know we are opening of the withdrawal agreement. no in—depth discussion of future relationships. that is on ice. this demand they take part in the european elections even though that is pretty messy. we now have a legislation in place in the uk, the uk is posturing to participate in this elections. we have arlene foster from the dup, catabolic to meet with barnier come interesting in the sense of timing. —— to meet with. suggesting that will not be any changes to the backstop and the only thing we will be looking at is the political declaration which means the real possibility is a softer brexit and a custom singing. so this film leaves open a lot of questions about the future.
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politically, theresa may, not likely to turn down the conditions or the extension. she is i don't think so. we'll stop the alternative is to crash out today from now. she will have to accept the extension with the conditions and explain to people in london why she signed up to this. chris morris has justjoined in london why she signed up to this. chris morris hasjustjoined us. i know you have been getting a feel. what are they saying? a bit of anger with the french for spoiling the party. there was a majority there for a longer extension than this. but it was one word i heard, that force them out into what i think many people see as a unsatisfactory compromise. classic eu summit fights. neither short nor long really. we were just discussing the purpose of the june review. potentially nothing seems to me
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because if the uk is still a member state, all 28 countries would have to take part in a decision to bring something to an end. it is ready down, you just can't kick them out now. down, you just can't kick them out now. we have to look at the wording when he comes out. it is actually an extension to the end ofjune with the prospect of pushing ahead to october the 31st two june review sounds like a bit a fiction. unless june is to ratify the withdrawal agreement. if that process has run its course and still no conclusion, october gives you six months to hold a new referendum in general election. possibly. if you wanted to have a referendum before october, the electoral commission reckons 20 weeks maybe, you would need to be planning in pretty much now, very, very quickly. and we are not at that
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stage in the political process. you could in... we know labour if taking an complementary referenda. we heard some may be a second referent. —— confirmatory referendum. she may not be able to get a deal through without a referenda. just giving them room. the other thing is it a thing if you room to elect elect a new leader. we know that theresa may said in the house of commons a few weeks ago i wouldn't want to be the prime minister that kept us in the eu beyond the 30th ofjune, that she find a way around that? we know there will be pressure. including from within. i'm sure there will be some pressure for that to happen pretty soon after what may now be an easter break in parliament. we know she will be in the comments on rob because she has to report back from the summit. it will be interesting.
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—— be in the commons tomorrow. the summit. it will be interesting. —— be in the commons tomorrowm would looking for some cider and point for the —— they were looking for some end point. correct. now the new question will be with this revised timeframe what does that mean for the timeline. how long they should get these compositions with jeremy corbyn before potentially preventing to indicative out and as chris said, if the votes lead to a potential for a second referenda, do you have the time to complete all of that by the end of october 31, which is quite tight for some of those bigger political domestic developments? talking to vinod end point now. go read article 50. —— talking of no end point fuzzed didn't say anything about the number of times you can extend front the 315t of times you can extend front the 31st of october, may emerge from this day as he knew end point but the 29th of march was an end point, the 29th of march was an end point, the 4th of april, suddenly theoretically possible, difficult may be, that make we were talking
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about whether this is the final final foot. if you are saying legally speaking, article 50 you cannot do that. under the terms of article 50, you can extend as many times as you like. legally. and technically. it comes down to the politics. and what other countries wanted to extend again. if you had got to a phase where a referendum was got to a phase where a referendum was going to take place, but the uk said they cut it into the end of november, they will kick them out at october, i don't think so. it is not a done deal. as we saw on the 29th of march. and we are setting out friday at 23 it will not be done. talking to the evening about the extension and for what purpose the extension and for what purpose the extension is. that is where the divide is really within the room. some still playing to the hope that the uk goes in a different direction with another referenda. if you go along, that that open up that path wasn't somewhat different to want to get over with? —— another referenda. do you think they will resolve that and there is some consensus now
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