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this is bbc news. the headlines: in an unprecedented statement, iran's supreme leader has said there will be no war with the us. the pentagon says the threat level has been raised because of what it described as an escalation in activities. earlier, a british officer played down the risk from iranian—backed fighters in the region. in sri lanka, the authorities have imposed a countrywide curfew. they want to put a stop to violent attacks on muslim—owned homes and shops in areas north of the capital, colombo, in what is believed to be a reprisal for the easter bombings that killed more than 250 people. sudan's military rulers and protest leaders have agreed on a three—year transition period to ensure civilian rule. there were violent protests in the capital, khartoum, which left four people dead and dozens injured. sudan has been ruled by the council since president omar al—bashir was toppled last month.
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now on bbc news, tuesday in parliament. hello again, and welcome to tuesday in parliament. as donald trump's state visit approaches, ministers are offered advice on his itinerary. may i suggest that he starts with a training course on bullying and harassment? follows up with a science lecture on the climate emergency? and finishes off with a crash course in diplomacy? the justice secretary responds to a damning report on the probation system. i will be driven by the evidence and what works. this must not be a matter of ideology or dogmatism, but by a single—minded focus on delivering the probation system that we need. and an eating disorder charity says better nhs care is needed.
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i believe that the situation is as bad now, if not worse than it was in 2012 when averil died. all that to come and more, from the 300th sitting day of a parliament that began on 13 june, 2017, and is now the longest parliamentary session since the civil war. but first: the foreign secretary has defended donald trump's state visit to the uk and rejected labour calls to cancel it. trump is due to visit to come here in june for talks in downing street and to attend the ceremony in portsmouth to commemorate the 75th anniversary of d—day. donald trump did visit the uk last year — amid protests — and had tea with the queen and talks with theresa may. but that was a working — rather than a formal — state visit. jeremy hunt told mps that objections to next month's visit were based on what he called "ridiculous anti—americanism". the prime minister and i are
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delighted that the president of the united states will come to the uk for a state visit injune. it will be an opportunity... it will be an opportunity to celebrate our close and special relationship in areas such as trade, investment, security, defence, and venezuela. what many would say is he should not be getting a state visit at all. mr speaker, in this country, when a bully mows their way to the front of the queue, we might remonstrate in a politely british way, but we certainly don't reward that bad behaviour by inviting him back for tea. so could the government perhaps be tactful and polite in this, and say we will all be rather busy in june, especially the foreign secretary perhaps? and say it would be better to reschedule for a later date, preferably long after he's slung out? can we just deal with this ridiculous anti—americanism on the benches opposite? one millionjobs in this country depend on us inward investment. over 400,000 american troops died in the second world war, and the president is coming here
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to mark the anniversary of d—day. and we should honour that relationship, which goes far beyond differences in partisan politics. thank you, mr speaker. one of the first foreign heads of state that i remember seeing here address our parliament was shortly after i was elected in october 2015, when president xi came. this was an opportunity for us to listen to a head of state from an important partner in the economic community. would my honourable friend not agree that listening to partners and allies, particularly those with whom we share important intelligence and defence relationships, is the way diplomacy is done? my honourable friend is absolutely right. and ijust think, as we celebrate 75 years since the end of the second world war, we should remember that the freedoms
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that we enjoy in this house that we exercise on a daily basis are because america was prepared to stand by our side at a critical moment. and that eclipses all other short—term considerations. this house supports and values the relationship that we have with the american people. that does not equate to a free pass for the unacceptable behaviour of donald trump. so when the secretary of state is putting together the agenda for this state visit, may i suggest that he starts with a training course on bullying and harassment? follows up with a science lecture on the climate emergency? and finishes off with a crash course in diplomacy? can ijust point out to her that the person who is coming to this country is the head of state of the united states of america? there is no free pass for policies we happen to disagree with the trump administration on — climate change is one of them, the iran nuclear deal is another. we discuss them all of them all the time, that does not mean we shouldn't respect the office
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and respect the country. america is, remains, and will likely remain our most important ally in the world. we may not agree with everything they do or say, but this invitation is from our head of state to their head of state. we should accept that, not be condescending, and these barbed comments, driven by anti—americanism, are extremely embarrassing. i agree with my right honourable friend, and i think it's very important to recognise that even today, even under this administration, we are very open that we don't agree with them on everything. around a third of the cost of defending europe is met by american taxpayers, and we need to recognise that contribution and recognise that the security blanket the united states has provided for the world over the last 70 years or so has been absolutely fundamental to our prosperity. in areas like climate change, trade, and defending the nhs,
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we must continue to work with our european partners in the european parliament and other institutions to counter the damaging policies pursued by this trump administration. will he tell the president that these are backward steps, and not the forward—thinking step that we should be pursuing? ijust think that he needs to look at the whole picture of america's contribution to peace and security around the world. we have an enormously disruptive behaviour by states like north korea, iran, russia — america has led the charge in expelling more diplomats post—salisbury than any other country in the world. it's trying to create a peaceful accord with north korea, it's taking action against some of the activities of iran. this is immensely important — we enjoy the benefits of that security, and we shouldn't be taking it for granted. last month, mr speaker, we saw the trump administration threatening to veto a un resolution
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against the use of rape as a weapon of war, unless all references to the reproductive rights of women were removed. and even more disgracefully, we saw the un accept their demands. so can the minister of state explain why a president like that deserves the honour of a state visit? with the greatest respect to the honourable lady, who makes excellent contributions to debates in this house, i just wish that they got their priorities right. this is a party whose leader says that hamas and his brother are friends, and refuses to go to a state banquet with the president of the united states. the resolution she talked about actually passed — the united kingdom supported it. we don't agree with america
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on everything, but we do think we should show respect for their enormous contribution to world peace. the prime minister's chief brexit adviser, ollie robbins, has travelled to brussels for fresh talks. bbc four viewers will know that, according the european parliament's chief brexit negotiator, mr robbins, joked that, after brexit, he may need to apply for a belgian passport. brexiteer mps were not amused. has any foreign office official involved in the eu negotiations sought belgian citizenship, and would it be appropriate for them to do so? laughter. well, i — should ijust say very diplomatically that i was as intrigued by those media reports as he was? jeremy hunt. the government has declined to say when detailed plans for the future of probation in england and wales will be brought forward, saying only that it would be "in due course". the chief inspector of probation declared that the current system, which sees private firms monitor criminals serving community sentences, to be "irredeemably flawed". dame glenys stacy said people
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would be safer if supervision of offenders was back in public ownership. in 2014, services were part privatised, allowing firms to monitor low and medium risk offenders. labour called a debate on the issue. several mps referred to cases in their constituencies. in wrexham, my constituent was murdered by someone who was subject to the supervision of a community rehabilitation trust, which on the basis of what his own department says, was not performing adequately. that's a practical result of an experiment with no additional investment that led to human tragedy. i know he's a reasonable man, he needs to look again at the situation. the completely misguided idea of splitting the probation service into higher risk with the probation service and lower risk with the private companies that he's discussing — does he agree with me that the government were warned from the outset that that split would be disastrous?
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and yet they proceeded in any event in the teeth of all evidence? and other labour mp told the story of jacqueline wileman, who was killed by a stolen lorry driven by a man on probation. simply put, the safety of our community and our constituents have beenjeopardised. i await the results of the internal review into what more could be done to improve the probation service in the case ofjacque wileman, and what lessons can be learned. but for her brother, johnny, the impact on public safety as a result of the outsourced probation service overseen by this government is clear enough. "if the probation service had done theirjob properly," he told me, "my sister would still be alive". it's now clear that whatever the good intentions behind the transforming rehabilitation programme, partly because of the pace at which it was taken, and partly because of the intrinsic nature of probation service a social service, which is different from prison service in many ways,
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it has failed to achieve many of the otherwise laudable objectives that were set out for it. i will be driven by the evidence and what works. this must not be a matter of ideology or dogmatism, but by a single—minded focus on delivering the probation system we need. you're watching tuesday in parliament with me, david cornock. still to come — is your sofa safe? mps hearfrom the manufacturers. a teenager who starved to death in a matter of weeks was failed by every nhs organisation that should have cared for her. that was the conclusion of an investigation by the parliamentary and health service ombudsman into the death in 2012 of 19—year—old averil hart after her anorexia rapidly worsened. several recommendations were made by the ombudsman, including improved training for doctors about eating disorders, better access to specialist services and greater coordination
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between different parts of the health service. a group of mps are now trying to find out how much progress has been made. what impact has that report had on suffering from and those people treating patients with eating disorders? as yet, i would say relatively little. i know that there has been a lot of work from nhs england and other bodies in addressing the recommendations but much of that has yet to reach the public domain or impact services at a direct level. all service deliverers are aware of the report, so there is i would say heightened vigilance and focus on risk assessment processes and similar. but in terms of improving capacity resource coordination of care, those sorts of recommendations that are in the report i would say that it is negligible.
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i doubt that while there is a lot of momentum particularly on the policy side, if we look at what is happening in norfolk where averil died, i believe that the situation is as bad now if not worse than it was in 2012 when averil died. so much so that the trust providing the service there is currently only accepting referrals for individuals who are triaged as having a severe eating disorder or in need of priority treatment and i think that's worse than it was in 2012. one area that was of particular concern, he said, was the training provided to junior doctors. there should be greater scrutiny of the role of the general medical council in the coordination of this area. i appreciate that the mandate only goes so far, but i think they have a responsibility for approving curricula. and they have a responsibility for ensuring that doctors are fit for practise including on mental health conditions. so, that means that they are approving curricula,
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and therefore they're saying that those curricula are good enough to train doctors to recognise and treat mental health conditions. and yet we know that huge numbers of doctors are exiting their training unable to identify eating disorders. that means they're approving curricula and are not doing theirjob properly. the head of education for the general medical council did not agree with that, saying that it did not control medical schools. we do not have representatives of every medical disease area in approving our curricula. we depend on working through the academy and with the colleges to look at how they've devised their curricula. and we then approve it provided they take into account the information they are receiving from various stakeholders. in this context, that would include both the public and representative bodies. so, that's where our difficulty lies.
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a study in the bmg from 2018 said that medical treatment of eating disorders is less than two hours of medical school and that postgraduate training has little more with the exception of childhood and adolescent psychiatry. most of the gps felt that they didn't have adequate training. so what are you doing to remedy these situations? one of our challenges is lots of people want more in the curriculum. no one has offered to take something out. so, i think this is about understanding the balance of the shift. so the prevalence as we have heard of eating disorders is now higher than schizophrenia. so, the question would have to be for me is therefore the balance of teaching should reflect that change. it was he said a complicated problem. any solutions? yes, so as i said, we have written to medical schools so we can now go back to them. once we have heard from them all, and talk about where we think some of those changes are, we can work in partnership work in partnership with the royal college of psychiatrists and their eating disorders faculty.
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we've indicated that we would be keen to help them support that the moment of curricular content across all the colleges. ultimately, we need the colleges to accept that they are willing to allow that. colin melville. the emergency services network is a new communication system for police, fire and ambulances. it's supposed to make it easier and quicker for the emergency services in england, wales and scotland to talk to one another and respond to incidents. but the public spending watchdog, the national audit office, has been warning for years that the project is not on track. it will now cost more than £9 billion, that's £3 billion more than expected. and it will be delayed by at least three years. in the lords, a minister admitted that the project is not satisfactory, and a former metropolitan police chief said the police have no confidence in the system. the audit commission has provided an excoriating judgement in terms of this home office—run project. not only has the cost risen by 49%,
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but the project should have finished in 2019 and is hoping to finish in 2022. the audit commission have no confidence this project will be delivered, even the technical solution is not defined. and the police have no confidence. so, will the government guarantee the extra funds needed for this project, which is significant, will not be taken from the police, fire, or ambulance budgets? well, the noble lord is absolutely right to point out what the nao report says and i'm not going to sugar—coat it about cost and time overrun. what i think gives us some comfort is a new team is in place. in terms of additional costs, they should be ultimately recouped but i take the point that a reset is needed. the project needs to run to time and run to cost and that needs to be done as a matter of priority.
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one peer, labour's lord kennedy, was too fast for the chamber‘s cameras. my lords, can the noble lady tell the house who is responsible for this shambles? well, my lords, ithink there is a number of factors involved with what is not a satisfactory situation and as i said to noble lord hogan howe, i'm not going to pretend it is a satisfactory situation. ithink the... in terms of some of the technological solutions in the infrastructure, that has run mainly according to plan but there is now this testing phase which will be done incrementally which is probably the right way to do it so that if any part of it is not running as planned, then it can be changed. but i think this is a multitude of problems for which is needed a multitude of solutions.
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my lords, motorola own the current airwave communication system used by the emergency services. motorola is also a main supplier for the new system. motorola is being paid £1.11 billion to keep the existing system going beyond its contracted date and it stands to benefit even more if the project is delayed further. how did the home office get itself into a contract that rewards one of the main suppliers for delays? what the noble lord points out is correct and i know that currently a change notice is being prepared to be signed. and as i said, to reset the situation. lady williams. the swedish furniture company ikea has said it would like to stop using chemical flame retardants on products sold in the uk because of the potential dangers
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they pose to human health. the firm was giving evidence to the environmental audit committee which is investigating chemicals in everyday use. the government has held two consultations on the fire regulations for furniture, neither of which has led to a change in the law. we would like to avoid them and we would like to do that to the greatest possible extent. for example, we phased out all of one flame retardant several years ago. and we want to avoid them in all our range. as for now, we only use them for uk and ireland and perhaps a few markets as well. but for the rest of europe, and asia, and the us, we do not use any chemical flame retardants as we believe it's possible to produce safe products that are also free from harmful chemicals. do you successfully comply with the european smoulder tests without these chemical flame retardants?
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yes, we do that by being very careful in the material we choose and also the combination of materials. for example, the density of the foam and the quality of the textile we use for a combination of those. we also have developed a fire barrier which we today use in the us to comply with the us california smoulder test which improves fire safety. and by doing that, we managed to remove all chemical flame retardants for the whole us market back in 2015. so, that is something we would like to do in the uk as well. mps asked representatives of the furniture and chemical industries whether they wanted to block any change to the regulations. you sort of say that you are in favour of making progress on this but we have heard suggestions previously that it's vested interests in the industry that are responsible for the delays. so, in what sense are you actually
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pressing for change to come forward? i would like to refute that entirely as the evidence is there to show that during the whole process in 2014—16, there were very detailed responses given to all of the questions, no yes—no answers of any such. we have been pushing ahead very aggressively for those changes to create a more level playing field for the industry. flame retardants are there for one purpose only and that is fire safety. there is a standard to be met. we supplied the flame retardants and manufacturers use that in their products to make fire—safe products. you accept that your products in an older bit of furniture can make smoke more toxic? no. what i would say is that they actually can inhibit fire
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and re—tard fire growth. so therefore, if there is a fire, an accidental fire, you are given that much more time to escape. let's say in 3—4 minutes' time, an eu sofa — we talked about the smoulder tests — is there in your home for example. that's going to be an inferno compared to a uk or other sofa. that's the comparison. and that inquiry into toxic chemicals in everyday life continues. a former agriculture minister has said it's time to scrap victorian laws about to the shooting of hares and introduce new rules to protect the animals. the government estimates that 300,000 hares are shot each year. george eustice told the commons that the hare population in england and wales was under threat. hares are an iconic and much loved species famed for their boxing behaviour in match. however, their population has fallen to an estimated 800,000 today from what was thought to be around 4 million in the mid
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to late 19th century. our hare population is under increasing pressure, including from disease — including the rabbit haemorrhagic disease virus which was identified in hares injanuary this year and also from illegal hare coursing. mr eustice wants to replace the current law which dates from the 19th century, banning the sale of hare meat from march untiljuly. this 127—year—old law remains in force today. but it pre—dates the advent of refrigeration and freezer technology. it also was introduced in an era when hares were hunted predominantly for food, not shot as now for sport. as a result, the 1892 act is hopelessly out of date. it is no longer effective. it is indeed no longer even enforced. his hares preservation bill would outlaw the killing or taking of hares during breeding
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season from the beginning of march untiljuly. he was allowed to introduce the bill, but unless the government adopts his proposals, they are unlikley to become law in the near future. finally a ministerial apology in the house of lords. my lords before i start can ijust take a moment to apologise to the doorkeepers? last week i referred to them as doormen and of course they do not stand outside the doors of nightclubs. maybe they do, i hope they don't. but i just wanted to take the first opportunity to apologise to them. and so they know how very grateful we are to them. at least she didn't call them bouncers. that brings us to the end of tuesday in parliament. thank you for watching. i do hope you canjoin me again at the same time tomorrow for wednesday in parliament, including prime minister's questions. bye for now.
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temperatures got up to 22 degrees celsius and scotland. after a warmer day, for most of us a clear sky. not as chilly as recently. still cool across parts of east anglia. high pressure still firmly with us. that means we will see plenty of sunshine. a little bit of patchy cloud possible. over the pennines. the wind is not as strong over east anglia. feeling warmer and plenty of sunshine. temperatures reaching 2a degrees with the warmest weather in scotla nd degrees with the warmest weather in scotland but widely temperatures in the high tweens and low 20s. things will begin to change on a thursday.
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