compared to yesterday. storm hanna has gone off and cleared into parts of northern europe but this area of cloud producing a few showers here and there and thicker cloud towards northern ireland and western wales, devon and cornwall producing outbreaks of rain, but the cloud thins and breaks to allow hazy sunshine, the best of the blue skies across parts of scotland and could fit 16 or 17. the temperature higher thanit fit 16 or 17. the temperature higher than it was through yesterday. drizzle and western areas may make inroads into western scotland and the rest of wales and somerset but then comes to a halt, the temperature up to around 7—9. with clear skies around the temperature into low single figures and mist and fog to start monday, sunny spells breaking through for scotland and england, patchy rain in the west and the temperature up a degree so on today.

hello, this is bbc news. now on bbc news it's time for dateline london. hello and welcome to dateline london. this week, the caliphate is over but the carnage continues. after losing its last stronghold in syria and iraq, will islamic state go global? and the last time president trump visited london he criticised the prime minister, kept the queen waiting and was stocked by protesters and a giant inflatable. this time it is a state visit but will the pomp and ceremony keep things on track or will the uk's

drawn out political crisis leave even more things to go wrong? also, i only promise you one brexit free programme and that was last week so be warned. my guest, author and long—time correspondent, and michael goldfarb of the podcast frdh, which stands for first rough draft of history, which is what you are doing this week. we discussed the impact of religion on world including how faith can be manipulative for a message of hate and then we had a demonstration, one synchronised moment of horror in sri la nka synchronised moment of horror in sri lanka which left hundreds of lives destroyed and thousands shattered, the muslim community fearing backlash and a tourism —dependent economy reeling. the power of hate. that is where we are, the power of

hate. these guys, we now know that there is some kind of link with iis, there is some kind of link with iis, there appears to be links with they are more extremist missionaries of hate. and it is a world which we will have to get used to living in and finding different ways, perhaps. the premature declaration of the end of the caliphate was stupid, these things don't end in quite that way. iam things don't end in quite that way. i am supervising a major research programme at the moment called the inner lives of troubled young muslims, and among them are a lot of educated young muslims, and i am making no excuses for these murderers, who not only they killed the soul of their country after a terrible history under ten years of peace, unforgivable. and of course we do believe that some of those

bombers were wealthy, privileged elite young men. and they hate ordinary muslims almost more than they hate anybody else, who are not filled with the hit they are, and what you then have to say is they are doing this and jihad ease on the ha rd are doing this and jihad ease on the hard right are doing their own thing. with new zealand global sympathy was raised towards muslims, these guys come in and shatter that. so you say the motive is to destroy sympathy for muslims? they destroy peace between the religions. do you ee, peace between the religions. do you agree, is this a clash of civilisations motivation? it is so destructive. they think there can be marketers. there is still a cult of death behind it which is in a sense inexplicable in this day and age when we talk about progress and hope and aspiration and so forth. this element in global society which is

determined to kill off any kind of consensus that might build up, and the problem with this, it is so asymmetrical. it is asymmetrical warfare. they don't need feet on the ground or soldiers, they have explosives tied to their backs and you can't get hold of them, especially with a place like sri la nka especially with a place like sri lanka when you have domestic problems with the prime minister and the president not even on speaking terms, and so many of these people can slip through a network, sol have no answer. the other thing, can ijust say... thomasjust have no answer. the other thing, can i just say... thomasjust hit have no answer. the other thing, can ijust say... thomasjust hit on something that is important about the politics in sri lanka, because there is the abstract sense of isis as the caliphate, anyone can stand up as the caliphate, anyone can stand up and say, i declare a caliphate, but there is a practical world in

which he operates. the thing about isis, anyone can pledge allegiance and thus become isis. it is not quite so simple for al-qaeda, and where these things tend to happen is in places where governance is pretty much out the window, like syria, and then they went into iraq, which was just itself coming out of a civil war that had been brewed up by the invasion in 2003. they took over one major city, mosul, and the other thing that brings them down to earth is that in addition to muslims who they hate, they find religious minorities, and in the case of mosul it was christians and yes ladies, and were sri lanka it is christians, and were sri lanka it is christians, and it comes with the fundamental cowardice. —— yazidis. you are

basically a coward, you walk into a church with 300 people you are a coward. let's hear from you, what is it that societies can do to build resilience? thomas was mentioning the failure of the president and prime minister in sri lanka to talk to each other, intelligence wasn't shared and there was not a law to prosecute individuals who served with foreign terror institutions. in terms of security, very little. we are at the maximum and we don't want democratic society to be like that. we reject violence. i think what we need more than anything is muslims, christians and dues coming together to try to foster this thing, especially in western europe, which is at the end the hope to have

moderate muslims. it is very important that we come together and realise that in all societies in europe, and there have been assassinations and bombs all over while it was going, sol assassinations and bombs all over while it was going, so i think we have to come together and try to foster this idea, especially when the solution is really democracy. we cannot take all the blame away from western powers. libya is in a total mess. yemen, more jihadis western powers. libya is in a total mess. yemen, morejihadis have been influenced by yemen as they have been by bosnia. in america they are doing very good part, one part of america working with violent terrorists to find out. how are they

identifying them? they were about to go off andjoin identifying them? they were about to go off and join isis and they caught them, but they put them away with those potentially saleable, and they are doing interesting work and we need to know. i think at the end it is belonging. they don't belong in theirfamilies, they is belonging. they don't belong in their families, they feel totally over controlled and not free and outer layer of the are told they do not belong, and we need to know what is going on in their heads. —— and out there they are told they do not belong. there are a lot of successful muslims in this country, more than ever before. the problem is men, young muslim men. and these quys is men, young muslim men. and these guys hate that. coming together is all very well when societies cannot agree with the cohesive policy towards them, like in countries like yemen. the problem we have in

britain is that it is very interestingly structured country split down the middle and this creates opportunities for people to come in and exploit the very disunity. and populism all over europe. i am a professor and i have some of the students who are not terrorists but who is thinking could very easily lead them, and i organise these discussions in spaces to talk to them, and sometimes i come away absolutely exhausted, frightened that the stuff they believe. and there we are going to have to leave it, a fascinating topic and we will no doubt come back topic and we will no doubt come back to it. but right now we have to talk about president trump's visit to the uk. it is now official, he is coming in earlyjune. protocol rows, keeping the queen waiting, a giant inflata ble keeping the queen waiting, a giant inflatable and unhappy. protesters say the baby blimp will fly again along with other so—called creative

interventions. this, last year, when you think back to the previous visit it was an enormous success with lots of problems. this year what would you plan? security is the first thing. the second is that theresa may is now such a weak person to host, although officially the queen invited him, but she is compared to donald trump as a rather weak person. this is a totally disjointed sort of meeting and the government will have a hard time first of all to explain to a very doubting public in this country why it is necessary to have a relation with america beyond the character traits of donald trump. we have seen the president of china come to this country, 25 years ago the president of romania, a thug and a terrorist himself in office, were received, so we have to separate the office from

the man. america is too important to be left to people like trump. we have had jeremy corbyn, john virgo, ian blackford, vince cable, all saying they are not going. ian blackford, vince cable, all saying they are not goingm ian blackford, vince cable, all saying they are not going. it is the people at large, we have to understand, that america is too important to be identified with mr trump. there will be in america beyond this month so we have to invest in the relationship and that the same time reserve the right to not allow themselves to be invited to the queen's dinner, fair enough, but professionally speaking, this is an important visit and we have to make sure that we don't allow mr trump to disrupt the relationship in his time in office. as an american, what do you think will be the issue, if there is a faux pas or a difficulty, where is it going to be? last time there were comments by the president on brexit, a comment

attacking the mayor of london about the handling of terror attacks.|j don't think you can predict in advance, i don't think he predicts in advance, it comes to his head and he takes it out in a tweet and everybody cleaning up behind the 500 tonne elephant. he just says what comes to mind. the thing with him and predicting what will happen, i think he really wants the ride on the coach, to be honest. it is that right and the coach that appeals to him and his view of himself in the world. and as for protesting, who can tell? first of all, last time we didn't know what his schedule was going to be until the last minute. he never came to central london and we nt he never came to central london and went straight to chequers. i would imagine that they will probably have to organise a very similar tightly

held schedule of events, and it will be short because he is stopping by essentially on his way to normandy for the 75th anniversary celebrations of the day. sol for the 75th anniversary celebrations of the day. so i would say you cannot say. on trade, europe and britain, going to take a different view of how to deal with china so i don't think it will come up. i don't think there will be a trade negotiation because britain are still in, but insofar as it is a national security issue, we talk in the uk about a special security relationship and the uk has said, that it relationship and the uk has said, thatitis relationship and the uk has said, that it is a threat to national security. if it hasn't been on fox news he won't know about it. mike

pompeo will not bring it up to him because he will not get it, it is almost too sophisticated. if they start talking about it on fox news, there was this terrible security breach and somebody leaked out sensitive discussions about whether 56 should include huawei because of its alleged ability to spy back on us, then he will think about it. that is literally the way things are going in washington. that is literally the way things are going in washingtonlj that is literally the way things are going in washington. i think, that is literally the way things are going in washington. ithink, like thomas, since queen victoria the state have no friends are allies, only interests. it is pomp and ceremony because there is nothing tangible to discuss with trade. the big thing with global britain is not taking place so there is no way they can signa taking place so there is no way they can sign a bilateral us — uk, so it will be pomp and circumstance and the british do that very well.

thomas said, dreadful people coming, dictators and autocrats, so i think personally that the leader of the opposition and the others who missed the banquet, iwent opposition and the others who missed the banquet, i went to the one with nicolas sarkozy, it is lots of fun and good food. does he want that just because he likes the idea of it or is it the bling of it, or is he so distracted by major events at home, the aftermath of the miller report, but he won't have time or the inclination to cause trouble in the inclination to cause trouble in the uk. it has an election value but i think mostly it is about his own sense of self—aggrandisement. the interesting thing is, and there are other things talk about with

twe nty20, other things talk about with twenty20, it other things talk about with twe nty20, it is other things talk about with twenty20, it is what you see is what you get with him. he is someone who just wants to be the focus of all attention in whatever situation he is, and getting him into a pumpkin turned into a golden carriage with her majesty... mentioning the twe nty20 her majesty... mentioning the twenty20 election upcoming, where are we on that? we talked about religion last week, we didn't do the mueller aftermath. the mueller report put the ball in the democrats multi—mac court. here are ten instances where you could explore whether this really was obstruction ofjustice, not to illegal standard but perhaps to be legislated standard under our constitution. the democrats control the house of representatives. the speaker of the house nancy pelosi is disinclined at the moment to pursue impeachment partly because the timeframe now is

very short. we are going to have primary starting in january and you now have 20 people who have declared to be considered candidates for the presidency to challenge donald trump, and the whole situation is absolutely crazy. there is a lot of legislative work to be done and that is what they should be concentrating on the. instead, they are out raising money, some of it in small donations, a lot of it the traditional ways, and you have 20 people only one of whom has a chance of winning, and so the democrats are i fear going to drop the ball unless they sit down and really think, what is the priority? do we continue to try to legislatively hold donald trump to account, maintain the checks and balances that are in our constitution, or do we just go into an egotistical free for all and try to get the nomination and leadership of the party? it must be nice for

him to get away and get into a golden coach because he is being sued. one thing i do admire about america as they have used every legal official avenue to expose what this man is like. what i can't understand is why theresa may decides to invite him at a time when we are ripped apart. we don't know what is going to be happening in june, we don't know whether she will still be there. the society is in a mess. i can see why he wants to come, why are we getting him here now, why couldn't we get him in later? the invitation was extended at the end of 2017 and we didn't know at the time what kind of a mess britain would be end. that is why we should say not now, please. it is a terrible time. but it is now and going back to us domestic politics. joe biden, former vice president, threw his hat in the ring. when you

seejoe biden threw his hat in the ring. when you see joe biden derided threw his hat in the ring. when you seejoe biden derided by president trump as sleepy joe seejoe biden derided by president trump as sleepyjoe who makes him feel like a young vibrant man, 76 plays 72, what do you think? he could come back with similar attributes and it will be a slanging match between old men both way. i think it is very courageous ofjoe biden to think third time he might be lucky, i think he will be very unlucky. i don't think america want someone unlucky. i don't think america want someone of his ilk who has been prove n someone of his ilk who has been proven to be not quite presidential timber twice before, to give it to him when he is nudging 80 years of age. ronald reagan was 70 but managed beautifully. i don't think joe biden has the same kind of fibre in him to turn around public opinion and appear the victor of tomorrow. we are going to leave us presidential politics for this week now, because we will come back to

it, but we have elections in this country, local elections next week. european elections in four weeks' time. barring a brexit agreement. mark, you have been in brussels and watching here as well. what do you think the chances are of theresa may and jeremy corbyn getting a brexit deal over the line to avoid having european elections on may 23 to? zero. fantastic, ispent european elections on may 23 to? zero. fantastic, i spent a week in brussels, and basically with the situation in the uk it will be impossible and then brexit will die, simply because there is nothing else. and in fact europe have a word for the situation of the uk, the never exciting country, that is how the uk is called in brussels. ——

never exiting. they will have a new commission and new parliament and the new head of europe bank, and they have big issues, they want to settle, which is china, artificial intelligence, defence, populism, migration and all that, so for them, brexit has become no longer a priority like it was three years ago. it was a nuisance and it will continue like this. so not paying attention? not paying attention than there anyway i cannot see anything is going on in britain that will change. does anyone around this table disagree? does anyone think there is an above zero chance of the labour party and the government getting a deal? if people like nigel farage and coco the clown and all of that think they can stand, what will that think they can stand, what will that do to the parliament? in the

end, my guess is not much. nigel farage behaves like a clown and we see it on the news, i don't think it makes much of a difference. you say he built behaves like a clown, the brexit party is doing well in the polls? exactly and we will see what happens with that. just to go back with what we said, he want to talk about huawei but let's assume brexit is still an ongoing process, i think thatis is still an ongoing process, i think that is were donald trump will stick his oar in. i am going to give you personally, i will give you a deal. and the headline, trump promises brexit deal, and he can't. what is interesting is the parallel between the opposition to brexit and the opposition to trump in america, because you have these european elections coming up, there is a substantial part of the country that would like to vote for a

pro—european person and yet you have ford and sometimes five parties standing in constituencies, that the vote will be split and people like nigel farage will end up getting the seat and that is insane. just very quickly on europe and parliament, the british will have no role in the new parliament because the british are left out. exactly because the public at large in britain has little interest in what happens with this vote. the local elections in may are far more important for britain than the european elections which are a farce to begin with because we don't know if they will ta ke because we don't know if they will take their places, because by some miracle or other theresa may might get a deal through, in which case the election for the european parliament as far as britain is concerned is totally null and void. a lot of uncertainty but assuming

the elections go ahead, they will just have happened as donald trump is arriving end of may. how severely punished for the brexit mess and uncertainty will the government beyond the opposition be?” uncertainty will the government beyond the opposition be? i think this is not just beyond the opposition be? i think this is notjust i don't agree with thomas, i think the european vote is now becoming another brexit vote, and unfortunately the remain side is useless and the brexit side is already whipping up populism, so it will be, or maybe we do need donald trump to come and make us forget. all the mess we are in! even a trump visit sounds a little bit more entertaining than where we are! and we should ignore him because he is thin—skinned. we shouldn't protest. the prime minister cannot ignore him. the rest of us, we hate him. when you say the rest of us, you are speaking for yourself. not all the viewers. some people who love trump.

theresa may has to be part of this visit, on the receiving side. she is obviously somewhat weaker now than she was one year obviously somewhat weaker now than she was one year ago, obviously somewhat weaker now than she was one year ago, and mark, just how much difficulty is she in if she gets punished at the polls and has tory leadership uncertainty, indiscipline and cabinet and the ongoing brexit crisis, she is vulnerable to difficulties arising? she can go on and on and on being more feeble, more feeble, but unless there is a mechanism to get rid of her, which the resident, i can't see her, which the resident, i can't see her resigning and election and all that, so that will be another crisis. she has had so many but she is getting more feeble and more feeble, and life will go on with the eu going theirown feeble, and life will go on with the eu going their own way and britain sinking more and more. trump will

hold her hand, last time she was holding his hand this time she will need him to hold hers. the mechanism to get rid of her will never be triggered because nobody knows who could succeed her. no one has any clear idea. so can we all agree that the prime minister who has endured a lot over the last year will endure more? yes. i was thinking on the way into the studio, in 1996 and 1997... this needs to be short. labour was 20 points clear in the toady said it is ok, we will lose the next election because we need a spell in opposition. jeremy corbyn is not that far ahead and the think they can win again and they don't want a spell in opposition and ijust think we will be in this second law of thermodynamics place for a while. forever! and there we leave it, thank you all as ever. thank you very much. that is it for dateline

london this week, back next week, same place, same time, goodbye. overall, a much calmer day compared with yesterday but still a keen breeze across some parts of england, especially eastern counties through this afternoon, keeping things in the chilly side. a few showers for the chilly side. a few showers for the south—east. lighter winds north and west but cloud bringing outbreaks of rain, turning damper through parts of pembrokeshire and into devon. 11—13 but elsewhere sunny spells and into the mid teens, perhaps 16 or 17 across some parts of scotla nd perhaps 16 or 17 across some parts of scotland where the sunshine will be at its best. through tonight,

some mist and fog patches forming, patchy rain or drizzle which becomes lighter as we go through the night. keeping the temperature up but in between, could be frost around until first thing. fog in eastern england taking a while to shift but once it goes, dry and reasonably sunny weather, hazy sunshine for parts of scotla nd weather, hazy sunshine for parts of scotland and wales.

this is bbc news. the headlines at 12:00pm. britain's fracking tsar quits after six months in thejob, blaming ministers for paying too much attention to the environmental lobby. from within, you can't do very much, and it means at the moment, when you have government in such terrible paralysis, you do have to do something as dramatic as this in order to have your voice heard. a woman is shot dead and three people are injured at a synagogue in california. police are questioning a 19—year—old man. still hoping britain won't take part in next month's european elections, the conservative party chairman, brandon lewis. security fears in sri lanka sees church services cancelled a week after more than 250 people were killed in the