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this is bbc news. to you all. the headlines: do not waste this time, more than 70 mps and peers sign said european council president a letter urging the government donald tusk as the eu granted the uk a 6—month extension. to ensure julian assange faces authorities in sweden, but what constitutes time well spent if they request his extradition. in the context of brexit? a ten—year—old boy has died after being attacked by a dog at a holiday park in cornwall. ian, you first. let's look at a the sudanese general who led a coup timeline for the next six months. we to overthrow long—term leader omar al—bashir steps down, just 24 hours after he took could usefully do that for everyone charge of the country. involved in brexit. they have easter doctors celebrate a new treatment — recess. will they use the time to called gene silencing — that's seen major success reflect as the prime minister in treating the crippling pain suggested are well they lay in a caused by porphyria. darkened room garden on easter eggs? a dutch fertility doctor is found to have used his own sperm the latter i think most of us. it to father 49 children, without his patients' consent. has been like, like we have seen in and a seal rescue centre has opened in birmingham to deal with the huge increase in pups needing treatment for injuries fawlty towers, this is the next best thing, this british farce. people in westminster are tired and stressed on both sides. when people are tired
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and stressed, they do not necessarily make smart decisions. so i break is welcome, but when they come back, things will intensify quickly. there will be efforts to get theresa may's deal where the line. it seems unlikely, that that will succeed. the six month limit is actually rather clever by the european union. it is not so far away that the brits or the british political establishment can forget about it for eight, nine, ten months. it is close enough that mines need to be concentrated, either in the next month or so, or in september, october. the crucial thing that is happening is you have the european elections. this is more than britain. there will be a fascinating set of elections across europe, the selection of a new european commission, president of the european commission, a whole new
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power structure and political dispensation in brussels and that, those people will then be negotiating the brits again in september, october. come back to that latter end of the time line in the moment. the talks you are alluding to. it is in the prime minister's diary. how much time will that take up, do you think? one would be —— like one would like to bea would be —— like one would like to be a fly on the well in those meetings. she was asked, one week she was against jeremy corbyn as a threat to national security and then asked what is the greater risk? why would she try and usher in an era of government by what her own mp called a marxist anti—semite led labour party. i do not see those talks
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going anywhere. what she is doing is allowing the whole thing to spin out longer and longer knowing they will not get to an agreement or if they do it will be one that will destroy not only her own party, but the morale of 17.5 million people who voted to live the eu. how much of the next six months do you think that spin will take? i cannot see it going on for more than another week or two because i think this is going to be another technique that is going to feel for her. she will try and push through her deal again and will keep slogging that dead horse. she could potentially keep slogging the dead horse, but it is so damaging to her that i cannot see her carrying that on. analisa, do you think those cross—party talks are going anywhere? you think those cross—party talks are going anywhere ?|i you think those cross—party talks are going anywhere? i think so if common sense prevails. britain has become a farce, it has burned an
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international reputation for intelligence and pride knitters. —— pragmatism. and do what normal governments do, define a compromise between the physician and the government, a compromise is possible. so will they show pragmatism and intelligence? i think they have to. i do not think there is any more time to kick the can down the road, because the time for that has gone. so they need to find a compromise, a compromise is possible. if you look at the situation they could find a deal for which they accept, they would draw a agreement from theresa may with a condition that the labour party has already defined to already put it back to their people. that would be a way to reconcile the country, stop this confrontation which has been damaging for everybody and find a solution that would possibly defy
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the folly of going to the election of the european parliament when the country wants to get out. of the european parliament when the country wants to get outli of the european parliament when the country wants to get out. i am surprised, ian is talking that we could have a new european parliament. we could have a change of the hierarchy of the eu. we could have a new president, new staff. but are we going to have also the same theresa may by the 31st of october, for example? are we going to see changes in this country? are we going to see a change in the parliament itself, a different parliament? on the question of change of leadership, are you arguing the government should change its leader before it involves itself further in the process that analisa described as necessary, those cross— party described as necessary, those cross—party compromise talks? described as necessary, those cross-party compromise talks? yes. i believe theresa may failed to control her government, to control
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her party, to influence the country. failed also to deal with the parliament. she was rejected on her deal, rejected three times by the parliament. now she is talking to the opposition which is very late. if she cannot convince her party, if she cannot convince our parliament, if she cannot convince our government of any sort of ideal, do you think she will convince the opposition? i am absolutely... let me take that out. there are voices in her own party that says she has a bjectly in her own party that says she has abjectly surrendered, it is time for abjectly surrendered, it is time for a new leader. what do you think? i have been arguing for almost two years that theresa may should be replaced. britain is attempting to do something very difficult without a properly functioning prime minister, someone who can persuade, cajole. i have doubts about her deal but i think her deal is the best way
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forward , but i think her deal is the best way forward, out is going to involve her deal as a basis of an exit. but she has failed to persuade her own party. i think she will... i think she will face lots of pressure to go but she seems determined at westminster and whitehall this week, certainly westminster and whitehall this week, certainty that was the gossip, that she is determined to stay. the cabinet in the uk doesn't seem strong enough to force her out. our view is that she wants to stay until the withdrawal agreement is done and just hopes that at some point in the next couple of months everyone in britain is so worn down by it that the deal or a tweaked version of the deal were some changes that live approve of getz britain out. martin we have a local election soon. prediction saying that conservative party will do badly in the selection. i think she is like a cat with a seven lives, to be honest. i
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hope she is running out of these lives! that is the other thing. the sense that brexit might be lost. i voted for it and lit sense that brexit might be lost. i voted for it and [it want to leave the european union. but if the conservative party fails to deliver brexit, the conservative party is broken. if the conservative party is broken. if the conservative party is broken in a largely 2—party system, that means that labour wins and labour is controlled byjeremy corbyn. so people are quite... across the spectrum, people are quite chastened by that. i wonder if that full season, that might ask people to reconsider their position and for diehards to vote for the deal. oncoming back to our timeline, jonathan, we have the local elections and then we have the european elections, me 23rd. on friday we saw the brexit party
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launched with nigel for hours —— right nigel faraj. is that kind of revolution in prospect at these elections? who knows. we have got to the point to map out timelines. this party which is effectively what it is, it is depressing. yes it is a sign that politics is broken. this isa sign that politics is broken. this is a phrase we hear politicians saying when the do not know what to do. but politics is broken does not stop it or fix it. the re—emergence of nigel farage. someone i am not a final. but the most successful, has managed to turn on its head, this idea of the uk being subservient to europe, he has brought about the referendum. he managed in large part
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for people to vote to leave the eu and now he is revealing again because he feels the party he used to represent as racist, bigoted and disorganised. we have to see how much of that was his leadership, whether he encouraged it are tolerated. i do not think his party will be the saviour of politics in this country. it will be interesting to see what happens. anjacob rees—moog. this certainly seems to be making their circa something of a 3—ring circus. i do not know what is going to happen, nobody knows. at the end of the day, that is the feeling of all of our politicians. they have led us to a circumstance where nobody at all, anyone knows what's happening when it is happening. and that makes planning 1's life, whether it is taxation, what you own, selling your house, where to live, what nationality
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today identify with, makes it impossible. that makes it difficult for leavers and remainers. consider —— right contingency planning, the prime minister has said she does not wa nt to prime minister has said she does not want to hold the european elections on may the 23rd. that means as we stand in mid april, people have got to plan contingency on an election that the prime minister does not want. we have a prolonged no deal, it is preceded by six months, but it is still there business is saying. the elections cost a lot of money and to bring the first to that point with a country that wants to go out. to spend a lot of money in a country whose growth has come to an halt. there are serious problems, to hold this would be ridiculous. ithink thatis this would be ridiculous. ithink that is also another pressure on the political classes of britain, to
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show intelligence and pragmatism. a cross—party agreement must be found before that becomes a reality because then that would simply complicate things further. analisa, thank you. we are going to leave brexit there. we are going to leave it for next week as well. if mps can have a recess and so can we on dateline. barring major developments on the brexit story we will take a break next week from it. right now we are going to move on to israel and the middle east. in congratulating israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu last week, donald trump said his election victory promised good action on peace between israel and palestinians. does it? some of israel's staunch friends in us politics warn that mr netanyahu's campaign pledge to annex parts of the west bank will lead to greater conflict. jonathan, i am going to go to you first. some of our viewers may not
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have followed the israeli election closely, they may not have followed the result closely. can you give us a thumbnail of where it lives as? the prime minister benjamin netanyahu the prime minister benjamin neta nyahu is the prime minister benjamin netanyahu is now is entering another term of office when there was an extremely strong effort to get rid of him. that was an effort led by a little group of well respected army leaders and politicians who grip together with the sole purpose of getting rid of him. going back to the trump peace deal proposal which nobody has seen perhaps firm benjamin netanyahu. we know that in benjamin netanyahu. we know that in benjamin netanyahu, why did they vote for this man who is up against corruption charges during the term of office he is going to enter. the country is sick of in many ways, it is impossible to enter your 30th year of office —— 13th year of
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office. why did they vote for him ain? office. why did they vote for him again? they see in him a man who has stood up to the us president in obama and after obama's term of office he has one that because president ron has listened to him. —— trump. he spoke to him when he went to congress. he has stood up to us presidents who do not seem good for israel and he has shown that he isa for israel and he has shown that he is a great friend of the current president. should there be a prospect for peace in the trunk deal, he will be able to work with the president to bring that about. —— trump. maybe it's crazy —— might maybe israelis feel they have kept them safe. reduce the number of rocket attacks on the whole, kept them alive, made relations with arab
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states and knows how to deal with us presidents good and bad for the country. maybe he is the man again. the collapse of the late — right left and liberal labour. that is partly because the left has lost its way in israel. they did not in this campaign represent their best policies. they had their vote stolen by the blue—and—white party, the new party that did not exist last year. which is a coalition of famous figures to get rid of benjamin netanyahu. figures to get rid of benjamin neta nyahu. they figures to get rid of benjamin netanyahu. they did manage to decimate the left and steal away votes from the labour party. now down to a handful of seats, utterly disastrous for them. shifting uneasily in a couple of the things thatjonathan uneasily in a couple of the things that jonathan was saying, uneasily in a couple of the things thatjonathan was saying, where does this election result leave palestinians and response from the arab world wide are? first when
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donald trump, the leader of the biggest power on earth is working for you as your campaign director, when actually you are supported by the extremist right—wing population, i think it is rainy —— my easy to win this election. i believe benjamin netanyahu is more dangerous to israelis than palestinians. he is going to destroy the image of israel as the only democracy in the middle east to an ultra—right state. as the only democracy in the middle east to an ultra-right state. what do you mean? when he endorsed and he said he will implement the nation state which consider israel as a state which consider israel as a state of the dues —— mike jews only.
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it doesn't absolutely say that other minorities... it is documented. he said israel is a state of the jews. sorry, it is nonsense. as the economist lying? he never said that. shall wejust accept economist lying? he never said that. shall we just accept that there are non—jewish citizens of the state of israel? there are 2096 of the population of israel. he has voted in... without the occupied west bank, all the gaza strip, 20% of its citizens are palestinian arabs, christians and muslims. he has not
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said they are not citizens. christians and muslims. he has not said they are not citizenslj christians and muslims. he has not said they are not citizens. i can prove it to you now. i will show you what he said exactly. second thing, he is going to annex the west bank. this is something that we... can recheck that we can agree, we cannot agree on that on the assertion that those citizens of the state of israel who are notjews... those citizens of the state of israel who are notjews. .. jonathan is not agreeing that he says. he is not agreeing. but it is documented. what we can agree on is that benjamin netanyahu what we can agree on is that benjamin neta nyahu has what we can agree on is that benjamin netanyahu has pledged to annex. . . benjamin netanyahu has pledged to annex... parts of the west bank. what he said during the election campaign and! what he said during the election campaign and i urge most people to look at what politicians say two days before an election, he said that he would like to imposejewish law in thejewish settlements. which
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have always, in every peace plan, ben assumed to remain under israeli rule, whether or not they have been returned for land swaps. he would not justify the forced removal of those towns are people. that is controversial because it upsets people who want to see a like fur—lined land people who want to see a like fur—lined [and swap, certain borders that they want. we are talking about effectively 2% of the west bank area where jews live. effectively 2% of the west bank area wherejews live. he may be compromised that, he may be given that by trump, we do not know. for rather a long time, that by trump, we do not know. for rather a longtime, the palestinian authority has refused to discuss with the white house what they would like. they have said no. the palestinians are possibly the only national independence party that have said no to their own state.
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jonathan, if you can stop there. i wa nt to jonathan, if you can stop there. i want to hear that what the palestinian responses and what the arab world responses to the of the election of benjamin netanyahu. first, this nation state law, it is written and it is they are and it is documented. we are not going to argue that. second thing, benjamin netanyahu is going to annex the west bank. what it means four major areas of the west bank which is... it means that the death of the two state system. there would not be any state system. there would not be any state for the palestinian. it is recognised this solution. benjamin netanyahu is recognised this solution. benjamin neta nyahu is saying recognised this solution. benjamin netanyahu is saying i don't want theirs. what are the palestinians going to do about it? what are parts of the arab world going to do about
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it? the palestinians, they do not have nuclear warheads like benjamin netanyahu have nuclear warheads like benjamin neta nyahu and have nuclear warheads like benjamin netanyahu and israel. they do not have the fourth biggest army on earth. they do not have the support of the international community, the united states, the biggest super power on earth. what you expect the palestinians to do? they should be held by the international community, by the europeans, by the americans, to say to the israelis, enough is enough. you are killing a two state solution that is recognised by everybody on earth. you are recognising an apartheid state in israel. what is being done by the arab region at the moment? oh man is two million and the arabs, 400 million. we cannot see that he is
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winning the arabs onto his side. there is a huge change in the arab world. there is revolution, popular revolution in algeria, popular revolution in algeria, popular revolution in algeria, popular revolution in sudan and other places. the middle east is changing. benjamin netanyahu is re—establishing re encouraging radicalisation in the arab world. this is the danger. we don't usually agree on these questions but i think that the election result, which has actually had very little attention outside the region, really because it wasn't a story that the western media was hoping for or expecting which was that benjamin netanyahu having his career ended. but i think his victory is a tragedy and a possible catastrophe because the
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attempt to unseat him was a manifestation of another israel, the others real which can through its military and civil society can see that the benjamin netanyahu how you —— die—hard approach is leading israel to a very dangerous place. i think there is a case for saying that the trump plan, can then broker deals elsewhere in the region. but i think people will be disappointed. it is ideal hatched together by the american ambassador to israel and donald trump's son—in—law. it will create a backlash which will have serious consequences indeed. can i bring analisa in. it would be helpful for our viewers to have a look at the political situation which is a worry and are concerned. we are talking about a prime
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minister who is going to be... indicted in the next few months. we have heard that the international community must do something. a few words on what the eu, which has traditionally played a traditional role in the middle east. what can europe do, is there a role for europe? the european union for 25 years has supported the peace accord which would create a two state solution. it suffered a setback when trump recognised jerusalem as the capital. that was a controversial solution. at the moment the european union is in a fragile situation, also because of brexit. what we are witnessing is the biggest offender of the two state solution in israel, palestine is very weak and very
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determined but unable to do anything. therefore everybody, we will have to leave it. this is something we will come back to in the next months and weeks. that's it for dateline london for this week — we're back next week at the same time. goodbye. hello there. we've got more of the same really through the rest of this weekend. it's going to remain on the cold side and we have got stronger winds as well, east to south—easterly winds are picking up which make it feel colder. most places will be dry, there will be some sunshine around but there will be some more frosty nights and early mornings as well as we had early this morning. a look outside from earlier on,
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this is the picture in county antrim and it is this part of northern ireland that will probably see the best of the sunshine across the country. here we are in woking in surrey with some blue skies and probably staying dry here today, though there are some showers coming in across east anglia into the south east of england today, one or two could be heavy, perhaps with some sleet and hail. but away from here it is going to be dry, some lengthy spells of sunshine, some fair weather cloud. sunshine is a bit hazy in northern ireland, west wales and the south—west of england and here we have got some stronger winds as well and it willjust make it feel colder. not so bad if you are in the sunshine but in the shade, those sort of temperatures are pretty chilly for this time of the year, 8, 9,10 celsius, that sort of number. as we head through this evening, those temperatures will drop away fairly quickly underneath the clearing skies, any showers retreating to those north sea coasts. but we do have a weather front approaching northern ireland, so a lot more cloud here, so too across west wales and maybe a little rain in the far south—west of england, so much milder here. but away from here towards central
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and eastern areas, it will be cold and frosty once again. so, a cold start to the second half of the weekend. still a little rain perhaps over towards cornwall, the isles of scilly and more cloud and still a stronger wind. elsewhere, after a sunny start, we will see cloud amounts increasing, probably more cloud than we're seeing today and as a result, it is going to feel quite cold once again and those temperatures are struggling up to 9 or 10 celsius, so below par for this time of the year. as we head into the beginning of next week, well, we've still got the area of high pressure toward scandinavia, drawing in colder air, keeping these weather fronts at bay, but strengthening the wind so a cold and rather blustery start to the new week. we still have high pressure as we move further into the week up towards easter, but the position of the high will change, we'll draw in some slightly warmer air from the south—east and temperatures are going to rise, which is good news for the easter holidays and as we head up to easter, it is going to be warming up. that is it from me. goodbye.
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