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will have more showers but we will have more showers developing, some of which can be heavy and thundery. a bit warmer in england and wales when the sun comes out but much chillier in scotland and northern ireland with temperatures struggling to ii or 13 degrees. temperatures struggling to 11 or 13 degrees. dryer in northern areas overnight, still a lot of cloud, clearer spells further south, missed and patchy fog and low cloud of the north sea but temperatures typically around six or 7 degrees. fairly mild heading into sunday. we will see the cloud braking in scotland but that will lead to some heavy showers. still quite cloudy in northern ireland. more sunshine in england and wales but again some heavy and thundery showers, particularly in central parts. these are the temperatures. warmer in scotland and northern ireland, perhaps a touch warmerfor england northern ireland, perhaps a touch warmer for england and wales.
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hello this is bbc news. the headlines: the shadow brexit secretary, labour's sir keir starmer says to break the brexit impasses, the government should include a public vote in any eu withdrawal agreement. counting is under way in australia's general election, with local media suggesting victory for prime minister scott morrison's governing liberal—led conservative coalition. prince william opens up over the "pain" he suffered after the death of his mother, diana, princess of wales, in a bbc documentary about mental health. now on bbc news, why do so many rough sleepers continue to be trapped on the streets? we should get the result of the australian general election in the
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next few hours on bbc news. but 110w. . . wyre davies has following the lives of those sleeping rough in cardiff for bbc wales investigates. a familiar sight on our streets — cardiff city centre on one of the coldest nights of the year — this winter, there's a noticeable difference to the streets. this is perhaps where rough sleeping is at its most visible in wales. this is a main street in the middle of cardiff, and there are a string of tents, three or four tents huddled together, and two or three people in each one trying to keep warm. it's a bitterly cold night, and there are at least 12 tents already pitched here in the middle of queen street. over the last few years,
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rough sleeping numbers in wales have gone up dramatically. in cardiff alone, there are estimated to be over 100 people sleeping out. each has an individual story of how they have ended up on the streets. i can't go back to my flat, so i've got to do this to get a b8b. but if i can't and i've got to stay out on the street, like, i make sure i'm wrapped up warm. some, like del, have been homeless for a while. how come you're on the streets, del? i had a breakdown in my relationship about a year and a half ago. i was drinking quite heavily. it ruined everything. i lost myjob and i've got a little boy i haven't seen in a while. did you had your own place and job? yes, i was a nurse and i worked in dementia. i was working in hopkinstown.
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you had a regular life and job... as i say to everybody, you don't realise you're only one paycheque away from being homeless. how old are you? i'm a0 now. they say life begins... del is not the only one who will be sleeping out tonight and the temperature is plummeting. it's notjust tents — there are people looking out for doorways as well. so what is it like being out on the streets on nights like this? it's about 11 o'clock at night, and it's that time of the evening when many of those people who are sleeping rough are starting to bed down for the night. i've found a spot where i'm going to bed down for the next couple of hours and try and keep warm from this cold and snow.
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in reality, even i'm a bit too old for this. incredibly, life expectancy for men sleeping rough is a7. for women, it's a3. it's cold. oh, it's cold, it's cold, it's cold... my inexperience is showing. my first choice is too exposed. i have to move to find somewhere more sheltered. but it doesn't make sleeping any easier. singing it's nearly seven o'clock and it's time to get up and move on. the streets are already getting pretty busy.
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i got a couple of hours' sleep, but it was desperately cold and really uncomfortable. many of the people who do sleep here, rough, in cardiff, will be back tonight, and the question really is, what can be done to get these people off the streets? people like christina... morning. she's already up to catch the morning commuters. last night, she slept out in her tent. christina has been homeless for years. i was an 18—year—old runaway. i ended up coming down here in ‘94 and i've been homeless since. i don't really want to be living in a tent all my life in this cold weather. i'd rather be in a nice warm home with four walls, and i'd be able to get to see my son, then, when i do get housed. at the moment there's no chance of me getting to see my little man
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in the predicament i'm in. it's an endless circle, and it's a horrible circle. we have to sit out here to make our money to get what we need for our day. i smoke spice, and unfortunately i'm addicted to spice. i'm severely ill if i don't have it. others are up too, including del. it looks like it's going to start again, i think, the snow again. but, yeah, it was really, really cold after i spoke to you yesterday. the temperature dropped again, then, didn't it? so... each morning, the council outreach breakfast team offer a cup of tea and try to persuade people to take up emergency accommodation. the council says there are enough places for all rough sleepers, so why are the streets still full of tents? many claim they still feel safer sleeping rough.
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being in them hostels and that situation, people are lucky to actually wake up and have their trainers in the morning. there's probably someone in the breakfast queue fighting over who's going to have the trainers. at least i know if i wake up here, i choose the company i sleep around. this is like my house, really, and i can choose who i want in and out. one hostel facing a lot of criticism from the streets is the huggard. this winter, along with other charities, they're offering extra places. as their day centre closes, it's time to clear up. ijoin them as they let people in for the night. regulars arrive and pick up their sleeping bags or duvets. they pick a spot on the floor.
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all of a sudden, a row flares up... last chance or you'll have to go. calm down. ..but staff calm things down. after some supper, it's time to get some sleep. and during the winter months there have been an extra 20 overnight spaces here at the huggard. nobody is pretending it's anything other than emergency accommodation. there's not much more than floor space, a bit of bedding and a bit of food, but it's warm and dry, there is cctv and staff here on duty all night. officially, the doors close by 10.30, but staff don't really want to turn anyone away. people keep coming throughout the night — sometimes by ambulance, or the police. come on, then, signs of life... give me a wave. it's seven o'clock and time for people to get up. the day centre will need the room.
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the huggard insist that floor space is safer than sleeping out, but they accept it's not for everyone. people want their freedom, and sleeping in a communal environment can often be quite difficult, particularly if people have mental health problems and substance misuse issues, so it's not an ideal environment, and what we don't want to suggest is that emergency overnight accommodation is a solution to rough sleeping, because it isn't. more and more people are actually stuck in a cycle of being in emergency accommodation and out on the street, and we have to find a way of actually breaking that cycle. one way the huggard is helping to break the cycle is helping to sort out benefit claims. to direct your call to the right place, i will need to know why you are calling today. employment and support allowance. thanks. please hold, and i will put you through to an adviser as soon as possible.
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it could take a while now. yeah, i know. the system is an even bigger challenge if you don't have an address, an id or a bank account. like other rough sleepers, richard has tried to get around this by sharing a bank account, but his money has gone missing. it's taking the mick because, at the end of the day, i can't even access money. now, tonight, say, iwould have to go and fend out and... i'm living outside, at the end of the day, and it's just trying to live and survive and... what happens if you don't get that today? i'lend up begging. and it's not even about the begging, for me — i'm from cardiff, you're seeing people, and it's being judged. on the streets is where richard doesn't want to be that the benefit system, even with help, feels like just another barrier back to normal life. thank you for your time. half an hour later, it's not good news.
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they can't do anything about that money now — that money's gone. you have that with your new account. . . so i've lost my money now, have i? in terms of what esa can do for you, yes. that's bad. do you know what? i'm going back to jail. bleep! on my mother's grave, i going to do something so drastic... listen to me. the department of work and pensions insists there is help to ensure the homeless can get their benefits. he sighs there are other challenges for rough sleepers. if they want to climb the steps to secure a home, they're expected to follow the hostel staircase system, as it's called. prison leaver tod is trying to do just that. after weeks of sleeping on the floor here, he's got a little more privacy. this is where i sleep at night. can you stay in the day or do
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you have to get out during the day? no, with the pod system and the floor space system, we leave at 8.30 or 9.00 in the morning. with my pod, i'm not allowed in until 8.30 at night, so i do spend all day on the streets anyway. so you're going to try to get a room, yeah? yeah, i am going to stick it out with the pod system. i've been working with my key worker. i've got a key worker here and he's pretty good. once i can get a room and i've got somewhere i can settle, and i can be in there 2a hours a day if i like, it's my room, and i don't have to leave it at all if i don't want to. when was the last time you lived in a proper home? i've never had one. no? i left home at 15. how old are you now? i'm 35. so 20 years you've either injail or homeless? that's right, yeah. it's february and there are plenty of homeless people still on the streets. del will no longer use emergency
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shelters, but he's been out all winter and it's taking its toll. so what's happened to your hand, del? it's the cold weather. it's really sore. i don't know if i've got frostbite on my hand or something, man. i don't know what it is. i don't know. i've had it up to here, i really have. i don't want to be like this anymore. i'm just so depressed. i just don't want to be ending up dead, basically. you know what i mean? there have been an estimated 90 homeless deaths across wales over the last five years. christina is in trouble too. her tent is gone, and she says she was let down by a friend. so i haven't seen my tent full of my clothes and my bedding, all of my food and all of my money, what else was in my tent, and they let the council take it away.
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i need to get my own flat, instead of temporary accommodation where you close the door and they will still open the door behind you. i want somewhere where i close the door and no—one can open the door. my tobacco smells of rabbit, and i haven't even got a fag. get your scarves! the six nations has come to cardiff — the capital city is in the public spotlight. tents have begun to disappear, as the council finds places for some. others havejust changed pitch, likejustin. i don't want to be in a hostel, so if i've got to sleep in a tent for three years before they come and say, listen, we've got you a flat, i'll sleep in a tent for three years. but forjustin to get his flat, he's supposed to follow
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the staircase system — that means engaging with the council, going through various hostel accommodation before he's ready to rent a permanent home. the problem is that too many homeless rough sleepers have been on the merry—go—round of hostels and short—term accommodation before. it hasn't worked out and they end up back on the streets. but there is an alternative method that's been used in other countries — it's called housing first. rough sleepers are given a permanent flat first. there are no personal conditions such as giving up drugs or alcohol, but there is indefinite, intensive support. they have actually 81 apartments, and the apartments look like this. juha kaakinen is a leading expert on housing first. in finland, he was the driving force in making it the solution for
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street homelessness. when you have shelters and hostels as the main option to answer homelessness, you are not solving it — you have a constant need for more temporary accommodation and it's not really the way to solve the issue. so we decided that we have to rethink everything and we have, really, to change the system. the results are dramatic — old hostels have been converted into flats, and temporary beds in helsinki have dropped from 600 to just 52. rough sleeping itself has been virtually eliminated. what about del, who wanted off the streets but wouldn't go into night shelters? there has been a breakthrough. hello. how are you doing, mate? not too bad. good to see you again. how are you? are you all right?
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this is your place here? yeah, yeah, yeah. the council have allowed del to skip a couple of steps on the hostel staircase system, and rent a room in one of their residential blocks. yeah, it's good, man. it's nice, it's cosy, it's warm, it's got heating and everything, so... cos you've been out of the system for, i don't know, a couple of years now? yeah. do you feel like you're in a bit of a limbo? yeah, i am in a bit ofa limbo, but i've got it set in my mind what i want to do, and i've got to do it, cos i've got a son and i've got to do it for that as well. i have got a life behind this, which i want back. i am fortunate that i got it, do you know what i mean? there should be more places like this for people. del has a support worker as well but the room is still only temporary. the argument is that housing first would give del a better chance, but is it something we can afford to offer every rough sleeper in wales?
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a recent study in liverpool suggested the council there could make savings of over £4 million if it switched its system to housing first. and research shows that where it's been introduced, it can save up to 15,000 euros per head, as well as getting people off the street. it's now march, and across cardiff there are still tents and rough sleepers. but behind the museum, justin and his friends have been told they are about to be evicted. the council says there are public health concerns. justin's hoping to stay if he can tidy up. when the council arrive, it's clear they'll all have to go. everyone here has been offered temporary accommodation, but it's not what they want.
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basically they're putting three people in a shared flat — you're in with two people you don't even know and they can just rifle through your stuff. so you don't want that? so i won't buy into all that, and hostels... for the council workers, there are health hazards like used needles. i think it was still in the glove. that's my thumb, there. now we've got to go to casualty. cardiff council says that people will be evicted if they continually refused to engage. tents have given the homeless a false sense of security, and there have been many near deaths.
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forformer nurse del, it's a case of sit and wait as he engages with the existing system. his luck is holding. good news today — this friday we're moving into full—time accommodation. it's going to be a massive difference. won't have to leave during the day, from the 9.00—9.00 situation at the moment. won't to have to do that, now, anymore. we can stay, have a lie—in in the morning, and have our own flat, our own key, come and go as we please. but others we've met feel like they're stuck in limbo. you know, the pod space is literally supposed to be a temporary thing. you know, temporary to me... it's ridiculous. it's, what, four months? i don't understand how i'm supposed to move forward. i don't understand how these people are helping me move forward. 12 hours a day, i have to walk the streets, and it's messing with my physical
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and my mental health. with time on his hands, habits that tod had under control in prison are getting out of control. i've ended up firing into the spice. i've ended up smoking this spice stuff. it's still the same. i'm still out on the streets. i'm still in and out of the floor space, and it's wet out here. i'm going to borrow a pair of scissors to chop my hair off later. so i'm going to chop the spider out of there. he's got his own little burrow in there somewhere. i can feel it moving now and again. i think there's a spider in there somwhere. no nits or nothing — it feels too heavy to be that. but you can literally feel this thing moving, like a spider. i know...
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over the years, christina's had a lot of help but not housing first. housing first has been on the agenda in wales for years, and several pilot projects have been run successfully, but it isn't policy. i caught up with minister juliejames at a housing conference. the present situation is not fit for purpose, and we need to rejig the system so we don't see people sleeping rough on the streets of cardiff. i think emotionally housing first sounds right, but it's important to make sure we have all the practical details right, and i don't want to be promising things to people as a golden rainbow and then find we cannot deliver them. it's april and the council outreach team are on the
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morning breakfast run. there are still plenty of people sleeping out. but for del it's a big day. this is your licence agreement. you officially move in. then it's your keys. these are yours now. down here. it's the first proper home he's had for years. a long—term tenancy. but it still only temporary. bit of a blank canvas. i'll show you around. bathroom, big bath, shower... how important is it to you to get your own place? you would not believe it, i'm so happy. you look it! been a long time waiting. same with my little boy — maybe now i can see about getting some access to him as well. this is going to be massive.
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and tod has also managed to negotiate the staircase system — he has his own room at the huggard hostel. it's been about ten days now. things are coming together. i feel a lot better in myself. i'm very institutionalised, just through the lifestyle i've led and the length of time i've spent in and out of prison. i find it hard to cope with day—to—day things, to be honest with you. it's time to change. it's may, summertime. as the weather improves, stories on the homeless have fallen down the headlines. but the tents are still here, just not on the streets. over the months we filmed, i've met people struggling to turn their lives around. but nobody we've spoken to can promise that next winter we won't see more tents back
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on our streets. it simply makes me sad that when i go to a new city, i'm not looking for the tourist attractions, nice buildings, i always see the people sleeping on the streets and it makes me sad because we are living in a modern, civilised, western world. and do you think it is solvable? it's completely solvable, yes. five months on, has anything changed for those we met on the streets of cardiff? everyone has to do the cycle before you get housed — it doesn't matter which bubble or background you come from, you have to go through the circle to get a home, no matter who you are. look at me now. massive difference.
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this place has helped a lot for me. from when i was out on the streets, sitting down, to sitting down on a sofa in my own flat, it's a massive difference. the spice, the temptation was too much. i smoked it and my head went. i have no recollection of my actions. next step for me now is... cheers, bye.
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good afternoon. it is a much colder day today across scotland and northern ireland with a lot of thick cloud and outbreaks of rain continuing. across england and wales, we start to see cloud breaking up more with sunshine coming through. that will probably trigger more showers, which could potentially be heavy and thundery and slow—moving with not much wind. warmer than yesterday but temperatures in scotland and northern ireland struggling 11 to 13 celsius, and cloud around here overnight becoming drier. england and wales, cloud leading to patchy mist and fog with low cloud coming in of the north sea in most places dry with typical temperatures seven up dry with typical temperatures seven up to nine celsius. into sunday, staying cloudy across northern ireland and largely dry. we should get sunshine arriving in scotland,
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mist and fog lifting in england and wales with sunny spells developing and triggering showers. slow—moving, heavy, thundery downpours mainly across the spine of the uk and maybe hail as well. these are the temperatures, warmerfor hail as well. these are the temperatures, warmer for scotland and northern ireland with temperatures a degree or so higher than today for england and wales. more heavy showers to come on monday and tuesday and wednesday looks like it should turn dry but rain returns later on in the week.
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this is bbc news — i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 2pm. the shadow brexit secretary, labour's sir keir starmer, says to break the brexit impasse, the government should include a public vote in any eu withdrawal agreement. australia decides — counting is under way in the country's general election, with early result suggesting a good night for prime minister scott morrison's governing liberal—led conservative coalition. prince william opens up over the pain he suffered after the death of his mother, diana, in a bbc documentary about mental health. i think when you are bereaved, you feel like pain like no other
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