they were talking about sexual activities. it was pornographic. we'll ask these safety experts what the risks are and what parents can do hello. to protect their children online. it's thursday. it's ten o'clock. i'm joanna gosling. we discover the darker side university tuition fees to roblox, an online game played should be cut to £7,500 by nearly 3a million and maintenance grants should be people in europe a month. many of them children. re—introduced for the least well—off students. just some of the findings one parent tells us their child has a major review of the funding been groomed despite parental settings on the game for higher education in england. there are some, including the labour opposition, being switched on. who will reject this finding, because they want to can you give an idea of how graphic abolish fees altogether. such a move would be some of the messages were? 00:00:39,959 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 they were talking about rape. regressive and destructive, hurting our institutions and limiting opportunities for our young people. prince harry will open the 2019 cricket world cup this morning with hosts and tournament favourites england taking on south africa at the oval.

hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. we've had some of your comments already about the dangers of online games. gibbo on twitter: "anywhere there are kids there'll be people trying to groom them, as disgusting as that is. adding restrictions to accounts and parental controls is about all that can really be done." laura on facebook: "and why is the child playing this game away from the parents? seriously folks if we let kids go online we should be there supervising them." do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live. annita mcveigh has the news. university tuition fees in england should be cut to £7,500, according to a review which also says student loan repayments should

continue for up to a0 rather than 30 years. the government—commissioned review calls for better funding for students in vocational education. maintenance grants to support poorer students, scrapped in 2016, should also be reinstated, it says. speaking in westminster in the past hour, theresa may said she was in favour of helping students from poorer families. such a move would help support stu d e nts such a move would help support students from whatever background they are. it would be up to the government to decide at the upcoming spending review whether to follow the recommendation but my view is very clear. removing maintenance gra nts very clear. removing maintenance grants from the least well—off stu d e nts grants from the least well—off students has not worked and i believe it is time to bring them back. this programme has discovered the darker side of the online game roblox, which is played by nearly 3a million people in europe a month, many of them children. one parent told us their child has been groomed despite parental settings on the game being switched on. at least seven south korean tourists

have died and at least 19 more are missing after a boat capsized on the danube river in hungary's capital, budapest. 30 tourists and three tour guides, as well two hungarian crew members, were on the boat when it was hit by another vessel while moored. seven people have been rescued, and a massive search operation is continuing on a river swollen by heavy rainfall. the proportion of low—paid workers in britain — those on less than £8.52 per hour — has fallen to its lowest level since 1980, according to a new report. the resolution foundation, a think tank focusing on people on the lowest incomes, found that the number of low—paid workers dropped by 200,000 last year and suggested it could be eliminated altogether by 2020. israel is to hold fresh elections, after the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, failed to form a new coalition government. the september vote will be the second this year, an unprecendent event in israeli politics.

could an app tell you where the best parking space is? data on parking spaces across the uk is set to be standardised, in the hope that it will make finding and paying for parking easier. apps could potentially collate such data and allow drivers to find spaces before they leave home, reducing pollution in town centres as drivers don't have to go around looking for parking. disney has issued a statement saying it would be very difficult to do any more filming in the us state of georgia if new restrictive abortion laws come into effect. tv and film productions are responsible for tens of thousands ofjobs in the state and disney has shot a number of blockbuster movies there, including black panther and avengers endgame. climate change played a role in the deaths of thousands of puffins in alaska,

according to a study. scientists believe the birds starved to death when the fish they ate migrated north because of rising sea temperatures. the bodies of emaciated puffins began washing up on beaches on saint paul island in autumn 2016. up to 9,000 puffins and other sea birds died over the course of a few months. a pet cat that was stuck on a railway bridge for six days, sparking a major rescue operation, has walked home. five—year—old hatty got trapped on the 30 foot section of the royal albert bridge, which connects plymouth and saltash, on friday. firefighters spent hours trying to rescue her while network rail planned to close the line to help save her. i don't know if that counts as you up i don't know if that counts as you up one of her nine lives! back to you, joanna. that is definitely classic cat behaviour! with more than 90 million monthly users worldwide, the online game roblox is one of the most popular on the market for children.

butjust how safe is it? disturbingly, we've spoken to a parent who has told us their child has been groomed despite parental settings on the game being switched on. rachel stonehouse has this report. roblox has taken the online gaming world by storm. users build their own games and create their own characters with coloured blocks and it's multiplayer, meaning you can interact with other people. it's estimated there are more than 2a million playing the game in europe a month. many of those are children. how many of you like roblox? but i've discovered some people are accessing a much darker side to roblox. they were talking about rape. they were talking about sexual activities that... it was pornographic. with concerns growing about children's access to sexual content... that clearly is a big penis.

..some parents believe roblox need to take more responsibility for online safety. surely they can access it, turn it off, block it, and if not, it shouldn't be allowed. fun, outgoing. loved socialising, making friends and just loved life. sarah says her son was a happy child, until, after a difficult period of school a couple of years ago, he then started to play roblox. sarah's not her real name and we've disguised her and her son's identity for legal reasons because of what happened to him. it seemed like an innocent game. so we went on and made sure that all the privacy settings were on there, the parental blocks, to make sure that there was no messaging. but sarah and her husband began to notice a difference in their son's behaviour. it was gradual.

it was when you wanted him to go out and do things that he enjoyed. and we went into the messages and we were very, very shocked by what we found. what did you find? we found that... sorry. there was some normal typical teen stuff and then we came across pictures that were inappropriate. and at first we were shocked and didn't realise it was our son, until we noticed in the background that it was our house. it was horrifying and i was physically sick. can you give an idea of how graphic some of the messages were? they were talking about rape. they were talking about sexual activities. it was pornographic.

roblox told us they can't comment on individual cases, but are committed to protecting the online safety of children and the in—game chat has very stringent filters and any photo exchange will have been done on a third—party app. sarah's story is an extreme case, but it's made me wonder about other children who play roblox. just how easy is it for them to come across explicit content when playing the game? gamers often upload videos of gaming sessions to youtube and it's clear from just a quick search, there's a whole host of inappropriate content that's appeared on roblox and the explicit messages are being shared within the game itself. so i've just decided to go into one of the rooms, just to get a sense of what it's like. straightaway when i went in there i was approached by a character who seemed to stand right next to me. there's a conversation going on in the corner. people saying, "hey, sweetie pie." "kiss kiss kiss." and although there's

nothing really seedy, it's quite scary how so many people are trying to talk to you so quickly. and actually there's a messagejust popped up now saying, "a child for sale." "slave, work free, child slave here, find a master", which just seems quite dark, really, for a game that is aimed at children. roblox say they are relentless in shutting down inappropriate material and have 24—hour moderators. so out of 100 young people playing, how many would see rude things? our friend here said all of them. who agrees it would be all of them seeing rude things? ex police officersjohn staines and john woodley go into schools across the country warning children about the worst—case scenarios. john says parents don't realise people have ways of communicating, even if parental controls are on and chat settings are disabled.

unfortunately people they don't know are looking for the children whose parents have turned off the chat because they can get them onto a third—party app and get them to send pictures and hold verbal conversations with them. they also work with parents and teachers to help educate them, as well. with roblox, the staff's knowledge isn't as good as the children's, and the parents' knowledge isn't as good as the children's. have open discussions with children and whatever parents do, if something happens, don't take it away from them. don't ban things. don't say no. actually have discussions and say, "do you know what, let's have a look at that. let's look at the dangers" and try to get children to make decisions themselves, because if they are empowered to do that, they are working with you on being safe. people sayjust turn the chat off. it's not what you hear or read, it's what you see. that's not leaving anything to the imagination.

it's not just concerns about messaging, but also how we've spoken to have concerns, including dad, ian. what sort of things did you see on there? just straightaway there's these people, so i said to my son, "what are they doing?" he said, "i don't know. i don't know what they are doing." on this particular game, you click and it'sjust features like "lay down" or, i can't remember, was it star jumps, jump, whatever? but he said, "follow me, lay down". this other person laid on top of me, again just using features, because there's pads, and then moving it. and ijust thought, "i can't believe this!" and then, "don't go". this is what the person said as i stood up. "if you go, i'll kill myself." i can't remember how it was worded. and i thought, "what is this?" i was swearing. this is disgusting. they know it's full of kids. that's what it is. but people on there are not children, on this particular

part, weren't kids. if everyone knows and it's on youtube and on all these various other things, why has it not been deleted? so companies like roblox should take more responsibility? 100%. you know, a quick google search brings up a whole host of sinister sort of paedophile—type stuff. there's no sugar—coating it. that's what it is. ian says he contacted roblox, but never had a response. it was a gradual thing. "just show me this." sarah also says she contacted roblox. i contacted them and asked them how did this happen? why did you let this happen to my child? and they didn't respond at all. nothing at all. nothing? no. and children, they can be paid on these games, so these predators can say, "i will pay for the game to be upgraded" and then pay

for the children to do what they want them to do. roblox don't seem to be protecting the children in any way from this. in fact, they gain from it. do you feel like roblox is protecting paedophiles? they are totally protecting paedophiles because when we took it to the police, the police wanted access to the ip addresses of these people and roblox refused. they said, "no." they wouldn't let our police have anything to do with it because we were in the uk and they are an american company. the police force sarah was in contact with told us they only have the authority to investigate criminal offences which have occurred in this country and, in this case, the people contacting sarah's son were outside the uk. roblox told us players can report inappropriate behaviour using the report abuse system and users can then be suspended or have their accounts deleted. how is your son now?

he is...in a very bad way. he... he is broken. and so are we. it's... it's life destroying and i will never ever be able to take those pictures or words out of my mind. roblox point out that the third party app that sarah's son was contacted on via the game isn't affiliated or integrated with roblox. they say, "it's extremely important to be aware of these chat apps, particularly those with an overlay feature making it appear to be part of whatever game is being played." we can speak now to amanda naylor, who is barnardo's lead on child sexual abuse and we also have boris radanovic, who is an online safety officer for the uk safer internet centre, an organisation which promotes safe

and responsible use of technology for young people. thank you both very much for coming in. we have had lots of comments from people watching at home. many saying that parents need to be with their kids and monitoring what they are doing online more closely. i wa nt to are doing online more closely. i want to start with a text that has come through, from somebody anonymous, saying that the comment about parents being with their children while they are online is uneducated. the grooming happens on the game itself right under the noses of parents, in their front rooms, while parents are present. the children don't recognise it as grooming so they don't flag it up to their parents. the groom is a that make it look like it is part of the game. the instant chat disappears. that is where it starts and it can become more serious. parents are not at fault and gaming companies are

responsible and police need more powers. there is a lot of truth in that. there is a lot of blaming pa rents that. there is a lot of blaming parents and talking about monitoring children's behaviours, when actually we should be focusing on how abusers are getting access to children. we know when children are in spaces where they are playing that abuses will try and get access to them in the places where they feel co mforta ble the places where they feel comfortable and groom them in ways that we have seen in that earlier tragic bt. and it is really important that we look at the source of harm, which is always abusers, and how we protect children in an environment where they should be able to play safely. what advice would you give to parents to keep their kids safe? definitely be involved. yes, common sense. it is not fairjust to blame the parents but on the other side, there is a question about responsibility. yes, the responsibility of the companies and the government and of all of us taking part in the digital world, as well as the players of the game and

parents. being involved and getting as much connection with your child about the game. ask what kind of games is he or she playing and with whom? those games is he or she playing and with whom ? those are games is he or she playing and with whom? those are common—sense rules, which we would ask a child after playing on a playing field for a couple of hours. who are you playing with? it remains the same on the online world. if you do find such content and contact on social media, orany gaming apps, content and contact on social media, or any gaming apps, please report such behaviours to the police, and if you find harmful content online, report it. there is a website for that where you can report to the content. and then there are helpline petitioners which will help you mediate your questions that you have with social media and gaming companies so you can then report it properly. these incidents need to be reported. amanda, there have been

many cases of abuse is getting access to kids online. it is not something that people are naive about existing. 0bviously something that people are naive about existing. obviously it is an ongoing problem. another text has got in touch anonymously to say her son was groomed on an online game and an old estonian man would call him beautiful and send an in game gift, and! him beautiful and send an in game gift, and i found him beautiful and send an in game gift, and ifound out about it him beautiful and send an in game gift, and i found out about it when the man sent an explicit framed drawing of himself to our home. disgusting. how well educated our pa rents disgusting. how well educated our parents and in turn kids to actually spot the grooming, somebody appealing to a child by telling them positively things that they might like to hear? in barnardos services, we have supported over 3000 children last year who were sexually exploited and 60% have been contacted at some point online, so we know the prevalence is there. i think the issue is that we try and help children spot these people. and

we almost look at their behaviour as monstrous and it occurred to us as adults that their behaviour is monstrous. but as these children present to children is friendly, supportive, helping them learn the game, being interested in them and their ideas, in terms of thinking about what they want and their hopes and dreams. they feel like friends. it is really hard to spot that. we try and train children to look for those early feelings and actually what we do then is to be set children up to fail. by the time friendships have developed, it is very difficult to spot the abusive behaviours until they happen. it is much better to talk about, as boro said earlier, dialogue between pa rent said earlier, dialogue between parent and child. how are you doing? pa rents a re parent and child. how are you doing? parents are more likely to objectively spot those things. but it relies on the kid being open to having a conversation with their pa rents, having a conversation with their parents, and teenagers in particular that at any age, children may not wa nt to

that at any age, children may not want to engage in such a conversation. as parents we can sometimes exacerbate that. children tell us something scary and we say you are not going on that game again. actually children get punished for doing the very thing we are asking them to do. what is the right thing to do in that situation? pa rents right thing to do in that situation? parents should seek advice and tell their child they have done the right thing and think again about how to access the game more safely. that in itself will give children resilience because they will encounter it on all different platforms. this is something children are navigating all the time, often really successfully. we have got to learn something about what they can teach us something about what they can teach us about how they are keeping themselves safe online already. thank you very much and thank you for your comments. please keep them coming in. some students are charged too much for their degrees and university tuition fees in england should be cut to £7,500. that's one of the findings of a long awaited report into higher education funding in england by the businessman phillip augar.

grants for low—income students, scrapped in 2016, should be brought back, and students should have longer to pay back their loans, up to a0 years rather than the current 30 years. the point at which you start paying back your loan should be lowered from a starting salary of £25,000 to £23,000. the review also calls for more support for those wanting vocational training, or those going into higher education later in life. universities have expressed fears about the cuts to fees, saying it could lead to bigger class sizes, poorerfacilities, and less money to support students. theresa may said she supported the call to reintroduce maintenance grants for students from low—income backgrounds. nobody should feel they have to go to university, and that applies to children from middle—class backgrounds just as much as anyone. nor should anybody feel because of who they are or where they are from the world of higher education is not open to them

because it would cost too much. thanks to this government, universities are legally required to improve access and if you are from a disadvantaged background you are more likely to go to university than ever before. but improvements are slow and the challenge remains large. the number of young people from working—class families who apply to and take up places at universities is a long way from reflecting the country in which we live. joining us now, professor the baroness alison wolf, an economist and member of the independent panel. shakira martin is the president of the national union of students. bill rammell is the vice chancellor of the university of bedfordshire, and former higher education minister in the last labour government. nick hillman is the director of the higher

education policy institute. if it was looking at the whole of higher and further education which drove us. at present the system ta kes far drove us. at present the system takes far more no of and gives far more support to those who go straight into full—time education at the age of 18 than it does to anybody else. and so the thing that we we re anybody else. and so the thing that we were most concerned about right the way through was how to change things in such a way that it became a system that offered genuine opportunities and genuine support for the whole of the adult population. now, we were also very aware that we have a fantastic university system, and therefore we we re university system, and therefore we were also quite clear that we mustn't do anything that would do it any genuine harm, and we believe very strongly that nothing we suggest would do that. but we wanted to ta ke suggest would do that. but we wanted to take account of the whole population. we were deeply concerned at the cumulative loss of resources andindeed

at the cumulative loss of resources and indeed students at further education. referring back to the clip that you just played, we did also feel that disadvantaged stu d e nts also feel that disadvantaged students coming to those going to universities, it really deserved some more upfront support. and do you feel what they have come up with isa you feel what they have come up with is a more equal offering? steps in the right direction. i welcome that they have prioritise further education. coming from a nontraditional back and myself, i'm glad to see that being put at the forefront of it, however news has not really been picking up what has been happening in further education. it has a long way to go. we welcome maintenance grants. we welcome the fa ct maintenance grants. we welcome the fact that level two and three qualifications will be free for those that don't have traditional routes. however it is not about taking from peter to pay paul, and we have concerns about taking it out of the higher education system to fund he. we need a fully funded higher education system with clarity

of resources. you have described it asa of resources. you have described it as a con. i think this will cut students hard. it will lead to reduced time with tutors, shorter library opening hours, among the other impacts. the reason i'm describing it as an icon is because it is being accompanied with the extension of re payment it is being accompanied with the extension of repayment from 30 to 40 years. that headline of a £2000 cut, fine, but it means more graduates will be paying back for longer. i don't think that is fair or sustainable. professor, respond to that point. we have to pay our bills. the thing that has always worried me is that if we don't have enough money coming into the system from a combination of government grantand from a combination of government grant and student repayments, we will come back with a really bad higher education system. we have seen higher education system. we have seen this in a large number of countries around the world. the amount of money coming in goes down and down and you have huge lecture

theatres where nobody is getting a decent education, and we have avoided that and created a wonderful system partly because we expect some contribution from people who are learning as well as the government. we have said very clearly that we don't think that what they call the overall resource should be cut. we are asking for less in the form of upfront fees from students and the government should be putting more into the most important areas. in terms of extending the length of time, what we are actually talking about is not asking for any more money from the people who don't own very much. there will continue to be an absolute cut—off point and if you own less than that, you don't pay anything back. but what we are actually talking about is people in the top quarter of incomes. people who are earning quite a lot more than three quarters of the population being asked to pay about £3 extra a week when they are in

their 50s. that doesn't seem to me an unreasonable ask from people who have benefited from the fantastic system. that is not accurate. the impact, and! system. that is not accurate. the impact, and i was told this in a briefing by a member of the panel yesterday, is regressive. it is actually graduates who earn less who are going to be contributing more for longer. and i think the fundamental problem is the current system, and i agree with alison, the current system has brought real benefits to universities and students, in contrast to what went before in terms of exclusive public funding of higher education. but this review risk taking is backwards andl this review risk taking is backwards and i think it is frankly naive to think that the treasury will step in and make good this cut in fees. nick, what is your perspective on this? like shakira, i am somewhere between bale and alison. it is a coherent report with lots of sensible recommendations, but as bill says, it relies on the treasury finding hundreds of millions of pounds of extra money and given the

political environment in which we are in, the prime minister launched the report today and we don't know who will be prime minister to implement it, or whether they will have a pick and mix approach. i think it is a coherent and sensible report but if they pick and mix the bits they like and reject those bits they don't like, we could end up with a less well funded system, as bill says. shakira, many people go to university and will not earn enough to pay back their fees. 0bviously enough to pay back their fees. obviously there are lots of courses out there that don't deliver as well as others in terms of a return that you might expect in terms of increased earnings over a lifetime. do you think the system as it stands is right with the level of offering and the range of courses that there is? should everybody going to university be going right now?

i think it is about options, it is not about your class, gender, race, postcode, it is about opportunity. and also whether you are a doctor or an architect, education is for the public good and everyone in society benefits from it. thank you all very much forjoining us and if you have got those at home, get in touch and let us know what you are thinking. robert and margaret abrahart are the parents of natasha abrahart, a bristol university student who took her own life on 30th april last year. over a period of 18 months, 11 students at the university are thought to have taken their own lives — at least nine have been recorded as suicide. after their daughter's death, robert and margaret used their life savings and crowdfunded £20,000 to get legal representation at her inquest. the coroner ruled that there were serious failings in natasha's care by the avon and wiltshire mental health trust, but did not find the university was at fault. natasha's parents have now decided to take civil action against the university in the hope

of preventing further deaths. they're the subject of a bbc 1 documentary tonight. this is a short extract. after six months we still haven't got around to doing anything. nobody wants to come up here. that's the truth. she used to sit in the chair there in that corner playing the cello. i think i find it really hard to think that she's gone. it's sort of unreal, unnecessary. a waste. you have to accept it somehow, don't you?

yes, one minute you've got a daughter, the next minute you haven't. robert and margaret abrahart are here with us now. thank you very much for coming in, i know it was painful for you to have those pictures there and our sympathies go out to you both with what you have had to go through. let's start talking about natasha, what was she like growing up? she was kind of the perfect daughter, she went through all the life stages, she did well at school. we very rarely told her off because she a lwa ys very rarely told her off because she always did things i wanted her to do, she always helped out. she was very hard—working do, she always helped out. she was very ha rd—working with do, she always helped out. she was very hard—working with her studies, she always saw things through to the end. if she did not know something,

she found things out herself. with hindsight she never really asked for help and that is something she would have found difficult. she was quite shy, although she had lots of friends. she would mix with people but would be the follower rather than the leader, always contributing and looking after people, but she would not be the front person that would not be the front person that would stand out. when she started to struggle how much were you aware of it? we had no idea she was struggling with the particular aspect of her course. none of her friends had any idea to the degree with which she was struggling. you said because she did not seek help in lots of areas that she kept it to herself? if she had a problem, she would try and sort it out herself, that was always what she did. i cannot remember a time that she asked for help. that makes it tough

to know what is going on to make sure she gets the right help. she did seek help from the university. the issues were flagged up in october when she saw her tutor. she had two meetings with her senior tutor and they were aware of the situation. in fact, the senior tutor was the first person to identify it as social anxiety disorder. running through the contact there was, this all emerged at the inquest. it emerged the department she was studying in, the school of physics, had identified there was a need for pastoral support for natasha in october 2017. it was specifically relating to the difficulties she was having verbally delivering reports. the university went on to look at making reasonable adjustments to support her on her course and she was taken to a university gp by a

representative from the department, but still... can i clarify? they actually managed no adjustments. they looked into it and it was not followed up? they made various referrals, but they did not implement any adjustments whatsoever. and how did that leave her feeling? it is worse than that because in addition to struggling with these particular assessments, i think they were fairly easy to fix, but in addition to that they were giving herzero, so by but in addition to that they were giving her zero, so by christmas she was in dangerof giving her zero, so by christmas she was in danger of being downgraded from a four—year prestigious masters degree and by easter she was in danger of degree and by easter she was in dangerof being degree and by easter she was in danger of being kicked off the course entirely. did she speak to you about that? we knew nothing about this particular problem. but subsequently you discover that was

weighing on her mind? she became suicidal in february and still no adjustments were made. it emerged she was feeling suicidal in february and she spoke again to someone at the university. an e-mailwent and she spoke again to someone at the university. an e-mail went from here—mail the university. an e-mail went from her e—mail account to an administrator explaining she had had suicidal thoughts to some extent and attempted it. the next day the administrator did go with her and her flatmate to a gp surgery. unfortunately, that particular person went back to herjob and never told anybody that natasha was suicidal. the rest of the machine ground forward, still putting her under stress and pressure. we see no evidence of anything happening. there does not seem to be a lot that happened at the university, they

stepped back. whether they knew she was involved with the mental health trust or the gp and they were just sort of living that responsibility, but it seems as though when she reached crisis point we don't see any evidence of anything they did to deal with that. you now are considering legal action against the university. what is it that you want specifically address? what are you hoping for? in our view the university are still in denial, now they are denying they are in denial, but we won't go into that. the university had a duty of care and i don't see it was actually implemented. we would like to see recognition that they had a duty of ca re recognition that they had a duty of care and some acceptance of what happened on their part. we went to the coroner's caught and the coroner decided that we could not

investigate, or do any major form of digging for information, in terms of the... the coroner made a ruling that the adequacy of support provided by the university was out of scope. it was never properly considered. when i hear the university saying the coroner said we are not at fault, it was not actually properly considered. it is an outrageous claim. how important is it to you both that these things are properly scrutinised? we have seen are properly scrutinised? we have seen at bristol 12 deaths believed to be suicide. we have seen it across the country, that there is a high suicide rate. looking at natasha's case it looks like it was

unavoidable in her case. as far as we know these have not been investigated in detail. how many other students have been in a situation like natasha were small steps might have made a huge difference as to whether people reached breaking point? it is frightening. as you say the university is strongly defending the systems they have in place and they are saying changes have been made and they are encouraging disclosure. cani and they are encouraging disclosure. can i explain, the university has said to us categorically no investigation was carried out specifically into natasha's debt and no changes therefore have been made. they talk about the broad approaches they are taking, whole university approach into mental health, but unless you look at what went wrong the problems persist, they are still there. as faras the problems persist, they are still there. as far as i can see the only people looking are the parents, is

quite difficult because the university has its own systems, records and staff, to find out what we nt records and staff, to find out what went wrong. we have had to drag the information out of the university through the coroner's court. do you think there can ever be a perfect system when someone is struggling? think about an aeroplane crash. the plane crashes, you investigate what we nt plane crashes, you investigate what went wrong and make sure that particular problem does not occur. if you want to anchor a system, a laudable aim, you have to pick up the problem and if you are not looking, you will not find the problem to fix. have you spoken to any of the other parents in the same situation? yes, we have been in touch with other parents informally and with mind looking at the mental health charter and universities. we are also hoping through the charity

inquest to meet up with other pa rents to inquest to meet up with other parents to see whether we can be taking that forward to the government, to see whether bigger changes can be made across the board to make universities more accountable. within the nhs there was always an investigation following a series incident, but similar systems don't apply in universities. something the coroner recommended in a previous inquest is the need for universities to do investigations. thank you both very much for coming in. dying for a degree is on tonight at 11.35pm on bbc one avon and wiltshire mental health partnership trust says: "we are deeply sorry for natasha's death. we fully accept the findings of the coroner and recognise that we did not act in accordance to best practice in all of the care provided to natasha.

we and our partner organisations know that changes need to happen to some of our processes and ways of working and we are committed to doing this and have already put in place some measures to minimise the risk of a similar incident occurring in the future." professor occurring in the future. professor sarah purdy from bristol university says: "the school's student administration manager spoke and met with natasha on many occasions to offer support and advice, and to help herfind appropriate professional support. on one occasion she went to natasha's flat to offer support and personally take her to the students' health service to see a gp for an emergency appointment. after a referral from her gp in february 2018 natasha was under the care of specialist mental health professionals although she continued to receive support and advice from staff in the school of physics. the coroner found no fault on the part of the university. we are pleased that this recognises the efforts of our committed staff to support natasha, but we are by no means complacent about the scale of the challenge in relation to student mental health. it is one of the biggest public health issues affecting

young people globally, not just those studying at university. and if you've been affected by issues in this discussion, there is a range of organisations and websites that can offer you advice and support. you can find them listed on the bbc‘s actionline website at bbc.co.uk/actionline. the cricket world cup has begun, with the first match between england and south africa under way. prince harry opened the six—week tournament which ends with the final on the 14th july. it's the fifth time the tournament has been held in england and wales but the team has never won before. this time though the bookies have england as favourites. there are ten teams in total and they play each other at least once in a round—robin format. demand for tickets has been huge but the most sought—after ticket of the tournament, india v pakistan in manchester on june 16. there were nearly half a million ticket applications for the 23,000 seats available. the old trafford ground could have sold out 20 times over. the last time they played each other

in a one—dayer was in 2017 and it was the second most watched cricket match of all time with half a billion viewers. today however, the focus is on england and joining us now from the oval is our correspondent andy swiss. excitement building i assume? that is right. they have been playing for about ten minutes or so, slightly sticky start for they lost the toss, south africa put them building into bat and they are currently 12—1 after three overs. they lost a wicket, just the second ball of their innings, jonny bairstow out for a duck, caught behind off the spin bowler imran tahir, a brave ploy by the south africans to start with their spin bowler. normally they go with their pace bowlers. england slowly feeling their way back into the innings, but they have

made a slightly sticky start. glorious conditions, 25,000 fans packed into the stands behind me. it is the start of what england fans hope will be a very successful world cup on home soil. thank you very much, andy. thank you very much, andy. we are nowjoined by some guests to discuss the cricket world cup and whether it will encourage more people to take up the sport. katy ritchie is the head of national programmes at the england and wales cricket board. annie chave will be commentating on the world cup for guerilla cricket and in her youth was thrown out of a team because she was a girl. saima khan is the uk director of the cricketing charity the shahid afridi foundation who have used cricket to help vulnerable youth. thank you all very much forjoining us. thank you all very much forjoining us. annie, why were you thrown out of cricket as a girl? it did not stop you. things have changed a lot since i was young. i was ten, i was pretending i was a boy because there was no girl cricket. when they found out i was a girl they said i could

not come again. but it did not stop you? absolutely not. i think it made me feel like i had done something wrong for a while, but i was always a passionate cricket fan and i still am now. this particular world cup with england as favourites is an exciting time? absolutely. it could be anyone's game, i think anyone could win it. i think it is great that england are favourites. i think australia and india are very likely to do well. personally i'd really like afghanistan to do well or the west indies just because it would be good for cricket. it would be good for the world cricket. katie, how

goodis for the world cricket. katie, how good is this for cricket? how much do something like this reach out beyond the hardcore fans and bring other people into the sport? beyond the hardcore fans and bring other people into the sport7m provides an amazing platform to showcase the sport. people see sport that they perhaps would not have seen that they perhaps would not have seen it before hand that they perhaps would not have seen it beforehand and we want to provide opportunities so when people see the amazing opportunities on tv they can go out and have a go. see the amazing opportunities on tv they can go out and have a gom see the amazing opportunities on tv they can go out and have a go. is it intimidating to get into if you don't understand cricket? it can be perceived as being complicated and we are working hard to adjust that. we have got a programme for five to eight—year—olds through women's softball, through lots of initiatives, to dispel some of those misconceptions. we are seeing prince harry, an ambassador for the game. prince harry and prince william were there today. tell us more about the

work your foundation does. our foundation was established five years ago by the previous pakistani captain and we focus on education, health care and clean water projects. we are using it as a platform to get individuals who are vulnerable and we have had a few projects in pakistan, for example individuals on drugs and we are using cricket to get them off drugs and intoa using cricket to get them off drugs and into a healthy lifestyle. we are looking to do a few more projects but i am not at liberty to talk about them now, but they are in the pipeline. how much of a leveller is cricket in pakistan? it is the most watched sport in pakistan and everybody will be glued to their tv sets right now following the world cup. could we learn more from what goes on in india and pakistan without being a grassroots leveller?

i think cricket is religion and you see everywhere and we hope it provides inspiration for people to get a bat and ball and to start playing we hope we get closer to how popular the sport is abroad. we are joined by monty panesar. what are your expectations for this world cup? i think england are firm favourites. they should definitely make the group stage. i would be surprised if that did not happen. but there are other teams who are really good as well. pakistan always play well in big tournaments, india will be strong. but india are the favourites by a long way. how much do you think this event might bring a wider lab of cricket potentially than there already is in this

country? it is a great opportunity to get all the other smaller nations which are not participating in this world cup to help and to take a firm interest in what is happening. also the money that will be generated from this tournament is definitely going to help cricket globally. we need the big teams to do well. we can't afford to not have any of the big teams going through the group stages. the likes of india, england, australia, pakistan, south africa, they are all the top... australia, pakistan, south africa, they are all the top. .. we have lost him. we havejust about lost they are all the top. .. we have lost him. we have just about lost you. they are all the top. .. we have lost him. we havejust about lost you. in terms of the expectation on the shoulders with england as favourites, what is that like? that will be the key factor if england wa nt will be the key factor if england want to win this world cup. how they handle pressure, how they handle the nation behind them. it is similar to

the football world cup when england did really well and the whole nation gathered momentum and they kept on supporting them game by game. the same thing, i am sure the nation will get behind england in the next few weeks and we will see some good results and witness our first world cup when stop thank you all very much. victims of rape are being advised not to seek counselling until after criminal trials are complete. that's the claim being made after an investigation by vice news. current government advice says that "pre—trial discussions ,including therapy, may lead to the allegations of coaching, and ultimately, the failure of the criminal case". labour are calling for an emergency review of that guidance. there is some ancient guidance that is clumsy and contradictory that appears on official websites and appears on official websites and appears to be, as far as i

understand, the official guidance. whatever that says, and it speaks with forked tongue, we are being told by journalists with forked tongue, we are being told byjournalists and women's groups that women are being actively discouraged from seeking counselling, therapy, vital mental health treatment. we can talk to chantelle, not her real name. she is 23 and she was told she could not have counselling until any trial was over. grace ong is an executive member of the criminal bar association and practising criminal barrister at 2 kings bench. cha ntelle, tell chantelle, tell us what you were told. after you speak to the pleas

you get sent to lots of rape crisis centres and i was told i could not get therapy. how did that make you feel? it was confusing that you had gone through this event and you had done what you are meant to do, report it straightaway, and that it is disappointing. did you not have counselling? yeah, iam having pre—trial therapy which means i am not allowed to talk about the event that happened to me. i can see it is distressing for you to talk about. thank you, we appreciate you joining us. thank you, we appreciate you joining us. chantelle thank you, we appreciate you joining us. cha ntelle is thank you, we appreciate you joining us. chantelle is not your real name. all alleged victims have a complete right to anonymity. let's bring you m, right to anonymity. let's bring you in, grace. is this happening in court, that alleged victims are being accused of having been coached by defence counsel? not necessarily

being coached. when we talk about the use of counselling notes in trials for sexual offences that is where it might come in. for example, if it is a reasonable line of enquiry for the prosecuting authorities to look at a complainant's authorities to look at a complaina nt‘s counselling notes authorities to look at a complainant's counselling notes and there are some fundamental inconsistencies, then the danger is that the defence may apply to seek to use the inconsistency in cross examination, or to deploy it as part of their defence. so in the cases where i have been prosecuting there hasn't generally been any suggestions of coaching by the councillors, but more what appears in the notes, that is inconsistent

with the allegations that they make for the sexual offences. rebecca, what is the impact of this? it is significant. chantelle has described it as confusing. it really is, but more than that it is cruel. the fact that a woman who has been raped is then told she cannot access counselling, she cannot access that specialist support that is described asa specialist support that is described as a life changing and life—saving because of issues the criminal justice system is shocking and needs to change. we know there are serious issues across the criminaljustice syste m issues across the criminaljustice system when it comes to the prosecution of rape and child sexual abuse. this is one of many other injustices that survivors are having to experience and face. can you see this can be changed? shami chakrabarti this can be changed? shami chakra barti said labour would this can be changed? shami chakrabarti said labour would review it. it does need reviewing and there is an on going and review of the

criminal justice is an on going and review of the criminaljustice system is an on going and review of the criminal justice system happening is an on going and review of the criminaljustice system happening at this time as a result of the drop in prosecution rates and other issues. we need to see that come out with radical changes and improvements so all the survivors reporting to the police, and more and more are choosing to do that, are able to experience a form ofjustice. grace, asa experience a form ofjustice. grace, as a lawyer, do you believe the odds are stacked against an alleged rape victim from the start in terms of what has to happen through the process to get them even to the point of trial? you have recently discussed the issues around disclosure and having to hand over mobile phones. i agree, there really does need to be some updated guidance, particularly to investigating officers and disclosure officers who generally advise complainants when they come to them. as lawyers and barristers

we only get the case once all of that pre—trial preparation has completed. one thing one charity has raised is a concern around the way somebody comes across, if they are too calm. is that something that has been an issue? there are a lot of myths in the criminaljustice system and in society as a whole about the impact of rape, how women who have been raped should act. this isjust one of the more damaging ones, the idea that people who have been raped act and behave in a certain way, and it needs to be challenged. where i work we are trying to challenge that. thank you for your company today. see you soon. have a lovely afternoon, goodbye.

good morning, you will have noticed it is quite warm and muggy outside at the moment. we have got some sunshine and i will start off with the sunshine in cornwall. this is the sunshine in cornwall. this is the exception rather than the rule. for many of us it is quite cloudy out there and outbreaks of rain will turn heavier in central scotland this afternoon. sunshine in southern and eastern areas of england and thatis and eastern areas of england and that is where we see the highest temperatures. up to 23 degrees in the south—east. in the far north of scotla nd the south—east. in the far north of scotland quite a contrast at 10 celsius. tonight across northern pa rt celsius. tonight across northern part we will continue with outbreaks of rain and that will be heavy for a time. elsewhere it is a largely dry with a drizzle on coastal areas. temperatures no lower than 11—13. on friday further heavy rain for scotla nd friday further heavy rain for scotland and northern ireland, drier

in england and wales and it will be warm. you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's 11am. and these are the main stories this morning. lower fees but longer repayments — university tuition fees in england should be cut to £7,500, a review recommends. we looked very hard at the way higher education is funded and we feel that the benefits accrue for the individuals who go there, and also the state and economy at large, and we think it right that the cost

of that should be shared. at least seven people are killed