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coming to the melania trump will be coming to the residency of the us ambassador in central london, where we are. welcome to viewers on bbc two, joining viewers on the bbc news channel as we watch air force one about to come to a standstill at sta nsted about to come to a standstill at stansted airport, about to come to a standstill at sta nsted airport, touching about to come to a standstill at stansted airport, touching down in the last few minutes, bringing on board, of course, the 45th president of the united states, donald trump, along with the first lady, melania trump. as he was in the airjust before he touched down, donald trump tweeted about the mayor of london, the city in which he will spend the
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next two days, saying sadiq khan, who by all accounts has done a terriblejob of who by all accounts has done a terrible job of mayor of london, has been foolishly nasty to the visiting president of the united states, by far the most important ally of the united kingdom. he is a stone cold loser who should focus on crime in london, not me, said the president. so in typicalfashion, firing off e—mails in the morning and setting offa chain e—mails in the morning and setting off a chain of reaction. one wonders how those comments in particular will affect the next couple of days or the ceremony that is expected today with the royal family. tomorrow, much more of a focus on politics and business, but big protests are planned not only in london, but elsewhere in the uk for tomorrow, similar to those protests you will have seen last year and what was a working visit. this of course is a state visit. so the tone
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is somewhat different. the controversy is pretty similar. the steps a re controversy is pretty similar. the steps are moving up and out of the plane. donald trump's four adult children are on this visit with him as well, although not on board air force one. we understand some of them have already arrived. and from what he has been saying in interviews and tweeting, and from the ambassador here at his residence behind us, the president is very much looking forward to the state pa rt much looking forward to the state part of this visit, the ceremony beginning at buckingham palace, where he will be greeted by the queen, the prince of wales and the
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duchess of cornwall. he will inspect a guard of honour over there and have lunch. he will also go with the duke of york to visit the tomb of the unknown warrior at westminster abbey and later will have tea with prince charles and the duchess of cornwall at clarence house. these are the kind of images that the president will set great store by the consumption back in the united states. the door of air force one is opening. of course, in his last visit, we only saw the president travelling by air on board the marine corps helicopter marine one once he had landed in the uk. but we will see there based on the roads this time, as it is known, —— the
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beast, that huge reinforced armoured vehicle which will be driving him around. the welcome party are gathered on the tarmac. the president arriving pretty much bang on schedule here at stansted airport. for this state visit, which will include of course, they said they, the commemorations in portsmouth to mark the 75th anniversary the d—day landings.
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—— on the third day. so we think once the president gets off the plane, it would just be a short journey before he arrives here in central london, where he will spend several hours before going to the palace. nearly a year on from his last visit in july last palace. nearly a year on from his last visit injuly last summer, when he met the queen at windsor castle. this visit was announced by buckingham palace in april, but has been planned for much longer than that. the white house says it will reaffirm, in their words, the steadfast and special relationship between the united states and the united kingdom. that term special
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relationship was first used by winston churchill, a leader of whom the president is a huge fan. theresa may called it an opportunity to strengthen our already close relationship in areas such as trade, investment and security. and she said to discuss how those ties can be built on in the years ahead, although not, of course, with her as prime minister, with a new leader of the conservative party and prime minister to be chosen next month. just a reminder that this is only the third state visit of a us
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president, although 13 presidents have been here during the reign of her majesty the queen. up until now, only george w bush and barack obama have been given this particular honour. but you may recall that when theresa may one invited donald trump for this state visit on behalf of the queen back in 2017, more than 1.8 million people signed a petition calling for it not to go ahead. but here it is, beginning. it seems it was really only a matter of when rather than if, despite the level of
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opposition. but looking at the other pa rt opposition. but looking at the other part of this visit away from the royal ceremony and the politics, there is the participation of the united states in the d—day commemorations, a very important moment for those two countries who, as part of the allies defeated the nazis on the beach in normandy. as such, many people accept that the president of the united states should be there, that this is something which is much bigger than individual personalities. reflecting on that shared sacrifice 75 years ago.
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the guard of honour, waiting to greet the president and the first lady at stansted airport. and in the days running up to this visit, the us ambassador, woody johnson, has been tweeting about the shared relationship between the two countries. emphasising that special relationship, although there has been much discussion, especially since donald trump has been elected president and even before them during barack obama's presidency, about the nature of that relationship. although donald trump,
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party. and you can also see the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, greeting donald trump. i wonder what he thinks about mr trump's comments on borisjohnson, he thinks about mr trump's comments on boris johnson, saying he thinks about mr trump's comments on borisjohnson, saying that he thinks he would make a very good prime minister. chatting to collea g u es prime minister. chatting to colleagues and commentators this morning, the view has been that actually, those comments will not make a great deal of difference in the grand scheme of things, to who is eventually elected as the new conservative leader and prime minister. but very typical of donald trump to say that he won't say
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something, and that he makes a comment on it. his administration official said he wouldn't be weighing in on the subject this time round, but of course, he has done exactly that. the president saluting that guard of honour waiting for him on the tarmac at stansted. there are now making their way to the marine corps helicopter, marine one, which will ta ke helicopter, marine one, which will take him swiftly here to winfield house, where he will spend a few hours before going to buckingham
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palace. one wonders if he was to meet with the likes of borisjohnson 01’ meet with the likes of borisjohnson or perhaps nigel farage, whether it would be here at winfield house that those meetings might happen. it would seem like the obvious place for something like that to happen when you look at the president'sschedule over the next few days, but let's see. nothing has been confirmed officially, but much speculation. we can talk now to my colleague lorna gordon, who is there at sta nsted colleague lorna gordon, who is there at stansted airport. lorna, a fairly brief greeting and arrival ceremony there at stansted before the president boarded marine one, as we have just seen. we could see woody johnson and jeremy hunt in the welcome party. yes, air force one
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touched down on schedule around nine o'clock this morning, just a quick taxi to this private area at sta nsted taxi to this private area at stansted airport. taxi to this private area at sta nsted airport. there taxi to this private area at stansted airport. there you see the doors of marine one going up a quick, smooth operation this morning, just a couple of minutes for air force one to taxi to a stop here in this area of the airport. a few minutes later, the doors at the front of air force one opened and then of course, that moment when president trump and his wife melania stood at the top of the steps. a quick wave before they headed down on to british soil to be greeted by the waiting dignitaries, amongst them woodyjohnson, the waiting dignitaries, amongst them woody johnson, the the waiting dignitaries, amongst them woodyjohnson, the us ambassador, and jeremy hunt, the foreign secretary. it is pretty noisy now and i think it is about to get more noisy still is the engines on those helicopters kick in. there
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are three tunics here as well —— three chinooks. there's helicopters arrived shortly after eight o'clock. inafew arrived shortly after eight o'clock. in a few short moments, they are likely to take off to head into central london with president trump and the first lady melania trump on board. yes, lorna, there are always two of theirs aircraft that travel together when the president is on board these marine corps helicopters. obviously very noisy where you are. we we were keeping our eyes towards the skies here in central london to see the
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arrival of the president at winfield house. lorna, i hope you can still hear me? marine one is shortly to take off. it is hard to hear you, it has to be said, here at stansted. there is a lot of movement in this area where air force one has come to a stop. behind me, you will see those two white hot helicopters. and after the site, they three chinooks have also started up their engines. so i can't hear you, but hopefully you can hear me. it would just be a shortjourney into central london. there is a back—up motorcade here as well for the president. the beast, that famous limousine, is likely to be among them. that is hearing case, for any reason, the president has
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the make his journey for any reason, the president has the make hisjourney by for any reason, the president has the make his journey by car. for any reason, the president has the make hisjourney by car. but there we go, marine one is now taxiing. it is likely to take off in the next few moments. a lot of police here today, a big security operation, secret service agents as well. you get a sense of the logistics involved in a state visit to like this when you come to sta nsted. to like this when you come to stansted. 200 to like this when you come to sta nsted. 200 people, to like this when you come to stansted. 200 people, the ambassador said, were involved ahead of time. i think more have become involved as the days have got closer to the president touching down on british soil. so those are the logistics. we have also had a sense of the politics, the president tweeting on that transatlantic journey, make comments about sadiq khan, the mayor of london. a little later, we will get a sense of the pomp as the queen
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welcomes him to buckingham palace. marine one is now taxiing to the runway. there are two helicopters there. only one of them is designated marine one. that is the one with the president on board. and then the chinooks, we expect to follow shortly after, carrying support staff and other secret service agents. they are starting to taxi as well. it is just a short journey to central london. should ta ke journey to central london. should take 15 or 20 minutes to get to the ambassador‘s residents, winfield house. the honour guard is still in place, struggling with the wind, it has to be said. their hats rolling across the runway. a windy day today
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here at stansted, being chased by two security agents. but other than that, this has run very smoothly here today, landing on time, just a couple of minutes for air force one to taxi round to this position, at the private terminals of stansted airport, away from the main terminals, the reason being that it minimises disruption. the chinooks are also now heading to the runway. there we go, taking off for that short journey into there we go, taking off for that shortjourney into central london. 0k, shortjourney into central london. ok, lorna, i hope you can hear me 110w. ok, lorna, i hope you can hear me now. well done for making yourself heard over the noise of marine one and there's other aircraft at sta nsted and there's other aircraft at stansted airport.
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and there's other aircraft at sta nsted airport. we and there's other aircraft at stansted airport. we will be listening out for them here at winfield house, where the president will be arriving in the next few minutes. before he had even touched down on uk soil, he was tweeting about the mayor of london, sadiq khan. let's just show you those tweets again now. the two have had a not comfortable relationship on twitter over the course of donald trump's presidency. he said: sadiq khan, who by all accounts has done a terrible job as mayor of london, has been foolishly "nasty" to the visiting president of the united states, by far the most important ally of the united kingdom. he is a stone cold loser who should focus on crime in london, not me. and then he tweeted:
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and incompetent mayor of nyc, de blasio, who has also done a terriblejob — only half his height. in any event, i look forward to being a great friend to the united kingdom, and am looking very much forward to my visit. landing now! our assistant political editor — norman smith — is in westminster. so so he says he is looking forward to being a friend of the united kingdom, and he makes comments like that about the mayor of the city he is spending the next two days in. what do you make of all of that?” would like to say i'm surprised, but iam not, because would like to say i'm surprised, but i am not, because we know trump has no regard for normal diplomatic niceties. we have seen that in the fa ct niceties. we have seen that in the fact that he has waded into the tory leadership contest. he seems to have waded into brexit and now he has got stuck into sadiq khan. i am also not
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surprised because let's be honest, these two figures how loathe each other. this is a political grudge match with a g, which has now been simmering for the best part of three yea rs, simmering for the best part of three years, going back to when the president introduced that travel ban on some muslim countries. sadiq khan was critical of that, questioning whether the president really understood islam. and then the president challenged sadiq khan to an iq test, and then it went to a level further in the wake of the london bridge attack in which the president was pretty critical of sadiq khan's response to that. and yesterday, we had sadiq khan, on the eve of the president because my visit, comparing the president'slanguage and attitude to that of 20th—century dictators, pigeonholing in with other figures like marine le pen and nigel farage as part of a new right emerging in
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europe. so in that sort of climate, perhaps no surprise. but the timing is extraordinary, because the president has almost checked it out like a little hand grenade before he has arrived, which is notjust disrespectful, but shows his disregard for sadiq khan, the mayor of the city he is visiting. but hey, thatis of the city he is visiting. but hey, that is the president. that is the way he operates. maybe we should just become accustomed to it, although i have to say, i was just sent an e—mail by oxford university, who have done a survey of all the tweets the president has done. perhaps we shouldn't feel offended because apparently, we are, the uk is in 15th place in terms of foreign countries referenced by the president. only 1% of his tweets we re president. only 1% of his tweets were about britain. most of them tend to be about russia or north korea or china, so we are not the only ones on the receiving end of
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president trump's quite opinionated tweets, shall we say. yes, although we shall never perhaps become accustomed to that type of discourse. what do you think it will do to the atmospherics around this visit? obviously he has lots of political meetings tomorrow. it's going to be a difficult visit to some extent, because obviously, there will be no doubt significant protests about it. there are the political difficulties. we know jeremy corbyn is not going to the banquet. vince cable is not going to the banquet. there are tensions over important political issues, whether it be about the middle east peace process or iran or huawei or climate change. so in the backdrop, there are difficulties, there is no getting away from it. but my sense is that within government, there is a desperate desire for this to go off as smoothly as possible, even
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though the president is arriving at a moment of maximum political wea kness a moment of maximum political weakness in britain, when we are very much on the back foot diplomatically and internationally. so they will want to make it as smooth as possible, given those difficult circumstances. norman, thank you. we await the arrival of marine one here at winfield house, which is the residence of the us ambassador in regents pack, where the president will be staying over the president will be staying over the next couple of days. now let me hang due to my colleaguejoanna gosling, who is close to buckingham palace, where much of the pomp and ceremony of today will take place. yes, this is where the president and first lady will be arriving at midday. they will go first to winfield house. that is where they will be staying. normally, guests on a state visit would be staying at windsor castle or buckingham palace,
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but they are not staying here because there is currently some renovation work under way. i am not sure if you can make out the scaffolding in the distance. you can see a crane. that is where their scaffolding around that part of the building. you can also see the flag flying and you might be able to make out on the rooftop what look like some some security operatives on top of the roof, using binoculars to look around. on the ground, we can see lots of police officers out and about. it is a £25 million security operation in force for this three—day state visit. let's run through the schedule, because president trump and the first lady are currently making their way from sta nsted are currently making their way from stansted airport are currently making their way from sta nsted airport in are currently making their way from stansted airport in essex to winfield house in central london, the residents of the us ambassador, woodyjohnson. the queen and prince of wales and duchess of cornwall
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will officially welcome the president and mrs trump. after a private lunch with the president and first lady her majesty will invite the pair to view a special exhibition in the picture gallery, which includes items of historical significance to the united states. the duke of york will then join mr and mrs trump on a visit to westminster abbey, president will lay a wreath at the grave of the unknown warrior. the president and first lady will thenjoin unknown warrior. the president and first lady will then join the prince of wales and the duchess of cornwall for tea at clarence house. in the evening the queen will host a state banquet at buckingham palace, where she and the president will both make speeches at the start of the meal. the president and first lady will then return to the us ambassador‘s residents, winfield house, and from p°mp residents, winfield house, and from pomp and ceremony to the nitty—gritty. tomorrow morning, the president and theresa may will co—host a breakfast meeting at st james's palace with senior business leaders from both the us and uk. the president and first lady will then travel to downing street, where they will have lunch the prime minister
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and held talks. in the evening president and mrs trump will host a return dinner at winfield house. the prince of wales and the duchess of cornwall will attend on behalf of the queen. on wednesday the queen and the prince of wales, president trump and the first lady will travel from central london to portsmouth, where they will attend the commemoration is at southsea common to mark the 75th anniversary of the d—day landings. they will be joined by300 d—day landings. they will be joined by 300 d—day veterans. the queen will formally bid farewell to the residents and mrs trump in portsmouth, who were then depart late in the day and travel to ireland. let me bring in duncan larcombe, former royal editor at the sun. soa larcombe, former royal editor at the sun. so a very busy schedule. obviously, politics has been put forefront by that tweet that the president sentjust minutes before touching down. but it is not supposed to be about the politics,
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it's about the pomp and ceremony. yeah, ok, he is the third president to have a full state visit. so today is kind of royal day, if you like. the red carpet, and all the bells and whistles, leading up to the state banquet tonight. what we understand from donald trump is that he isa understand from donald trump is that he is a big admirer of the queen. obviously, they met last year, but this is much more of a set piece from a location where i am sure they will have to be on their best behaviour. what are the consideration is given to inviting someone for a state visit? he is only the third us president to be invited, and it was pretty controversial when the invitation was extended. it has taken this long for it to happen. he is the marmite president. everyone has an opinion, they either like him or they love him. it is really the foreign & commonwealth office, not the queen who has invited him. the queen will obviously host him and welcome him
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for her, it's not about the personality. this is about the office of the president of the united states. for the protesters that they are expecting, it's about the personality, trump is a character, and what he stands for. so the formal occasion will not be political. it will be interesting. when he has lunch with the prince of wales today, they kind of occupy different spaces when it comes to theissue different spaces when it comes to the issue of the environment. so it will be an interesting test of prince charles, who said last year when he turned 70 that when he becomes king, he will not be the meddling prince, he will perform a role like the queen will today. so will he bend donald trump's here, or will he bend donald trump's here, or will he bend donald trump's here, or will he just gloss over the issue of the environment? and the duchess of sussex, an american. it might have felt a natural thing for the two of them to meet, but they are not going to be meeting. she is still not resuming full duties after the
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birth. no, she has a good excuse, four weeks after giving birth to baby archie. it's almost a bit of a shame, because donald trump is coming infor shame, because donald trump is coming in for the first time, we have an american in the royal family. i think if it weren't for the fact that she is on maternity leave, there is no question in my mind that she would attend the banquet and would obviously welcome donald trump, even though before she was a royal, she famously described him asa was a royal, she famously described him as a misogynist and a divisive character. and she would leave the country if he was elected. well, she has left the country and he is following her over here! there has been controversy around him possibly saying she was not stay. he gave an interview and he said he didn't realise she was nasty. donald trump has now said he didn't say that. that is kind of what he often does, he backtracks and denies saying things. it wasn't
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and denies saying things. it wasn't a very helpful thing to say on the eve of a state visit, donald trump today has to go and meet prince harry! who knows what they will talk about? how does it work with the sort of corralling when someone comes along and they are face—to—face with the royals and someone like him can say stuff that obviously causes offence, sometimes it's controversial? prince harry, for example, i think he'll probably get on very well with donald trump, he has a great sense of humour, they might have a massive fight, you never know! but i don't think it will be a problem. harry is not going to criticise donald trump, every member of the royal family will be on their best behaviour. prince andrew is playing quite a pivotal role, they have golf in common. yes, prince andrew, they
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will go to westminster abbey and lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown warrior, i covered the first tour of prince charles and camilla and donald trump turned up to a dinner so prince charles has met donald trump before he was the president, so it will be interesting to see how that conversation changes from a famous businessman attending a gala dinner, to a president on a state visit to britain. thank you, duncan. we can talk now to the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, who you may have seen greeting donald trump at sta nsted a short have seen greeting donald trump at stansted a short while ago when he landed. thank you forjoining us. he's here on a visit and obviously quite an unusual time, because the prime minister has resigned, standing down at the end of the week, and just minutes before he touched down, he tweeted about sadiq khan. have you seen that tweet? what
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you make of it? just about. was that a question to me? sorry.” you make of it? just about. was that a question to me? sorry. i think we have some sound difficulties. i hope you can hear my! there was a tweet that minutes before donald trump touched down, he sent out about sadiq khan was the what's your reaction to that? well, you know, this is a president who we have got used to being very controversial and very combative. but he has made the comments he has me, i agree with him that it's totally inappropriate for the labour party to be boycotting this incredibly important visited. this is the president of the united states, we a re this is the president of the united states, we are celebrating the d—day landings, we had a million american servicemen stationed in the uk willing to risk their lives for our liberty, for our democracy and values and i think it should be
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above party politics. i think it's disgraceful, not least because today in the newspapers the labour party itself is being accused of turning a blind eye to sexism at the labour party hq, to anti—semitism by its candidate in peterborough. so we have to put these things aside and remember this is a very special moment in our relationship, celebrating 75 years of peace and prosperity because of that partnership between the uk and the usa. but it has been a controversial state visit, only the third us president to come. i hear you saying it's important to rise above the politics of it all, and this is supposed to be about much more than politics, but innovatively there is a lot of politics caught up on this visit. —— inevitably. a lot of politics caught up on this visit. -- inevitably. there is, but i think it's also important to remember this is a state visit, so
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the president is being welcomed by her majesty the queen, so this goes beyond the relationships between two politicians, between a prime minister of the uk and the president of the united states, it is celebrating the relationship between our two countries. why does that matter day? this isn't about history, we have a much more autocratic china, much more aggressive russia, and the world is looking at the uk and the usa as the two principal guardians of democratic values across the world and they are saying, what are you going to do in this changed world order to stand up to the values —— for the values that matter to us all? things like the fact that you challenge me freely as part of our free media in the uk about what i stand for is a politician, this is an important value and it's what both our countries stand for. that's what we have to show the world that we are going to fight hard to defend. when president trump arrived, obviously you shared a few words, what did you talk about?”
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said to him that we are going to put ona said to him that we are going to put on a great show for him, because america is our closest ally and we are delighted he is bringing his family with him, and he mentioned to me some of his feelings about the mayor of london, which i saw subsequently he had just tweeted out as well so that was obviously on his mind. sorry, i missed what you said, just tell me again what he said to you? well, ijust said he mentioned some of his strong views about the mayor of london, which i noticed after i had spoken to him because he also tweeted it out, he must have done that just also tweeted it out, he must have done thatjust before he got off the plane. so what exactly did he say to you? i'm not going to go into exactly what he said, but i think if you look at his tweet, he wasn't
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exactly saying that he will be inviting sadiq khan for royal treatment at the white house anytime soon! did he repeat the sort of language in the tweet? it was incredibly strong language to come from a president who people know is controversial but just from a president who people know is controversial butjust minutes before touching down to put out a tweet in which he describes the mayor of london, the city he's coming to visit for three days, as a stone called loser, that was quite exceptional, did he use those words when he spoke to you? i'm sorry, i'm not going to go into a private conversation with the president of the united states! but i can say that what he said to me was consistent with what was in his tweet, let's put it like that. he is not always good at observing protocol, do you have concerns this could end up, they could be controversy ahead on this visit? there is always controversy around president trump's visits anywhere,
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that's part of the deal with president trump. but underneath it isa president trump. but underneath it is a great affection for britain, a great understanding of the importance of our relationship, great respect for the cooperation between our military, our security services, our intelligence services, and an understanding that that relationship is the foundation of much that is so important in the world today. is that affection reflected, though, in the fact that it's being said thatjewish officials are warning that intelligence sharing between the us and uk may be at risk? —— us officials. if the uk goes ahead with using huawei for 5g. officials. if the uk goes ahead with using huawei for 56. we have made it clear we would never take a decision that raced our ability to share intelligence with the united states and our partners. we will take a decision in the british national interest at the appropriate time. of
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course we listened to what the americans have said, we take that on board very carefully, but we will make our decision in the british national interest. so, that means donald trump trumps huawei, does it? it means we will do what is right for our country. part of what is right for our country is to have the closest military intelligence relationship with the united states, we don't always take the same view on everything but we always listen to their concerns very carefully. jeremy hunt, thank you very much indeed. we arejust jeremy hunt, thank you very much indeed. we are just looking at the skies, where you can see just in the centre there, marine force one, bringing donald trump from stansted to london, staying in winfield house, the residence of the us ambassador in regents park, it has sizeable grounds, the second largest private garden after buckingham
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palace in london. but in spite of that, they have extended quite dramatically around winfield house the security cordon. there is an incredible level of security everywhere the president is going, as you would expect. he is not going to be getting up close and personal, really, with people on this visit, it's very much that everything will be happening behind closed doors. so he's heading to the us ambassador‘s residence where he will spend a couple of hours before coming on marine one care to buckingham palace, where there will be a formal reception. let's bring in our royal correspondent. we are waiting here in the sunshine, which is nice, it has been a bit mixed! but crowds starting to come out, in terms of how much they will actually see other president, it's not going to be much? on state visits we are used to seeing the big carriage
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procession to buckingham palace, nothing like this time. that's nothing like this time. that's nothing to do with donald trump per se, it's to do with the security around him not wanting that level of exposure for him in london. so he will go straight into buckingham palace. so the crowds that come here, many of them would have been coming for the changing of the guard. but they will not get to see the president, not getting any sense of what is going on behind the scenes within the palace walls. there is a very busy schedule today involving several members of the royal family. but not the duchess of sussex, the one american now in the midst of our british royal family, she will not be meeting the american president. that is unusual, but she is just president. that is unusual, but she isjust a month into maternity leave with baby archie. it's helpful in many ways diplomatically because she has been critical of donald trump in the past. we are going to go
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straight to annita, who is at winfield house. joanna, thank you very much. we can hear helicopter sounds, but we cannot actually see, although we have been scanning the skies from our position, we haven't been able to spot marine one. but we think possibly the president has just landed. i can see a helicopter in the skies behind me, that is definitely not marine one, but i think it is to possible that marine one has just landed here think it is to possible that marine one hasjust landed here at think it is to possible that marine one has just landed here at winfield house, where the president will spend the next few hours before he goes to buckingham palace to be greeted by the queen, the prince of wales and the duchess of cornwall. of course, much of the focus of the beginning of this visit is around these tweets he wrote just before he landed on uk soil, attacking the mayoral of london, sadiq khan. ——
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lee mair. who himself has called him an example of one of the most egregious examples of a growing global threat, referring to the rise of the far right, then donald trump responding saying sadiq khan, who by all accounts it in a terrible job as mayor of london, has been foolishly nasty to the visiting president of the united states. joining me here at winfield house is doctor clodagh harrington, senior lecturer in american politics at de montfort university. very good to have you with us, you work with us last year during the working visit. this is a state visit, i just want to get your reaction to those tweets from donald trump. well, i think donald trump is a master of controlling the narrative, and he times his tweets to get everybody speaking about he wants to speak about at any particular time, he's done that in the most amazing way this morning.
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and it's a way in many ways of deflecting attention from the bigger more serious issues to do with what's going on in the us, to do with what might happen with the uk trade deal, the nhs, all sorts of things. there are some big issues to be attended to and he is very good at people to think about what he wants them to think about. at people to think about what he wants them to think aboutm at people to think about what he wants them to think about. it sounds as though you think you might be making more controversial comments over the course of this visit. how nervous do you think uk officials will be about the potentials for that? i think it's going to be a long three days for all of those people. logistically it is a big deal anyway, even if everything goes beautifully, it's a very big deal to organise everything. then there is the added layer of stress of every time he speaks or he tweets, you do not know what is coming. for some people, that is really an attractive trait, he is a rule breaker, that is
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why so many people support him, but for others it's a big headache. i'm just hearing some reaction from a spokesperson for sadeek khan, who says these childish insults are beneath the president of the united states. —— sadiq khan. you are saying it's not surprising that donald trump makes controversial comments. in his role as commander—in—chief, part of the reason he is here is to commemorate the 75th anniversary of d—day, you think these tweets are inappropriate in that sense? they are anyway but the fact is, his primary role is to be commander—in—chief of the united states and he's coming here for a very serious and sombre commemoration this week, of the d—day landings, and i think he needs to be more presidential in that sense, particularly on the day, just to maybe leave his phone behind. but this is a president who is all about the controversial rather than the
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diplomatic. he is, and he is all about style, perhaps more than substance we might say and i think this is more about the style and the pomp and ceremony, of which there will be lots, but probably put a light on substance. in a way that's not bad because it means he can come and have what he wanted, which is the three days of ceremonial recognition, then he can leave again and maybe there will be nothing concrete that comes of it. one of the players in the key relationship with the us and the uk, theresa may is stepping down, she will be replaced by next month, does it undercut what can be achieved between those two individuals as we are expecting in meetings tomorrow? it does to an extent. the relationship rolls on regardless, of course, but it is odd timing, i would say, before a state visit.
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obviously theresa may didn't know how this would play out at the time of the invite, but certainly, it is not going to add any gravitas to the proceedings. also there is the issue of the personal rapport between the leaders, sometimes that works really well, other times it's quite strange, other times it is muted. my personal favourite is for example when ronald reagan came in the 19805, when ronald reagan came in the 1980s, he seemed to have a real genuine rapport with the queen, it wasn't forced or stilted, it was very natural and a pleasure to watch. this time round, i'm not sure how that would play out, i think the relationship between donald trump and theresa may has been not the smoothest. clodagh harrington, thank you, you will be with us throughout the morning but for the moment thank you very much. we can talk now to the former head of counterterrorism at the met police. good morning to you. just talk to us first of all
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about the security around this visit, we know the bill last year for the working visit was something around £18 million for all the security surrounding that particular visit, could be more this time and it's a huge operation? it is, of course, the police, certainly the london police, are very used to dealing with state visits, there is nothing new for them. but donald trump brings extra issues. what we have seen recently will also cause the police more concerns, where we have seen peaceful demonstrations, very difficult to contain. so yes, the bill is huge, it is always going to get bigger whenever you get a state visit and of course donald trump isa state visit and of course donald trump is a particular issue. and do you think the comments he's made this morning about sadiq khan, will those go into energise the protesters tomorrow?” those go into energise the protesters tomorrow? i think this is theissue, protesters tomorrow? i think this is the issue, it's the protesters that the issue, it's the protesters that the police will be most concerned about because they are very
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difficult to contain. but there is always also the threat of security to the man and his family, so the police have to do a great deal of work around building island sites around the individuals so they can remain safe, then of course the disruption that can be caused to not only donald trump and his entourage but also the rest of london by demonstrations, that's considerable as well. all this has to be dealt by as well. all this has to be dealt by a police force that is at full stretch already. yes, i mean, just going into the background a little more, how long will the discussions have been going on between the secret service and police here about the details of this visit? as soon as it would have been known, the dates would have been said, there discussions would have started. but the met police are very used to dealing with this kind of visit. a few years ago we had the chinese president and one after the other
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have been to the uk, so plans are in place, each one has to be separately risk assessed and of course, the us president does bring a massive entourage with him, which actually changes the dynamic as well. all these things have to be built into these things have to be built into the plan but it is a tried and tested plan, but the demonstrations are the thing i think that will be worrying the police. and of course, last year during the working visit, when the president wasn't at specific locations like here at winfield house for example or at windsor castle, last year, when the president... this brings a new dimension to the security. the fact he's in central london does cause different issues. but london is used to this and it's fairly simple to
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section areas off. the vehicle motorcade is another issue that you don't have to deal with normally, but all these things are quite manageable. it's just the but all these things are quite manageable. it'sjust the sheer fact of the anti—trump demonstrations and how big those are, that will be the biggest concern. ok, chris phillips, former head of counterterrorism at the met police, thank you for your time. although we have been looking upwards to the skies above us at winfield house, and we certainly heard lots of aircraft sounds, we didn't see marine one for ourselves but we do understand it has landed in the grounds of winfield house, that huge garden attached to the residence of the us ambassador, and has in fact departed from their already. so, the president and the first lady will be spending the next few hours here before they go to buckingham palace, where my colleaguejoanna buckingham palace, where my colleague joanna gosling is. yes, thank you very much, annita. let me
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tell you there has been some reaction from the mayor of london, sadiq khan to that tweet that the president sentjust before he actually touched down at stansted on air force one. well, sadiq khan's spokesperson has responded to that, saying childish insults should be beneath the president. so a bit of a spat already. obviously donald trump knew exactly what he was doing sending that tweet just minutes exactly what he was doing sending that tweetjust minutes before touchdown. i was speaking to the foreign secretary a little while ago, who said it was exactly what the president spoke to him about when they had a short conversation just after the president and first lady off the plane and jeremy hunt wouldn't say exactly what donald trump said, but he said it was similar language. that has kicked off this visit, but this visit shouldn't be all about politics because it's a state visit, it is
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the queen who will be hosting the president at buckingham palace, along with other members of the royalfamily along with other members of the royal family later. not hosting along with other members of the royalfamily later. not hosting in the sense of the president actually staying here, you might be able to see on those pictures there is some scaffolding at buckingham palace, so the president will not stay here, which is where a president would normally stay on a state visit, instead he is staying at the residence other us ambassador, not far away, and will offer a very sumptuous place for the president to stay, beautiful mansion in the grounds of regents park with the second largest private garden in london after buckingham palace and it is there were donald trump will be hosting the royalfamily, with the return dinner tomorrow. but let's talk now with our royal corresponded. this is the focus, around midday, this is where donald trump will be coming, landing on the grounds of buckingham palace in
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marine one. the biggest private garden in london, he will land in the buckingham palace garden, where he will be greeted by the prince of wales and the duchess of cornwall, they will walk him across to meet they will walk him across to meet the queen, there will be some ceremonial business in the garden, inspecting the guard of honour, the grenadier guards before they go in for a private lunch, that will include the duke of sussex, prince harry, but not his american wife, megan. there is a choreography to these state visits, the same kind of thing happens each time. after lunch, the president and first lady will get to tour some objects from the royal collection that have a cultural link to the united states before the president and first lady go to westminster abbey escorted by prince andrew, the duke of york, to lay a wreath on the grave of the unknown warrior before coming back this evening for the grand state banquet. we can just have a look at
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a picture of marine one landing at winfield house. it was tweeted out by our correspondent, who says coming into land. the minaret of london's central mosque to the left. that is indeed where the president is going to be staying. these things are very carefully choreographed but it's often unexpected that takes the headlines. we have already had that twitter row and thinking back to the last state visit, barack obama and michelle obama, it was the unscripted months that, michelle obama giving the queen a little hard the things we remember in the end, so who knows what lies in store? there is a real protocol and choreography to a state visit, every detail is planned in advance, but unexpected things happen, particularly with donald trump! but last time round when the obamas were
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here, that moment where michelle obama instinctively put her arm around the queen, obviously no one touches the queen normally but she said afterward it was just a sort of human instinct, they had been standing for a long time, wondering how long it would go 1a, she put her arm round her, not realising it was such a breach of protocol, then at the state banquet, president obama mistimed his toes, those are the moment people will remember. —— make toast. it is always in predictability with donald trump but there is no one better at diplomacy than the queen, she has been there, done that and seen it all. and this is going to be playing huge in the united states. something donald trump will be well aware of as he eyes the next presidential race. no question. he has spoken about his admiration for the queen, his scottish heritage, he is going to absolutely scottish heritage, he is going to a bsolutely love scottish heritage, he is going to absolutely love the pomp and ceremony in the status that comes
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with a state visit, that will really excite him about this trip rather than the politics. so events today and the banquet tonight are really going to matter to him and how they pay back home and how it looks to see the president walking with the queen, toasting the queen in one of the grand rooms at buckingham palace, that is what will really matter to him today. thank you very much. well, lots of police here outside buckingham palace, it's going to be a little while before the president comes here, he is due about midday. a very busy schedule throughout the day. in terms of the public actually getting up close to the president, that's not really going to happen, because everything that will be happening is behind closed doors. there will be demonstration that have been planned for this visit, and there is a very big security operation under way, costing £25 million. there will be plenty of coverage here, live from buckingham palace and from winfield house, where the president is
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hello. it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. president trump touched down in the uk for his state visit an hour ago — and he kicked things off with one of his trademark of his trademark controversial tweets, as a "foolishly nasty, stone cold loser". protests are planned across the uk — including in london, where a bigger version of this trump baby balloon is due to fly over the capital. also — could this woman be britain's next prime minister? 13 conservative mps now want the job. esther mchy is live in therstudio — she describes herself as a problem
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