it is 2:30 a:m.. this is bbc news, the headlines: a woman has been killed and three people injured in california after a man opened fire at a synagogue north of san diego. police said a 19—year—old local man had been arrested. president trump offered his sympathies to those affected and said the shooting appeared to be a hate crime. sunday church services in sri lanka have been cancelled, amid fears of more attacks, one week after the easter sunday bombings. the country's president has used new emergency laws to outlaw two islamist groups suspected of carrying out the attacks. the un says some villages hit by cyclone kenneth in northern mozambique have been entirely wiped out. a senior official described the level of destruction as "heartbreaking" and said many people would need assistance in the coming days. thousands are living

in makeshift shelters. now on bbc news, dateline london. hello and welcome to dateline london. i'm carrie gracie. this week... the caliphate is over but the carnage continues. after losing its last strongholds in syria and iraq, will islamic state go global again? and last time president trump visited london, he criticised the prime minister, kept the queen waiting and was stalked by protestors and a giant inflatable. this time it's a state visit.

will the pomp and ceremony keep things on track or will the uk's drawn out political crisis leave even more things to go wrong? and i only promised you one brexit free programme. that was last week. be warned. my guests today are thomas kielinger, author and long—time correspondent of die welt, political commentator, yasmin alibhai brown, marc roche of le point, michael goldfarb of the podcast frdh, which stands for first rough draft of history. last week we marked easter by discussing the impact of religion on our world. including how faith can be manipulated for a message of hate. and then we got a demonstration. one synchronised moment of horror in sri lanka which left hundreds of lives destroyed, thousands shattered, a muslim community in fear of backlash and a tourism—dependent economy reeling. the power of hate? that is where we are, the power of hate.

we now know that these guys, there is some kind of link with is and there appears to be some links with the more extremist missionaries, if you like, of hate. and it is a world which we will have to get used to living in and finding different ways perhaps. i think this premature declaration of the end of the caliphate was stupid, these things do not end in quite that way. i'm supervising a major research programme at the moment called the inner lives of troubled young muslims and among them are quite a lot of educated young muslims and i make no excuses for these murderers who not only kill the soul of their country after a terrible history in ten years of peace, it is unforgivable. and of course we believe some of the bombers were wealthy,

privileged, elite young men. and they hate muslims more than almost anyone else, ordinary muslims who are not filled with the hate that they are. what you have to say is they are doing this, whilejihadis on the hard right are doing their own thing and new zealand happened, global sympathy was raised towards muslims, these guys come in and shatter that. so you say the motive is to destroy sympathy for muslims? to destroy any peace between the different religions. do you agree with that? in itself it is so destructive because they destroy their own lives and obviously they think they can beat martyrs. there is a cult of death behind that which is inexplicable in this day and age when you talk about hope and aspiration and so forth. there is an element in global

society which is determined to kill off any kind of consensus that we might build up or any peace moves and the problem with this is it is asymmetrical. they do not need feet on the ground, do not need soldiers with weapons, they have explosives tied to their backs and you cannot get hold of them especially in sri lanka where you have domestic problems with the prime minister and the president. and they're not even on speaking terms. and so many of these people can slip through the network. so i have no answer, i agree with yasmin. thomasjust hit on something about the politics in sri lanka because there is the abstract sense of is as the carpet. of is as the caliphate. and anyone can stand up and say i declare the caliphate.

but there is a practical world in which they operate. the thing about isis is anyone can pledge allegiance, it is not quite so simple for al-qaeda. and where these things tend to happen is in places where governance is pretty much out the window, like syria where is began, and then they went into iraq which itself wasjust coming out of the civil war that had been brewed up by the invasion in 2003 they took over one major city, and the other thing that is from down—to—earth, in addition to muslims, i agree with you, they hate them but they find the religious minorities and in the case of muscle but they find the religious minorities and in the case of mosul it was christians and with sri lanka it is christians. it comes to the fundamental cowardice. there is a fundamental cowardice, we blow ourselves up,

we're not afraid of death. but you walk into a church with 300 people, you are a coward. mark, what is it that societies can do to build resilience, thomas mentioned the failure of the president and prime minister in sri lanka to talk to each other and intelligence was not shared. there was no law to allow the prosecution of individuals who are joint foreign terror organisations. in terms of security, we are already at the maximum, we do not want democratic society to be a fortress and to have preventative arrests. we have to hold off these things because we are democrats and we reject violence. i think what we need more than anything is the moderates coming together from all religions and trying to foster

a cord for western europe, that is the big hope to have a moderate muslim diaspora. it is important to come together and realise that in all societies in europe, where the caliphate was not dead as yasmin said, there have been bombs and assassinations all over in paris and all that. so i think we have to come together and try to foster this idea especially with young muslims that the solution is democracy. and we cannot take all the blame away from western powers, libya is a total mess, yemen, morejihadis have been now influenced by yemen as they once were by bosnia and interestingly it is in america that they're doing some good work, one part of america working with one of the violent terrorists to find out what is in their head.

how do they identify them? they were about to go off and join islamic state and they got them and more people that are potentially savable, they're doing interesting work and we need to know, i think at the end it is belonging. they do not belong in their families, they feel totally over controlled and out there, they are told they do not belong in the countries where they are. we need to know what is going on in the heads. ohio is doing great. and also we need to create opportunities for young muslims because it is blocked for them right now in western europe. and women succeed better than men but the problem is young muslim men. and these guys hate that. coming together is all very well but when society cannot agree on a cohesive policy, these countries like libya or yemen,

i think the problem is now in the uk which is split down the middle now and the situations create opportunities for people to come in and exploit the very disunity of society. and populism is growing all over europe. i am a professor and i have some of the students whose thinking could easily lead them and i organise these discussions in spaces to talk to them and sometimes i come away absolutely exhausted and frightened at the things that they believe. and there we have to leave it. a fascinating topic and no doubt we will come back to that. right now we have to talk about president trump. it's official. president trump is coming on a state visit to the uk in earlyjune. cue protocol rows, a carriage ride with the queen and a 20 foot inflatable with tangerine coloured skin, a shock of gold hair, and a nappy. protestors say the trump baby blimp will fly again along with other "creative interventions".

thomas, last year when you think back to the previous visit, it was not an enormous success, if you planned it for this year, what would you worry about? security is the first thing and then theresa may is now such a kind of weak person as a host to invite him. compared to donald trump, she is rather weakened. the image in the mind of the people think this is a kind of disjointed meeting and so the government will have a hard time first of all to explain to a very damaging public in this country why it is necessary to have relations with america beyond donald trump. we have seen the president of china come to this country, the president of romania, a thug and a terrorist himself in office and they were received so we have to be able to separate

the office from the man. america is too important to be left to people like donald trump to determine. yetjeremy corbyn, john bercow, vince cable, all saying they're not going to the state banquet. that is their personal choice that they make. america is too important be to identified with donald trump and there will be an america beyond this man and we need to continue to invest in a fruitful relationship. at the same time preserve the right to not allow themselves to be invited to that dinner. that is fair enough but professionally speaking, this is an important visit and we have to make sure we do not allow donald trump to disrupt the relationship in his time of office. michael, as an american what do you think will be the issue on which, if there is a difficulty, where is it going to be? last time we had comments from the president on brexit, a comment attacking the mayor

of london about the handling of terror attacks, what is it going to be this time? i do not think you can't predict in advance, he types out in a tweet when it comes into his head and then everyone is cleaning up behind the 500 tonne elephant, he just says what comes to mind. the thing with him and in predicting what could happen is you know, i think he wants to ride in a coach, to be honest. i think it is that ride in the coach that appeals to him. and his view of himself in the world. and as for protesting, who can tell. last time we did not know what his schedule was going to be until the last minute. he never came to central london, he went straight to chequers and i would imagine they would have to organise a tight schedule

of events and it will be short because essentially he is by on his way to normandy for the 75th anniversary celebrations of d—day. so i would say you cannot say and huawei, you know something, on trade, europe and britain, they are going to take a different view on how to deal with china so i do not think it will come up. but huawei, it is a national security issue, in the uk we talk about a special relationship, the us has said, the secretary of state and president have said that huawei is a threat as they see it to national security and there will be questions about cooperation with intelligence allies. if it has not been on fox news, he will not know about it. mike pompeo and his entire national

security team will not bring it up with him because he will not get it, it is almost too sophisticated but if they talk about it on fox news, there was this terrible security breach in the british cabinet, someone leaked sensitive discussions about whether five g should include huawei, then he will think about it, that is literally the way things are going. like thomas, i think almost like the foreign secretary with queen victoria, there are only interests and not friends. there is nothing tangible to discuss because the big thing with trade, there's no way the uk can sign a bilateral agreement with us so it will be pomp and circumstance.

the british do that very well. they have had dreadful people coming as thomas i said, dictators and autocrats and so it will be purely pomp and circumstance with donald trump. i think the leader of the opposition and others who will miss the banquet, it is a lot of fun and it is good food! your point about the gold carriage, michael, is that just because he likes the idea of that or is it a kind of election asset as he goes into these elections as the us president so distracted by major events at home that he really will not have time to cause trouble in the uk? you refer to opportunity. i think it has election value but i think mostly it is about his sense

of self aggrandizement. what you see is what you get with him. he is someone who just wants to be the focus of all attention in whatever situation he is in. and getting a pumpkin turned into a golden carriage with her majesty is something that works for him. mentioning mueller and the upcoming elections, where are we on that because we did not talk about the aftermath last week. the mueller report put the ball in the democrat's court. here are ten incidents where you can explore whether this was really obstruction of justice, not to a legal standard, but perhaps to a legislative standard under the constitution. the democrats control the house of

representatives, their leader — speaker of the house nancy pelosi is disinclined at the moment to pursue impeachment for the partially because the time from now is short. we are going to have primary is beginning injanuary, this is now the end of april and you have 20 people now who have declared to be considered candidates for the presidency, to challenge donald trump. — primaries. the whole situation is crazy. there's a lot of legislating to be done, and that is what they should be concentrating on but instead they are out raising money, some of it with small donations, much of it from the traditional ways and you have 20 people of whom only one has a chance of winning and so the democrats, i fear, are going to drop the ball unless they sit down and really think what is their priority. do we continue to try to legislatively hold donald trump to account, maintain the balance, the checks and balances in our constitution orjust go into an egotistical free for all and try and get

the nomination, the leadership of the party? it must be nice for him to get away and get into a golden carriage because he is being pursued for the one thing i do admire about america is they have used every legal official avenue to expose what this man is like. what i cannot understand is why theresa may decides to invite him at a time when we are ripped apart, we do not know what is going to be happening injune, we do not know if she will still be there. the society's in a mess and i can see why he wants to come, but why are we getting here now? why could we not get in later? the invitation was extended to him at the end of 2016. we didn't know then what kind of mess uk would be in. but we should state not now, it is a terrible time. that's why we should say not now, please. it is a terrible time. but it is now going back to us domestic politics, joe biden, obviously

the former vice president, he has thrown his hat into the ring. thomas, you have been posted in washington, when you seejoe biden derided by president trump as sleepyjoe who makes him feel like a young, vibrant man again, what do you make of that? well it will be a slinging match of dirt between these old men each way. i think it is courageous ofjoe biden to think he could be lucky on the third time. i think he will be very unlucky. i think america does not want someone of his ilk who has been proven not to be quite presidential timber twice before. to give it to him when he is close to 80 years of age. ronald reagan was 70 when he became president and that was considered old but he managed beautifully. i do not think biden has the same kind of fibre in him to turn around public opinion about himself and appear to be the victor of tomorrow. we are going to leave us

presidential politics for this week because we can obviously come back to it, and we have elections in this country, local elections next week and european elections in four weeks' time. barring a brexit agreement. now, mark, you have been in brussels and you have been watching here as well. what you think the chances are of may and jeremy corbyn getting a brexit deal over the line to avoid having european elections? i think it's zero. zero? i spent a week in brussels and they say to you, it will be postponed and postponed again three, four and five times and then brexit will die, that is the view in brussels. simply by default because there's nothing else and in fact in europe they have a word for the situation

of the uk, the never—exiting—country that is how the uk is called in brussels. because the europeans are turning the page, they will have a new commission and parliament, they will have a new head of european bank and they have big issues which they want to settle, china, artificial intelligence, defence, populism, migration and all that. so for them, brexit has become no longer a priority like it was three years ago. it has become a nuisance and will continue like this. so, not paying attention? not paying attention and anyway i cannot see anything going on in the uk that will change that. does anyone disagree and think there is an above zero chance of the labour party and the government getting a deal over the line? the european election, if you have people like coco the clown and nigel parish, what will that do to the parliament

if they stand ? in the end, my guess is not much. it is interesting, if someone behaves like a clown and we see that on the news, i do not think it makes much difference. but he launched a brexit party two weeks ago and it is doing well in the polls. we will see what happens in respect of that. he won't talk about huawei. but let's assume that brexit is still an ongoing process while donald trump is here and that is where he will stick his oar in, he will say i think brexit is a great idea. i personally will give you, because it is in my gift, i will give you a deal. he promises a deal, that will be in the price for that but he cannot do that. he can't! but there is parallels between the opposition to brexit and the opposition to donald trump in america because you have these european elections coming up.

there is a substantial part of the country that would like to vote for a pro—european person and you have maybe five parties standing in constituencies and that vote will be split and people like farage will end up getting the seats. and that is insane. just quick the european parliament, the british will have no role in the new parliament because the europeans are organising that the british are left out. exactly, because the public at large in the uk has little interest in what happens. the local elections in may are for more important in the uk than the european elections which are fast to begin with because we do not know if anyone we vote for will take their places, because by some miracle theresa may could get her deal through and then the whole election as far as uk is concerned is totally

null and void. —— are a farce. so, a lot of uncertainty but assuming the elections go ahead they willjust have happened as donald trump is arriving at the end of may. how severely punished will the brexit mess and uncertainty, will the government be and the opposition? i think this is just not — i do not agree with thomas and i think the european vote is now becoming another brexit vote and unfortunately the remain side is useless and the brexit side is already putting up populism. so it will be, or maybe we do need donald trump to come and make us forget! to the mess that we are in. even that sounds a bit more entertaining than where we are! and you know what? we should ignore him, he is thin—skinned, we should not protest. but the prime minister cannot ignore him, when you say the rest of us hate him, you speak

for yourself, not the whole population of the uk. theresa may has to be part of this visit on the receiving side, she obviously is somewhat weaker now than a year ago when he came last july. just how much difficulties she in if she gets punished at the opinion polls, the tory leadership uncertainty, indiscipline in the cabinet and an ongoing brexit crisis, she is vulnerable to difficulties arising from the trump visit. she cannot get thrown up before december so she can go on and on being more feeble and more feeble unless there is enough of a move to get rid of her. i cannot see her resigning. so that will be another crisis. she has had so many but she is growing more feeble. and life will go on with the eu going their own way and the uk

sinking more and more. trump will held her hand, the last time she was holding his hand and this time she will need him to hold her hand. the mechanism to get rid of her will never be triggered because no one has any clear idea of who could replace her. so the prime minister — we can all agree she has endured a lot since the last trump visit and she will endure again. i was thinking on the way into the studio, in 1996 and 1997 labour was about 20 points clear for the identity of the tories and they said it is ok, we will lose the next election, we need a spell in opposition. jeremy corbyn is not that far ahead,

they think that they can win again and i do not, ijust think we're going to be into this set of dynamics for us some time. forever! and there we leave it. thank you very much. that's it for dateline london for this week — we're back next week at the same time. goodbye. hello. after a turbulent saturday courtesy of storm hanna, sunday looks seven difficultly quieter. there will still be some showers yes, but sunny spells and crucially a lot less wind than it was. the day sta rts a lot less wind than it was. the day starts off with one or two showers across parts of merseyside and the midlands, one or two showers across eastern england and cloud will try to bring them patchy rain across northern ireland. but in between, lots of dry weather, some spells of

sunshine, the wins much lighter than they were. temperatures between 12-16 than they were. temperatures between 12— 16 degrees. as we go through sunday night, this area of cloud and battery rain will try to make progress in its words, it won't make very much, not getting much further than northern ireland, west wales. elsewhere, clear spells, than northern ireland, west wales. elsewhere, clearspells, mistand dog patches will turn chilli across some parts of eastern wales —— fog patches, lots of dry weather to cover monday and tuesday, just a bit of rain in the west.

hello and welcome to bbc news. i'm reged ahmad. a woman has died and at least three people have been wounded in a shooting at a synagogue in california. a gunman opened fire during a passover celebration in north of san diego. a i9—year—old man has been arrested. chris buckler has the story. the attack happened as a passover celebration was being held at the synagogue in poway near san diego. it is understood police had issued a warning shortly beforehand and were investigating reports of a man armed with a gun.