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you're watching beyond 100 days. america is not looking for war with iran. but if american interests are attacked, the us will respond. at today's meeting between the russian and us foreign ministers, this was just one of the contentious issues. there were plenty of others. between the middle east, venezuela and election meddling — it's clear there's a lot these two powers don't agree on right now. china invokes 5,000 years of battles in its trade war with the us. but donald trump insists america's farmers will win this one. also on the programme: "simple, reliable, secure." that's the whatsapp‘s slogan. but not totally secure. it's emerged some users have been under surveillance.
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0ne one of the classic eurovision winds. 0ur moscow correspondent steve rosenberg plays his way through eurovision winners. we've put in our requests — this one is katty‘s. hello, i'm katty kay in washington. christian fraser is in london. sergei lavrov and mike pompeo met today to try, as they put it, to improve relations between russia and the us. but it was pretty clear from both the foreign ministers that there are a lot of things dividing these two adversaries right now. let's run through them. 0n iran, mr lavrov said they don't agree. 0n venezuela, mr pompeo told russia to stop interfering. and on the meddling in american elections, the us secretary of state had this warning. we spoke, too, about the question of interference in our domestic affairs.
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i conveyed that there are things that russia can do to demonstrate that these types of activities are a thing of the past, and i hope that russia will take advantage of those opportunities. translation: we can discuss this topic forever, but until we have cold, hard facts on the table, we cannot have a grown—up discussion about it. the facts tell us that there is no proof of those who are trying to hype up this topic. sergey lavrov there. joining us now is kimberly marten. she's head of the political science department at barnard college at columbia university in new york. thanks very much forjoining us. how bad our relations between washington and moscow at the moment? they are pretty bad. but i think it's a hopeful sign that the two secretaries managed to get together and speak, and in addition to the conflicts, they both talked about the desire to improve relations but
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where they can. especially may be on arms control issues, on nonproliferation issues. maybe there isa glimmerof nonproliferation issues. maybe there is a glimmer of hope despite the conflict. i think a lot of viewers might watch that list of venezuela, iran, russian meddling in us elections, with some confusion because what we have been hearing for the last couple of years is that donald trump has this cosy relationship with vladimir putin. his tongue from now on the same page as some of his foreign policy team -- is as some of his foreign policy team —— is donald trump not on the same page? that is a real question to ask. secretary pompeo did become a thing we would expect any sort of regular foreign minister in a normal state to do, to highlight both the opportunities for cooperation and where the conflict issues are. and we willjust where the conflict issues are. and we will just have where the conflict issues are. and we willjust have to see whether that has an effect on how president trump speaks about things, but president trump does have a tendency to put a rosy picture on what is happening with russia. a lot of the talk is about the geopolitical issues, venezuela, iran, syria, the ukraine but there is also something
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in the background which poses a much bigger threat to the rest of the world, and that is the missiles, the nuclear missiles, then new start treaty expires in 2021. this is one thing secretary pompeo highlighted as an opportunity for forward movement, and since both countries agree that each other are now in compliance with that treaty, that's a real issue where there might be some forward progress and some hope for optimism. there is another arms—control treaty that is also possibly on the table, and that's the intermediate nuclear forces treaty. which both sides have said they are now not observing but each site has said maybe they want to to include china. that will be something interesting to watch. it's not clear if china would get out of participating in upper that would be a place for forward movement. sergey lavrov said he wanted a constructive relationship, more dialogue. with
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the mueller report out of the way, does that rebuild in the g20 at the start ofjune? is there's the potential now for a warmer relationship? there's always been a really, really warm relationship with president putin, the one thing to keep in mind is that the mueller report being out is not the end of the investigations for some there still court cases going on in both washington and new york, and so there may be further accusations that come out in the future. but it does mean that one big burden has been lifted from president trump's shortest, and so he can more openly speak with president putin in a friendly manner now. 0k, kimberly marten, things for much forjoining us. marten, things for much forjoining us. one of the big issues, iran.
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president trump denied a report in the new york times which claimed us officials were discussing a military plan to send 120,000 troops to the middle east to counter any potential escalation of iran's nuclear weapons programme. i think it's fake news, 0k? now, would i do that? absolutely. but we have not planned for that. hopefully we're not going to have to plan for that. and if we did that, we'd send a hell of a lot more troops than that. that did not sound like fake news, did it? us secretary of state mike pompeo told the news conference in sochi the united states is not looking for war with iran but vowed to keep pressuring tehran. shortly after that, iran's supreme leader ali khamenei said his country did not want war with the untied states. joining me is rana rahimpour from the bbc persian service. tell me 11 more about this statement from the ayatollah, because it seemed to come to coincide with mike pompeo just seemed to come to coincide with mike pompeojust said. itjust seemed to come to coincide with mike pompeo just said. itjust came out a few minutes ago, that iran is not looking for war but is not going to negotiate another nuclear deal, and he also said iran will continue to resist whether the us is happy with this. it
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doesn't seem they're going to budge. mike pompeo said he had shared, as we suspected, the intelligence that they have with the european foreign minister yesterday for supper seems to be some suggestion he is pointing the fingerfor to be some suggestion he is pointing the finger for these attacks in the persian gulf and in the straight of hormuz on the who —— on the yemen. how will he respond to those? he does not have full command over the rebel groups in the region. it is not like every huthi attack goes through the commanders. there had been previous attacks on by huthis. we after memory there in a roar with saudi arabia full—service think that —— we have your numberthere in full—service think that —— we have your number there in a war with saudi arabia. if the united states
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thinks iran was behind these attacks, i think they have to... give more concrete evidence. exactly. otherwise you can attack every country on —— every — — every country —— every country on theshort—term strategy for the trump and ministration seems to be... are we seeing the impacts of the squeeze amongst the uranian public? we certainly do for some every time we speak with iranians, they say that they feel the rising prices every day. and they are clearly worried about their future. but the reigning authorities are hoping that the trump presidency will be the only, they will be able to carry on with they will be able to carry on with the help of the european union. they're hoping they will carry on until 2020 and then there will be
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another president in the white house who might be more friendly towards iran. whether the reigning population are going to be squeezed, absolutely. it is that going to change iran's policy? very unlikely. rana rahimpourto change iran's policy? very unlikely. rana rahimpour to think very much indeed. —— thank you very much indeed. yesterday we are talking about larry kudlow, and today we have mike pompeo, who certainly takes a more hawkish line on russia than his boss, trying to be tough but at the same time try to keep the channels open. it does get to this conundrum, that the last two years, we have asked this question about the mystery of donald trump cozying up to let me put in and why he does it. nothing most people will assume from that, it meant by extension we had a white house that firmly towards russia —— and i think that most people would assume. i do not see that today. we saw mike pompeo study
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outlines, we do not want one outside interference. laying it out pretty clearly on the issue of election meddling for stubby got quite exercised over that, this cannot happen, we cannot have any this meddling. you've got this kind of trump's relation with prudent and admiration, it seems, and then you've got a more conventional white house attitude towards russia and, as you say, trying to navigate those two is like mike pompeo is a diplomat my guess. former ambassador to russia, probably knows a thing or two. china is adopting a new, more assertive tone in its relations with washington, dc. state tv has alluded to battles won over the course of 5,000 years, saying the country is not afraid to fight. meanwhile, president trump is sending mixed messages — on the one hand saying china has taken advantage of america for too long, on the other saying a deal will happen soon.
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he has to juggle the competing desires of sounding and acting tough on trade, while reassuring american farmers who are bearing the brunt of china's retaliatory tariffs. he tweeted. .. so who is really winning and who is really losing in this trade stand off? washington state in the north west of the country exports more to china than any other american state, so it's a good place to look for an answer. suzan delbene is a democratic congresswoman from washington state. shejoins us now. thank you very much forjoining us. when president trump says that american farmers are going to be the biggest beneficiaries of this trade war, do the farmers in washington state who export to china by that argument? are farmers are very worried. they have seen increased
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tariffs, they don't have a lot to fall back on and so this tariff war that has been taking place has had a big impact on our farmers, and that has been taking place has had a big impact on ourfarmers, and i think the biggest thing is the ongoing uncertainty. there is the tariffs and the uncertainty. how do you negotiate future deals? people are not sure if there would be increased tariffs going forward for so we increased tariffs going forward for so we know that means that folks look for other markets to find goods and so even if this is resolved, there is a big concern for our farmers about how quickly he get that market share back. presumably farmers have to plan in advance, right? you have to buy your seed, planter receipt. whatever they‘ re exporting a bidet still got to plan, growing those crops, how can they do that at the moment? it is... a good exam list cherries. our cherries have seen increased tariffs. you continue to look for cherries but if
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you are not able to export in the way you have in the past, that lowers the missing prices and herds are farmers. they need to have that market access they need to know, long—term, that that's going to be available. certainty, protectable trade policy is critically important, and this did notjust with his most recent issue on tariffs. this started at the beginning of this presidency with increased tariffs on china. our farmers have been hurting for some time and they do not have anything to fall back on. this is a critical time, notjust in our part of the country but across the country, because it is hitting many types of agricultural. congresswoman, the financial markets are probably baked in on some of this. how has it been with the farmers cosmic are they looking for new markets was mac are there alternative markets to china? —— how is it been with the farmers? are they looking for new markets?
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ourfirm is are they looking for new markets? our firm is now don't have that opportunity to find new markets —— are farmers now don't have. where are farmers now don't have. where are those markets? how do they get access? that takes a long—term commitment and they have to be out looking for that business, and again, in some businesses, they might have the resources to wait it out or go find new markets. but farmers don't. a lot of our farmers, they are smaller farmers, very focused on growing and the nuances of different years in different climates. so they have not had to worry about trying to deal with unpredictable trade policy, and so this puts us in a very difficult decision dumb acquisition. -- very difficult position. and one of the senior democrats chuck schumer saying hang tough. we have difficulties with china. there is heavenly an issue, but i think that
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this president should be using the tactics of bringing people together, letting us respond in a multilateral way, bring that multilateral pressure forward. because this is notjust a us issue in terms of pressure forward. because this is not just a us issue in terms of what is happening with technology transfers and intellectual property. we really should be working with others and our allies, and making sure that we are addressing the real issues that china has been kind of playing by and impacting many, many parts of industry and technology, but again, we need a thoughtful plan. we need to make sure that we are not impacting us farmers but also impacting us consumers, because also impacting us consumers, because a lot of these tariffs are going to be paid by hard—working american families when they are biting products at the store. and so this is having a direct impact in many ways right here at home. suzan delbene, congresswoman from
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washington state. thanks very much for joining washington state. thanks very much forjoining us. we do know that some parts of the country are more vulnerable to a trade war with china than others. if you're looking at the ten states that do the most trade with china in terms of gdp, seven of them are states that donald trump took in 2016. let's speak now to commodity trader scott shellady, who's on the cme group floor in chicago. he has forsaken us. he's to be based in london. he has gone home. remind us in london. he has gone home. remind us what you are thatjacket on the commodities floor in in chicago. we still have a family farm. we wore this jacket... still have a family farm. we wore thisjacket... my fatherworked before i did, to remain the outside world it is not vegas. we are actually performing an economic function, setting prices for animal, forgrain, forten year function, setting prices for animal, for grain, for ten year yields, function, setting prices for animal, for grain, forten yearyields, for interest rates all around. it is not a gambling haven. ajacket to kind of get some eyeballs and raise some
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questions so we can make sure everybody out there to know what we do out here. the people in new york today, saying we would not be suppressed if there is a 15% sell—off in the coming weeks. what do you say? you are looking into the crystal ball. where does this and? the markets don't like a surprise. we had a little bit of a surprise with trump's tweet about what he was going to do with the tariffs over a weekend, and those types of things kind of spook the market for some markets don't like that. i will tell you this. we have information that says that bank of america has a study or a survey about all the big fund managers out there, and the highest level of fund managers had projection on going into this sell—off. they have been out there purchasing protection in case these market would lower. that is the highest level they have had since they started doing the study. and thenif they started doing the study. and then if you look over at the spx,
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another index we trade stocks on or stock options on, we also see that of the five—year open interest on downside projection, almost none —— and almost all time high. it wasn't as if this was unexpected. i think that is what you're seen the market settle down today. markets don't like being surprise. it looks like they weren't. i don't generally speaking, you support the president's policy of getting tough on china, even if the vehicles tariffs. the president said today, yourfamily will tariffs. the president said today, your family will know this coming from formic stock, the way the us government is handling it is to give the farmers money to compensate them for their loss markets. they've given $12 billion last year. the speculation is they will give them $15 billion this year. that is a government hand—out that snacks are markedly of sort of quasi—socialist policies. it does. you would have to first have the argument about being
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paid not to plant some acres, set aside some land. there is an old saying that whether it whenever put a farmer out of business but if you back over his mailbox, that is him done. very good to see you. stay in touch, come back on the programme soon. we talked a lot about farmers, but we know it is the american companies that pay the prices of tariffs, and a pass that on in evitable he to the consumers. “— a pass that on in evitable he to the consumers. —— and they pass that on inevitably. if you look at the numbers come american families, $767 extra there paying per year because of the current tariffs. bump up those tariffs, which the president is planning to do, that triples. that is a big hike! and people will start feeling that. you want to buy a dishwasher in america, it's about $100 more because of the existing
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ta riffs $100 more because of the existing tariffs that it would have been without them. this is a consuming society. americans buy a lot of stuff and they are starting to feel the price of that. scott would've told us that tariffs are nothing when you compare to the tax the president has handed on to middle america, but still that's a squeeze on middle income families... remember the majority of that tax connection went to the wealthiest americans, not necessarily the middle—class americans who are feeling the squeeze on these tariffs. there are now enough democrats running for president to field not just one but two soccer teams — and have someone left over as a sub. a 23rd candidate entered the race today, steve bullock — the democratic governor of montana. we have schooled catty well on soccer. in this already—full field,
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bullock is trying to stand out by touting his ability to work with republicans — as the democratic governor in a traditionally republican state. so we can add him to ourfield of democrats hopefuls — a page that keeps getting more crowded. there is a dilemma for a democrat like him. do you run a campaign as a primary to trying get the ticket, inevitably meaning you're going to get pulled to the left, or do you runa get pulled to the left, or do you run a traditional election campaign that you would run in a red state?|j think that you would run in a red state?” think that is going to be the big fault line. that and the generationalfault fault line. that and the generational fault line between these candidates, where you have somebody likejoe biden, these candidates, where you have somebody like joe biden, a these candidates, where you have somebody likejoe biden, a front renter, order, who says he is running on the centre of the ticket —— a front runner. and then you have people on the left like elizabeth warren saying, no, we are going to pull the party to the left. funny you say that! you would almost think we had talked about it! meanwhile, the divisions in the democratic party are bubbling to the surface. last night, alexandria ocasio—cortez, a junior congresswoman who gets plenty of focus, was speaking on the same
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stage as bernie sanders — and it wasjoe biden‘s climate change plan that got her riled. have a listen. congress was first notified by nasa that climate change was going to threaten my life and everyone here's life to come, and they did nothing. that is too much for me. and i will be damned if the same politicians who refused to act then are going to try to come back today and say we need a middle—of—the—road approach to save our lives. that is too much for me. responding to a background briefing from one ofjoe biden‘s assistance. butjoe biden was none too happy about this characterisation when asked about it earlier in new hampshire. here's his response. i have never been middle—of—the—road on the environment, and i'd tell her to check the statement that i made and look on my record. she'll find that nobody has been more consistent about taking on the environment and the green revolution than i have.
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what i found interesting about that to me she's notjust going afterjoe biden‘s climate policies. she is putting a focus on him being of a different generation, on his age, which is a dangerous thing joe biden. that is going to be interesting going forward. to which joe biden would probably say, i am 20 points ahead in the polls. there does seem to be a split in the party between a very vocal, progressive group of which alexandra caused a cortez is a leader, and middle american democratic party voters who say they like a lot of whatjoe biden is saying —— alexandra ocasio—cortez. they like his age. delicate centrism. there is a debate about whether the people who are on twitter him on social media but the progressives... the noise they are making... it is early. at the
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moment, the people seem to be with joe biden. can wejust moment, the people seem to be with joe biden. can we just call her aoc? please! going forward. policy decision, on the programme. let's get to other news now. at least five people have died and 10 people have been injured after two seaplanes carrying tourists collided over southeastern alaska. both planes were carrying tourists from the royal princess cruise ship — one holding 11 passengers and crew, while the other had five people on board. rescue teams are searching for survivors in the george inlet where the aircraft went down. a jury in california has awarded more than $2 billion to an american couple who said the weedkiller roundup was responsible for their cancer. the jury ruled that the german pharmaceutical group bayer, who acquired the product last year as part of a $66 billion takeover of us rival monsanto, had acted negligently — failing to warn of the risks associated with the product. bayer denies the allegations and inists that roundup is safe to use. hailstones as big as golf balls have fallen across
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north carolina. residents have posted videos of the large hailstones smashing their car windscreens. the storm originated in the south, causing flooding in mississippi and louisiana, and further strong winds and rainfall are forecast for north carolina in the next 36 hours. imean i mean look at that! that is proper weather. and this is made. it's meant to be hot and sunny in the states, and it is freezing over here! are you familiar with the phrase "you're going to need a bigger boat"? i like to think this unsuspecting fisherman was sipping his coffee, gently, whiling away the time off the coast. look at that! think you have lost it, christian. salmon season coincides with the time when humpbacks are returning
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to feed for the summer. this is the whale equivalent of putting your towel on the beach. this is my fishing ground. this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news — the us attorney general opens up an investigation into the investigation. that is coming up. good evening. with clear skies across the uk and some very dry air with us at the moment, we're seeing big temperature contrasts from first thing in the morning to the afternoon. take altnaharra, highland, scotland. before the sun was up this morning, —2 celsius. the sun, though, during the day warmed things up, all the way to 22 degrees. one or two spots even higher than this across scotland. that is because our warming is just basically coming from the fact we've got clear skies overhead and a strong sunshine. but of course, tonight, we lose that again and temperatures drop away. temperatures lifting a bit by day. they're not going to be as low by night. still a chillier feel across the south, with temperatures a few degrees above freezing. that's because temperatures here, by day, not getting as high, because they've got more of a breeze coming off a rather cool sea, around the edge of the high—pressure system which is keeping things dry
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for most of us at the moment. it starts to eke away a little bit. and in doing so, western areas may see a bit more breeze tomorrow. so, temperatures not getting quite so high across parts of ireland. but for most, it's another blue sky day. later into the afternoon across the pennines, the lake district fells, southern uplands of scotland, there's a chance of a bit of cloud bubbling up, outside chance of a shower, too. but away from that, the strong sunshine remains. temperatures, a bit higher than they were through this afternoon. 2a, 25 degrees across central, northern scotland. a bit cooler still, though, across some of these eastern and southern coasts thanks to that breeze. now, more of a southeasterly breeze then developing in through thursday. notice this area of low—pressure across central europe trying to creep towards us, high—pressure trying to edge away. and in doing so, the cap that's been on the atmosphere stopping the cloud, the showers building up, starts to erode. so a greater chance of some cloud here and there. there will be some in the morning just around these coasts of northeast scotland, but a greater chance of a few showers in western scotland, maybe northern ireland into the afternoon. most will be dry, but england and wales will see more cloud develop through the day. and notice, temperatures dropping away a touch. a few spots still geting
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to around 20 degrees, most in the mid to high teens. into friday, more of an easterly breeze. generally making it feel much cooler along these eastern coasts. cloudier conditions for england and wales. greater chance of one or two showers, though most will be dry. sunnierfurther north. and when you get the sunshine, it will still feel pleasantly warm. we still got that strong sunshine overhead and temperatures still at levels they should be for the time of year. and if winds start to ease down across the south into this weekend, it may warm up just a little bit. but overall this weekend, there will be a cooler, cloudier story. nice where you've got the sunshine. best will be on western coasts. but a greater chance of a few showers, particularly on saturday. bye for now.
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this is beyond one hundred days. with me katty kay in washington. christian fraser is in london our top stories: the us and russia agree steps to rebuild their strained relationship. mike pompeo says that interference in us domestic affairs should not be repeated. in us domestic affairs hi in us domestic affairs there are things russia couli to hi there are things russia could do to demonstrate that these types of activities are a thing of the past. the us—china trade war has escalated in recent days, with both countries announcing new tariffs on each other‘s goods. coming up in the next half hour: theresa may and jeremy corbyn meet to take stock of brexit negotiations — both leaders are under pressure from their own parties. piano music plays tinkling through decades of eurovision tunes —
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one talented bbc correspondent and another, less talented. first there was the investigation. now there will be the investigation of the investigation. the us attorney general has appointed a prosecutor to look into whether the mueller probe was legitimate. it is the third such investigation. we are still waiting on a report from the inspector general. donald trump has long argued the russia investigation was a witch hunt. and now he has an attorney general who will execute his agenda. he has tapped upjohn durham, the us attorney for the district of connecticut, to look into it. iamso i am so proud of our attorney general that he is looking into it. i think it's great. i did not know about it, no. and joining us now is formerfederal prosecutorjoseph moreno. thanks for coming in, joe. how
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unusual is it for a president to launch an investigation of a special prosecutor's investigation? katty, special prosecutor investigations are unusual, off the bat, as they should be, so we are truly in uncharted territory now. by investigating the investigator, not just once but three times that we know about. we have an inspector general review, and at least two seniorjustice department officials also looking into the genesis of the russia probe. from my perspective, getting to understand the origins of why this very serious investigation began is a perfectly legitimate question. i think we let robert mueller run his investigation to the fullest extent, and there is nothing wrong with finding out how that got kick—started. the problem is, this has the possibility of devolving into a side show, where now we are getting so far from why this whole thing started, so many different people looking into it and hovering
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over this is the spectre that this white house very much wants an investigation of the investigators, which adds a political slant to this whole thing. if this could have been done succinctly and to the point, that would be great. it's now turning into a multi—year, multi—actor production. turning into a multi—year, multi-actor production. and the american public have confidence that this is not a political process that has been launched at the behest, stated or otherwise, of president trump? i hope so, and that is where william barr made it very clear in his confirmation hearing several months ago that he understood there should be an arm's length relationship between politicians and the white house and the professionals at the justice department. this sort of scenario tends to blur that relationship, and it is very much now incumbent on our attorney general to convince the american public that we can get to the bottom of this, we can do it in an objective, serious way, and not one tainted by politics. surely we all see that this is a hedge, isn't
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it? to mike investigation is coming toa it? to mike investigation is coming to a close, open a third. —— two investigations coming to a close. there is this theory that it is the democrats that colluded, not him. that is certainly a possibility, christian. it would be an u nfortu nate christian. it would be an unfortunate scenario that is what this turns into. if we have three investigations running in parallel, creeping up to the 2020 presidential election, and we go into that campaign with no resolution to any of this, that would be the most frustrating scenario. hopefully, the approach is that all three are combined and there is some sort of efficiency, some sort of coordination between the three effo rts coordination between the three efforts to get us to some kind of finality so we can move on from this issue. we know what they think of the former fbi directorjames comey, but we also know that there were dozens but we also know that there were d oze ns of but we also know that there were dozens of interactions between russians and members or hangers on within the trump campaign. if the
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fbi hadn't investigated that they would have been sleeping at the wheel. that's right. we've known for yea rs wheel. that's right. we've known for years that russia did in fact interfere with the 2016 election and did so to benefit one candidate, donald trump, over the other candidate, hillary clinton. we have known that for a long time as a fa ct. known that for a long time as a fact. we know that the trump campaign, while they perhaps didn't collude, in the vernacular that is often used, there was a lot of interaction, almost encouragement of assistance, and that toeing the line of illegality is unseemly and improper. devolving into a political issue that drags on and on is the worst possible outcome we could have here. joe, by the way, christian, is a very good former prosecutor. i have also found out he is a very good dad and has seven children under the age of 11. we are slackers! i take my hat off tojoe.
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how hejuggles all that, slackers! i take my hat off tojoe. how he juggles all that, i slackers! i take my hat off tojoe. how hejuggles all that, i have no idea. he obviously never sleeps! i think this is the nub of it, whether we can protect the institution of the department ofjustice and law enforcement officials so the american public has confidence that they are not political. what this process risk doing is eroding that confidence at a time when the attorney general himself has been criticised for being too politically close to the president. and i think thatis close to the president. and i think that is the long—term risk — what does this do to the reputation of the impartiality of the process of law enforcement in this country? well, he certainly has a different attorney general in william barr, doesn't he? different to the incumbent, that's for sure. yep. whatsapp is urging its 1.5 billion
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users to update their app after it was targeted by hackers. the company says vulnerability in its app has allowed hackers to remotely install surveillance software on mobile phones without the user knowing. whatsapp, which is owned by facebook, said the attack targeted a "select number" of users, and was orchestrated by "an advanced cyber actor". we're joined now by campbell murray, who is head of cyber security at blackberry. the slogan for whatsapp is simple, reliable, secure. it is supposed to be end encrypted, so how did the hackers get in? it was a very technical attack. we need to clear up technical attack. we need to clear up by technical attack. we need to clear up by what we mean by end—to—end encryption. it has targeted the device itself, the whatsapp software on the device. we refer to that as the end point. messages between two devices on the internet, the security of those messages is still uncompromised. it is the end point that was compromised in this attack.
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campbell, do we know who did it? there has been some speculation, and i believe that some people have claimed responsibility. a group known as mso, who are i believe associated with various government and state—sponsored attacks. that is pure speculation. 0k, campbell murray, thanks for that update. a bit of a problem on the line, thanks for joining bit of a problem on the line, thanks forjoining us. today the british parliament sat for its 300th day this session, which makes it the longest since the civil war. and yet the mp's have barely anything to debate. everything is dominated by brexit. right now, theresa may is holding a meeting with labour leaderjeremy corbyn — they are still trying to find a way to a cross—party agreement — but it's looking highly unlikely they'll find a way through. today she received a letter from 13 former tory cabinet ministers and sir graham brady, chairman of the backbench 1922 committee, urging her not to agree a deal with labour that includes a customs union. all week, labour's shadow brexit secretary — keir starmer — has been saying that any deal
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in these talks would need to be put to a fresh public vote. john mcdonnell — the shadow chancellor — says there has been no significant shift in the government's position. we tried to put party politics to one side, and that is hard to appreciate, but we have, to do what is in the best interests of the country. we believe we have compromised in some areas, but i won't go into detail. we don't think there is a deal there yet ready for us there is a deal there yet ready for us to sign up to. the big problem is, if we are going to march our troops in parliament to the top of the hill to vote for a deal and then thatis the hill to vote for a deal and then that is overturned literally in weeks, i think that would be a cataclysmic act of bad faith in politics. our uk political correspondent rob watson is in oxford tonight and joins us now. this meeting between theresa may and jeremy corbyn, the last throw of the dice in trying to get a cross—party deal? i don't think i would call it that, but it is immensely unlikely that, but it is immensely unlikely that they will come out saying, we
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have salt brexit. to revisit one of my catchphrases, the uk is in a profound political crisis. if anything, it is more profound than ever because the divisions within the parties and within the countries are more profound than ever, so i don't think they will come out saying, yes, we have cracked it. opposition parties don't help out the government. there are tremendous divisions within these parties and the idea of them doing a deal that doesn't split the party is a part is difficult. then of course, you touched on it already with the trip ofjohn mcdonnell, the opposition thinks, we could do a deal but she might not be around for much longer. in the meantime, ollie robinson has been dispatched to brussels of the chief negotiator, at a time when they are not talking about brexit and pity him, because at the same time he travels, a belgian documentary company released a clip of geva hough start —— guy for hough
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start —— guy verhofstadt. we don't know the context of that, and it may be that he was joking, maybe not. but this is going to be a red rag to a bill for brexit heres, because they never believed ollie robinson was serious about it anyway. my pet theory is that if you accept, as most people do, that brexit is not going very well, there is one theory that says the reason is one theory that says the reason is because of people like ollie robbins, the british establishment civil servants, who are basically pro remain, led by someone as hopeless as theresa may, and that is why they haven't got a deal. the other theory is because brexit is a
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really dumb idea. britain has an absolute terrible hand to play in these eu negotiations, and the entire world knows that, everyone apart from the brexit heres. —— the brexit supporters. it won't help him in the eyes of the brexit supporters. i was glad to see they came out of the cabinet meeting and said it would be wrapped up by the summer recess. i thought that was good news — and end date. i'm sure they'll stick to it. do you believe that? i do. they'll stick to it. do you believe that? ido. i they'll stick to it. do you believe that? i do. i like to think we have a timetable and we are going to stick to it. it is a clear process. let's move on. this is beyond 100 days, and coming up on the programme: presidentjimmy carter is recovering from a fall while on his way to go turkey hunting. he's doing well enough to be worried mostly about whether the state
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the british television channel itv has suspended one of its reality programmes, thejeremy kyle show, after a guest died shortly after filming. the channel has said it is conducting a review into the episode "given the seriousness of the event". our entertainment correspondent lizo mzimba reports. steve dymond, who lived in portsmouth and was in his 60s, was a guest on thejeremy kyle show who died shortly after recording an appearance on the programme. his friends fear he took his own life. the full story may not be clear until itv‘s investigation and any inquest is completed, but it has reopened the debate into the duty of care offered on shows like this. it is thought that during his appearance steve dymond took part in a lie—detector segment to try and convince his fiancee he hadn't been unfaithful. she told the sun newspaper he had failed the test and she believed the results. senior politicians are now calling
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for a closer examination of how guests are treated on tv shows like this. i think there needs to be an independent review of the way the programme exercises its duty of care to the people on it, people's lives are picked apart on television for the entertainment of others, and my concern is vulnerable people have been put in that position and, in this case, a tragedy would have seemed to have happened potentially connected to someone's appearance on the show. itv says thejeremy kyle show has a significant and detailed duty of care processes in place. so what might this all mean for the broadcaster? i don't think it hurts itv. they have a hole in the schedule, they have some very creative people there, they will come up with some new format, some new idea. it is an opportunity as much as anything, but i think they are absolutely right to take the programme off air, i think they behaved impeccably. it is not yet known when the results of the itv investigation may be made public.
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the indian election hasjust one more phase of voting to go — and the results due next week. hundreds of millions of people have been voting and this election takes six weeks from start to finish. one of the key election issues has been the divisions between india's hindu majority and the country's 172 millions muslims. the united nations says its concerned about a rise in targeted attacks against minorities, especially muslims. our south asia correspondent rajini vaidya nathan reports. these are muslims from a nomadic tribe, outcasts, treated with resentment. when they try to settle in the majority hindu town in northern india, some locals wanted to teach them a lesson so severe they would leave forever. what
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happened in this sacred hindu temple last year sent shock waves across the country. this girl was eight when she was held captive for a week, drugged, gang raped then murdered. when we found her body, it was black, her mother tells me. she had been electrocuted, hit with rocks and strangled. she was only a child. her grieving father mohammed yusuf believes his little girl was targeted because of their faith. what followed was just as shocking. eight hindu men were charged. these people took to the streets, not in support of the victim but in solidarity with those accused. two b] p solidarity with those accused. two bjp politicians were among the protesters, and it took weeks of pressure before they were forced to resign. tensions are growing in many parts of the country. one of the
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latest cases, in a north—eastern state, has left this market trader terrified. this man was brutally beaten last month. stripped of his dignity, he was force—fed pork by a hindu mob. translation:” dignity, he was force—fed pork by a hindu mob. translation: i had to eat it because i was scared they'd kill me. it was an attack on our entire faith. this community is worried, every face in this room wondering if their very existence leaves them vulnerable. the attack in this usually busy market was brazen. instead of stepping in to try and stop it, crowds filmed it on their mobile phones. india has had a long history of religious violence, with victims of all faiths. human rights organisations say that in the last five years, there has been a sharp increase in hate crimes against
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muslims, what they describe as a rising tide of islamophobia. a bjp spokesman told me the party com pletely spokesman told me the party completely rejects claims its policies have led to the rise in crimes against muslims. he said the b] p crimes against muslims. he said the bjp represent all faiths. but faith is being used as the hindu nationalist party chases a second term. ina nationalist party chases a second term. in a thinly veiled attack on illegal muslim immigrants from neighbouring bangladesh, its president, ahmed shah, tells them —— calls them termites and insects. president, ahmed shah, tells them —— calls them termites and insectsm is not just calls them termites and insectsm is notjust the leaders we have to look to but what is happening to the minds of people who are being co nsta ntly minds of people who are being constantly drip fed this sort of hatred. the right for all religions to coexist is enshrined in this country's constitution. but there is
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concern that if the bjp wins a second term, that basic secular principle could be eroded. it may be enshrined in the constitution, but at the leaders are not pushing followers to respect religious rites, then you get circumstances like that. that man being humiliated in the marketplace, that was so sad. the world's biggest music show — the eurovision song contest — kicks off shortly, with semi—finals today and thursday and the grand final on saturday night in tel aviv, israel. the bbc‘s moscow correspondent, steve rosenberg, is a eurovision superfan with an encyclopedic knowledge of the competition, and every year performs requests of eurovision songs. i spoke to him earlier from his piano at the moscow international house of music and put in a few of our favourites, katty.
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we are on the eve of another eurovision song contest. let's talk about the uk entry first. why not play is a bit of that and see if we like it? it is called bigger than us. it is something like this. not bad. i quite like that. let's face it, we've got no chance because we are the uk. if we look at the rest of the field, i know you have a slight inkling for the dutch entry, is that right? yes, my inkling means nothing, because i can play them but ican nothing, because i can play them but i can never predict the winner. i like the dutch entry this year. it is called arcade, and it goes something like this.
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delicate piano music plays very nice. that is definitely worth a flutter, i think. how much practice do you put into store these in your mind? you have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the songs. christian, some people might see this as a talent, others may describe it as a serious medical condition. the fact that i can play every winning eurovision song there has ever been since 1956. they have edged their way into my brain over the years, far too deep now for doctors to do anything about it. but i love the eurovision song contest. have you learned all the songs for this year? no, not all of them. there are more than 40, more than 40
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countries taking part, so i wouldn't have time to do anything else if i sat down to learn all the songs, but there are ones that stand out that i like, sit down and try to learn. the uk has won like five times, but not since 1997, i think. very good, uk has won like five times, but not since 1997, ithink. very good, love shines a light. you probably had that written down on a piece of paper expect we have chosen our favourites. i like brotherhood of man, save all your kisses for me — can you play that? yes, i uk win in 1976.
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brilliant. i can't see you, christian, but i imagine you were dancing. i watch the video this morning and i was amazed. imagine how much they put into the set design and dancing now, and you had four people back in 1976 doing a bit of this — a man running for a bus. i asked katty, but she can't be here, and she says the first one she can remember is 1974, when she was ten yea rs remember is 1974, when she was ten years old. do you know what it was? it was aber, waterloo, one of the classic eurovision winds. -- abba.
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you will make her day. i don't think it is affliction, steve rosenberg, it is affliction, steve rosenberg, it is affliction, steve rosenberg, it is an amazing talent. thank you very much forjoining us from russia. will you be watching on saturday night? oh, is the chief rabbijewish? saturday night? oh, is the chief rabbi jewish? 0f saturday night? oh, is the chief rabbi jewish? of course saturday night? oh, is the chief rabbijewish? of course i will! saturday night? oh, is the chief rabbi jewish? of course i will! he isa man rabbi jewish? of course i will! he is a man after my own heart. the russian prime minister was meeting the secretary of state today, and he was playing the piano in the musical. i'm not sure who has the serious medical condition, you are sleeping. when you say you are not giving away any secrets, it was in 1974 and i was ten! the former us presidentjimmy carter broke his hip yesterday at his south georgia home, when he fell as he was about to set off turkey hunting.
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the 94—year—old former president is recovering. though it seems he is more concerned that he has not yet bagged his quota of wild turkeys. the season finishes tomorrow. the official statement says: "he hopes the state of georgia will allow him to roll over the unused quota to next year." i love ilovejimmy i love jimmy carter, i lovejimmy carter, such a great sense of humour. so our editor, asked me this morning to find how many turkeys you are allowed in any one season. it is three, by the way, in two months. and i am afraid i may have got a little too enthusiastic in my research. so here is fraser's wild turkey facts. did you know that wild turkeys can run, with all those feathers, at 25 miles an hour? turkeys don't have ea rs miles an hour? turkeys don't have ears like us but they can hear very well and have very good eyesight, which is probably more than we can say for which is probably more than we can sayforjimmy which is probably more than we can say forjimmy carter, who hasn't shot one in three months. and each turkey has its own defining voice, just like us, so some turkey toms,
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which are male turkeys, can be very picky about the sounds they respond to. don't we all? there has to be a eurovision song contest turkey tie—in, though i can't think for one —— can't think of one now. we will come back for that tomorrow. see you then. clear skies across the uk, and very dry airwith us clear skies across the uk, and very dry air with us at the moment, gives us dry air with us at the moment, gives us very big temperature contrasts. minus two celsius in the highlands this morning, though warming up to 22 celsius during the day. one or two spots even higher than this in scotland, because we have clear skies and sunshine. tonight, we lose that again and temperature drop away. temperatures won't be as low by night, but still a chilly feel across the south, a few degrees above freezing. there is more of a breeze coming off a cool sea around the edge of the high system which is
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keeping things dry for most at the moment. it starts to eke away a little, and in doing so, western areas may see more police tomorrow, so temperature is not getting quite so temperature is not getting quite so high across parts of ireland. for most, another blue sky day. into the afternoon, crossed the pennines, the lakeland afternoon, crossed the pennines, the la keland fells and afternoon, crossed the pennines, the lakeland fells and the southern uplands of scotland, the chance of loud and a shower or two. temperatures higher than they were through this often, 24, 20 five celsius across central and northern scotland. cooler on eastern and southern coasts thanks to the breeze. an easterly breeze developing on thursday. this low pressure a cross developing on thursday. this low pressure across central europe is trying to creep towards us, high—pressure edging away, and the cap on the atmosphere stopping the cloud and showers building up starts to erode, so a greater chance of cloud. some in the morning around the coast of north—east scotland, and a greater chance of showers in western scotland and northern ireland in the afternoon. most places will be dry, but cloud will develop through the day.
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temperatures dropping away. on friday, an easterly breeze making it feel cooler on eastern coasts. cloudy conditions for england and wales. one or two showers, most will be dry. it will be pleasantly warm, still the sunshine of a head and temperatures at levels they should be for the time of year. if winds ease in the south this weekend, it may warm up a little. it will be a cooler, cloudier story this weekend. the best sunshine will be on western coast. a greater chance of a few showers, particularly on saturday. goodbye.
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tips this is bbc news, i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at eight. one and a half billion users of whatsapp are told to update their apps urgently, after a major hack into its encrypted service. theresa may and jeremy corbyn meet to discuss brexit, after weeks of talks between their parties. growing calls for itv to scrap thejeremy kyle show, following the death of one of the guests. a man who claimed he was the victim of a paedophile network, involving senior figures at westminster, has gone on trial accused of perverting the course of justice. research by the bbc has discovered that more than two million smart metres are not working.

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