track and support people. so some people on those numbers are actually distorted in the way you are putting that board. why should someone who mislead parliament get the top job? hello. it's 10 o'clock, i'm why should someone who mislead parliament get the topjob? and what are you talking about on this victoria derbyshire. president trump touched down instance? when you are work and in the uk for his state pensions secretary you told the visit an hour ago — and he kicked house of commons that a report on things off with one of his trademark of his trademark controversial universal credit from the na 05ede your government, you should continue with the roll—out of universal tweets, credit and do it faster, when the report said nothing of the sort. what happened here was, on the as a "foolishly nasty, stone cold loser". protests are planned across the uk — including in london, com plete what happened here was, on the complete substance of the document, where a bigger version of this i was correct, hence i kept myjob. trump baby balloon is due to fly over the capital. meaning that what the substance was, also — could this woman be britain's next prime minister? where they said they had given a 13 conservative mps report and they couldn't have taken into account the substantial changes we had done because the report was now want the job. done earlier than the full substantial document to support had esther mchy is live in therstudio — come through. that's not true. yes, she describes herself as a problem solver and dog lover; we'll it is. can i finish? i got the

ask her about her time as a minister and cabinet minister ..and how she could solve substance correct. hence, i still a problem like brexit. and love island is back! had a job. but on some of the words, the uk's most popular reality tv show is facing criticism for its lack of diversity. i had said they were not exactly the one of last year's stars correct words, so i put my hand up tells us she agrees... i guess everyone is talking about more diversity, straightaway, i asked if i could different body types. come to the floor of the house and when i was in there, i know there was a lot of stuff correct what i had said. i'm pretty outside about being the only dark—skinned girl, but it didn't really faze me much. much the only mp who has ever done i think it would be great to see more, like, that. so when you are talking about, different races in there. do people trust politicians with it's because most do not apologise i did. you are talking about trust... and laura anderson — let's be honest... you only want to another of last year's contestants — is here. we'll ask her whether she thinks apologise because the head of the the use of lie detector tests should be banned on reality tv shows. national audit office released an open letter saying you had got it wrong in parliament. he then went to apologise. again, you have got that wrong. actually you have to get permission before you make a statement in the house so i had already got permission to do an apology. so it's just already got permission to do an apology. so it'sjust a coincidence hello. that on that same day the national

welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. audit office released this open letter? well, then so be it, but i had already put it in and i was first, a summary of the news. doing the apology. so there is a correction there, victoria. so what president trump has arrived idid, correction there, victoria. so what i did, which now i understand why in london on his long—delayed state visit to britain, accompanied by his wife, most mp5 don't ever put their hand melania, and family. up most mp5 don't ever put their hand over the next three days, up and admit to a mistake, because he will meet the royal family all that happens is that when you and politicians and is expected to discuss climate change come on to do interviews, people and the chinese technology firm, talk about it. that's why most mp5 huawei, with cabinet ministers. mr trump was met at stansted airport by the foreign are not trusted... sorry, loads of secretary, jeremy hunt. the president is being welcomed by her majesty the queen. this goes mp5 have said sorry, including ministers. i can list them if you beyond the relationships between two want. and i did it on the floor of the house and that was the correct politicians, between a prime thing to do. but at the same time, minister of the uk and the president what i would like to talk about, and of the united states. it's actually celebrating the relationship between obviously you don't, this is the 3.5 oui’ celebrating the relationship between our two countries. and why does that matter today? because this isn't million people we have now helped just about history. we have a much into a job. under labour the more autocratic china, a much more aggressive russia. the world is households where nobody had worked looking at the uk and the usa as the had doubled. youth unemployment is two principal guardians of now 50% less, that's a loss of young democratic values across the world, people going forward —— met lots —— and they are saying, what are you going to be doing in this changed

world order to stand for the values lots, we a re that matter to all of us so much. people going forward —— met lots —— lots, we are helping people with social mobility, giving them a step some of the candidates in the conservative leadership race up social mobility, giving them a step up and a life that they can go have been urged to step aside forward with and cherish. that's by the communities secretary, what i'm about. let's talk about brexit. you have sent you will take james brokenshire. the uk out of the eu on the 31st of there are 13 mps in the running for the job, but mr brokenshire believes there should 0ctober even if there is no deal. is be fewer contenders, so the contest can be settled that a cast—iron guarantee? 0ctober even if there is no deal. is that a cast-iron guarantee? we have quickly and the party can move on. to be out on the 31st of october, rescue teams in india have resumed the search for eight climbers — thatis to be out on the 31st of october, that is the date we need to be out. including fourfrom the uk — missing in the himalayas. the group began climbing deal, or no deal? that is the date india's second highest mountain, nanda devi, almost three weeks ago, we need to have left by. can you but failed to return to base camp. local experts say the chances actually do that? can you take the of finding them are "bleak". country out the eu with no deal, but with a combination of the speaker katie price is appearing in court and the fact there is a majority of this morning to face charges of using abusive language mp5 and house against no deal, that outside a primary school. ms price is accused of using foul would stop you? well, again, we need and abusive language towards her estranged husband's to look at how the process works. new girlfriend last september by a school playground in shipley. she has previously pleaded not there is a lot wrong on this in the media. what we have got is article guilty to the charges.

50, which means we are leaving on the date, that is the 31st of hundreds of thousands of football fans lined the streets 0ctober. so whilst other people of liverpool yesterday, to welcome the city's champions league winners home. might try and frustrate it, and players and staff went on an open top bus parade you're quite right, most mp5 have with the famous trophy, finishing at the waterfront, where supporters celebrated never reconciled with the fact that their 2—0 win over spurs the country voted to leave, that in saturday's final in madrid. they've tried to derail it. how do a band which called for members you stop them? let me explain. the of the conservative party to be killed has had their appearance at glastonbury festival cancelled. prime minister last time kept bringing forward her withdrawal the band killdren which has a song titled kill tory agreement. when you bring something scum (before they kill you) forward to the floor of the house, had been due to play the shangri—la field along it is only then things can be with a second anti—conservative group, but their booking has now amended, so once a motion is laid, been withdrawn by the organisers. then you can alter the journey and then you can alter the journey and the course. i wouldn't be bringing back the withdrawal agreement so there would be nothing you could 300 veterans of the d—day landings — amend to alter it. what the prime which happened 75 years ago this minister did... would you not expect week — are embarking on a special voyage to france, to remember those who mp5 to find some other legislative lost their lives. vehicle, some way of... this is what they're travelling on a cruise ship which has been chartered by the royal british legion. more than 150,000 troops they did last time, when you're were involved in the landings, which remain the largest seaborne talking about 0liver letwin and yvette cooper, on the back of

bringing something forward, they had invasion in history. the prime minister seek an extension. she only had to seek an extension, she didn't have to do it. so it actually was the prime minister who altered things. as president trump landed in the uk — frequently, i understand the process is complicated, but when i listen to he decided to tweet this about the mayor people like yourselves talking who of london on twitter. don't quite understand the process sadiq khan has done a terrible in the house... so you don't... job as mayor of london, has been foolishly "nasty" to the visiting president of the united states, by far the most important ally forget my words, matt hancock says of the united kingdom. no deal price it won't happen he is a stone cold loser who should focus on crime in london, because parliament won't allow is he not me. just wrong? the only way, unless he and then he went on to insult his height. it comes after sadiq khan wa nts to criticised the president — just wrong? the only way, unless he wants to be prime minister and keep describing him as a 20th bringing back the withdrawal century fascist. agreement, and he does seem to be the mayor of london has just described president trump's latest following teresa my path, we could comments as "childish insults". play amendments and try and frustrated. but if you don't bring mr trump arrived an hour ago and is accompanied something back to end, it can't be by his wife melania. his children and their amended and derailed in that way. families will be also be joining him for part something back to end, it can't be amended and derailed in that waym you don't think there would be of the three—day trip, which comes ahead of a visit another legislative vehicle they could use to stop it? i'm sure to france to mark the 75th anniversary of d—day. people will try and frustrate the will of the british people. as prime

protests are planned across the uk while he's here. tomorrow — an even minister... that could work, that bigger version of this giant inflatable , could stop the uk leaving with mocking the us president, is due to fly over london. no—deal... could stop the uk leaving with no-deal. .. no, because could stop the uk leaving with no-deal... no, because the prime minister has the ability to ensure things don't happen to frustrate the bbc‘s washington correspondent, gary 0'donoghue, is outside buckingham palace, where the president things don't happen to frustrate things on the floor of the house, is due to arrive soon. and therefore the only thing that is in law is article 50, saying we are leaving and that's what we have to talk to our audience through the ensure we do. how many jobs will be lost as a result of the uk leaving schedule. in about two hours, he will come here, victoria, and he the eu with no deal? we have heard the eu with no deal? we have heard the scare stories... how many? we will come here, victoria, and he will probably come by helicopter. he will probably come by helicopter. he will land on the grounds of have the scare stories before which buckingham palace, the gardens at said even if we voted to leave... the back. he will be welcomed on the terrace by the queen. there will be how manyjobs will be lost if the uk a bit of music and then they will leaves the eu with no deal? i'm have lunch. later this afternoon, he saying how wrong information like will have tea with prince charles and the duchess of cornwall at this was in the past... how many? if clarence house, a couple of minutes you have all these information long walk away from here. he will get a wet mr abe walk away from here. he will get a wet mrabe and walk away from here. he will get a wet mr abe and do a bit of wreath before, significantly wrong... i'm laying there and later this evening —— make people go to westminster asking you what you think. they set abbey and later there will be a huge half a million people would be made

banquet tonight, which a number of unemployed, they were wrong, we have key politicians have boycotted. i'm record rates up an appointment. 500? pretty sure sadiq khan will not be at that. that tweets just as he was 5000? i'm not getting into this with landing at sta nsted at that. that tweets just as he was landing at stansted airport, obviously he knows exactly what he is doing. what is the reaction so you. i'm saying so for all these predictions have been wrong and we far to that? well, you saw what have now got record high employment. sadiq khan had to say. these two men that's what we have to continue to have a lot of history. they have been at one another on a number of be, world leader and go out with a issues, particularly on questions of knife crime and things like that, forward—looking... when donald trump tried to paint a be, world leader and go out with a forward-looking. .. do be, world leader and go out with a forward-looking... do you be, world leader and go out with a forward-looking. .. do you think any jobs might be lost as a result of bleak picture of what was going on the uk leaving without a deal? i'm not going to get into this number in london in terms of that issue. so guessing when i can tell you so far he has had sadiq khan in his sights all of these people who have said for some time. that business of this catastrophe and these things you are talking about what happened have got it all wrong in 2016. would talking about 20th—century fascism probably got under the you find a role for nigel farage?m president'sskin. he expects a what capacity? in terms of brexit. certain degree of respect for the office and for himself, and he is why would i do that? they did so com pletely office and for himself, and he is completely prepared to go after people, as you can see in that tweet, even to the extent of well in the elections. they did. is there any role for him if you are suggesting that mr khan is very prime minister? what we have to make

tall. i wonder how that will go sure we do is make sure we deliver brexit. what they proved is by not down! thank you, gary. let's talk now to anna delivering brexit, a single party on vickerstaff, who is one a single issue, the brexit party of the organisers behind the trump baby, as you can see managed to get an incredible we have a mini version of the blimp in the studio this morning. election result, in fact if it and daniel mcilhiney, hadn't been the general —— if it had who's a spokesperson for trump uk, been the general election they would a group of people in britain who support the president. been the general election they would be running the country with over 400 let's talk about this tweet first. seats. yes or no? as in? any role what do you make of that, daniel? for him? i do not foresee a role for well, our mayor has been goading the nigel farage. when we deliver president for some time. so it is brexit, which is what we got to do, sadiq khan's fault? well, we can't underestimate the fact that he is then the conservative party can go forward and look at these future the number one trading partner, things, like education, like sorry, the number one political, transport, like policing, like the economic and social ally with this country. calling him a fascist is nhs, all key things we've got to get disgraceful to the american people. right for all the working classes. couple more quick questions. you set and it is disgraceful to the office of the american president. the on lgbt relationship lessons that responding about his height...” pa rents on lgbt relationship lessons that parents should have the final say on mean, it's unhelpful. but what else what they want their children to know. why do you back parents who

don't want their children to know would sadiq khan expect? he knows that gay people exist? that was the the way that trump deals with this wrong question. i was asked... kind of stuff. and sadiq khan was trying to elicit a reaction to get that's the question i'm asking you. this kind of conversation started. but you have given a different which is true, is it not? this tweet a nswer to but you have given a different answer to a different question. my question was about sex education in shows exactly what we are saying schools. and how it is age—related. with the baby, which is that trump does not communicate in the way that and who should have a say on that. someone does not communicate in the way that someone in his position should. he doesn't respond well to reason, these were very young children in science or facts, and he primary school, and i said the people who should know whether it is communicates in insults. he is a big bully and a big baby reflects that. age relevant is the parents, not the sadiq khan was also in the insults state. now, am i happy, totally game. i think sadiq khan has every right to call donald trump a separate question with lgbt being 20th—century right to call donald trump a 20th—ce ntury fascist. right to call donald trump a 20th—century fascist. fascism taught in sex education? of i am. doesn't appear out of nowhere and recently, donald trump has been but that was never the question. the propping up the far right agenda by question was about sex education and working with people like bolsonaro andl working with people like bolsonaro and i shouldn't be a little. he might not be a fascist himself, but how age relevant it was, and who should make that decision. 0k, he is facilitating the far right agenda and sadiq khan has every how age relevant it was, and who should make that decision. ok, so in right to call him out for that. terms of relationship education then, are you backing parents who 0bviously, right to call him out for that. obviously, i don't think he is wa nt to ta ke then, are you backing parents who facilitating the far right agenda. want to take the children out of those lessons because they don't he is providing what the american wa nt those lessons because they don't want their children to know gay

people want. they voted for him. i people exist? and i say on this, don't think the majority of the whether it is age relevant, it is american populace are racists or fascists or neo—nazis, or any of the down to the parents. by the way... things that our politicians have described his voters as. i trust the why are you backing those parents then? because i believe that parents with very young children, four or american people to elect who is best for them. this absolutely isn't a five years old... to know that gay protest against american people, it's a protest in solidarity with people exist? i would say their pa rents people exist? i would say their parents know for their child what is american people affected by donald trump's politics, it's a protest against the fact that we are rolling age relevant. this is not controversial, this is the same out the red carpet for a man who yesterday we had is potentially going to privatise the nhs and the policy thatjustine greening way that will impact people in the oversaw, it is the same policy that uk. this is a protest against a man labour oversaw... she says to you who regularly denies climate change, which is a death sentence for people you cannot pick and choose on human in the global south. it's a protest against a in the global south. it's a protest rights and equality, children should againsta man in the global south. it's a protest against a man who regularly spouts misogyny, who has taken away the understand the modern and diverse reproductive rights of women and world. and this was the same policy non—binary people in the us. it's which have just world. and this was the same policy which havejust said world. and this was the same policy which have just said she oversaw, unacceptable. we are not protesting that for young children in this american people, we are standing with them to say, we are going to multicultural, diverse, modern protest with you and we are working society we live in, i would say very to defeat these fascist politics. there is a lot to pick up there. the young children, four or five, point you are making about

pa rents young children, four or five, parents have a say over sex privatising the nhs is, if, but education. but i happily come and i brexit, the uk tries to get a free trade deal with the us, potentially, agree andi education. but i happily come and i agree and i welcome that lgbt rights the nhs service providers might have to be opened up to the american are taught within sex education so market. how do you respond? well, there are two very different questions. you will know that your trump has not made a policy of that yet, so it would be foolish of any colleague james brokenshire is of us to speculate. but yesterday calling on the least popular candidates in the tory leadership the us ambassador said it was on the race to pull out. you have five table. sure, it's on the table and when it is presented, we can discuss it in depth, when we know what is publicly declared supporters of four including your fiance. are you being discussed. until that point, publicly declared supporters of four including yourfiance. are you going to step down by the end of this it is just speculation. we week? now, i will not. to step down by the end of this being discussed. until that point, week? now, iwill not. those are it isjust speculation. we don't have to accept it. and we are not accepting that as a proposal, people who have declared not necessarily, or in fact not the because we are out on accepting that as a proposal, because we are out on the streets. numbers you have got. i'm standing the last time trump was here, there because i'm the only person standing we re the last time trump was here, there were 250,000 people on the streets of london. we don't know how many people will be there tomorrow but we ona because i'm the only person standing on a very forward thinking agenda. i do know that beyond those on the know other people are copying and streets, there are thousands more following now, but when i say 4 who are regularly organising to resist what to represent. if he is out resist what to represent. if he is billion for education, that's1 our biggest ally, we need to hold him to account and have the kind of billion for education, that's1 relationship we want. just because billion for education, that's1 billion for special education needs, 1 billion forfurther brexit is happening doesn't mean we billion for special education needs, 1 billion for further education and have to accept a deal that would be 2 billion for the core budget, when

i talk about 3 billion more for disastrous for our health care. we policing to make our streets safe, deserve better. we have had a tweet and when i look to support public saying we should welcome him. he is sector workers, and i talk about, coming at the anniversary of the how do we get people into jobs, how d—day landings, where merry americans also died. do you accept do we allow people to do what they that? part of this visit is an wa nt to important commemoration of all those do we allow people to do what they want to do and flourish? that's what i'm proud about, and reaching out to who died —— many americans dead. that includes british and canadian the north, to the midlands, to all service personnel as well. it was an the north, to the midlands, to all the regions, to say, look, look at important alliance. absolutely, and we are not saying trump shouldn't be our opportunities going forward... here. we are criticising this level so there is no chance you will drop of state visit in the rolling out of the red carpet. if we remember what the red carpet. if we remember what the d—day celebrations are about, out? attacks, for me, the country they are a celebration of a memorial and a victory in the fight against needs another woman promised. —— mike atex. thank you for coming on fascism. currently, the way trump is enacting his policies, it is the programme. we hope to interview creeping back to a far right agenda, which we need to be aware of.” as many tory leadership contenders as many tory leadership contenders think comparing trump to 1930s and as possible over the coming days but not necessarily hold your breath! 40s nazism is not only offensive to it's been a controversial yearfor love island — the victims of 19405 nazism, but tonight the uk's most popular 405 nazism is not only offensive to the victims of 19405 nazism, but reality show returns with new duty offensive to the people who voted of care processes in place to protect its contributors.

for him from all kinds of it follows the deaths of two backgrounds, and dangerous. it sets former cast members — a precedent where we call everyone which led to others from the show criticising its psychological we disagree with a nazi. so you have support and aftercare. there have also been calls for this year's show to be more diverse got people who are stuck in this and for the lie detector to banned, bizarre situation where they go, do following the death of a guest i like this person? they called from thejeremy kyle show. trumpa i like this person? they called trump a nazi that's micro i am not ahead of the new series, calling trump a nazi. because he is we've been spending time with former love island contestant samira mighty to find out how appearing on the show changed her life. the president of the united states and therefore a country that is one of our greatest allie5, if not our greatest ally, do we have to accept it's a cool evening in manchester everything he says and does? of course not, but we have to respect and former love island stars are attending the launch his office. the way he has to of a fashion line. 12 months after the reality show re5pect ended, going to events like this his office. the way he has to respect the mayor of london's office? well, the mayor of london is nowjust part of theirjob. and him have been going at each how are you? fine, thanks. other for and him have been going at each otherfor a while. i don't think good. it's fair to lay all the blame at trump's door. however, we are entering into unprecedented political and economic turmoil at west end performer samira mighty had 4,000 instagram followers the moment, and we need trade deal5. when she entered the love island we need to start making sense wa5 villa. when she left, she had a million. that we can't start cutting off our inside, the party is in full swing, no5e that we can't start cutting off our nose to spite our face because we with loud music and many influencers don't like the fact that he called posting on their social media.

our mayor a loser. we also need a trade deal that works for everyone, and trump does not represent all american people. but he is their democratically elected president. do you think that prote5t5 democratically elected president. do you think that protests and a giant blimp will put him off coming up with a decent free trade deal for u5? with a decent free trade deal for us? i don't think it will, because he has enough re5pect us? i don't think it will, because he has enough respect for this country to look beyond that. there will be people on the streets and there will be people at home who are supporting him. it was only 250,000 last time. we are much larger than that as a nation. but when people point at the last year we had the crown prince of saudi arabia in the uk and in may we had the turkish president. and president xi. in july, the emir of qatar. yeah. do we welcome everybody? well, the people who protested against trump didn't prote5t, well most of them, there

we re prote5t, well most of them, there were not large—scale prote5t, well most of them, there were not la rge—5cale prote5t5 against people who are genuinely abusing human rights. that's a fair point, we did not see the size of prote5t we are expecting this week for president xi and others. prote5t we are expecting this week for president xi and othersm prote5t we are expecting this week for president xi and others. it is unfairto for president xi and others. it is unfair to say there are not protest. there are. the scale of the protests against trump are in correlation to the position of power he holds on the position of power he holds on the platform he has. but the president of china is powerful. but trump is seen as our biggest ally and the policies he is currently enacting our sexist and they are tearing apart migrant families at the us border. they are racist politics and they were impact in the uk when we are negotiating trade deals, so we need to hold him to account. because of that direct relationship, that is why we are seeing protests of this scale. it is just common sense. to pick up one of the things about tearing familie5 apart at the border. the policy you are talking about was enacted by 0bama and was ended by trump. trump i5 0bama and was ended by trump. trump is the one who ended that policy, because he heard what the american people had to say. i'm not here to

defend 0bama, i am people had to say. i'm not here to defend 0bama, lam here people had to say. i'm not here to defend 0bama, i am here to what trump is doing with migrant families, which is serious. there has been a reduction in migrant a rre5t5 has been a reduction in migrant arre5ts since trump has become president because of increased security at the border. thank you very much. anna vickerstaff, one of the organisers of the protests with the organisers of the protests with the trump baby, and daniel, a 5upporter the trump baby, and daniel, a supporter of donald trump. family people in your group? ten? more than that. i can't give you an estimate. how many were at the last do?” wasn't there, i was in america. thank you both. still to come... this woman wants to be your next prime minister — esther mcvey, former work and pensions secretary, in charge of universal credit last year, before resigning over the pm'5 brexit deal, although she did vote for it in the end. and love island is back! tonight the uk'5 most popular reality show returns with new duty of care processes in place

to protect its contributors — we'll be joined by one of the stars from la5t'5 year love island, laura anderson. could this woman be your next prime minister? there are now 13 politicians who want to be the next tory leader and pm. this is esther mcvey, former secretary of state for work and pensions and mp for tatton. she describes herself as a problem solver, a dog lover, a glass always half full per5on. we'll talk to her about the substance of her pitch to you, her record in government, and what makes her tick, in a second. and do let us have your qtn5 and comments — email victoria@bbc.co.uk. fir5t, watch this. the race is on to replace there5a may as the next leader of the conservative party. whoever wins will also get the keys to downing street and become britain's new prime minister. so, who's in the running? one of the contenders i5 e5ther mcvey. morning, everybody.

originally from liverpool, she started her career as a tv presenter at the bbc and over at gmtv, but decided to pack it all in and become a politician, first standing a5 a conservative party candidate in the 2005 general election, without success. she tried again in 2010 and won. in 2013, david cameron appointed her employment secretary. but, two years later, in the 2015 general election, she was voted out. determined not to leave politics, she stood again in 2017 in ex—chancellor george 05borne'5 old seat and won. she was appointed the government's deputy chief whip, one of the people responsible for keeping party mp5 in line, and then promoted to work & pensions secretary, where she was responsible for continuing to implement the controversial universal credit policy. she quit theresa may's top team in 2018 in protest over the pm's brexit plan. mcvey says she's a committed brexiteer who would be prepared to take britain out of the eu without a deal in october. her fans say she's

determined and principled. her critics say she's prejudiced and divisive. and esther is here with me now. have you been seeking donald trump's endorsement? i haven't. do you want it? well, as he is the democratically elected president of the united states, i think it's important that we do have a good relationship with him, and that is what we would be seeking. but would a personal endorsement from him help you? at this moment in time, as i go forward with the leadership, we need to focus on that and not have distractions. but of course, if the president wants to endorse somebody, that would be positive for anyone. what do you think of his tweet about the mayor of london? well, between the mayor of london? well, between the two of them, so they can, with his baby balloon —— sadiq khan is showing himself to be very sort of

churlish and childish. and when you have got such an important visitor coming to the country, i think it is disrespectful as well. so sadiq khan has provoked this, it's his fault that donald trump has insulted his height and called him a loser?” think he knows, once he is doing insults at the president of the united states, where we know that the trump likes to go on to the twittersphere, that is something he was responding. i think sadiq is really virtue signalling and may be distracting from what he is not getting right, and i think donald trump did perhaps hit a raw nerve. what are you doing, sadiq, for things you should be looking at, like i'm on the streets? what are you doing with things you should be in charge of? not a lot, as he sees it. so you're distracting from your lack of leadership in your own area.

i have got to be honest, i can't imagine you in a room with donald trump as britain's prime minister, negotiating a free trade deal in a perspex it well. is that unfair?” would you say that? why would you negotiate with him? hang on a set, you have come out with a bold statement, not knowing me, so why would you say that? because of your experience in government which is a minister and then a cabinet minister. you would be in a room with a very powerful negotiator who has had decades of expense in business and is now the president of the states. could you negotiate decent free trade deals between the uk and britain? what i would be straightaway, which i haven't seen happen so far, i would be in that room, because as a politician, you set the agenda of where you are going. but you're right, i would bring a team in with me that would be the world's best negotiators, the world's best lawyers. i wouldn't sending anybody who wouldn't be up for the job, sending anybody who wouldn't be up for thejob, but i would

sending anybody who wouldn't be up for the job, but i would set the agenda and i could do that. i was looking at the information you put up looking at the information you put up about me, and i have had 30 years asa up about me, and i have had 30 years as a trained lawyer, doing corporate governance, working business and chair of the british transport police authority. so slightly more than you gave mejust police authority. so slightly more than you gave me just as a tv presenter. but what i am very good at doing is putting a team together which would be the best team. so you're right, i would have the best people in the room to do that negotiation. because you couldn't do it yourself? no, because if you are ahead ofan it yourself? no, because if you are ahead of an organisation, you get the best people in there. when i was in charge of the british transport police authority, you have the best chief constable, the best people in charge of hr and resources, the best people in charge of finances. myjob would be creating that team.“ people in charge of finances. myjob would be creating that team. if you get thejob, will you end austerity? what do you mean by austerity?

savings, cuts. for example, would you immediately end the freeze on working age benefits which would help most of all, according to the joseph rowntree foundation, working families in poverty with children? when we came in in 2010, what we had to do because the finances were out of kilter, was make sure we were living within our means. would you now end it? it already will be ending very shortly, the cap, because it was put in place for a certain amount of time to enable the country to get back on its feet, which we have now done. so what i have said, when i have launched my addenda, is said that what we need to do is put the extra money that we need, 4 billion, into schools, and 3 billion into policing because we are ina billion into policing because we are in a different position from where we we re in a different position from where we were in 2010. you need somebody

who is a nimble leader who can change things when they need to be changed. that is why i have said we will support public sector workers, because we need to. you would pay for that money you have just mentioned from the international aid budget, and you know we spend a tiny amount of our national wealth on foreign aid, 0.7%. yet you would ta ke foreign aid, 0.7%. yet you would take 7 billion or so from that budget, which helps some of the poorest people in the world, you would cut that budget? if we look at what has happened with that foreign aid budget, whilst other budgets, as you said, were either being held at a fixed rate or cut, that was the only one which has nearly doubled. soi only one which has nearly doubled. so i have said let's go back to it. it was at historically high rates in 2010. it would be less than 0.796 of our national wealth if you were prime minister. and hardly any countries are on 0.7%. we can't be

giving money away when we haven't got police on the streets, when we are not giving education... but if the last coalition hadn't cut 20,000 officers, we would have more police on the streets. but that was because we we re on the streets. but that was because we were spending 150 billion a year just on the debt we had, because labour had so outspent on everything that we were getting beyond our means. but you could have made different choices. we couldn't, because we looked at all of the money and we had to get back into spending. let's look at it the other way will. when i worked in benefits, yes, we had to get hold of that budget. it had gone up by 65% under labour, so we had to make sure we had a benefit system for the future. and remember, we have 3.5 million more people back into work, 1000 more people back into work, 1000 more people back into work, 1000 more people each and every day when i was there. and i created something known as disability confident to look after disabled people and help them into work. now we have got

nearly 1 them into work. now we have got nearly1 million more disabled people into work. you have to look at both sides of the coin. now that we have done all that work, turn the economy around, which people acknowledge, got 3.5 million more people in work, how do we use our money to support people where they need it? but you would take money from the international aid budget to fund public services, as opposed to making a different choice. for example, you could scrap the further 296 example, you could scrap the further 2% cut example, you could scrap the further 296 cut in example, you could scrap the further 2% cut in corporation tax which is due to come to big businesses by the end of the decade. we have got to make sure that businesses are here, creating jobs and creating wealth going forward. how is that foreign aid budget being spent? 1 billion is going on consultants. that is the

foreign office's fault. at the end of the year, it gets spent. you have to prioritise your spending to make sure children are getting the best education. i believe in social mobility and self empowerment, and the only way we can do that is by doing that. and the other thing i would do when we are looking at helping the poorest countries, it is about them being able to trade. it is about them having good corporate governance at home in their countries and saying, how do we work with you so that you can trade out of poverty, not give a certain amount of money in aid, but actually trade? that is what will be transformative to raise those countries out of poverty.” transformative to raise those countries out of poverty. i have watched all the interviews you have done recently and you often mention fairness. how fair was it when you we re fairness. how fair was it when you were ministerfor fairness. how fair was it when you were minister for disabled people to

force people with disabilities to effectively fight for financial support to which they were legally entitled to? again, how are you explaining that? which bit was i making people fight for support? through the work capability assessments, which many of our audience have told us were sometimes very stressful, sometimes humiliating and sometimes, frankly, absurd. this is a system i was carrying forward. the labour government brought that through. and when people go for any benefit, there will always be a gateway check to make sure you are eligible for that benefit. that was brought in by the labour government. and then we thought, how do we make it a fairer system ? thought, how do we make it a fairer system? our audience would not call it fair. we are talking the movement

from disability living allowance to pips. as a different assessment. two assessments, work capability assessments, work capability assessment and the assessment where people move from dla onto pit. —— pip. we want a more generous system, not only to people with physical disabilities, but we also looked at sensory ones, whether it was learning disabilities, blind, deaf and how do we get people they need? spending on pip has gone up every year. but let me read to messages. nina grant has an illness which affects the joints and connective tissues, causing fatigue, dizziness and injuries. she is a member of the labour party. i was given zero points in response to my first pip

assessment. because of this i spent over a year living on £73 a week, struggling to make ends meet. it had a huge impact on my mental health as well. i wrote all about the history of mental health problems in the pip application but was not asked a single question about it. it felt like we weren't human beings to them, let alone potentially vulnerable. soi so i brought in, how do we make this more caring, more accepting of all the disabilities? that's why actually the spend on pip has gone up actually the spend on pip has gone up more than dla. i'm about the process , up more than dla. i'm about the process, let me read you... hang on... and video taping as well so we can make sure... my husband as huntington's disease, a terminal neurological degenerative disease

which is effective him physically, psychologically and socially. he was subject to the most awful and degrading assessment. i was angry, frustrated and that my fist raised and saddened that he had been made to go through this decoding process in such an inhumane way. you are partly responsible for that. hang on a second. if we ever heard about issues like this, they would be straightaway have to say why this had come about. so we would monitor them, make sure that actually they we re them, make sure that actually they were as best as they could do... was itfairto were as best as they could do... was it fair to put people through that we shall the fact that if it was wrong and on this instance maybe it was, they would be allowed straightaway another assessment.- try and make sure that they got the benefit that they should get. so i have always been open—minded that if it was wrong, if the assessment didn't work correctly, we had to get it better. so for the last couple of yea rs, it better. so for the last couple of yea rs , we it better. so for the last couple of yea rs, we have it better. so for the last couple of years, we have continually improved

the process. i'm not saying there isn't more to do, there will always be more to do, but what you need to understand, we are one of the most generous countries and our support for disabled people. £50 billion a year and we will continue to do so. but something —— if something is wrong it has to be put right. let me tell you this, it is from morag. she is 34, she voted for the greens, she is 34, she voted for the greens, she isa is 34, she voted for the greens, she is a member of unison. hi, i'm morag. i was diagnosed with autism just before i turned 30. i was given the full benefits i needed to live my life but, when i was reassessed just two short years later, they decided to cut my pip by £100 per month. the stress of that and the appeals process left me often unfit for work, and it all occurred during a period of psychiatric crisis. i'd like to ask you, esther, how you can stand knowing people have died or taken their own lives as a result of decisions and delays taken by the dwp, for which you were responsible?

well walker i do know is that people to get support and help. —— what i do know. what is wrong we help people. and what i do know is that we have helped 1 million more nearly disabled people into work. that question is, how can you stand knowing people have died because of delays or decisions taken at the dwp when you are responsible? to accept people have died after delays in decisions about the benefits? when you speak to chief medical officer, she will not say that it is that. actually, it is very complicated, the system. and equally the people we work with are some of the most vulnerable in society coming forward. what we got to make sure we do is help them, which we do, we have to make sure we signpost them to the support they need, which we

do. and as a country we are very generous there, but understanding that some people's lives a very difficult. understanding... did you see this lady was? morag. where was she from? blair currie. and also from? -- blair currie. she is in unison. equally when you're putting people up here, they have come with a very specific view under direct opposition. what i'd like to speak to the millions... i think it is just her experience. but i would like you to speak to the millions of people we help every year who i could give you their letters of thanks to what people have done.” don't think that's any consolation to may be a minority of people who would describe what they have been through as horrific. that's why we help them as best we can. if you

become prime minister, will you carry on attacking disabled and vulnerable people in our society?” have never, ever, ever attacked vulnerable and disabled people. that is why i created something known as disability confident, to work with disabled people, businesses and government to say, how do we help you, support you going forward with what you want to do that's nearly a million more disabled people who have actually got the opportunities ofajob, of have actually got the opportunities of a job, of work, of meeting other people and going out and living the life, how they would want to. so that's what i look to do. i seeks to empower the most vulnerable in society. you are right, when i hear insta nces, society. you are right, when i hear instances, and they are the minority impaired to the majority, who we help, we have got to say, how do we get that right? i dispute that. you

can't help the people who died. while they were waiting for decision. i have the figures from the dwp if want me to read them. and what you're doing there is not really understanding the situation, because some people who come to us looking for benefits could already be terminally ill. we fast tracked those as soon as possible. we fast