hello it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. in just over a week's time you are being asked to vote in the european elections, even though we're due to leave the eu. on today's programme, we've brought together representatives from all of the nine parties fielding candidates next week, who will try and persuade you to vote for them. if you are going to vote, let us know who you're voting for — and if you're not, tell us why. send us an email, victoria@bbc.co.uk whatsapp has been hacked — we'll tell you how the hackers did it and what you should do to protect yourself from this kind of cyber attack. and could it be the end of the jeremy kyle show? itv has taken it off air indefinitely, because a guest died shortly after filming. we'll talk to dee kelly, who herself appeared on the programme earlier this year.

she'll tell us about the after—care she recevied from the show. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. later on we're going to talk about the government's new campagin luanching today on cosmetic procedures — urging people to find out the risks before they get anything done. they say there's been a rise in unregulated companies offering cheaper services. it's after we did a cosmetic procedure special last month. have you had dermalfillers, botox, liposuction or a boob job? how much did you research the risks before going ahead? let me know today. first the news. whatsapp says it's found and fixed a major security flaw in the messaging service that allowed hackers to install surveillance software on devices.

facebook — which owns the company — says the attack targeted a select number of people. users are being urged to update their app. inequalities in pay and opportunities in the uk are becoming so extreme they are threatening democracy, according to the institute for fiscal studies. a new report found almost a 10—year gap in male life expectancy between the richest and poorest areas. the think tank is launching what it calls the biggest analysis of inequality in the country. the head of the national crime agency wants her budget doubled to deal with what she describes as the "staggering" threat posed by organised gangs across the uk. lynne owens says that without extra investment of nearly three—billion—pounds over three years, members of the public would "feel the consequences". the home office says it's continuing to invest in the right capabilities and law enforcement tools.

the american actor felicity huffman is facing a four—month prison sentence after pleading guilty to her part in the us university admissions scandal. at a court in boston, the desperate housewives star admitted paying $15,000 for her daughter's exam answers to be secretly corrected. in addition to the sentence, prosecutors are recommending a $20,000 fine. huffman is among 50 people to be charged in relation to the investigation. screening for a life—threatening bacterial infection affecting newborn babies is to be offered at 80 hospitals in england, wales and scotland. about one in five pregnant women carry group—b streptococcus, which can be passed onto babies and can cause pneumonia, meningitis and blood infections. the pilot will compare two tests with the current approach of testing only high risk pregnant women. unemployment fell by 65,000 to 1.3 million in the three months to march, according to officialfigures. the figures from the office for national statistics

also found that wages grew by 3.2% in the year to march, compared to 3.5% the previous month. that's the latest news so far this morning, more later. next week it's the european elections — the ones the pm said it wasn't in the country's interests to hold. are you going to vote? are you cross with the brexit paralysis and want to register that next week? do you want brexit stopped and you want to give your vote to one of the five or six parties — if you believe labour — that are promising a further referendum? maybe you're not going to vote at all. do let us know this morning — send us an email victoria@bbc.co.uk or tweet using the hastag #victorialive. this morning we have brought together the nine parties who are fielding candidates next week. murad qureshi is here from labour, daniel hannan from the conservatives, racheljohnson from change uk, alexandra phillips

from the brexit party, the greens‘ gina dowding, lib dem irina von wiese, ukip‘s freddy vachha, the snp's drew hendry and helen maryjones from the welsh nationalists plaid cymru. helen maryjones has literallyjust arrived. she is a member of the welsh assembly. everybody apart from other representatives from the snp and plaid cymru are standing next week. we have a lot of time to chat this morning, is it good that the european elections are going ahead, and what should happen with brexit? we will go in this order, gina? we are delighted to have the opportunity to talk about the kind of country we want for the future and the kind of europe we want for the future. the greens have been

consistent and clear about our position on brexit. lnp caroline lucas led the calls for a people's vote and we believe that by staying in europe we can challenge the big issues of the day, tackle climate change, start to reduce the massive inequalities in the country and protect freedom of movement. so it is good they are going ahead? you maghera absolutely. covers ukip? we should believe, it is that simple. we need to honour the result of the referendum, a referendum which would not have ta ken referendum, a referendum which would not have taken place without ukip, which would not have been won without ukip. which would not have been won withoutukip.1.3 which would not have been won without ukip. 1.3 million more withoutukip.1.3 million more people voted to leave than remain, this is a decisive verdict in the largest ever pole of its sort, there has never been a majority like that. i can't understand why we have not left 35 months later, and the mps in parliament have attacked democracy ina manner parliament have attacked democracy

in a manner which i do not know how we as in a manner which i do not know how weasa in a manner which i do not know how we as a country can recover from. and leave with no deal? if necessary. ok. hello? and leave with no deal? if necessary. 0k. hello? ithink they are a good thing. i think a funny thing happened after the referendum in 2015 -- 2016,16 thing happened after the referendum in 2015 —— 2016,16 million thing happened after the referendum in 2015 —— 2016, 16 million people voted to stay in the eu. 1 million people marched on the streets of london for a people's vote, 6 million people signed an online petition to revoke article 50. arguably we have become one of the most pro—european countries in the eu. isay most pro—european countries in the eu. i say however you voted in the referendum, leave or remain, you didn't vote for this brexit shambles. and as a consequence of the logjam created by the schisms in the logjam created by the schisms in the two main parties, change uk has arisen as an evidence—based nonpartisan broadchurch party,

taking mps from labour and the conservative party and the lib dems... conservative party and the lib dems. .. you want to stop brexit? grin and they mission going into the european parliament elections is to say put it to the people, nobody voted for this and it is fair to have another look. i will remind you to be brief, a good thing that these elections are going ahead? absurd, ridiculous, three years after we voted to leave, that we having another european election. at this stage out have thought brexit would have happened, but at the end i phil babb not fighting the election would beain babb not fighting the election would be a in battle, somebody needs to making the case for an ordered, open, and a couple brexit based on economic liberalism and global engagement. —— amicable brexit. there should be no need to send a message, it was sent injune 2016 when more people voted leave than have ever voted for anything. as you

will hear from the other parties, parties in parliament, they have openly trying to stop brexit, that is why we are asking people to vote to finish this. it is good we are fighting this election because it means we are still in the european union, where we belong. i means we are still in the european union, where we belong. lam standing for the liberal democrats, the leading voice of remain in britain, fighting to stop brexit. labour wants to keep the country together. the tory brexit is not going anywhere, it is risking the economy and jobs. we respect the referendum result which is why we are negotiating in good faith to protect workers' rights and environmental standards. in the event of an agreement not being agreed, we would ideally like a general election and, if not, a public vote. it isa

public vote. it is a national tragedy, although we are all standing for election, because we should have left by now and it is very clear that democracy in this country has been betrayed. however, we remain an eu member state, which i totally disagree with, and it is only right that people representing the 17.4 million people representing the 17.4 million people who voted to leave are represented in the european parliament and continue to make the case the eight democratic vehicle that the referendum result must be respected. it is good, scotland's place in europe should not be under threat, we should be fighting these elections. scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain in the european union, all 32 council areas voted for that, and even to compromise, scotland's government and parliament has been ignored by westminster. a vote for the snp on may 23 is a way to make it clear that scotland says no to brexit. it is good they are happening because it enables a further debate

about wales' future in europe. wales voted more narrowly to leave than england's and current opinion polls suggest that if we had that vote again the majority of the welsh people would stay. i think the second referendum is important so young people who did not have the opportunity to make their will known then... and the only remain party that can win in wales as plaid cymru, so if you are a remain voter, it isa cymru, so if you are a remain voter, it is a plaid vote for you. where is the conservative party manifesto? we did not want this to be happening. is it because it would be too humiliating to print vote for us because we have failed to deliver brexit? there reason brexit has not happened is not because of a secret tory plot to stop it, it is because all other parties with the exception of the dup have been openly trying to stop it. so what is your pitch in the euro elections? to get it to

happen. the only reason it has not happened is that we do not have the numbers in parliament. you still will not. in fairness to them, the lib dems, the snp and greens, openly at the last election, said they wa nted at the last election, said they wanted to stop brexit and consequently lost votes. labour said at the time they accepted the results but have now behaved differently, but as long as a house of commons majority says to the eu we will not leave without your permission, without a deal... you have blamed everyone apart from your own party and prime minister. we keep voting for this to happen but keeping blood. nothing to do with how your prime minister has dealt with this? i have had plenty of criticisms of theresa may, who will not be around for much longer. everyone, including her connotation is in herfinal days. the reality is that there are only two people who will be able to negotiate brexit, one isjeremy corbyn and the other

is whoever takes over from theresa may as leader of the conservative party. all talk at once the last election happened on the 3rd of may outside london in england, and the great winners were the remain parties, the liberal democrats and the greens. all of the parties that for the 2017 election, try to stop brexit, fair enough, turn around and say that brexit is not happening, blame the party in government, i don't think people wilful for that. let me read you a text from steve. i will bring you a text from steve. i will bring you and i promise, but let me read you and i promise, but let me read you this message from a photic honesty. at 6011 had voted tory all my life, that will not happen again. —— at my life, that will not happen again. -- at 61, i my life, that will not happen again. —— at 61, i had voted tory. i will vote for the pa rtet —— at 61, i had voted tory. i will vote for the partet and i have little intention of voting in a general election ever again, don't you party ‘s abject failure.

general election ever again, don't you party 's abject failure. if steve a nd you party 's abject failure. if steve and enough other people do that, that means you howjeremy corbyn handling brexit, we put the process into the hands of somebody simultaneously pro and anti—referendum, pro and anti—brexit, his main beef with the eu is that it will prevent him from pursuing the venezuelan type policies he wants to. some even will be cool with that, if you are a ex—conservative—macro, that is the likely consequence. so the bottom—line is that if you want brexit, you should vote for the brexit, you should vote for the brexit partey? brexiters that means to an end, the end it safe we more global britain. how does a vote for the brexit party lead to brexit? the establishment parties are politicking over brexit, using it as

a political football, there is no well in parliament to get it over the line. nigel has been quite clear that what he wants to see is have the brexit party become involved in domestic politics, campaign if a referendum is called, but more than anything break the deadlock of the two— party syste m. anything break the deadlock of the two—party system. nigel says he expected the brexit party win these elections, which we look on course to do, it is only right as a party representing majority of people that we have a seat at the table with these negotiations. what is so sad is the two—party system has locked us is the two—party system has locked us in, the answer is a fundamental change of political system. in time to get brexit over the line? it is an international treaty that binds us an international treaty that binds us to subjugation... can you explain

how they vote for the brexit party next week would change the numbers in westminster parliament? right now it is the only democratic vehicle the people of the uk have to say to the people of the uk have to say to the establishment we want you to deliver legs. —— to deliver brexit. this is the vehicle by which deliver legs. —— to deliver brexit. this is ' that ahicle by which deliver legs. —— to deliver brexit. this is ' that is cle by which deliver legs. —— to deliver brexit. this is ' that is the by which deliver legs. —— to deliver brexit. this is ' that is the problem. deliver legs. —— to deliver brexit. this is i that is the problem. the can say that is the problem. the vehicle is a people's vote. what was the last one, a penguins' vote? who said last time we wanted second goal if we do not win? all of the party said this is it, once—in—a—lifetime, lifetime, especially the remainers. all talk at once there is no point in nine of you speaking at once. i want to bring in one of uk candidates, freddy vachha. brexit had completely stolen your thunder? i don't much difference between our

policies. -- brexit party have com pletely policies. -- brexit party have completely stolen your thunder? there probably is not a fag paper between our policies. when you look at the average of the recent polls, let me give the audience our figures, it puts the brexit party on 30%, labour second on 24%, conservatives and lib dems on 13%, this is an average, you are in single figures. how close are you with nigel farage? not at all. -- help cross are you? not cross at all. the aggregate of ukip and the brexit party plasmid vote will probably exceed 50%, which gets shot of the second referendum nonsense which was never on the ballot paper. this is remain trickery, and

trickery by the five parties who supported it. only the brexit party and ukip are clearly here for leaving the eu. the conservatives, i'm afraid my gymnastic friend, verbally speaking, dan, all his rhetoric cannot explain how his party installed a remainer prime minister. this is outrageous in a country that voted to leave. as for labour, no one knows what they stand for, least of all labour themselves. have forth end! how did you get is here? i think that it's the only thing i will ever agree with you on. three years after the referendum we still don't know what you mean by brexit, and anybody who signs a contract brexit, and anybody who signs a co nt ra ct of brexit, and anybody who signs a contract of that level of complexity, you don't go through until you have read the small print, you haven't given us the small print. just let me finish. the brexit party and the leavers are not

explaining how leaving the eu will deal with the really big issues of the day. all talk at once freddy vachha, you lead an interim task. steel looking into the future of ukip which concluded it is not deserved to run anything and is rightly perceived incompetence. why should anybody vote for that? because we have largely fixed it. should anybody vote for that? because we have largely fixed itm is incompetent, except for on brexit? we have formulated six tests which were copied by the conservatives, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and they defined what was a qualifying brexit from a uk perspective. i can go through them if you like. don't worry. laughter the pats conservative party ma nifesto the pats conservative party manifesto included m. racheljohnson

of change uk, your party stands for a new kind of politics? is that the anti—democratic paint when you com pletely anti—democratic paint when you completely ignore the votes of 70 million people who wanted to leave the eu? not at all. -- 17 million people. so how are you taking their boats into account when you're campaigning to reverse brexit? when you know the facts on the ground you need a chance to decide whether you wa nt to need a chance to decide whether you want to go ahead. sarah williston is a change uk mp who doesn't interesting metaphor, if that is the right word, the country has elected to have an operation, three years later the theatre is not available, the surgical instruments rst and the patient is told they don't have to go through the operation but they say we have but the theatre and will do that even though we don't need it, it will make us worse. the deal on the table, as everybody agrees, since nobody, so what is democratically run in asking...m

it were not coming from the people who had taken away the surgical instruments. every one of your mps was elected to parliament on a promise to another referendum result and to deliver brexit. —— to honour the referendum result. they should stand down. listen, there isn't even a deal. don'tjust talk over people, freddy vachha. as diana was saying, the deal has not got to parliament because of the erg voting against it, it is brexited nine only. —— as dan was saying. there is no deal even to vote on, so the only thing we can do is leave without a deal, which i hope we agree would be catastrophic. when people say we knew what we were voting for back vent off this is what dan told as. this is what voters told us, they

say you are ignoring them. dan was a lead voice in the leave campaign, he said, if is would not leave, hunter has closed a factory. he says we would not think about leaving the single market, we are children we had to leave the customs union. single market, we are children we had to leave the customs unionm we are taking jobs figures since the referendum is the measure of whether it has gone more badly... we are not. all talk at once bear with me one second, irina. three years ago we did not know what brexit would turn out as, it is a com each shambles. we need to go back to the people, how is that undemocratic? are those who are ignoring the leave boaters from 2016. i promised i would come back to you. the bbc has a habit of dealing with uk's gaps, i am refreshingly honest and will admit

them straightaway, but we have never committed a monumental gaffe, as my dear rachel has connected right now, to insult 17,410,741 people. we are not stupid, we know what we are voting for, we voted to leave. all talk at once economic analysis shows the uk will lose jobs, it is bad for its economy. it affects food on the table and the clothes on peoples backs. all talk at once please do not shout over people, freddy vachha. all talk at once we were told there would be mass unemployment, there was hardly... all talk at once what the factory was saying before... all talk at once there would be mass unemployment, the opposite has

happened. all talk at once mr vachha, please. i want to ask the remain parties, those promising a further referendum, why haven't you clung together in order not to spread the remain vote? —— why haven't you come together? we tried. the election came upon us so together? we tried. the election came upon us so quickly, we had conversations with the green party in wales, plaid cymru sits with the greens in the group in the european parliament. we would have liked to have worked together, that has not been possible. all the independent websites, the pro—remain conversations in wales recommend that remain voters in wells vote for plaid because we are the only proper remain party, because goodness knows where the labour party stands. the base but the majority of welsh people voted for brexit, if you are the party of brexit, why are you not representing them? they made a decision three years

ago, there are tens of thousands... that decision has not been implemented. i did not want to leave but i thought when the referendum happened, ok, the brexiteers will have a plan, we had to get on with it. it has been a shambles. plaid cymru has said for a long time that westminster does not work for wales, it does not work at all and we need to give people another chance. question for those promising a further referendum, pad, the snp, potentially labour, the lib dems, change uk and the greens, if there we re change uk and the greens, if there were to be a second referendum, would you implemented outcome? you say of course? all talk at once hang on! all talk at once hang on! all talk at once hang on! all talk at once best of three?! we will have a clear idea of what we really mean... all talk at once you said of course we would implement the outcome?

because we will have had the national debate. change uk, you would? all talk at once we would stay members of the european union, this is the best deal for the british people. snp? we think the result of a further referendum in scotland would show the same result. we would look for scotland's voice to be heard. i think this is the only way of breaking the uk wide deadlock. plaid cymru, you would on at the second referendum? this time people would know what they were voting for. my question is why should voters trust you when you have not implemented the outcome of the first referendum? about because it was the job of the conservative government, ourjob is to speak for the people of wales. now we know what kind of deal will be on the table, i hope, at some point, and people will know what the alternative is to remaining. all talk at once please do not talk

over people. this question put to the people is an informed vote, it is a completely different question. i debated with nick clegg where he did notjust promise to accept the result, he went off on a whole spiel about how the leavers will not accept it, they will be like the japanese soldiers on islands in the 60s thinking the war is on and the rest of us will move on. it was beautiful irony. for the same people to say we know we promised it last time, but this time we really mean eight, we really will implement it. if you don't get your own way, best—of—3?! implement it. if you don't get your own way, best-of-3?! i have one more question for the remain people promising a further referendum. would it be ok for people to campaignfora third would it be ok for people to campaign for a third referendum? we had a referendum about devolution in wales in 1979 that was not successful, my party carried on campaigning, we had another referendum and it was successful, we

had a third referendum for lawmaking powers and it was overwhelmingly successful. leaving the eu would be a disaster for wales and we had to keep saying that. you would be happy with campaigning for a third referendum? i think i would be happy with sticking with the result of the second referendum, we have had three years of non—stop debate. if we leave, i think we leave and then ta ke leave, i think we leave and then take it from there. roy tweets, i have already voted, postal vote, for the brexit party, they are the only party who guaranteed to deliver on the result of the 2016 referendum. matt says i will be voting for the greens unless a tactical voting website suggests it would be more tactical to vote for another anti brexit party. nigel farage and his vile mob are more likely going to get a lot, that is why it is so important the remain vote is strong. lynn says i decided never to vote again, but with the emergence of the

brexit party, i feel it is a way to let m ps brexit party, i feel it is a way to let mps feel the wrath of the ignored. mps need a reality check. reference rick says i am a green party member, i will vote for them because the environment is the single most important issue facing society, far more important in the long run than brexit. bruce says i voted remain so conservative but it is an embarrassment the way the eu have respected us and i will now vote for the brexit party. walter says i will vote for the only true party of remain, the snp. anyone who votes for ukip or nigel farage's ego, otherwise known as the brexit party, are taking voting for christmas. one conservative party member says i will vote for the brexit party if the conservative party do not genetically change the behaviour towards the dictators of the eu. we have not heard much from the right qureshi of labour. why should

labour voters who voted to leave support labour when you're party deputy says you are a remain and reform party? we have entered into negotiations with theresa may's government where we are respecting the verdict of the referendum. the face so are you remain and reform, ora face so are you remain and reform, or a brexiteer party? the reality is the european elections aren't going to determine this at all. are you a romaine and reform party or are you a brexit party? we are trying to look out for the whole country and i think that is very important and whilst we do that we consider all the options and they consider remain and reform, as well as the possibilities of leaving with a customs agreement and a single market. so labour voters who wa nt to single market. so labour voters who want to remain should give you their support next week? well, they

certainly need to bear in mind that actually, out of all of the parties that can actually put a challenge to the government, it is only going to be labour, certainly in the london region. are you actually guaranteeing a second referendum? the ideal situation quite honestly asa the ideal situation quite honestly as a general election. no, don't... iam asking as a general election. no, don't... i am asking you about a second referendum not a general election. are you guaranteeing a second referendum? in the scenario that we haven't got an agreement with the present government and a general election hasn't come out of the house of commons, we would put it to a public road. so in other words, you are not. unfortunately, this is going to take a lot longer than we ever imagined. it has already taken three years to get where we are. don't think it is going to end when the european elections finish on the 23rd of may. i am very sad about

this but it sounds to me like a vote for labour today is a vote for leave. labour voters need to vote for the green party because the greens are the strongest uk remain party. there is another issue, it is to deal with the far right and the antics of some of the members of ukip which needs to be addressed and hasn't been and i think there is a great opportunity for labour voters... led to the electorate find out. the reason people have lost their faith out. the reason people have lost theirfaith in out. the reason people have lost their faith in politics is because you see this lotjust their faith in politics is because you see this lot just wanting to tear a strip out of each other and all the parties saying vote for me, vote for me, above and beyond doing what they are elected and paid to do, which is represented the people. and this is a failing for democracy and another point i wanted to make earlier is i am over with these crystal ball politics, people didn't know what they were voting for with brexit, because actually, when you

remain, you have no idea what you are going to be remaining inside and i would bet you that almost none of these candidates supporting remain would be able to name a single person standing right now to take the job of jean—claude juncker, the current eu commission president, the most powerful person in europe... please let's not go there. no one knows what the future holds, but at least if you are in control of your future... hang on a minute, hang on a minute. you and you keep want a no—deal brexit. what should someone do if they want to brexit but they wa nted do if they want to brexit but they wanted to be, as daniel hannan said, orderly and amiable? this whole idea again that a cliff edge, catastrophic or no deal, so on and so forth, if this had been done properly from the outset... so no deal would lead to no economic

turmoil? if she had spent that time with the eu making sure... but we are where we are. i'm so sorry, i'm just going to repeat my question, if you want brexit but you want an orderly brexit, who should you vote for? if you want brexit, you have to vote the brexit party. if you want an orderly brexit? you should still vote for the brexit party because i can tell you with absolute certainty that if the eu commission had created contingency plans, whitehall has created contingency plans, it is in nobody's interest to create a self—inflicted wound by making sure this is disorderly. these contingency plans are the type of plans that are only brought in in wartime. they are horrific. that is nonsense. leave, don't you

understand? they have never been produced in a time of peace. can i ask, is a vote for the snp in the euro elections a vote for scottish independence? a vote for the snp in these elections is a vote to say no for brexit and make it clear that scotla nd for brexit and make it clear that scotland says no to brexit. so the two are not linked? we have been very clear from the beginning two are not linked? we have been very clearfrom the beginning of two are not linked? we have been very clear from the beginning of the process , very clear from the beginning of the process, when the scottish government tried to bring a compromise deal to the uk government, to say that if brexit had to go ahead, then it had to take into account scotland's unique circumstances. they brought forward the paper about scotland was my place in europe, that was ignored completely, the scottish parliament was ignored and everybody except the conservatives voted to say we must have these things put in place. but the smp's raison d'etre is independence for scotland and brexit surely helps you with that? our priority is to avoid this catastrophic no—deal brexit a scenario just now and to get a people's vote so we can remain in

the eu. that is our priority at the moment and it is the most important economic factorfacing moment and it is the most important economic factor facing the people of scotla nd economic factor facing the people of scotland in the nearfuture. economic factor facing the people of scotland in the near future. how co mforta ble scotland in the near future. how comfortable are you campaigning alongside one of your candidates, benjamin, who said he might consider raping the jess phillips? it was and extremely ill considered remarks that has nothing to do with ukip. the remarks were made four years ago when he was a comedian. they were poorerjokes in my opinion... know, the most recent comments. the most re ce nt the most recent comments. the most recent was about a week ago and that was extremely ill considered and i think he regrets saying it. hang on a minute, please do not speak over me, how is he still a candidate for ukip? we believe that freedom of speech is something is very important. we do not agree with the methods he has used to highlight this which are, frankly, ones i wouldn't even consider. so freedom

of speech is all right when you are casually joking about rape of speech is all right when you are casuallyjoking about rape and sexual violence? i don't believe that was at all the purpose of his joke. it is very regrettable, it has nothing to do with the millions of grassroots ukip supporters from the past. is that the kind of guy you wa nt past. is that the kind of guy you want in your party? it was more than illjudged and want in your party? it was more than ill judged and any want in your party? it was more than illjudged and any party that had strong leadership and a commitment to equality and anti—misogyny would have ousted that person immediately. it is not acceptable. ukip immediately made statements distancing itself from this and steps to internally discipline the candidate. on the ukip twitter page, and it was deleted pretty swiftly, there was a about how it comment was ok to make such jokes. if there was a comment, it certainly did not come from the leader of ukip, nor did it

come from me. we distanced ourselves completely from it, it was a stupid error, a blunder. can i say something? one, ididn't error, a blunder. can i say something? one, i didn't call 17 4 million people stupid energy that accusation out in order to make people more angry than they are already, very unhelpful and stop doing that. on carl benjamin, i am supposed to be sitting on a panel with him this coming friday. as a result of that, i will probably get more abuse on twitter and people making those sorts of suggestions. if that is ok to say to bed jess phillips from carl benjamin, who is an unannounced prospective candidate for ukip, it is fair game. i have been given a 6—page police dossier of self protection. i think it is outrageous but i also think, in fact ina outrageous but i also think, in fact in a general point, it is outrageous that people who do become public figures are then treated as public

property and targets. we apologise. i will now talk to the greens. your ma nifesto i will now talk to the greens. your manifesto you say the people's vote and a remain victory can be the start of a genuine social and economic transformation this country needs. toxic, top—down politics managed with people power taking place. which i am going to suggest to you seems utterly hypocritical. you want to stop brexit because you don't like people power come you don't like people power come you don't like people power come you don't like the decision of the 17 million people. we have already had this debate. democracy is a process. three years ago, we were appointed time about brexit. we know the details, we were given disinformation, there has a lot come out about the funding of the process and illegal activities around that campaign. three years later, we certainly need to look at what are theissues certainly need to look at what are the issues now and i think most people are absolutely fed up with politics in westminster, the shambles, the way that people are behaving, so we do need a radical

transformation of our politics and thatis transformation of our politics and that is really i think what people need to see. i have been knocking on the doors in local elections, people wa nt the doors in local elections, people want change and they want fundamental change and they want leadership in the parties to deal with the issues facing us, that really affect us, that are far more important than brexit and as we know, right now, we have an ecological and the climate crisis on our hands, we have an emergency, given stark warnings. last week about the loss of biodiversity. we have got just a about the loss of biodiversity. we have gotjust a decade to deal with preventing climate breakdown, so we need to move on and we need fundamental transformation and we believe, if i canjust fundamental transformation and we believe, if i can just say, fundamental transformation and we believe, if i canjust say, that working with our partners in europe on these issues is the way. climate change doesn't know a national border, it requires international action and the good thing is this transformation of our energy system, public transport will create jobs and will be beneficial for everyone

across the board. it will reduce inequality. daniel hannan, do you accept that there are some people who want the chance to vote again on this fundamental question in our country? plainly there are, you have just heard from some of them but i just heard from some of them but i just want to associate myself with something racheljust said. rachel is an old friend and i hope all of us on is an old friend and i hope all of us on this panel can agree that it is horrible to have public figures being abused and intimidated in this way. but i don't think i am going out on a limb when i say it has got a noticeably worse in the last few years. why do you think it is? i can't say it is a cause but it has correlated with the period since the referendum and that is why when people say let's have another vote, i hope they have thought through what the impact of staring all those arguments up all over again is. when jeremy corbyn said the other day it could be a healing process, it is literally the last word you should use to describe it. you may be so desperate to overturn the results you want to go for it anyway but don't pretend it will be cost free

in terms of the driving of civility from our discourse. marion has e—mailed this, for the first time everi e—mailed this, for the first time ever i have ruined my postal vote for the eu election. i am so appalled at the behaviour of the main political parties, i voted to remain but respect the democratic vote. i cannot vote for them but i do not feel able to put my vote elsewhere. p murray e—mails i have voted in every election since 1957. i still intend to vote but i will destroy my ballot paper. i am appalled by the position all politicians have put this country in. jane e—mails i am voting lib dem. as a lifelong labour voter, that is a very ha rd a lifelong labour voter, that is a very hard thing to do, but labour have let down those of us who make up have let down those of us who make up the majority of their members and voters. we want to remain. and a couple more, sian e—mails to brexit and the ukip party is, how do you justify standing in an election for the organisation you do not believe in and want to destroy? how was your presence in the european parliament going to help anyone? by

all means stand in the uk but your presence in europe is solely destructive. would you take the salary from the european parliament? the 100,000 euros salary? do you take a salary for doing yourjob and how big is that? that is an irrelevant question. it is not to some voters. i made this point in my opening speech, if we are still members of the eu, which we are, and we had to go to brussels and be subjugated under eu law, then, oh my gosh, the 17.4 million people who don't want that need to be represented in the institution and these forthcoming elections right now, in this moment and what i'm sitting here representing, are the only democratic vehicle available to the british people to say to the political parties we want brexit. i'm going to pause because we are out of time. also in your manifesto, i notice you so you want to bring somejoy back into i notice you so you want to bring some joy back into the politics of this country. name me one where you would do that. how about a magnificent wonderful state of the public transport system across the

country? thank you all very much for your time this morning, really appreciated and i have many more m essa 9 es appreciated and i have many more messages from viewers about whether you will vote at all and who you will vote for. i will try in read some more before 11 o'clock. still to come, we are going to talk about the future of the jeremy kyle future of thejeremy kyle show. after a man — named by the sun as 63—year—old steve dymond — died a week after taking part in filming for an episode of the show. and after our cosmetic procedure special last month, today the government launches a new awareness campaign about the risks — saying there's been a worrying rise in cheap and unregulated providers. a man whose death led to itv‘s jeremy kyle show being taken off air has been named in newspapers as 63—year—old steve dymond. he died a week after taking part in a recording of the programme. according to an interview given to the sun by his former fiancee, he was on the show to take a lie

detector test about infidelity. we can speak now to dee kelly — also know to many as white dee — who appeared on the channel four show benefits street. she was on thejeremy kyle show in february. thank you very much for talking to us, dee. first of all, tell us about the kind of experience you had when it came to the pre—care and the post ca re it came to the pre—care and the post care what you had been on the show. we were on one of the one—off celebrity specials and we received, well, i personally received really good pre—care. i was in continuous contact with the researchers and the production team probably for a week before the show, where they talked through everything we'd be asked, we double checked whether they would be anything we would be uncomfortable talking about and then when we got to the studios where they filmed the

jeremy kyle show, again, we were met by researchers, the production team, the psychologists and they spoke through every step, you know, about we will go down to the studio, you will sit here, jeremy will be there, we will ask you these questions, the audience are there, and when the filming ended, again, we were sort of taken off screen and we had another meeting with the production tea m another meeting with the production team and the researchers and psychologists, just to make sure we felt ok and with how the show had gone. so you would say your experience was a good one? yes, it was a good one with thejeremy kyle show and i would like to hope, even though it was what they class as a one—off special, i would like to hope or believe that anyone else who was part of the jeremy hope or believe that anyone else who was part of thejeremy kyle show on any other day would receive the same kind of pre—care and after—care as well. how do you react to the fact