it's friday. it's ten o'clock. i'm chloe tilley. a letting agency has been illegally evicting tenants and taking their belongings, this programme has been told. tenants say they got home to find the locks changed and their rooms emptied. my clothes, my shoes, towels. they took my shaving machines. they literally took everything. they even took my bed sheets. as far as i can see, there's more consumer protection for someone who buys a bathroom plug than someone who rents a property from a letting agent. the father of a british foreign fighter who plans to go to the high court to try to bring his missing grandson back from syria. my grandson's innocent and he's not a criminal and it's my duty as a grandparent to get him back.

on the road to madrid — liverpool and tottenham fans head to the spanish capital for the first all english champions league final in a decade. we'll hear from fans making the journey. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11:00 this morning. some of you have already been getting in touch about your experiences with landlords — and tenants. nairn on twitter: "how many landlords lose thousands and thousands of pounds when tenants don't pay rent? not saying illegal eviction is right but the court system of evicting tenants who don't pay rent is a joke. months and months of waiting just to get the paperwork into the system. miguel on twitter: the first estate agent i used in london did the exact same thing to the french guy i used to live with.

one of theirformer agents had keys to our flat and tried to bring a female friend back after a night out too. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about, use the hashtag victoria live. first annita mcveigh has a summary of the day's news. good morning everyone. the uk's biggest business organisation is urging the next prime minister to promise that the country will leave the european union only with a deal. in an open letter to mp5, the head of the confederation of british industry, carlolyn fairbairn, warns that a no—deal brexit would cause british companies "severe damage". she also warns that smaller companies cannot afford the necessary preparations for leaving without a deal. a letting agency has been illegally evicting tenants and taking their belongings, this programme has been told. tenants we've spoken to said they arrived home to find their locks had been changed and their rooms emptied.

i got in to my room, they changed the lock and i was like, ah, and everything was gone. flintons in east london, said it "strongly denies" it has ever broken the protection from eviction act or taken their customers' personal possessions. we'll be bringing you that full report straight after this bulletin. stay with us for that. the deputy leader of the liberal democrats, jo swinson, has announced that she'll be running to be the next leader of the party. the former equalities minister says the country is "crying out for change". she faces competition from former energy secretary sir ed davey, who has declared his intention to stand. current leader sir vince cable will step down in july. and in the conservative leadership race, former chief whip, mark harper, has become the 12th candidate to enter the contest to replace theresa may. in the daily telegraph, he says he's "quite happy to acknowledge" that he's the underdog in the contest.

r kelly has been charged with a further 11 sexual assault and abuse offences. court records show the charges relate to a child aged between 13 and 16 and some carry a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison. president trump has announced tariffs on all goods coming into the united states from mexico. in a tweet, mr trump said that from 10 june a 5% tariff would be imposed and would slowly rise "until the illegal immigration problem is remedied". mexico's top diplomat for north america, said the proposed tariffs would be "disastrous". liverpool and tottenham will be part of history when they meet in the champions league final tomorrow. thousands of fans are making the journey to madrid after both teams won theirsemi—finals, coming from behind in dramatic style. it'll be the first time in over a decade that two english teams will be in the champions league final. and before 11:00, we'll be bringing you all the buildup when we talk to a selection of fans and former players of both liverpool and tottenham. stay with us for that. back to you, chloe.

thank you very much, anita. a letting agency has been illegally evicting tenants and taking their belongings, this programme has been told. tenants we've spoken to said they arrived home to find their locks had been changed and their rooms emptied. the agency, flintons in east london, said it "strongly denies" it has ever broken the protection from eviction act or taken their customers' personal possessions. the new allegations come six months after we reported the same agency demanded hundreds of pounds before customers were allowed to even view rooms to rent. at the time those claims were also denied. esme ash reports. for millions now it's no longer a choice. more of us are renting privately. the number is up two thirds in a decade driven by high property prices. but what happens when it goes wrong? everything was gone.

we've seen figures showing reports of illegal evictions are rising. it's just not something you simply imagined going on much in 2018. and the authorities are struggling to deal with it. julius isjust starting out in the fashion industry. his firstjob is at this agency in central london. what was the rent for this place? 693. last year he moved from manchester to a shared flat here in tower hamlets. do you know how much the other people are paying in there? at some point, he was charged extra fees for late payment of his rent. he says he was in talks to pay this back. then he says he came home at night to find the key to his bedroom door didn't work. when a locksmith let him in, he says his room was empty. so you came home. could you fit your key in the door? i got into my room.

they changed the lock and i was like, "oh!" everything was gone. and i took video. i took pictures as well. and then i was in my room like... everything was gone. what was in your stuff? what did you have that they took? my clothes, my shoes, towels. they took my shaving machines. they literally took everything. they even took my bed sheets. this is the agency that sold him that room. flintons in east london. the firm told us it strongly disputes thatjulius was locked out of his room or his possessions removed. it says he told them in a phone call two days before that he had already moved out and it appeared his room had been abandoned. that is denied byjulius, who says he still hasn't got his belongings back. i think about it every day and i'm just thinking why? why did this happen to me?

what have i done? i haven't done anything. i'm here like trying to work, you know, mind my business. it's not easy. it's like someone taking so much from you and kicking you out when you've done nothing. so what does the law say about eviction? well, actually there is quite a lot of protection already in place. it can be illegal if your landlord forces you to leave by threatening you or stops you from getting into parts of your home. or the locks are changed while you're out. the key clause here is due process, which means the correct steps have to be followed. the protection from eviction act protects all residential occupiers from harassment and illegal eviction. most people in the country need to be evicted by a court order. and the bottom line is if the landlord doesn't go to court and get a possession order from the court then that will be an illegal eviction. so if i was late on my rent or if i was being a bit of a frustration for the landlord they still couldn't chuck me out

without due process. they would have to go through... if you owed £100,000, the process is they've still got to go to court. they can't just change the locks on you. this programme has seen figures showing more than 2,000 people contacted citizens advice to report an illegal eviction last year. a five—year high across england and wales. but the evidence threshold for prosecution is high and penalties are rare. only 47 complaints led to a prosecution. there were 18 convictions. in the most serious cases, two people went to jail. the bbc is not aware of any criminal investigation into flintons relating to allegations of illegal eviction. i was there for only three months. i could walk into the city. i could take the dlr. sam is another customer of flintons, the same rental agency featured earlier. get someone else in. he also happens to be a commercial property lawyer in the city of london.

he took a room in this flat last year on a short—term lease. once again he says he was locked out and his belongings taken away. it was only when i tried to put my key in a lock that i discovered, hang on, there's something amiss here and realised what had happened. at the time, sam's rental contract had just come to an end. he says he was still in dispute with flintons after they failed to fix problems with the flat and had emailed them to say he wasn't planning to move out yet. i am totally convinced that they engage in unlawful practises. obviously it's the wrong thing to do morally, but legally it's a very serious thing what they've done and how can they carry on like this? it's just not something you simply imagined going on much in 2018. sam is now suing flintons for damages linked to what he says is an unlawful eviction. the agency denies his allegations

and says it will defend the case. it says it would not be proper to discuss it in more detail while legal proceedings are ongoing. people working in the housing sector say the true scale of the problem is very hard to measure. many tenants will just rent a new place without going to the authorities. that's especially true when we're talking about people who've just come to this country who might not understand the system or know where to get help. stan and his girlfriend georgina arrived in london from romania last year. both work nights packing sandwiches in a warehouse in the east end. again, they took a room with the same agency flintons. i have even one video with the room. i come home and i don't find nothing, nothing, nothing. stan accepts he missed some rent payments, but says there was no warning letter or phone call from the agency. instead he says he came home, his door was wide open

and all his belongings had just vanished. so you just came in and this is what... what i found — nothing. even garbage they take. everything. stan says he complained to flintons and ended up paying £450 to get his stuff back in bin bags in the street. the agency produced a receipt saying that payment was for leaving his contract early, though he disputes that. in bags, in black bags in the street. ten months later, the property ombudsman awarded them £400 in compensation for breaching its code of practice though it said it could not rule on the legality of the eviction itself. she hadn't lobbied to become a proper regulator. his caseworker at citizens advice says there is little more that can be done. stan could go to court but that costs time and that costs money as well. i just don't think that's feasible for many people. so in this case the property

ombudsman accepted that flintons had behaved wrongly. yeah, that's right. and criticised them for their behaviour. but it seems to me that it's not enough. flintons told us it again denies the allegations in this case. it says stan and georgina left the property of their own free will and says the ombudsman‘s ruling came after it failed to submit paperwork because of an administrative oversight. stan and georgina say the whole experience left them hundreds of pounds out of pocket. i was, "oh, my god, what happened here? " and georgina, my girlfriend, starts to cry. shock. i'm scared. people working in the sector say change is needed, both to better regulate letting agencies and to provide better access to help and support when something does go wrong.

as far as i can see, there's more consumer protection for someone who buys a bathroom plug than someone who rents a property from a letting agent. there is no regulator to manage the behaviour of disreputable letting agents and say, "don't behave like that." stricter regulation is something politicians have been promising for a while in england and northern ireland. in wales and scotland, new rules are already in place. by 2025, it's thought a quarter of us could be renting privately. the worry is that, without better protection, thousands more could be shut out of the housing market. now that we've watched the film about that specific company, we are going to move to a discussion of the broader issues of the rental market and protection for tenants. earlier i spoke to hasan irfan who fell behind on his rent at the start of the year.

one evening he returned to find that his landlord —from a different company, had broken open his door and taken away his belongings. i also spoke to roz spencer, the director of safer renting, an organisation which has been trying to help hasan and others affected by this. and we were also joined from his north yorkshire constituency by kevin hollinrake, conservative member of the housing, communities and local government committee. first of all, i understand you were living in a flat in london and eve fell behind in your rent by a couple of months. you went home to your flat on the 6th of february, what happened? 6th of february when i went to the flat, i seen they had broken in. all my belongings removed and they are telling me they are removing my stuff, contact the

office. he went into your flat and everything was removed, nothing at all? everything. my clothes, my belonging, my passport. everything you have. notjust your personal b holdings but everything to prove who you are? yes. had you had any warning from your landlord? no. they just put a paper under the door. we can play a video i know you recorded when you went into your flat that evening. let's have a look. so this, hasan,is evening. let's have a look. so this, hasan, is as she walked into your flat and what you were confronted with? yes. also there was a paper saying they had changed the lock and they had already made damage when they had already made damage when they broke in the door. they had

taken the lock out of the door?m is completely broken. did you go to the police? yes. what did they say? they said it is a civil matter and get a solicitor. is this a civil matter? it is, but lot of things are. it has been on the statute book for more than 40 years and that, it isa for more than 40 years and that, it is a civil matter, seems to be the default and it is wrong and private tenants deserve better protection and basically the other issue is, if you leave it to civil law, the prevention elements is lost. if you don't act in the moment and take police action, the chances are, the tendency will be lost and it cannot be reinstated. hasan, this happened in february, do you have your

belongings back, do you have somewhere to live? no. you are homeless? yes. so where are you staying now? sometimes i'm staying with friends. kevin, this is a desperately sad situation for hasan, how can this be happening?m desperately sad situation for hasan, how can this be happening? it is disgraceful, the landlord should be prosecuted and on the face of the evidence i have heard from hasan, they should be prosecuted and there isa fine they should be prosecuted and there is a fine of £5,000 and up to six months injail. is a fine of £5,000 and up to six months in jail. i want is a fine of £5,000 and up to six months injail. i want to bring ros spencer back in, i know you have been helping hasan and trying to give him support since this incident in february. here there from kevin, these incidents are few and far between, is that your experience?” wish that was so. we are a small charity working with four london

boroughs, some of the more progressive, determined and ambitious to deal with the problems, but it is a small part of london we are working in and i would say, from oui’ are working in and i would say, from our statistics, that about between third and a half is concerned with people and landlords trying to get possession. in 70%, the vast majority of those cases, it is either illegal or threat illegal eviction. i think the problem either illegal or threat illegal eviction. ithink the problem is, this issue is not being counted. we don't have big data on it. but our experience, as i say, in a particular area, is a daily occurrence. how particular area, is a daily occurrence . how is particular area, is a daily occurrence. how is this then, kevin, this is a daily occurrence, as we are hearing. citizens advice said they received over 2000 complaints about illegal convictions last year, of those, only 18 resulted in

convictions and just two people received a jail sentence. what is going wrong? that seems very high failure rate with prosecutions taken forward. it is understandable charities, when you talk about citizens advice dealing with some of theseissues citizens advice dealing with some of these issues and everybody in the sector would absolutely agree, when you have rogue landlords, they should be treated very harshly, as harshly as the law provides. the vast majority of landlords do a good job, but nevertheless, everybody, i think, wants to make sure we treat the situation is very seriously and act accordingly and make sure these rogue landlords are properly dealt with. do you think this is an issue of enforcement rather than a need to change the law? i absolutely do. as isaid, the change the law? i absolutely do. as i said, the protection of eviction act is very clear, you don't evict a

tenant without a court order under bailiff 's warrants. why isn't it being enforced? the residential landlords association has done some freedom of information work to try and find out what is going on. they have published for 2017, 18, only 19% of councils in england find any landlords. i don't think that is an accurate reflection of where wrongdoing is going on. as i said from our experience, it is an everyday occurrence. enforcement is a problem with the response hasan illustrates from the police, saying it isa illustrates from the police, saying it is a civil matter. really failing private tenants, but what has happened to the enforceability of councils. the law is there, it's just not being used. briefly, hasan, what effect has this ad on your

life? i cannot believe this, i am still in shock. you have one place where you are sleeping, you are feeling secure and then you go in and you look and everything has gone. notjust my personal stuff, my mum died, my father died, something personal you cannot buy. sentimental things? yes, i have a long year they are taking care of me, now there is nothing. i look to end my life is going now. that is hasan sharing his story. and thank you to many of you getting in touch with us. one landlord got in touch and said, i had a nightmare getting my rent and

i had to sell my property at a loss. never again. also on twitter, emma says there needs to be more protection for tenants. if you are suddenly made homeless like those in the uk, unless you have kids or a severe illness, he won't be put in emergency housing. sasha has text to say the exact thing happened to me. icame say the exact thing happened to me. i came home to a room with a lock on the door. when i contacted the agency, they made it sound like i was making up stories. they took everything, including my hiv medication and even after that, still denied everything. i had to approach the police and the council to get my belongings back. please keep your experience is coming in. use the hashtag victoria life. still to come. lost in a war zone. we'll be speaking to the father of a britishjihadi killed in syria trying to find his grandson who is still the country. they're getting ready in madrid for the 2019 champions league final —

the first all—english finalfor a decade — who are you rooting for? the father of a british foreign fighter plans to go to the high court to help bring his missing grandson back to the uk from syria. ash khurshid's son was killed in syria in 2016. he fears his three—year—old grandson salmaan may have lost his mother and been orphaned in the final days of islamic state group's self declared caliphate. lawyers want to make salmaan a ward of court, which they say will provide the legal authority to protect him and bring him to safety. campaigners say in the absence of a government plan to bring children like salmaan to the uk. british relatives are exploring their own ways to rescue children trapped in syria. poonam taneja has this report. the united nations says more

than 2,500 foreign children are stuck in camps in syria. ash kurshid fears his grandson salmaan is one of them. woman's voice: say hello. hello. he could be lying injured in a hospital bed or a camp. if found, his british family want the three—year—old brought to this country. lawyers say applying for salmaan to be made a ward of court may help. there has been use of wardship for pre—empting the disappearance of certain children to syria, but there is absolutely no reason why the same procedure shouldn't be used to secure their retrieval. the un and aid agencies have urged european governments to take responsibility for the children of islamic state members. something many countries are struggling with.

love. you. a special message from the grandson ash kurshid has never met. that's because three—year—old salmaan was born in the islamic state group's self—declared caliphate. he'sjust a gorgeous, gorgeous baby. he's got so much to give in life. salmaan's father was haroon khurshid. in 2013 he travelled to syria to fight for a jihadist group. there he married canadian islamic state supporter aisha, and together they had a son. i was encouraging him to come back. i had some communications. i said, "look, just get to turkey." even after salmaan was born i said, "now you've got a family,

look after yourfamily, your family comes first." 2016, haroon khurshid was killed by sniperfire. he was 21 years old and, although his widow aisha stayed loyal to islamic state group, and its ideology, she remained in contact with the family, sending photos and messages. but there's been no word from herforfour months. it's thought she and salmaan were living in baghouz, the last is stronghold, and that they were planning to escape. ash says there are conflicting messages claiming that aisha may even have been killed in the bombings. but he's holding onto hope that his grandson is alive. he could be lying injured in a hospital bed or a camp or whatever facility that they actually have put him into.

the family's contacted the international committee of the red cross to help find salmaan. so far there's been no word. but ash is encouraged by reports of unaccompanied children pouring into camps in northern syria, and is confident salmaan will be found. when he is, ash wants him to come to britain. lawyers suggest the kurshid family apply for salmaan to be made a ward of court. even if they can't be found at the moment, that grandparent can go to the high court, put in the originating summons, ask the high court to send directions out to the foreign office and to ngos out in that country and ask for the child to be found. and then, as soon as the child is found, a wardship order orders whoever is served the order to make

sure the child is returned to these shores immediately. since 2014, judges have used wardship to stop children from travelling outside the uk to join a terrorist organisation. now it's thought at the same powers can be used to bring british children of is members to the uk. there is a purely practical obstacle here and that is where is he? obviously, if a wardship application is made, let's say by a grandparent in this country, then the biological parent who may still be believing in that ideology and not wanting to be parted from salmlaan, could actually ask to be a part in the proceedings and have a point of view. earlierthis year, shamima begum, the london teenager who left to join isis with her school friends, says she wanted to return

to britain with her baby. i just want forgiveness really from the uk. the government made it clear she wasn't welcome and stripped her of her british citizenship. her baby son died days afterwards. lawyers and campaigners say they are aware or are working with the british relatives of at least 19 other children stuck in syria. but they say there are likely to be many more. most of their families don't know who or where to turn to for help. we are stuck at the moment. governments don't know what to do. aid agencies are saying we have these children in camps, why are you not stepping up? and i think it's just got very, very lost in a lot of politics and noise and ultimately leaving a three—year—old child potentially on its own in a dangerous situation, we just need to open up the pathways and if wardship enables us to do that then that's a very good way to move forwards.

the return of the wives and children of islamist state group's foreign fighters is something many countries, particularly in europe, are wrestling with. russia has repatriated more than 100 children of foreign fighters without their mothers. france has brought back five orphan children from syria. 74 children have returned to kosovo from syria. some with their parents. and several children of foreign fighters jailed in iraq have returned to germany. meanwhile, the uk government says if a british child who has been in syria is able to seek consular assistance outside of syria then they would work with local and uk authorities to facilitate their return if requested. my grandson's innocent

and he's not a criminal, and it's my duty as a grandparent to get him back. the families of children born to is members understand there's little public sympathy for them, but they say these children should not be punished for the actions of their parents. let's speak now to nikita malik, director of the centre on radicalisation and terrorism at the henry jackson society, think tank. and to cris mccurley, an international family lawyer who has worked on many of these cases and is aware of the khurshid family's case. starting with you, cris mccurley, what difference would it make to make salmaan a ward of court if it is not clear where exactly he is? well, the principle of wardship is a

really powerful tool which senior judges... and to be clear it is only our top judges judges... and to be clear it is only our topjudges who judges... and to be clear it is only our top judges who can use this power is passed can use to help child who is in a search situation of danger, to make an order where no legal order currently exists. so, it isa legal order currently exists. so, it is a really powerful, powerful tool. effectively making a child a ward of court makes that child the ward of the high court judge court makes that child the ward of the high courtjudge who makes the order, so it sends out a very powerful message to government bodies, two agencies on the ground and in foreign jurisdictions, bodies, two agencies on the ground and in foreignjurisdictions, that this is a protected child, every assistance should be given to this child. so would it force the government's hand to seek out where salmaan is? the wardship does not have the power to order any government department to do anything but what it does do is to open up

negotiations to request government departments to assist in the recovery of this child. nikita malik, this is a new area when it comes to syria, and the use of warships is different there. how useful do you think it is in bringing children back to the uk?” think it's a very important tool, i have written quite extensively about this and it has been used with hundreds of children in the uk to prevent them from going, making a child a ward of the court is also usesin child a ward of the court is also uses in cases of child abduction and child abuse. essentially, the president for this is, by making the child a ward of court, we would be saying this child has been abducted to syria and iraq by the parents, which is very much the case in many these cases we've seen. we've seen very small children who have no say in the matter being taken to a war zone where they are at risk of great harm. and in cases where children

have come back, thejudges have then made the decision that the harm was so made the decision that the harm was so great that the parent is not in a position to look after the child. and therefore it is in the best interests of the child to either be looked after by another family member, orfor the looked after by another family member, or for the state to have some involvement in the development of this child, particularly where the child may have faced trauma as they inevitably would have faced in a war zone. cris mccurley, it is also important to be aware in this case, with salmaan, he has never even been to the uk, he was born in the caliphate, albeit born to a british father. so why does it fall to the responsibility of the british government to try and bring him home? well, he is a british child, his got british family in the uk, his got british family in the uk, his father was a british citizen, and that gives him the right to come to the uk and to be reunited with his british family here. do you think, nikita malik, that it is more important to bring the child to the uk and separate potentially from a mother or a father than it is to

keep the family together? absolutely, i think in the cases where there is extensive harm being done, one can argue that this is inevitably a case of child abuse, you have a parent who has decided to put this child through extensive violence, conflict zone, we have many children in syria and iraq whose parents have had no say in the matter, they have happened to be in a war zone. here we have british pa rents a war zone. here we have british parents who have made the decision to ta ke parents who have made the decision to take them out of an area of safety a nd to take them out of an area of safety and put them in an area of violence and harm. and the best people to assess whether these individuals are able to care for the children are thejudges, individuals are able to care for the children are the judges, and individuals are able to care for the children are thejudges, and in many of these cases, the children will need to be separated until the pa rent need to be separated until the parent is effectively deep radical or able to look after the child. that doesn't mean to say that the family won't be involved. in the case that we've just seen, perhaps the grandparents and in many cases grandparents have stepped in and proven that they are able to look after their small child until the pa rents after their small child until the parents have served their time in jail orare parents have served their time in jail or are ready to then

participate in the child's life. cris, do you think is enough being done by the government to protect children? i think it is a very difficult and sensitive issue. for me, it is about human rights, that this is a child who has been born and asa this is a child who has been born and as a member of the is estate, that state no longer exists so that child has no state, if you like. all of our human rights protection, even our domestic legislation, says that no person can remain stateless. so effectively that child has british statehood, a british citizenship through his father who was a citizen. and politically it is a very difficult question, i know that. but we have an absolute duty to take care of children who are british citizens, wherever they are in the world. and wardship has been used, i've used wardship to bring children back from conflict zones before, it is possible, it is difficult but it can be done. the

more that the british government assists with that process, the better. thank you ever so much, both of you, for talking to us about that. a government spokesperson said... "the foreign and commonwealth office advises against all travel to syria and there is no consular support available to british nationals there. "if british children or those with parental responsibility for those children are able to seek consular assistance outside of syria, then we would work with local and uk authorities to facilitate their return if requested." a lawyerfor shamima begum has written to the home secretary accusing the government of failing to protect the former london schoolgirl from being trafficked by the islamic state group. in a letter seen by the bbc tasnime akunjee calls on sajid javid to reverse his decision to revoke ms begum's citizenship. we should take responsibility for our citizens. shamima begum was born in the uk, raised in the uk, trafficked from the uk and is a uk problem. we would ask the home secretary that he reverses the decision

so that she comes back to the uk and faces uk justice. for reaction let's go back nikita malik, director of the centre on radicalisation and terrorism at the henry jackson society think tank and to cris mccurley, international family lawyer who has worked on many of these cases and is aware of the khurshid family's case. nikita, do you think that the issues that are raised in this letter about talking about multiple failings by authorities to safeguard shamima begum are reasonable criticisms? well, i think we've been speaking about this case for some time, i've been on this programme twice before to speak about shamima begum and i do think that an audit is necessary, but blaming the state for shortcomings i think... we can only do that if an audit is done. we also have to keep in mind that there were seven goals. we talk about the three girls who made it to islam in state, there were four girls who actually stopped, and we were talking about wardship before this segment, wardship before this segment, wardship was used to stop these

girls from going. and we did that effectively. so i think it would not necessarily be a bad thing to understand where prevent could have been used better or what could have been used better or what could have been done. but to call her a victim of trafficking i think is extremely problematic because this is an individual case and it is generalising to much wider cases of trafficking that were used by islamic state to effectively abduct and make sexual slaves of yazidi women and other syrian and iraqi women. so i don't think in my opinion that that word is accurate but again, it will be up to a lawyer and a judge but again, it will be up to a lawyer and ajudge in but again, it will be up to a lawyer and a judge in a court to determine shamima begum in this particular case is either a victim or an agent in the as an state. and in my opinion it veers more towards an agent than a victim. cris mccurley, what is your take on this from a legal perspective, as an internationalfamily legal perspective, as an international family lawyer, legal perspective, as an internationalfamily lawyer, is legal perspective, as an international family lawyer, is this going to make any difference to her

case, as her family going to make any difference to her case, as herfamily want going to make any difference to her case, as her family want to going to make any difference to her case, as herfamily want to bring her back to the uk when clearly the uk government has no desire to do that? i think the uk government is conflicted on it and jacob rees—mogg has said that he has raised concerns about the decision to remove her citizenship, which is creating a kind of two—tier nationality system in the uk. and i know that former chief crown prosecutor never asked some has come out and said that he is concerned, does that mean that he has less of a british citizenship than the next person? i think it is incredible sensitive but as a lawyer, human rights has to come into it and we have to look at the issue of grooming very carefully. nazir afzal, who prosecuted many of the well— known six grooming nazir afzal, who prosecuted many of the well—known six grooming cases, rotherham, and newcastle, where young girls, vulnerable young girls, we re young girls, vulnerable young girls, were groomed and trafficked from various cities to sexy parties and used essentially as sexy slaves ——

asa used essentially as sexy slaves —— as a sex slaves, we need to look at how they were treated, they were vilified, they were treated as child prostitutes, it was treated as a life style prostitutes, it was treated as a lifestyle choice. now, because we know more and understand more, we know more and understand more, we know that they are not the guilty parties, they are the victims. and they are beginning to be treated as so. they are beginning to be treated as so. do you think, cris, there was a failure because these three girls who did make it to syria were questioned by the authorities prior to their departure, and their pa rents to their departure, and their parents weren't alerted, was that a failure? i can't comment on that particular case. what i would say, however, is that there are clear... there are clear, distinctive characters that link the sexual grooming cases to the so—called islamic grooming cases. nicky morgan when she was education minister made that parallel. and i think we just

don't know enough about grooming. our knowledge of it is in its infancy at the moment. as a society i think we have to do better. this was a 15—year—old girl who was groomed and who went abroad. how powerful can that message be if an impressionable young person has been told, you have to do this because god wants you to do it. and again, human rights, into it. we don't get our human rights given to us as a reward for good behaviour, they belong to all of us regardless. thank you very much both of you. a spokesperson for tower hamlets council said... "sharmeena begum was not known to the local authority prior to leaving for syria as neither the school, the nhs, the police nor any other bodies had raised any concerns about her welfare. the investigation into her disappearance was a confidential police matter and so it was not

possible for a risk assessment to be carried out by the council's prevent team." a major hollywood row over abortion has spread to britain after two of the world's most powerful media companies were urged to boycott northern ireland. disney and netflix joined a series of hollywood actors, and other tv and film companies, in threatening to withdraw from the us state of georgia over a proposed abortion ban there. pro—choice campaigners have pointed out that both broadcasters, and a number of actors, have been content to work in northern ireland, which has some of the strictest abortion laws in europe. when netflix and disney were asked if they would consider pulling investment, they declined to comment. barbara ntumy is on the executive commitee for the abortion rights uk — a national pro—choice campaign— and one of the organisations raising questions about netflix, disney and others. thank you for coming in. no problem.

what do you make of this difference in approach between georgia, the so—called heartbeat bill, and when you look at what happens in northern ireland and choice for women there? i think america and american news tends to dominate world news and thatis tends to dominate world news and that is what it is, america is a powerful and dominant force in the world. and on the one hand, disney and netflix i think should be commended for using their power and their influence, the lobby by hollywood actors, to take a stand against what is effectively denying women a right to choose. however it's not very consistent and this is what we are trying to raise. we really hope and i think that it is probably an oversight on the part of disney and netflix, kind ofjust wading in because that is the news. we don't have a news cycle talking about the issue in northern ireland which has existed for a very, very long time. and i think that is what has caught the eye and i hope that this is a signal that they will look into it and consider it because we know over 60% of people in northern ireland actually do support women's right to choose and lots of women are having to travel over to the uk

order pills online and if women have been found to have an abortion it could mean a life in prison. it's just completely unfair. women should get the right to choose. i think disney and netflix probably didn't do their homework and their research enough. it's a news cycle that they have wade into and i hope that they're going to go away and look into it and take that stand as well. let me read you some tweets which have been put out this morning. somebody who called out the industry for not boycotting northern ireland in the same way as georgia is the back girls actress who is from northern ireland herself, where the bag for series is filmed. she is a vocal pro—choice campaigner, but she has said she would rather support the women in northern ireland in other wares, do you think that is fair? i think that is fair, as a

woman who is very vocal herself, i com pletely woman who is very vocal herself, i completely support her decision to do what it is that she wants to do because actually working there and the work that she does actually does highlight and make people understand how dire and how bad things are and hopefully spurring on enough people in changing and campaigning around changing the law. i think netflix and disney have again waded into a very big debate that is ongoing. a lot of the time, the focus tends to be on the us because they are there dominant force in the world. there was some suggestion, and it is just a suggestion, being reported this morning, that netflix executives believe northern ireland is different because women have been denied abortions there are hundreds of years whilst women in georgia in the us are suddenly going to have their rights taken away, can you see that difference? butjust like the debate you had earlier, rights is not something we get to pick and choose when people have, rights are still rights, if an injustice has been going on for hundreds of years, we can't now say, we willjust not

say anything. as opposed to one which is currently happening. and actually we talk about the bill denying people access to abortion, there has been a lot of issues around access even in england, where abortion is available on the nhs, we as abortion rights campaign to a lot of work around access, around people protesting and harassing women. so it's not plain sailing, it's not that women have access and everything is fine. injustice 100 yea rs everything is fine. injustice 100 years ago is still an injustice today so it is important that if you're going to defend women in one pa rt you're going to defend women in one part of the world, you should do that in the other part of the world, too. thank you very much for coming in, barbara ntumy, on the executive committee for a pro—choice group, abortion rights uk. for the first time in over a decade, there are two english teams in the men's champions league final. tottenham and liverpool play each tomorrow in madrid after both sides won their semifinals coming from behind in dramatic style. liverpool are looking to win

the european cup for the sixth time, while this is the first time tottenham have ever made it to a european cup final. for those of you who may not be totally up to scratch with your champions league knowledge, lynsey hooper has this for you. this is your blagger‘s guide to the 2019 champions league final and the five things that you really need to know. the reason why this champions league final is so special is because it's an all—english final between liverpool and spurs. it's been 11 years since that last happened, when manchester united beat chelsea on penalties back in 2008. player sobs. so, players to watch for liverpool — sadio mane. he's been one of their star performers all season. joint top goal—scorer in the tournament with mo salah and roberto firmino. and for spurs, it's harry kane, the name on everybody‘s lips. he has had a disappointing season for him. been blighted by injuries, but he's declared himself fit and ready for this final.

you've probably heard everybody talking about the champions league semifinals and the goalkeepers for both ajax and barcelona had very tough times. that's because there were two stunning comebacks. both liverpool and spurs came from three goals behind to secure their place in that final in madrid. to be actually down 3—0 to barcelona and to come back and do it is unbelievable. we weren't going to beat city. we weren't going to beat ajax. we've done it and now we're going to do liverpool. and whoever wins out of liverpool and spurs in madrid will also guarantee their qualification for next season, but they also qualify for the european super cup as well. of course, when it comes to a champions league final, anyone can win on that day, but if you were going to ask me,

judging by recent performances, i'll be going for the reds. and my shoe fell off as well! let's speak to two former players. mark lawrenson — former liverpool player who won the european cup in 1984, and to gerry armstrong, former tottenham player. and we can now speak to chris pauros, a tottenham fan who is going to the game and is heading to madrid on saturday morning. and tojohn, a liverpool fan who is going to the game and has gone to madrid early and is there now. mark lawrenson, first of all, liverpool, clearly the favourites in this game, but if you look back, last year they were in the champions league final, if you look at the tea m league final, if you look at the team sheets, the majority of those players played last year. so, is that going to be an advantage or are they going to be feeling the pressure as favourites?” they going to be feeling the pressure as favourites? i think it'll be a slight advantage because

of the hurt of being beaten in last yea r‘s of the hurt of being beaten in last year's final, there's no doubt about that whatsoever. i would disagree the fact that you're saying liverpool are the clear favourites, because in all honesty, what happened in the league this season doesn't really matter because it's a cup—tied. it's a one—off cup tires everybody knows. and tottenham actually are probably better known for their results in cup matches rather than actually in league matches. from liverpool's point of view, they've got to use the hurt of last year, if possible, to get themselves up for the game. but i don't think that will be a major, major problem at all. gerry armstrong, it's a massive achievement for spurs to get to the final, would you agree with mark lawrenson that although liverpool finished 26 points ahead of totte n ha m finished 26 points ahead of tottenham in the league, they only lost one game during the whole season, it is a completely different situation? column the competitions are situation? column the competitions a re totally situation? column the competitions are totally different and spurs will know they've got 90 minutes to show they can win the game. i couldn't

believe they came back in the quarter—finals in the semifinals to actually qualify. so, they may feel their name is on it but the bookies have liverpool as red—hot favourites, it is evens for them and it is 3-1 favourites, it is evens for them and it is 3—1 for spurs to win it so spurs are the underdogs. but i think there is a way met more pressure on liverpool because of what happened la st liverpool because of what happened last season, a couple of mistakes by the goalkeeper, and i wonder goal from gareth bale. i think that could happen again. so it is anybody's, it's going to be a great game, i'm looking forward to it. chris, is it going to be stressful, you're going to be at the game, is it enough for spurs fans that you have got to the final or is that a really patronising question?” final or is that a really patronising question? i don't think it is patronising at all, i think if you had said to me at the beginning of the season, we would start the season with most of it at wembley, which we were expecting, with no transfers, either in the summer or at christmas, the fact that we are here is incredible. and it's been such a run and such a high, it's going to be the first of many, i'm

sure. and for you, john, your inward raid already, very keen, to be there nice and early, —— you're in madrid already. you were in istanbul, you saw the historic comeback by liverpool, what are your expectations, particularly after the pain of last year? yeah, we are just hoping we can do it this time. but it is going to be very, very difficult because tottenham on their day are a very good side. but liverpool are as well as i think given the season we have just gone through, we have to end up with a trophy because we have had a fantastic season and to come out... john, your line is slightly breaking up john, your line is slightly breaking up but chris is amusingly, she is having her nana of it. football can be cruel, it doesn't matter how well they have done this season. we have been on quite a run in this competition and i think the belief in the team is a strong. what is the

key, mark, i don't know if you would agree but one key thing would spurs need to do to get anything out of this game is to restrict trent alexander—arnold and andy robertson, down the flanks, do you think that is the biggest challenge for spurs? i think it is one of the biggest challenges, because as everybody knows, that is the way that liverpool play, the two fullbacks give them the width. a lot of teams have tried to stop them in the league and the champions league already this season and it's not worked. so they are very potent in terms of the crosses et cetera. but then you can throw in sadio mane, mo salah, for no —— firmino, all of those players. while you're always talking about liverpool going forward and how potent they can be, look at tottenham, kane could be back, look at the pace of look a smaller, delhi belly, christian eriksen, son, they are all outstanding. i think honestly it is a really close game, it is going to

be on the day. —— fool ali. a really close game, it is going to be on the day. -- foolali. -- deli alli. if you look at that game and failed, it was individual mistakes, without those individual mistakes... don't apologise, we like that. gerry armstrong, i was wondering what you think about the harry kane situation. we are told he is fit but when you look at lucas mauro's second half hat—trick, he has got to start, surely, should harry kane start? i think it is a big gamble to start? i think it is a big gamble to start with harry kane, he is their outstanding striker. but he is not match fit, he might be fit in terms of fitness but he is not match fit. i think he might leave him on the bench and bring him on if he needs him. look at liverpool, or weegie and wijnaldum won the game against

barcelona and they probably won't be starting, as mark said, it is a very close game to call. —— origi. starting, as mark said, it is a very close game to call. -- origi. what is the atmosphere like in madrid at the moment? it is not too bad, it has been growing. it was quiet wednesday, a bit busier yesterday, and you can see there is more people out today. i think chris is very overconfident, to be honest with you. liverpool have a great team, a great team. it's all right saying they don't deserve anything, they we re they don't deserve anything, they were unlucky in the league, lost one game all season, and to win this would just be the pinnacle for us. she is pulling faces, john, i've got to give her a chance. well, i'm not overconfident, i didn't say that they didn't deserve it, it's just that it they didn't deserve it, it's just thatitis they didn't deserve it, it's just that it is 90 minutes so you've got to hope, otherwise what's the point? yeah, that's what it is all about, foot ball yeah, that's what it is all about, football is all about hope. let's

hope that after two incredible semifinals, that the final lives up to the billing. thank you all of you for speaking to us and enjoy saturday. just to clarify, spurs have won a european trophy, not the european cup. they have won the european cup. they have won the european cup. they have won the european cup winners' cup and two uefa cups. newsroom live is coming up uefa cups. newsroom live is coming up next. thanks for all your message as ever. have a great weekend. we have got temperatures up to 20 celsius across eastern areas of england, where we had some sunshine this morning, it has started to cloud over there now. elsewhere across the uk there is a fair amount of clout as well. that is the scene

in shropshire at the moment. rain in skyland will continue into the afternoon. elsewhere there will be some sunshine developing in wales and the south—west of england and the midlands, elsewhere a bit of brightness in the afternoon but it is the rain in the highlands which will see up to 50 millimetres by the end of today. so, a lot of rainfall here. temperatures despite the cloud and rain in the north—west, up to 19 degrees, still feeling warm. elsewhere, widely getting up into the low 20s. this evening, a bit of rain moving south but into the weekend, lots of fine weather around on saturday. very warm, temperatures getting up to 28 celsius in the south—east of england, by sunday rain will be moving on from the west and it will turn a bit fresher.

you're watching bbc newsroom live — it's11am and these are the main stories this morning. the uk's largest business organisation, the cbi, has urged candidates vying to replace theresa may to rule out a no—deal brexit. 44% reduction in car production, headquarters leaving the country, you don't need to look into the future to see the impact of no deal. mexico criticises president trump's decision to impose rising tariffs on all its goods from june. the lawyerfor shamima begum has written to the home secretary, accusing authorities of failing to protect herfrom being "groomed" by so—called islamic state. new figures from the gp‘s magazine pulse suggest nearly 140