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hello. this is bbc news with martine croxall. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment. first, the headlines. a thrilling battle for the premier league crown — manchester city triumphed with a one—point lead over liverpool. one of the happiest days of my life. i am so happy. so fulfilled. this season we played against one of the strongest oppositions the premier league has known and it kept going and going. 11 days to go the european elections that the conservatives admit will be difficult for them.
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the light aircraft that crashed onto a south wales road — three people were pulled from the wreckage. the bafta goes to... killing eve to. the tale of an assassin and her pursuer is named best drama series at the bafta tv awards. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me arejoe twyman, who's the director of deltapoll, and the broadcaster lynn faulds wood. both football teams are featured tonight! vicariously, somewhat! many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. the telegraph leads on figures which show a big rise in compensation paid out by the nhs for mistakes and harm caused by delays. the guardian has a shadow brexit
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secretary saying a second referendum is crucial to any deal and the initial times highlights a possible meeting between president trump and china's president on trade on the express has a rise in the number of people dying of heart disease. the metro, the plane crash in which people have a narrow escape. let us begin. with support! thank you for coming along with this! the guardian, the front page is with me rather than the back page! old habits die hard! could you? can i borrow that? pep guardiola's party... he is held aloft by his team. thank you! yes. iam party... he is held aloft by his team. thank you! yes. i am learning all of their names! manchester city... liverpool. . .! if it is
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all of their names! manchester city... liverpool...! if it is not leicester i'm not bothered. i know that you live in a house where manchester city... solid blue! i am thrilled because it means... i have had a great year watching. himself being john stapleton, he was in brighton and imagine if they lost! this particular premiership, whatever it is cold... it has been thrilling because liverpool and man city, instead of one of them walking off with that, it has gone right to the line. and in the red corner, joe twyman... i the line. and in the red corner, joe twyman. .. i know that politics and sport can be hugely partisan! i have spoken to an expert on football, the person i know he knows more than anyone else is my eight—year—old nephew, teddy. named after teddy sheringham! he says that liverpool
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have only lost one game in the premier league all season and they deserve it. and i think a lot of fa ns deserve it. and i think a lot of fans out there would agree. just one loss, 97 points, coming second... cani loss, 97 points, coming second... can i speak for the defence? the loss, 97 points, coming second... can i speakfor the defence? the i newspaper... sergio aguero. .. the reason liverpool did not beat man city is because they drew a lot of matches. have i stress that my nephew knows more about football that anybody else and he says they deserve a... i cannot argue... i know nothing! it has been an amazing season. know nothing! it has been an amazing season. for both teams to finish on 98 and 97, chelsea third on 73, that shows what a great pair of teams they are. we will talk about some news! let's move on. we shall do
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that in the next hour. don't spoil this! i will run through these quickly. the daily telegraph, pay—outs for nhs errors double in five years. it has been put down to blunders and errors made by staff according to the patient groups that have been conducting this but it is pa rt have been conducting this but it is part of a number of statistics that painta part of a number of statistics that paint a picture of strain on the nhs. waiting lists are up, heart disease increasing is a problem and peter wales, the chief executive of the charity has urged the government to do more to protect heart patients. i ran the european cancer patients. i ran the european cancer patient coalition and i know there are some complicated medicines and a lot of doctors learn their trade 30 years ago and they cannot possibly keep up with all of this. there is lots of nuanced reasons. we have to find better ways in the future. and the nation has to watch things like
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alcohol consumption. in the telegraph has the target of food waste? in the telegraph has the target of food waste ? it in the telegraph has the target of food waste? it says it is an economic and moral scandal, the amount of food we waste, and it says, it is a telegraph so it must be true, the average family weighs £500 every year on food.” be true, the average family weighs £500 every year on food. i don't! i don't think i would waste millions on food, every year... i am very much a wait and see —— lick it and wait and see kind of guy! i think that this is absolutely the kind of thing we need to do more of. i think that local councils could do more with away they dispose of food also,
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we all need to connect better with food in away we use and dispose of it. and they say that smaller portions would help with the waistline of the nation.” fundamentally disagree! i take no notice of the news myself. much to the dismay of my children. keir starmer is of the opinion that any deal they can get through parliament will only, if it scrapes through, and in order to maintain any kind of party discipline or support from their own parties, keir starmer believes that some sort of poll will be needed in this rages —— raises huge questions about what
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would be asked. would you put the deal towards the people and offer them no deal as an option or offer them no deal as an option or offer them remain in the eu is an option or would it be three options? it becomes very complicated quickly and in theory, a second referendum would be easier but it might make things more difficult. we have been saying the same thing is for three years, give or take. my plan is wejust say, we are actually a clever country that is the laughing stock of the world, let's go back to where we we re of the world, let's go back to where we were three years ago and say that we were three years ago and say that we made a terrible mess of this. we wrote this and start again. have an entirely new referendum? not a new referendum. a lot of people feel that you what they were voting for. split down the middle. only a third of people support revoking this. it would be hugely damaging to the
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democratic process in this country. cani democratic process in this country. can i talk about the eye. pressure growing on the pm to quit as support colla pses. growing on the pm to quit as support collapses. we have european elections coming. the conservatives recognise it might be pretty rough for them. it will be rough for them and for the labour party and in some areas you have change uk against the lib dems so it will be rougher both of them. who knows what is going to happen and if you just thought about revoking this we would not need to have these european elections. we definitely would need to have the european elections! this is a hugely difficult moment for both main parties and the best they can hope for is to not be absolutely wiped out. and for the two main parties to be in this position is really poor. can we talk about tariffs? financial times... trump meeting to rescue trade accord a strong possibility.
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this is just brinkmanship after brinkmanship? this is donald trump being donald trump. 300 billion dollars of chinese imports will be hurt with 25% tariffs according to the administration, will that happen, it remains to be seen... some of that has come into effect already? these are extra. 200 billion or million of tariffs. goods in transit. this is goods that have not left china yet. and you cannot help feeling that because you're so whimsical, there is a strong possibility that this accord will not happen and then it will. you just know —— just don't know how you are going with him. it is interesting that the tactics the chinese have used, which as you think you are there and then you change your mind. that is exactly what he has talked about in his own business. it is almost as if you read a book that they might have read! maybe he has read the art of
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war! we will see. with some suet pudding be helpful to him? many things would be helpful! everybody says a trade wires, tariff worse, don't do anybody any favours. and eventually it will be the american consumers who face higher prices. eventually it will be the american consumers who face higher pricesm course because a lot of their stuff comes from china. a lot of stuff in this china —— country comes from china so we will find the backlash from this as well. it demonstrates that trade negotiations are not straightforward and this is perhaps something that everybody needs to remember regarding brexit discussions. they are hinting at a strong possibility that it will be overturned at the last minute. that would surprise me! there is the g20 summit at the end ofjune and supposedly there might or might not bea supposedly there might or might not be a discussion between the chinese president and president trump that made for some conclusion. what is
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clear from this article is everything is up for grabs. shall we talk about some towards? the baftas? the matter, the picture ofjodie comer, who is in killing eve. and they have a very big presence at the baftas. they had the most nominations. the best drama. fiona shaw winning for best supporting actress. i haven't even watched it yet. one of the many things i need to watch. you were working! yes! i have not watched any of it. it is brilliant. what is amazing about this young woman, i think she is 24, she is from liverpool by the side of things... to my untutored ears. and she is a fairly normal person by the looks of things, from liverpool, who is now this phenomenal star. and she has that magical thing where she looks charming one second and the
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next she is evil personified. she is amazing. and the other thing that is amazing. and the other thing that is amazing is the drama was written by phoebe waller bridge. she is amazing. killing eve was the best thing i saw last year. jodie comer and fiona showers my performances we re and fiona showers my performances were fantastic. the whole thing was brilliant and it deserves all the plaudits. i shall have to watch that. could be a late night! i will blow our own trumpet... i don't do this often... previously was nominated for 26 towards. the anthem has stopped! i can carry on! 26 towards and we won 16 of those. not bad! in this era of so much choice! that is pretty good going. and brilliant from drama. i know we are not perfect. can you solve brexit,
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please? we certainly can't. that's it for the papers this hour. joe twyman and lynn faulds wood will be back at ii.30pm for another look at the papers. don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you — seven days a week — at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you tojoe and lynn. next on bbc news, it's click.
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however in the uk, police are pushing ahead with live facial recognition, deploying specially equipped vans to events such as london's annual notting hill carnival and major football games. i am completely comfortable that the activity we are doing in the trials is lawful and appropriate. but this has become a highly controversial issue, with civil liberties groups claiming that the technology is inaccurate, intrusive and infringes on an individual‘s right to privacy. for the last year, jeff white has been following the uk police's deployment of facial recognition. the frontline in facial recognition. police cameras in an east london street — everyone gets scanned. if you refuse, here is what can happen. if i want to cover my face i'll cover my face, don't push me over... this man didn't want to be caught by the police cameras, so he covered his face. police stopped him, they photographed him anyway, an argument followed. how would you like it if you walked down the street
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and someone grabbed you? officer: calm yourself down, or you're going in handcuffs. woman: what's your suspicion? the fact he has walked past a clearly marked facial recognition thing, and covered his face... i would do the same, i would do the same. ..gives us grounds to stop him. no it doesn't! the police said this was disorderly behaviour, so they gave him a fine. the chap told me down the road, he said they got facial recognition. so i walked past like that, it is a cold day as well, soon as i have done that, the police officer has asked me to come to him. i have got my back up, i said to him, (bleep) off, basically. i said i don't want my face shown on anything. if i want to cover my face, i will cover my face. no—one is going to tell me not to cover my face. i have a £90 fine, look at that. £90, thanks lads, £90, well done. he was caught up in the last of ten trials carried out by the metropolitan police. the met have had successes — there were three arrests from facial recognition on this test day alone. but the trials have
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proved controversial. opponents say they are taking place in a legal vacuum. there is nothing in uk law that has the words "facial recognition." there is no legal basis for police to be using facial recognition. there are no legal limitations on how they can use it, no policy, no regulation. this is a free for all. we don't know who's on the watch lists, we didn't know how long the images were going to be stored for, and the police are kind of making up rules as they go along. my ultimate fear is that we would have live facial recognition capabilities on our gargantuan cctv network, which is about 6 million cameras in the uk. if that happens, the nature of life in this country would change. it would mean that everywhere we go we could be identified, tracked, that we would be leaving a location data trail, that your face could be searched and a detailed record of your movements gained. police argue that in a time when every smartphone camera has facial recognition,
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why should they be left behind? i believe, as does the commissioner and the management board of the met, believe not trialling such technology would be neglectful. we ought to explore all technology to see how it can keep people safer, how it can make policing more effective. however we are completely aware of some of the concerns that are raised, and what we're doing with these trials is actually trying to understand those better, so we can actually protect human rights but also keep people safe at the same time. we're reviewing all capabilities in terms of live facial recognition, and absolutely the technology is there for body—worn or smaller devices to be fitted with facial recognition technology, as is cctv. so absolutely we will look at that, but again the right safeguards and the right reviews and learning have to be put around that. it is notjust cameras on vans. last summer, outside one of london's biggest shopping malls, police cctv scanned thousands of shoppers — aimed, they say,
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at spotting known criminals. this is all about making our streets in our communities safer. people who are unlawfully at large may well be reoffending, and it's really clear that we need a tactic, another tactic, which is why we are deploying this technology now, to apprehend these individuals and bring them to justice. that is what the people want and that is what we are responding to. i want to be absolutely clear. the technology is very accurate and reliable. the human intervention side is the safeguard we have got in place. despite the warning signs, many passers—by do not know what was happening. when they found out, the reaction was mixed. some thought it was an improvement on current policing methods. it is better than stop—and—search. that's a good point. it is better than stop—and—search. at least that would be discriminative. it is a bit creepy, i have to say. i wouldn't like to feel like i am
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being watched all day long. it is notjust in london that the tech is being tested. south wales police have carried out more than a dozen trials, including at the champions league final, using similar equipment to the met. after you, hop inside. it is quite cosy, isn't it. let's have a look. so we have two cameras on the roof of the vehicle, one at the front and one at the back. both 360 ability, so we can control them from in the vehicle. focus all around the vehicle. when tested on a member of police staff, the system quickly spotted herface and matched it almost instantly to a file photo, even though the two were quite different. here, heading to our headquarters, it has picked up, it has come up withjulia gardiner, it shows her name and almost instantly generates an alert. once checked that alert can be relayed to an officer in the street, who can approach the suspect and verify the match. the system is incredibly sensitive. the starting point is the eyes,
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the eyes are really important in terms of facial recognition technology. often those eyes are visible with face coverings, to include motorcycle helmets, so the technology does work with motorcycle helmets as well. using facial recognition is not new for the police. what has changed is that systems like this one work in real—time and across massive numbers. the system acts as a big filter, it enables the officers to find that needle in a haystack. if you have got hundreds of thousands of people walking past the camera, it would be incredibly difficult with the human eye to spot one of the 700 you are looking for. so it gives the officers an indication, so it could be that individual. the system works by matching the camera footage to a database of file photos, and that is part of the controversy. so—called intelligence data bases include people who have never been convicted, as does the police national database, which includes more than 10 million photos. that database then could include
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people who were found not guilty, perfectly innocent people. at the moment, but they can have their image removed. but only if they apply to? only if they apply to, but measures are afoot to automate the process. south wales police and the met have finished their trials now, but in the meantime both forces are facing legal action from privacy campaigners over their use of facial recognition surveillance. one of my concerns, i don't know how you feel about this... london assembly member baroness jennyjones has strongly backed the legal challenge and has had personal experience of the issue. the police national database has all sorts of people like me, and you do not have to have committed a crime, not even be arrested to be on that database. that suggests to me that it is an extremely flawed way of trying to keep track of people, and once you are in it and once that information is on there, you have to request that it should come off, which is what i did finally. but you have to know that it's on there. if you don't know it's
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on there you can't get it removed, because you can't make the request. and that means that there would be all sorts of false positives on the system. so for me this is a very foolish move. and what is even worse is that it is so inaccurate that on previous trials it has been 2% accurate, that means 98% inaccurate. so the policejudgement at times is very poor, and i can sort of see why they think this might be a good thing to do, but actually it is disastrous, and the sooner they listen to people who are saying "you've got to, if not stop completely, at least row back a bit, have a pause, and actually make sure you are using it in the right way." that was baroness jones finishing jeff's report, and jeff, facial recognition is really controversial yet the police are still going ahead with it. yes, i mean theirargument is that this isn't anything new. police officers have always had the usual suspects in the back of their mind, they're looking out for them on the street. what is different here is the speed and scale.
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so this is no longer about a police officer looking out for a few people in a hundred, this is cameras scanning hundreds and thousands of faces and comparing them instantly to databases of thousands of people. and that is what has campaigners worried. you mentioned the usual suspects, which implies police are only using previous suspects' images. but where do they get their facial data from? this is the other controversial bit — a lot of police forces are using the police national data base. this is a stash of millions of images police have accumulated over the years. there are controversies over how they have accumulated it, whether that database should still exist, and controversies about who is on it, some of these are people who have been arrested but cleared of any offence. another problem we hear about with artificial intelligence is the problem of bias in the training data, where a lot of ai is trained on white men, and so it's not as good at recognising the more diverse range of people that exist in the world. are the police aware of any biases in the training data and what are they doing about it? as part of this investigation we have found that police have
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on several occasions had golden opportunities to check how well the software and systems deal with black and minority ethnic faces, and on each occasion they have failed to investigate that. the problem there is that there are already problems with power police deal with these communities in terms of stop—and—search, if that rolls into facial recognition there is another point of controversy brewing for police in the future with this technology. thank you for these reports and if you have any views on this subject, which i'm sure you will, get in touch with us on facebook or twitter. that is it for this week, thank you forjoining us. we will see you soon. 0h oh no ohnoi oh no i hugged uncle frank
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sunnier and warmer across many parts of the country and a couple of weather watcher pictures first of all showing the sunshine and very limited convection today. it stayed fine and dry and you can see how much the cloud bubbled up on the early satellite picture, not much at all. we had more cloud coming into northern ireland that has been thin and high cloud and some pushing into scotland overnight and thick enough in the far north of scotland to bring a few spots of rain, otherwise it will be dry and for most of us we will have clear skies. another chilly one, not as cold as last night for northern scotland because of the cloud and a touch of frost across east anglia. touch and go. as we look ahead into much of next week, it will be dry with lots of sunshine and as temperatures continue to rise. high pressure brings a change in the weather compared to last week. that high pressure will dominate over the week ahead.
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it's at the top of us for the start of the week and at times northern halves will be hazy from high cloud but it should not spoil the day at all with plenty of sunshine for the south and does temperatures from any part of the country continue to rise. thanks to a southerly breeze, we might get 20 degrees for parts of northern ireland and perhaps around the moray firth. warmerfor east anglia and east yorkshire. plenty of sunshine on tuesday, cloud hardly bubbling up and a breeze across the far south—east of england and temperatures not as high but those temperatures are rising in many other parts. it is probably on wednesday that we get the peak of the heat. sunnier skies pretty much across the board and one of a southerly breeze pushing the warmth across into scotland we might get 23 or 24 degrees and an easterly breeze means temperatures will not be quite so high in the south—east but still very pleasant in the sunshine.
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for the moment, it is dry. that is the high pressure, it starts to drift northwards towards scandinavia on thursday and we open the door to more of an easterly breeze and the potential by the end of the week perhaps to see some rain coming in but that easterly breeze is going to drop temperatures through thursday and friday.
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this is bbc news, i'm martine croxall. the headlines at 11:00pm: a thrilling battle for the premier league crown. manchester city triumphed with a one—point lead over liverpool. it is one of the happiest days of my life. i am so, so happy, so fulfilled, you know. this season, we played against one of the strongest opposition is the premier league has ever known, and we kept going, kept going, kept going. they continue to celebrate their back—to—back win. 11 days to go to the european elections that the conservatives admit will be difficult for them. the light aircraft that crashed onto a south wales road.

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