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welcome to bbc news, is bbc news. i'm ben broadcasting to viewers bland. the headlines: in north america and around the globe. representatives of protesters in my name is lewis vaughanjones. sudan have met leaders in khartoum. our top stories: hopes that tensions in sudan appear to be easing, the meeting came in response to a with the new military call for dialogue made by the third leadership meeting protesters. lead in as many days. a spokesman for the protesters told the bbc they insisted on the formation of a translation: this is a renewed call civilian government. the maltese navy has transferred more than 60 for all those bearing arms to sit migrants from a german charity vessel to a multisport after a down for discussions to arrive at a number of other eu countries offered peaceful outcome and peacefully to ta ke number of other eu countries offered to take them on. the sub—saharan coexist under the basis of new measures. migrants were rescued by the charity four eu countries agree to take in dozens of migrants rescued after being stranded at sea cia after the coast of libya ten for nearly two weeks. india marks a hundred years since troops in the british indian days ago —— sea—eye. india has army carried out a massacre at amritsar. and, revolution in the ring — iran's first ever female boxer celebrated the massacre —— remembered. soldiers commended by general reginald dyer killed hundreds of men, women, and children protesting in amritsar. 18—year—old
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boy has died after being attacked by aata boy has died after being attacked by a at a holiday park in cornwall. —year—old woman has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter and having a dog dangerously out of control. heidi davey reports. emergency services were called to the popular holiday park in south east cornwalljust before 5am this morning. several residents here at tencreek described how they heard screams in the early hours. it's believed the ten—year—old boy's grandmother found him, but he was in an unresponsive state. devon and cornwall police confirm the boy was pronounced dead at the scene, after being attacked by a dog, that was of a bulldog—type breed. a 28—year—old woman was arrested just several hours later on suspicion of manslaughter and having a dog dangerously out of control. people in general don't come far at this time of year. they will be from parts of devon and from all around cornwall. this community is renowned for when things happen, that we pull together and we try and help in any way we can.
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the holiday park, though, is very much open for business. new visitors and existing customers have all been arriving. everybody we have spoken to has just reiterated what a strong community it is. lots of static caravans in there, lots of people that have been here for years. they all just say how shocked they are that something like that can happen here. obviously it's terrible news. as we were driving down it was a bit of a shock, and it does sort of worry you. in a statement, the holiday park has said, "our thoughts are very much with the family involved. they have our deepest sympathies. tencreek management continues to help police with their inquiries." and those officers remain on site this evening, offering support to residents and holiday—makers. heidi davey, bbc news, in looe. now on bbc news, they call her akk.
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she could take charge of the nation when mrs merkel step—down. in this special she talks to our europe editor, katya adler. i've come to berlin to meet a female german politician who's had a meteoric rise to international recognition over just the last couple of years. annegret kramp—karrenbauer, otherwise known as akk, is the leader of germany's centre—right cdu party, and she is widely tipped to become the next chancellor of germany — the eu's biggest and most powerful country. now, if she pulls it off she will have very big boots to fill. angela merkel has dominated german politics for pretty much two decades now. so what can we expect from merkel‘s heir? translation: i was born in saarland in 1962. it's a small region in germany. it's a classic industrial region. there was a big mining pit close to my parents' house,
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which was then closed in the 1960s. my grandfather was a miner. my brother and my husband are miners. saarland has a special history, a european history. it was often contested between germany and france, in the region's nationality often changed. saarland is a very catholic federal state, the most catholic in germany, and this characterised myfamily upbringing. i come from a big family. i grew up with five siblings in a multi—generational household, and i had a distinctively happy childhood. i did in fact have a very close relationship with my father. he was a teacher, and i was very inquisitive from a young age. i really enjoyed reading. my father always encouraged me
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in this regard, and also had a huge interest in politics, which is why we spoke a lot about politics at home. my mother influenced me too — the way she managed our home, but also the fact that she always told me that she wanted to learn a trade but that at the time that they started a family this was impossible. akk became involved in local politics as a teenager, gradually rising through the ranks to become president of the saarland region in 2011. last year, angela merkel asked her to put regional politics to one side and to move to berlin, where she backed kramp—karrenbauer to become secretary general of the cdu. 0nly eight months later, with the party struggling in opinion polls, angela merkel decided to step down as party chief, triggering a leadership contest that was won by akk. and the reason angela merkel was in trouble was because of the political fallout from the migration crisis of 2015. chancellor merkel and out over 1 million refugees to come to germany,
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hugely boosting the fortunes of the far right afd party. translation: i believe that on the one hand one must accept the afd as a normal political opponent. one must confront them on the actual issues. and one must give back a voice to those persons who feel disillusioned by the established parties, by offering sensible and responsible political answers. what we cannot do is to engage with the language and position of the right—wing populists. because effectively, they say, we don't want anyone to come to germany, we don't want anyone fleeing from a conflict, being persecuted in another part of the world, we don't want any muslims to find a home here in germany. that is not the position of the cdu,
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and that is why we say these people have a right to be here. we want to take them in. but when problems occur, we will take care of them. you did have a case here in germany that has really scarred the public memory. on new year's eve, 2015, to that year where so many people came, there were all sorts of sexual assaults, mainly around the cologne area, on women, and it was later linked essentially, not completely, essentially to migrants, mainly of north african origin. at the time, politicians stayed quiet about that fact. the main press stayed quiet and the police stayed quiet, and that has been very, very damaging in that trust issue between people and politicians when it comes to migration. translation: that is absolutely correct. this incident on new year's eve in cologne changed a lot in the political and public climate in germany.
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during that night, a lot of trust in the work of the police was lost. but also, through the communication afterwards, trust was lost in the willingness and ability of politicians to take seriously the needs and worries of the victims. to call them out openly and to solve them. we have learned from this incident on new year's eve in cologne, and also from other incidents. we communicate more openly about these incidents. 0n the other hand, it is apparent that from the right—wing populists there are efforts to paint an exaggerated picture where all migrants that have come here, even those that have been here for a long time, are made responsible for those crimes. you said very clearly that you don't think the politicians of the centre
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should steal the slogans of the far rightjust to get more voter support, basically. but you have chosen some very different words to angela merkel, now, when it comes to migration. you have talked about the closing of borders, you have talked about 2015 as an exceptional situation. that intimates that you would do things differently now. translation: it was an exceptional situation because we realised too late how many people were actually coming. it was an exceptional situation because the cooperation between european states was not working. and when we ask today, considering what we've learned of the last few years, how would you in such a situation, nobody would say that we would act in the same way. we would look at the numbers more carefully. we would start speaking to the neighbouring states much earlier. we now have angela merkel‘s negotiations with other european states, where the closing of borders as possible, when it is communicated and discussed
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with the neighbouring states. so in this regard we would now have a different situation and could react differently. so, as we are discussing, you are being very careful to say as angela merkel did and that you agree with her. what you don't agree with is when the media nicknames you "mini—merkel", because you are staying at the centre of your party, a party that's traditionally very conservative, because you are a woman. but you say you are not mini—merkel, so how are you different? translation: first of all, i was very annoyed by the fact that an adult woman, 56 years of age, with three grown children and a career gets called mini. nobody would call a man in my situation mini. that was the first point that annoyed me. and the second point, i have a different biography than angela merkel.
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i come from a different situation, concerning the cdu, from a west german cdu, a different tradition. and all of these things give me a different character, my own profile and my own way of dealing with issues, even if i share many views with angela merkel. this makes me a different person, a different politician and not simply a replica of angela merkel. one area where akk certainly isn't a mini—merkel is the extent to which she throws herself into germany's annual carnival celebrations. whole swathes of the country take to the streets in fancy dress and annegret takes on the character of gretel, a grumpy cleaner. this year she made a carnivaljoke about tra nsgender toilets, for which she faced a barrage of criticism. if the cdu party wants to attract younger and more
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metropolitan voters, is akk striking the wrong tone when it comes to social issues like gay marriage, transgender rights and abortion? translation: the situation in the cdu is such that when it comes to these situations we have a broad spectrum of opinions, ranging from the very conservative to very liberal positions. within the cdu we have had these discussions and the decisions have been made. gay marriage is recognised. the law was passed in the bundestag, and the logical consequence is the possibility to adopt. in this vein, the same goes for me as cdu party leader, that this is the basis from which we make political decisions. my position is primarily a personal position of mine. i don't think that it is shared by the majority of the population. i'm not even sure it is shared by a majority within my own party. but this also has to do with personal credibility. i believe it is important to stand by one's convictions, even when one realises that they may
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not be shared by a majority. you talked about your personal religious convictions there. let us go to your european convictions. at the moment we are looking at brexit, the moment we are looking at brexit, the eu losing one of its biggest, richest, most influential members. there are criticisms levelled at angela merkel that she has entered this debate far too late, because she was preoccupied with domestic politics. should you have got involved earlier? translation: a very much regret the decision that was expressed through the referendum in the uk. to this day, i wish that the uk would correct its decision and stay in the eu. but it is also a fact that this decision was made by the people. it
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must be implemented now international sovereignty. it is not oui’ international sovereignty. it is not our responsibility, especially as european politicians, to influence this decision in one or the other direction. the uk living, doesn't leave germany quite naked inside the european union? uk has quite useful. many are supposed to be the motor of the eu alongside france, but disagrees with france over things like protectionism, or germany is more competitive mode when it comes to the single market and has been quite happy to, you could say, hide behind the uk. does the uk leaving mean there will be more tension with france? translation: i think there will be even more expectation on germany after brexit. it is true that germany and the uk were closer when it came, for example, to competition
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rules than germany and france. 0n the other hand, the franco german axis has never been free of tension. the eu comes from us forging a common position from a different standpoints. the main challenger brexit internally for the eu is that the number of bigger member states reduces further, which means the responsibility on germany becomes even bigger. akk wants to become germany's next prime minister, but angela merkel is not going anywhere in a hurry. so her first not going anywhere in a hurry. so herfirst big text not going anywhere in a hurry. so her first big text at the ballot box comes next month with elections to be european parliament. there is a lot at stake here for her. she has promised to turn her party's fortu nes promised to turn her party's fortunes around. her political credibility is riding on it. the passionate but pragmatic vision for europe contrasts starkly with the
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appealfor a europe contrasts starkly with the appeal for a european renaissance launched by french president emmanuel macron. translation: my vision for europe is a europe which is strong, which cooperates in the four columns, which can influence the rules of our global world order. which can enforce its values. because i believe that our values i worth fighting for. but i want to clear up this misunderstanding. we had a very interesting survey in germany where people were asked if they want more europe, and they said yes. and then they were asked what more europe means to them. and more europe, for many people here in germany, doesn't mean the creation of new european institutions, the tra nsfer of of new european institutions, the transfer of responsibility to brussels. but many people understand the better cooperation of the individual states in europe. and i think we need to be united in our goal to tackle climate change together. to encourage innovation together. to encourage innovation together. to encourage innovation together. to pursue a common security policy. and i believe that
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in order to do this, we need a good cooperation between nationstates as well as common institutions. that might distinguish my method from that of france, or from might distinguish my method from that of france, orfrom emmanuel macron. but we agree on the goals. and i say if we reach the best goal at the end of the debate to find a common path, then my vision of europe is fulfilled. for then, we have a europe which does not seclude itself, but a europe which says, made in europe is more than good industrial product. made in europe is human rights, individualfreedom, equality, democracy and a constitutional state. and that is what we want to enforce everywhere in the world. there are those who say that the existence of the european union is in danger now. you have got brexit, and although countries are not lining up to leave behind the uk, there is a strong
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force of nationalist, populist, euroskeptic parties here in germany, with the afd, we see it in italy, in denmark, pretty much across the european union. those parties are predicted to do very well in those european parliamentary elections now, at the end of may. does that make you worry about the future in europe? translation: it worries me because we are in a situation where we can observe that influence of different countries in the world are shifting. china is growing stronger, not only economically but also politically. the politics of the united states is changing. and if europe wants to play a future role in this global world order, it must stay united and strong. especially on those issues which are important. so for example, to complete the
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schengen area through a functioning border protection, a common security and defence policy, but also completing the single market, especially in those areas where we like innovation. and to clearly state this in this campaign is very important. the german economy is heading downwards, something germany is not used to. we know that having more women in the workforce tends to be good for the economy. you have pointed out that germany is pretty backwards in those terms. if you look at differences in salaries between men and women, germany performs far worse than the european average. quite poor representation in the tops of companies, in the german parliament. if you were german parliament. if you were german chancellor, what would you do to change that? shouldn't it be changed already, it is quite a surprise for a leading company like germany. it is a fact that we have too few women in leading positions and businesses. the only body where
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we currently have a 50—50 lineup is the german government. we are leading by a good example, but we are counting on businesses own responsibility. it is clear to us that if businesses do not recognise the importance of the advancement of women in their own interest, then we might have to face the possibility of changing laws again. if you were to become chancellor, looking forward into germany, isn't it about changing a lot of common attitudes in germany? we have talked about, towards migration, we have talked about women. what about when it comes to balancing the books in germany? there is quite an obsession herewith actually not investing that much in your own country in order to show that, as you say in german, you are in the black, not in the red. this is an obsession that goes back to the 1930s. isn't it time to move on and to say, let us invest in our own country, because it is notjust
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good for germany, it is good for the rest of the eu, because those countries in the south say that german obsession with its own economy and keeping the money in the bank is harming the union as a whole. yes, that is a pop argument, that are very conservative budget policy and no new debt leads to chill -- policy and no new debt leads to chill —— leads to fewer investment. but the truth is we have invested a lot in recent years, we have made available a lot of money, the economy has grown, and it shows that responsible budget policy and investing into the future are not mutually exclusive. i am from a federal state which has a very difficult budget position, and there is nothing that hampers growth and investment more than death. it is —— more than debt. it is not a question ofa more than debt. it is not a question of a lack of money. the main problem at the moment is that the system is
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too complicated. we have budgets in our ministries were budget has not been used because the process of getting permission grants, the planning, has not been done swiftly enough. that is our main problem, not financing. with your vision for germany that you have shared with us today, and your vision for the european union, is it enough to persuade german voters, do you think? if we look at recent polls, angela merkel is still outperforming you in popularity terms. your popularity has actually gone down since you were voted head of the cdu party at the end of 2018. 0bviously it is difficult because you are not actually in a position of power moment in government. can you pull it off? first of all, we, as the cdu, have always said that according to our tradition, government leadership and party leadership a lwa ys leadership and party leadership always go hand—in—hand. because there are advantages to this. angela merkel decided, in an exceptional
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situation, to separate these two positions. this put us in a new positions. this put us in a new position as cdu. we clearly said that we stand by this decision, and we stand by angela merkel to remain chancellor until 2021. you wouldn't be tempted to try to get in there? no, because we carry our responsibility here. this is not just a question for germany, but a question about the stability of europe as a whole after the european parliamentary elections. for this reason, we wanted a vision of labour, which we have at the moment. 0n the one side, having a chancellor at the top of government, to govern well, but also to prepare the cdu as the governing party for the next election. to drive it forward, programmatically. to ensure a broad and renewed spectrum of people within the party. to improve the party organisationally. that is my job, that is a job in which one
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enters into many political discussions, where one's political profile is sharpened. you face opponents at the cost of one's popularity. this is perfectly normal and that is precisely why the party members elected me. in order to take on thisjob for the members elected me. in order to take on this job for the party. i members elected me. in order to take on thisjob for the party. i have members elected me. in order to take on this job for the party. i have a good division of labour with angela merkel, which i would like to continue. angela merkel has been there as german chancellor now for a long time. she doesn't like rivals, we all know that, even though she asked you to come here to berlin, you are seen as asked you to come here to berlin, you are seen as the chancellor in waiting. isn't that a bit uncomfortable, when you are with her, or in relations between the two of you? we both have a very relaxed relationship. i think we both actually deal with it very co mforta bly. actually deal with it very comfortably. it is more the journalist to wonder about how we work together than us. it is a new situation for the cdu, which is why one has to get used to it first. it
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requires a great deal of co—ordination and cooperation, which has worked well so far. but it needs to be worked on every single day. and of course, we need to consider the way in which the situation in germany might change over the next few months. what will be the result of the european elections? what might potentially change with regards to our financial situation? what could change when it comes to theissue what could change when it comes to the issue of competitiveness? so it may well be that we will be faced with different questions than the ones we are working on at the moment. annagedkampt kramp—karrenbauer, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. hello, after a chilly start to the weekend,
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if anything during sunday it will feel a bit colder. of course it always helps if you get to see some sunshine, and most of us did at some stage on saturday. but for sunday there is expected to be more cloud building up and the east—south—easterly wind will be a bit stronger too. all that comes after a frosty start, and a good few degrees below freezing where we've had clear skies overnight, and away from any breezy conditions along north sea coasts and this weather front in north—western parts. this is a different flavour to the weather on sunday. more cloud around and some of us seeing a bit of rain. it is a frosty start for some, particularly where you are in the blue. we can see the effect of the cloud on the west, keeping temperatures up a little and breezes coming along north sea coasts. lots of early sunshine to come, but the cloud is expected to build. in terms of catching a shower, early showers should fade and we may catch some in north—east england, a few more towards eastern scotland, wintry on the high hills. remember that weather front? here is the cloud and patchy rain from that. the isles of scilly, parts of cornwall and pembrokeshire, the further west you are, in northern ireland. the breeze is stronger. average speeds across western parts, you could get some gusts in excess of a0 miles an hour. more cloud, more wind,
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that will make you feel colder. really, these temperatures are already struggling for the time of year. now, as we go on through sunday night and into monday morning this weather system to the west really doesn't want to move. the closest you are to it, the more cloud there is around, still the chance of seeing outbreaks of rain, maybe still the odd shower clipping parts of eastern scotland, but most places stay dry. away from the west, not as much blue, not so much in the way of frost. still a chilly start for many of us on monday morning. early sunny spells, again, some cloud expected to build. most places will stay dry. still getting some outbreaks of rain into parts of south—west england, wales and northern ireland. a few showers running into eastern scotland. still decidedly breezy on monday. temperatures may be a degree also higher. it is beyond monday when we are expecting more significant changes in our weather. still patchy rain in western parts on tuesday. low pressure to the west and high pressure to the east. the position of the weather system is changing slightly. we start to draw in warmer
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air from the south. this is all about the feel of the weather. but also, to some degree, the look as well. once we get rid of any patchy rain across western parts as the week goes on, increasing warmth and sunshine 00:28:30,045 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 in time for easter.
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