of religion on our world. including how faith can be manipulated for a message of hate. and then we got a demonstration. one synchronised moment of horror in sri lanka which left hundreds of lives destroyed, thousands shattered, a muslim community in fear of backlash and a tourism—dependent economy reeling. the power of hate? that is where we are, the power of hate. we now know that these guys, there is some kind of link with is and there appears to be some links with the more extremist missionaries if you like of hate. and it is a world which we will have to used to living in and finding different ways perhaps. i think this premature declaration of the end of the

caliphate was stupid, these things do not end in quite that way. i'm supervising a major research programme at the moment called the inner lives of troubled young muslims and among them are quite a lot of educated young muslims and i make no excuses for these murderers who not only kill the soul of their country who not only kill the soul of their cou ntry after who not only kill the soul of their country after a terrible history in ten yea rs country after a terrible history in ten years of peace, it is unforgivable. and of course we believe some of the bombers were wealthy, privileged, elite young men. and they hate muslims more than almost anyone else, ordinary muslims who are not filled with the hate that they are. what you have to say thenis that they are. what you have to say then is they are doing this, while jihadis on the hard right eye doing their own thing new zealand happened, global sympathy was raised towards muslims, these guys come in and shatter that. so towards muslims, these guys come in and shatter that. 50 say the motive

is and shatter that. so say the motive is to destroy sympathy for muslims? they will destroy any peace between the different religions. in itself it is so destructive because they destroy their own lives and obviously they think they can beat marchers. there is a count of death behind that which is inexplicable in this day and age when you talk about hope and aspiration and so forth. there is an element in global society which is determined to kill off a ny society which is determined to kill off any kind of consensus that we might build up or any peace moves and just the problem with this is it is asymmetrical. they do not need feet on the ground, do not need soldiers with weapons, they have explosives tied to their backs and you cannot get hold of them especially with sri lanka where you have domestic problems with the prime minister and the president.

and they're not even on speaking terms. and so many of these people can slip through the network. sol have no answer, iagree can slip through the network. sol have no answer, i agree with yasmin. thomasjust hit on something have no answer, i agree with yasmin. thomas just hit on something about the politics in sri lanka because there is the abstract sense of is as there is the abstract sense of is as the carpet. and anyone can stand up and say i declare the caliphate. but there is a practical world in which they operate. the thing about islamic state is anyone can pledge allegiance, it is not quite so simple for al-qaeda. and where these things tend to happen is in places where governance is pretty much out the window, like syria where islamic state began for the family went into iraq which itself was just coming out of the civil war that had been

brewed up by the invasion in 2003 they took over one major city, and he was the other thing that is from down—to—earth, in addition to muslims, i agree with you, they hate them but they find the religious minorities and in the case of muscle it was christians and your cds and with sri lanka it is christians. it comes to the fundamental cowardice. there is a fundamental cowardice, we blow ourselves up, we're not afraid of death. but you walk into a church with 300 people, you are a coward. mark, what is it that societies can do to build resilience, thomas mentioned the failure of the president and prime minister in sri la nka president and prime minister in sri lanka to talk to each other and intelligence was not shared. there was no law to allow the prosecution of individuals who are joint foreign terror organisations. in terms of

security we are already at the maximum, we do not want democratic society to be a fortress and to have preventative arrests. we have to hold off these things because we are democrats and we reject violence. i think what we need more than anything is the moderates coming together from all religions and trying to foster a cord for western europe, that is the big hope to have a moderate muslim diaspora. it is important to come together and realise that in all societies in europe, where the caliphate was not dead as yasmin said, they have been bombs and assassinations all over in paris and all that. sol bombs and assassinations all over in paris and all that. so i think we have to come together and try to foster this idea especially with

young muslims that the solution is democracy. and we cannot take the blame away from western powers, libya is a total mess, yemen, more jihadis have been now influenced by yemen as they once were by bosnia and interestingly it is an america that they're doing some good work, one part of america working with one of the violent terrorists to find out what is in their head. how do they identify them question what they identify them question what they were about to go off and join islamic state and they got them and more people that are potentially saleable, they're more people that are potentially saleable, they‘ re doing more people that are potentially saleable, they're doing interesting work and we need to know, i think at the end it is belonging. they do not belong in their families, the end it is belonging. they do not belong in theirfamilies, they the end it is belonging. they do not belong in their families, they feel totally over controlled and at their dead till they do not belong in the countries where they are. we need to know what is going on in the heads. they do not work now which is great.

and also we need to create opportunities for young muslims because it is blocked for them right now in western europe. and women succeed better than men but the problem is young muslim men. and these guys hate that. coming together is all very well but when society cannot agree on a cohesive policy, these countries like libya oryemen, ithink policy, these countries like libya or yemen, i think the problem policy, these countries like libya oryemen, ithink the problem is policy, these countries like libya or yemen, i think the problem is now in the uk which is split down the middle now and the situations create opportunities for people to come in and exploit the very disunity of society. and populism is growing all over europe. i am a professor and i have some of the students this thinking could easily lead them and organise these discussions in spaces to talk to them and sometimes i come

away absolutely exhausted and frightened at the things that they believe. and there we have to leave it. a fascinating topic and no doubt we will come back to that. right now we will come back to that. right now we have to talk about president trump. it's official. president trump is coming on a state visit to the uk in earlyjune. cue protocol rows, a carriage ride with the queen and a 20 foot inflatable with tangerine coloured skin, a shock of gold hair, and a nappy. protestors say the trump baby blimp will fly again along with other "creative interventions". thomas, last year when you think back to the previous visit, it was not an enormous success, if you planned it for this year, what would you worry about? security is the best thing and then theresa may is now such a kind of weak person as a host to invite him. compared to donald trump she is rather weakened. the image in the mind, people think

this is a kind of disjointed meeting and so the government will have a ha rd and so the government will have a hard time first of all to explain to a very damaging public in this country why it is necessary to have relations with america beyond donald trump. we have seen the president of china come to this country, the president of romania, a thug and a terrorist himself in office and they we re terrorist himself in office and they were received so we have to be able to separate the office from the man. america is too important to be left to people like donald trump to determine. yet jeremy corbyn, john bercow, vince cable, all saying they're not going to the state bank of— they're not going to the state bank of — state banquet. they're not going to the state bank of - state banquet. america is too important be to identified with donald trump and there will be in america beyond this month we need to continue to invest in a fruitful relationship. at the same time

preserve the right to not allow themselves to be invited to that dinner. that is fair enough but professionally speaking this is an important visit and we have to make sure we do not allow donald trump to disrupt the relationship in his time of office. michael, as an american what you think will be the issue on which, if there is a difficulty, where is it going to be? last time we had comments from the president on brexit, a comment attacking the mayor of london about the handling of terror attacks, what is it going to be this time? i do not think you can't predict in advance, he typeset out ina can't predict in advance, he typeset out in a tweet when it comes into his head and then everyone is cleaning up behind the 500 tonne elephant he just says what comes to mind. the thing with him and in predicting what could happen is you

know, i think he wants to write in a coach, to be honest. ithink know, i think he wants to write in a coach, to be honest. i think it is that right in the coach that appeals to him. and his view of himself in the world. and as for protesting chemical can tell. first festival la st chemical can tell. first festival last time we did not know what his schedule was going to be until the la st schedule was going to be until the last minute. he never came to central london, he went straight to chequers and i would imagine they would have to organise a tight schedule of events and it will be short because essentially he is by on his way to normandy for the 75th anniversary celebrations of d—day. sol anniversary celebrations of d—day. so i would say you cannot say and huawei, you know something, on trade, europe and britain, they are going to take a different view on

how to deal with china so i do not think it will come up. but huawei insofar it is a national security issue,in insofar it is a national security issue, in the uk we talk about a special relationship, the us has said, the secretary of state and president have said that huawei is a threat as they see it to national security and there will be questions about cooperation with intelligence allies. if it has not been on fox news, he will not know about it. mike pompeo and his entire national security team will not bring it up with him because he will not get it, it is almost too sophisticated if they talk about it on fox news, there was this terrible security breach in the british cabinet, someone breach in the british cabinet, someone leaked sensitive discussions about whether five g should include huawei, then he will think about it thatis huawei, then he will think about it that is literally the way things are going. like thomas i think almost

like the foreign secretary with queen victoria, there are only interests and not friends. there is nothing tangible to discuss because the big thing with trade, there no way the uk can sign a bilateral agreement with us so it will be pomp and circumstance which the do very well. they have had dreadful people coming as thomas i said, dictators and autocrats and so it will be purely pomp and circumstance with donald trump. i think the leader of the opposition and others who will miss the banquet, it is a lot of fun and it is good food! your point about the gold carriage, michael, is that just because he about the gold carriage, michael, is thatjust because he likes the idea of that or is it a kind of election

asset as he goes into these elections as the us president so distracted by major events at home that he really will not have time to cause trouble in the uk? you refer to opportunity. i think it has election value but i think mostly it is about his own self of self self aggrandizement. what you see is what you get with him. he is someone who just wants to be the focus of all attention in whatever situation he is in. and getting a pumpkin turned into a golden carriage with her majesty is something that works for him. mentioning them in our investigation and the upcoming elections, where are we on that because we did not talk about the

aftermath last week. the mineral report put the ball in the democrat court. here are ten incidents where you can explore whether this was really obstruction ofjustice, not toa really obstruction ofjustice, not to a legal standard perhaps to a legislative standard under the constitution for the democrats control the house of representatives, their leader at the speaker of the house nancy pelosi is disinclined at the moment to pursue impeachment for the partially because the time from now is short. we are going to have primary is beginning in january, we are going to have primary is beginning injanuary, this is now the end of april and you have 20 people now who have declared to be considered candidates for the presidency, to challenge donald trump. the whole situation is crazy. there's a lot of legislating to be done, and that is what they should be concentrating on but instead they are out raising money, some of it with small donations, much of it

from the traditional ways and you have 20 people of whom only one has a chance of winning and so the democrats i fear are going to drop the ball unless they sit down and really think what is their priority. do we continue to try to legislatively hold donald trump to account, maintain the balance, the checks and balances in the constitution or just checks and balances in the constitution orjust go into an egotistical free for all and try to get the nomination, the leadership of the party. it must be nice for him to get away and get into a golden carriage because he is being pursued for the one thing i do admire about america is they have used every legal official avenue to expose what this man is like. what i cannot understand is why theresa may decides to invite him at a time when we are ripped apart, we do not know what is going to be happening in june, we do not know if she will still be there. the societies in a

mess and i can see why he wants to come but why are we getting here now? why could we not get in later? the invitation was extended to him at the end of 2016. we didn't know then what kind of mess uk would be in. but we should state not now, it isa in. but we should state not now, it is a terrible time. but it is now going back to us domestic politics, joe biden obviously the former vice president, he has thrown his hat into the ring. thomas, you have been posted in washington, when you see joe biden derided by president trump as sleepyjoe who makes him feel like a young, vibrant man again, what do you make of that? well it will be a slanging match of doubt between these old men each way. i think it is courageous ofjoe biden to think he could be lucky on the third time. i think you will be very unlucky i think america does not wa nt unlucky i think america does not want someone of his ilk who has been

prove n want someone of his ilk who has been proven not to be quite presidential timber twice before. to give it to him when he is close to 80 years of age. ronald reagan was 70 when he became president and that was considered old but he managed beautifully. i do not thinkjoe biden has the same kind of fibre in him to turn around public opinion about himself and appear to be the victor of tomorrow. we are going to leave us presidential politics for this week because we can obviously come back to it, and we have elections in this country, local elections in this country, local elections next week and european elections next week and european elections in four weeks' time. barring a brexit agreement for the mark, you have been in brussels and you have been watching here as well. what you think the chances are of may and jeremy corbyn getting a brexit deal over the line to avoid having european elections?” brexit deal over the line to avoid having european elections? i think it is zero. i spent a week in

brussels and they say to you, it will be postponed and postponed again three, four and five times and then brexit will die, that is the dream in brussels. simply by default because there nothing else and in fa ct because there nothing else and in fact in europe they have a word for the situation of the uk, the never exiting country that is how the uk is called in brussels. because the europeans are turning the page, they will have a new commission and parliament, they will have a new head of european bank and they have big issues which they want to settle, china, artificial intelligence, defence, populism, migration and all that. suffer then brexit has become no longer a priority. it has become a nuisance

and will continue like this. so not paying attention? not paying attention and anyway i cannot see anything going on in the uk that will change that does anyone disagree and think there is an above zero chance of the labour party and the government getting a deal over the government getting a deal over the line? european election, if you have people like coco the clown and nigel parish, what will that do to the parliament if they stand? my guess is not much. it is interesting, if someone behaves like a clown and we see that on the news, ido a clown and we see that on the news, i do not think it makes much difference. but he launched a brexit party two weeks ago and it is doing well in the polls. we will see what happens in respect of that. but let's assume that brexit is still an ongoing process while donald trump

is here and that is where he will stick his oar in, he will say i think brexit is a great idea. i personally will give you, because it is in my gift, i will give you a deal. he promises a deal, that will be in the price for that but he cannot do that. but there is parallels between the opposition to brexit and the opposition to donald trump in america because you have these european elections coming up. there is a substantial part of the country that would like to vote for a pro—european person and you have maybe five parties standing in constituencies and that felt will be split and people like farage will end up getting the seats. and that is insane. just click the european parliament, the british will have no role in the new parliament because the europeans are organising that the europeans are organising that the british are left out. exactly,

because the public at large in the uk has little interest in what happens. the local elections in may are for more important in the uk than the european elections which are fast to begin with because we do not know if anyone we vote for will ta ke not know if anyone we vote for will take their place because by some miracle theresa may could get her deal through and then the whole election as far as uk is concerned is totally null and void. so a lot of uncertainty but assuming the elections go ahead they willjust have happened as donald trump is arriving at the end of may. how severely punished will the brexit mess and uncertainty, but the government be and the opposition?” think this isjust government be and the opposition?” think this is just not, government be and the opposition?” think this isjust not, i do not agree with thomas and i think the european vote is now becoming another brexit vote and u nfortu nately another brexit vote and unfortunately there are main site is useless and the brexit site is already putting up populism. so it

will be, or maybe we do need donald trump to come and make us forget! to the mess that we are in. even that sounds a bit more entertaining than where we are! and we should ignore him, he is thin skinned, we should not protest. but the prime minister cannot ignore him, when you say the rest of us hate him, you speak for yourself, not the whole population of the uk. theresa may has to be pa rt of the uk. theresa may has to be part of this visit on the receiving side, she obviously is somewhat wea ker side, she obviously is somewhat weaker now than a year ago when he came lastjuly. just how much difficulties she in if she gets punished at the opinion polls, the tory leadership uncertainty, indiscipline in the cabinet, she is vulnerable to difficulties arising from the trump visit. she cannot get

thrown up before december so she can go on and on being more feeble and more feeble unless there is enough ofa more feeble unless there is enough of a move to get rid of her i cannot see her resigning. so that will be another crisis. she has had so many but she is growing more feeble. and life will go on with the eu going their own way and the uk thinking more and more. trample held her hand, the last time she was holding his hand and this time she will need him to hold her hand. the mechanism to get rid of her will never be triggered because no one has any clear idea of who could replace her. so the prime minister we would agree has enjoyed a lot since the last trump visit and she will endure again. i was thinking on the way into the studio, in 1996 and 1997

labour was about 20 points clear for the identity of the toys and they said it is ok, we will lose the next election, we need a spell in opposition. jeremy corbyn is not that far ahead, they think that they can win again and i do not, ijust think we're going to be into this set of dynamics for us some time. forever! and there we leave it. thank you very much. that's it for dateline london for this week — we're back next week at the same time. goodbye. a sunny afternoon on the

cards for some of you. but for others storm hannah continues to cause a few issues. some travel disruption still possible through this afternoon. and some minor damage to trees and buildings can't be ruled out. don't forget the trees are now getting into leaf and with severe gales expected in places, that could break the odd branch down. winds actually peaked through the night, 82 miles an hour in aberdaron in north—west wales. but once the wind strength has peaked, it could still be a very windy afternoon for many. low pressure systems pushing out into the north sea. southern and western areas of that will continue to see the strongest of the winds. lighter winds to north—eastern parts of england for the time being, that will change later on and certainly across scotland much lighter winds. some slow moving and maybe heavy and thundery showers here. the odd shower but with more sunshine across southern counties of england and wales. it is north wales, north west midlands, north west england and to the east of northern ireland, persistent rain here could cause some minorflooding. and it's these areas, not only will it be quite cool, with temperatures around 7—9 degrees, but it's also where we still see

the strongest of the winds, 40—50 miles an hour quite easily. and as i said the winds later will pick up across some eastern counties of england. further outbreaks of rain across england and wales and south—west scotland as we go into the night. much of that will gradually start to ease, clearer skies developing here and there. and a colder night than last night, northern ireland for instance there could be some frost around into the start of a bright start to sunday morning. there is this ridge of high pressure building to the back edge of storm hannah, which becomes even less of a feature as it pulls away through tomorrow. still some cloudy skies above london for the london marathon runners but the good news is nowhere near as hot as last year with temperatures peaking at around 11! degrees. but a bit of a breeze and the outside chance of a shower so if you're off to spectate, make sure you take something waterproof just in case. so a few showers across eastern parts of england, a fair amount of cloud here, a bright start in the west but clouding over in northern ireland, pembrokeshire, devon and cornwall later as well as the channel islands. some outbreaks of rain or drizzle possible. most of you though, sunday a dry

day, a much brighter day and a warmer day with temperatures into the mid—teens, maybe 16 celsius in the highlands of scotland. and the winds certainly lighter than today although a cold breeze will continue down across eastern coasts of england. as we go into next week a dry start for many but things change through the week as more showers develop and it will be turning cooler again. goodbye for now.

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