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as the rain starts in downing street this evening let's get a look at the weather. the hello, good evening. the weather is looking more unsettled as we head into the bank holiday weekend. we had some warm sunshine today, best of it for the eastern side of the uk, the more cloud has been coming in from the atlantic, producing a few showers. some of those still around actually at the moment, across southern parts of england and wales will fade away overnight. we will see the rain across northern scotland or so moving through, so a lot of dry weather overnight. some clear spells across northern areas in particular and here we're going to find temperatures around six or 7 degrees, pretty mild elsewhere. we've got cloud though coming in from the atlantic into northern ireland, that's going to bring with it a little rain and drizzle fairly quickly in the morning, through the day that is going to set and across scotland as the cloud thickens, few spots of rain in the northwest of england, cloud tending to increase
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across england and wales but we will hang onto the sunshine and the warmth in the south—east, there could be one or two showers mind you, 22 degrees, much cooler beneath that cloud of rain in the north and getting cooler on sunday and monday. this is bbc world news, now time for a special edition of the bbc‘s brexitcast on the day theresa may set a date for her departure, with adam fleming and katya adler in brussels, and chris mason and laura kuenssberg in westminster. brexit means brexit. the process which i can only describe as a dog's brexit. what does brexit mean? hello, westminster. the next adam
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and brussels. what a day. big day, enormous day. they've been talking for months about the crushing inevitability of theresa may having to go at some point, today it is happening. and for any country, the day when their political leaders says they are stepping down is a huge moment, you forget about brexit, perish the thought, forget about brexit, we will now have by the end ofjuly, someone else in charge of running the country, making the decisions that affect all of our lives and all sorts of ways and when you came this morning at downing street, it was quite a moment. i will shortly leave the job thatis moment. i will shortly leave the job that is been the honour of my life to hold. the second female prime minister, but certainly not the last. i do so with no ill will, but with enormous and enduring gratitude
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to have had the opportunity to serve the country i love! the power she turns around and walks away, that is the main part, these usually human moment. absolutely that's the part where she shows, for many people that she is real and has real feeling. in funny way, it shows what's happened in the past couple of weeks, despite all the hard work and everything, the wrangling, the wrangling, the fighting the persistence, in the end, theresa may was overwhelmed by the challenge. but she was overwhelmed emotionally today, of course, as a human being, you would be. and, that is really what has happened. she has been overwhelmed by people in parliament not wanting to really give up their own pet unicorn, overwhelmed by the division and her party and the complexity of the project and the
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problems and mistakes that she made along the way that go up. we were saying the other day that she had made things worse and that speech that she gave that felt like an eternity ago. and that set in change in the events that led to today and for a while that is been a inevitability that this was going to come, but we didn't think it was this eminent, did they think you have been after the european election results are later than that in earlyjune? election results are later than that in early june? revisiting election results are later than that in earlyjune? revisiting president trump? but no, the moment has come. and ina trump? but no, the moment has come. and in a funny way, in the end, it's actually a really quick and brutal fashion, it suddenly comes and that really is what happened in the period of 72 hours. the men in grey suits, yeah, they were apparently lots of suits. there are backbenchers that had enough, they we re backbenchers that had enough, they
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were going to force her out and she tried to carry on, but the real thing that changed is since we are last chatting on tuesday night was the cabinets. and you can't go on them, however determined to resolute you are, and we have told them lots of times about i what point does being resolute become stubborn and become being actually deluded night of touch with reality. such a contrast though, when she was so overwhelmed that she turned around and sort of fled back into number ten, but it contrasted david cameron when he came out and gave this, after this vote that was devastating to the country, devastating like from an impact, some happy and some sad but it was a massive moment for the country and then he was offered this sombre grace. adam is going to make the pendants point. on the day
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of the referendum when cameron came out with sam by his side, his voice cracked on the exact same point of his departure speech when he talks about the honour was to serve the country. right, it was actually several will weeks later that he was, much earlier, still in your mind. that was the day he and i were dressed exactly the same. exactly the same! that is why it sticks in my mind. you like and i'll always rememberfinding that on my mind. you like and i'll always remember finding that on the tape. we we re remember finding that on the tape. we were in the edit and section, we like to tear down the fourth wall of the press, we find on the tape, look, he is humming and off i go, well done me. i'm going to go
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surfing and we were struck shall i say. i think the point that you make of the different personalities and the lack of likelihood, to put it mildly, that theresa may would do that in any circumstance, either now oi’ that in any circumstance, either now or later kind of stands... what you have said often, both of you is that however much criticism theresa may has come under and in the eu as well, you have always said that she is someone who passionately loves her party and passionately loves her country, the whole of the union and thatis country, the whole of the union and that is something that i think you could not miss today. whether it was a mistake or not to cry or people analyse from all sorts of angles. and also they will, unfortunately,
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andi and also they will, unfortunately, and i recommend to everyone going on about female politicians, hopefully showing their emotions where his mailed would never do such a thing, it's really annoying and a total double standard. how did you feel when theresa may's husband took her hand and told her to resign. the real controversy about that to be, why the papers splashed with that saying something like tell her, it is something widely known that she sees her husband as her closest political adviser as an equal. so i think what he was meaning was that he is the only person that you listen to, and not like get back indoors, love stop by before we go any further, about the timeline, because our belle isle things flashing around talking about theresa may standing down end and a
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couple of weeks. and that is her turning in her resignation as the leader of the conservative party and she carries on a prime ministerfor the best part of two months after that by the contest runs its course until the 20 something ofjuly and then we get the point of which parliament rises. so that means two more eu sums to come to. the june end of term summits. we will see her twice. i don't think should do the doorstep on the red carpet because you know she hated doing them anyway. what do you mean? because you fired yourself, you would one do that, would you ? you fired yourself, you would one do that, would you? barely had she walked back into number ten and then the reaction started to come in across europe and largely on twitter, and there was a lot of respect, the work respect was used over and over respect, the work respect was used overand overagain by
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respect, the work respect was used over and over again by the prime ministers we had that from angela merkel, the dutch prime minister, no regret, no one expressed any regret, that you could say it's not the place to do so, there was no warmth between these eu leaders in her, they never once built up a rapport, so they never once built up a rapport, so that may have brought it home, so respect, yes, the lack of regret also comes in the fact that a lot of negativity is now associated with theresa may and these painful negotiations finally signing off on a compromise deal in the coming back for more changes despite the fact that eu leaders always thought that she put her party and in particular, the hardliner for a party above, she put her party and in particular, the hardlinerfora party above, in their opinion, the good of a country and above actually doing a deal and either moving forward with brexit or tinkering brexit or whatever, it just reminded me again today, not
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because she cried, it'sjust the show of emotion reminded me of the fa ct show of emotion reminded me of the fact that after the referendum and before theresa may became prime minister, all of my contact in eu, who they want and who they don't wa nt who they want and who they don't want this prime minister, it actually doesn't really matter because the most important thing is, the decision that the ecs is very negative that's been made is the uk leaving the eu, they need a prime minister strong enough to do a deal and brussels and send it back home and brussels and send it back home and theresa may never was that prime ministerand and theresa may never was that prime minister and that then goes part of the way to answer the question that adam andl the way to answer the question that adam and i have been hearing all day which is, what with the eu make of borisjohnson as prime minister and what other eu hoping for next prime minister, it's less about personality and more about the power that they will have at home. and that they will have at home. and that will be something that will be talked over the next 2a hours here, people inevitably and not necessarily completely sincerely at
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home, try to express how much they've always loved her and people who sat around the cabinet, actually somebody found that theresa may was the best person they could ever have imagined in the world. my neck some people manage to did they come the handbrake. some of the colonists and the times in the np once upon time expressed a different opinion tears and tear should be brushed aside and acquainting the transport man during the second world war, in favour of compromise, he was not about compromise, he was not about compromise, he was about courage. we have a rather bad habit in britain, once somebody who has failed goes of rigging our hands and saying how sorry we feel about it, i am pleased that she is gone. she could not do
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the job and must've left much earlier. trying to compromise the labour party and she was trying to compromise with their own party but you know, he is not the only person thinks that she was the wrong person in the wrong job. there was some snorting about the word compromise, they said what compromise? she compromised far too late and insincerely, and that is the feeling that right at the last moment, you can see that she really was trying to offer everything to everybody but we are talking about really at the la st we are talking about really at the last moment. the thing that, put it this way, that came under some criticism on the side of the channel as well. when she saw the compromise of what was needed for compromise and black—and—white which was the d raft and black—and—white which was the draft and it involved may be of full on, and the second thing even though she said she did not wanted and
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probably never was going to happen, but a route to another referendum, written down and black—and—white and a government document is finally what did it for her. doubt the end. that might‘ve been the thing that does ministers in the cabinet but i've been sitting on their hands throughout the chaos that the past few months, if i have my name attached to something like that, that could be a bit tricky to a leadership contest. the point to make from the whole issue of compromise, in fact come much sooner, then the whole question about her leadership would have also come much sooner. about her leadership would have also come much sooner. and that, i suppose, is a rational reason to put off compromise if you think it is going to mean... i know, we have been around and around this, but the interesting thing is what happens now to the next person in the brutality of politics now, it is already really about who is coming
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next and i just already really about who is coming next and ijust had a message from someone next and ijust had a message from someone who is a supporter, not officially declared yet, but there will be more coming out and i must say, because we are all friends here really, not just us say, because we are all friends here really, notjust us but our lovely listeners, there are two people at least two, one of the cabinet not in the cabinet want to be the next prime minister who are brexit casters. they said they will come on, let's put the dog went down and i should never clap near a microphone, that is bad behaviour, not professional. the presenters, to make any prime ministers who want to come in, make sure you bring your sponges. will get the hauntings, or the hunted. will get questions from
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brexit casters. and i have one as well who may be different from what of your two and they suggested that this person suggested that they would be quite keen on coming on. and our role in the our unwritten rule in the uk, it's the listeners choice. far be it for me to suggest that if you are a tory leadership candidate you do not come on brexit cast, perhaps your knowledge of the withdrawal agreement in the process is not as good as others. i would never suggest about the case anyone but that is second—guessing people. we will have the receipt of the memorial quiz. exactly. i have apologised them about that though. not for the harshness of the quiz, just the name of it. might the fleming test. how many people are
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running now genuinely? 0r fleming test. how many people are running now genuinely? or do we have to wait a little while to know was what he was excited about a direct service to friday, the constituency, the foreign secretary talking about all things domestic and then rolled up all things domestic and then rolled up at the festival and told the newspaper that he is in the running, he isa newspaper that he is in the running, he is a definite declared, there are a lot of people talking about how they're seriously considering etc etc without saying yes, but he is definitely declared stuart,, boris johnson who was at switzerland for a conference and interesting in his language, talking about, and swiss german. i was joking! .
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language, talking about, and swiss german. iwasjoking! . it is not by the english,. what he had to say was in english, thankfully from my language limited brain. but straight back on the table, the idea of no deal. so addressing those who think it was a big mistake to ever talk about taking no deal of the table. and he got lots of people excited with the quickly by saying, were going to end at the end of october —— leave at the end of october. and the contest is who will say openly that they are willing to leave without a deal and who will say, absolutely not a chance or i would do everything in my possible power. but i think people are getting into a froth about everything that boris johnson says, he can change. i'm just going to say that diplomatically. on the east side, they are rolling back and yawning,
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thatis they are rolling back and yawning, that is a lie because they are rather fixated on the european parliamentary election and that could affect things like germany and france and otherwise, they have heard it all before. that is what i'm telling people, they will all say that it will be no deal, the law say that it will be no deal, the law say you'll be out by october, but let's wait and see, the general assumption is that the new prime minister will be asking for another extension because they will want to try to negotiate, renegotiate the brexit deal because they might want to hold a general election and the way they deal with the eu, not just with what they're saying that the leadership contest but how they deal with the eu will influence how eu leaders are to going for a longer extension, especially when you have someone extension, especially when you have someone like emmanuel macron feels like if you have an arch brexiteer and that seed, they may want to use
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dirty tactics, that was the word of one diplomat i spoke to about eu business, putting a block on the eu budget nor to put pressure and say change backstop and these are the scenarios that the eu is game planning, but frankly they have been game planning this for a long time because theresa may's demises outcome is a huge surprise. as these often tend races are often unpredictable, is there someone who we do not know very much about in terms of like matt hancock, he's going to run it looks very unlikely at the moment but not impossible. stewart the development secretary or sajid javid, you know they would know about him but how would they approach someone who they do not know very much about? ill come back toa know very much about? ill come back to a position to come with. the whole process has been very paper—based whole process has been very paper— based and explaining whole process has been very paper—based and explaining what you mean based in people sitting around a table rather than being
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second—guessed by the eu from a distance. sol second—guessed by the eu from a distance. so i think they'll probably do a big effort by the renegotiation of the withdrawal agreement and they'll at least politely listen to the first request and taken the details of the request, and think about the person and more about the position, that is of the eu operates, positions positions. deal politely open the door and listen, which they will, they will listen with their fingers in theirears they will listen with their fingers in their ears because they have already said, this is it, we are not budging. the panic will be prickling on the back of their necks again and the tea shop was talking about the possibility of a no—deal brexit under new prime minister when he will be worrying about is a prime minister who is seen to be serious about no deal in a way that theresa may was never believed here in the eu to be serious and that will split unity amongst the member states and
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whether some countries will say, may be another day, maybe this, but that will be something that they'll be worried about tonight. but i am fascinated about is whether the eu institutions will play a role in the tory leadership contest but here's my theory. we have had multiple times, second biggest regret in my entire political life is not refer to to make intervening in the referendum, allegations, yes. that he did not do more fact checking during the eu referendum and i did not do it because david cameron said i was not allowed to. some say that is in easy biggest regret to have, but exhibit b, yesterday there was a little video from the northern irish twitter account from the right hand
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man which the commission disputes and they put a big effort and to make it and denied this quote even those on a video that had 3000 followers and so i wonder if you see a leadership candidate saying something that is either wrong about the withdrawal agreement or impedes the withdrawal agreement or impedes the goals of the eu, whether the commission will find a way of saying no, you are wrong and pushing back more forcefully, exactly. and he could be fascinating, but they've got detention and they cannot seen to be interfering in domestic politics. and do not forget why they might say that but no. i am relevant, relevant. exactly. if merkel is further weakened, macron is the one saying no more extensions
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and angela merkel is saying, more extensions, more extensions, they may change their mind and even if they do not, this to be an orderly brexit it will not be as expensive, if those two are weakened, that could change the dynamic of the member states. on the subject of destroying the walls of broadcasting while talking to the radio for six o'clock news, a former bulletin of record where the person is out and about. the runners and the, i was not even going to say that. anyway, where was i? i was talking about the renaissance writers and i did contemplate saying, there is a piece by cornelius and a correspondent was like display that, the muzzle be
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reading out the conservative telephone directory. a list of names. so we will be wearing cocktail dresses for the election night, perhaps wearing bow ties stop like that you're asking them! ilj rarely broadcasting anything else. he kind of, just a few ks ago, please watch it because it is hilarious and also very accurate. you have a marathon coming haven't you? we have a five hour radio marathon, where the times. five o'clock, 11 o'clock on midnight on the roots of this, i should say, if you have that free time on your hands, why not subscribe to a brexit based podcast. you like them on
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brexit cass, yes. you would really love that. if you do not want to listen to the radio show on sunday, then we'll have another bit of brexit cast, we will be on the telly. will be a good idea. by everyone. by everyone! good evening, i'm sure most people are looking forward to the bank holiday weekend, fortunately looks like the weather is on the turn, so to speak. some sunshine around but there will be some rain as well, it looks on the turn so to speak. we're going to find some sunshine around but there will be some rain too and again it looks like it will be more in the north and west of the uk but temperatures are going to be dropping away everywhere over the next few days. this is the clouds that's
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going to be heading our way. it is actually two weather fronts that will bring some rain over the next couple of days. we've had a few showers around today mind you, a lot of cloud coming in from off the atlantic here in st helens for example, cloudier skies. but it has been sunnier further east and we have had plenty of sunshine around the south—east of scotland and it has been a lovely day here with more cloud still across northern scotland, although most of the rain is fading away. and the showers in southern parts of england and wales will also fade away overnight. lot of dry weather around, fair bit of cloud around too and temperatures fairly mild, the lowest temperature is six or 7 degrees across the northern half of the uk. here we will find a lot more cloud and some rain and drizzle arriving. first of all, it is there across northern ireland and then the cloud thickens in the rain develops in scotland through the day. eventually, a little bit of that heading towards the north west of england. cloud will tend to increase for much of england and wales but we will keep the sunshine toward the south—east barring one or two showers. this is what the temperatures will be at their highest, this is where the temperatures will be at their highest, but quite chilly underneath that developing rain in scotland in particular. that is on the first band of cloud
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that weather front there. we've got low pressure heading towards the north—west of the uk that is going to push in this secondary weather for the cold front of course, the cooler air coming in behind it. rain can be quite heavy for a while particularly in scotland. it's going to hang around in northern scotland and quickly clearing away from northern ireland and brightening up here, a few showers coming into southern scotland and this showery rain heading down into england and wales where it could be a little bit on the heavy side and may be arriving as early as late morning was up before then, temperatures may get up to 21 degrees but there is cooler, fresher air coming in behind that. and we have a north—westerly breeze for the end of the bank holiday weekend. whilst that weather front is out of the way, we've still got low pressure across northern areas, we've got showers and longer spells of rain for scotland and northern ireland. a number of showers just pushing down into northern england and into wales. and much of southern england towards east anglia may well be as dry with a little bit of sunshine but it is nowhere near as warm. 18 degrees at best in london, 13 through the central belt of scotland.
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this is bbc world news today. i'm lewis vaughan jones. our top stories. the race is on to find a new british prime minister. it comes after theresa may announced she would step down as leader of the conservative party over her failure to deliver brexit. i do so with no ill will but with enormous and enduring gratitude to have had the opportunity to serve the country i love. praise for theresa may's work from european leaders, but the eu says her brexit deal cannot be re—negotiated. eight people have been injured in an explosion in the french city of lyon. the united states is to send an extra 1,500 troops

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