tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News June 4, 2019 10:00am-11:01am BST
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seem very excited. the vibe here is friendly and optimistic, it is fun, more like a carnival than a traditional protest. noelle, you hello, it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. we re traditional protest. noelle, you were smiling as mccarty was describing the statue of donald protests against the us president's state visit are due trump sitting on the toilet. —— as to begin in an hour — right now donald trump is meeting ash was describing. business leaders and preparing for talks with the prime minister at 10 downing street. trump sitting on the toilet. —— as ash was describinglj trump sitting on the toilet. —— as ash was describing. i think it's funny. 0k, ash was describing. i think it's funny. ok, so that's not offensive, just the inflatable balloon? yeah, i mean, everyone has their own tea m team may prepare for the donald. opinion. 0k. ash, what is the point will he invite borisjohnson to t? standby. and we'll talk live of your protest today? i'm here from to the shadow foreign secretary and ask if her boss is a hypocrtie for ghosting president trump, friends of the earth because we need when he went to the state banquet to take climate change seriously. we for the chinese president. are ina and sure start centres for kids have to take climate change seriously. we are in a global climate emergency, led to major health benefits the world needs climate action right for children in poorer areas — so says independent now, the us isn't taking this research out today. seriously enough and donald trump is
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we'll ask if it was right to close a climate denier and needs to listen to the climate scientists and get on around 500 of them since 2010. board with the rest of the world to ta ke board with the rest of the world to take serious climate action. the us we will talk to mothers who say they are devastated that their children's has polluted historically so they centres a re are devastated that their children's need to take the lead on combating centres are closing. if you use one, get in touch. and stopping climate breakdown now before it's too late. we still have 12 years to stop runaway climate change, the us needs to get involved in donald trump needs to be the first person to do that. andre, do hello, welcome to the programme. you back her protesting to try to just looking at what is trending on get him to engage with the science behind climate change? jesus saying we have 12 years to resolve climate twitter. we will talk to emily change with the planet will be destroyed. i remember in the al gore thornberry and about half an hour or so. thornberry and about half an hour or so. she is due to attend one of film, he said we had ten years in those protests against donald trump. 2006. there is some misunderstanding a on twitter says, "my family & i are on our way on the science will stop i think we do need to deal with the fact we are to the #trumpprotest. hate should be shunned, polluting too heavily, we need to not asked to party." steve on twitter says, reduce our reliance on carbon. you "trump is over here primarily to commemorate world war ii and fallen soldiers, back the process? but i think it is anybody demonstrating today slightly over—the—top to say we are against this is a disgrace." going to be dead in 15 or 20 years
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johanna says, jeremy corbyn was to put on the point of climate is speaking for me change, i think it's quite important today at the anti—trump protest and all those protesting/marching because a state visit is all about against him also speak for me. good luck with the protests today. bilateral dialogue and if you think about it, donald trump is one of the mikey on twitter says, world's leading climate change "anyone who protests against trump in portsmouth this week of all weeks deniers will stop at prince charles needs their hard drive checked. is one of the leading climate change campaigners and they have a private this week is for remembrance discussion —— they had a private in pompey, not politics." discussion —— they had a private discussion yesterday and there will be more discussions today with the do get in touch on all the stories prime minister. my point is, we need we're talking about — use the hashtag #victorialive. to engage with dialogue with our if you're emailing and are happy biggest ally and this is an for us to contact you — opportunity to do that. what is the and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone trade? any american president once number in your message. footage with the queen because it will be covering the build—up to the helps their campaign. if we give process , we will be covering the build—up to the process, we will talk to emily thornberry and we will talk to that to them in exchange for the people who absolutely backed the close dialogue that is taking place. fa ct people who absolutely backed the fact that president trump is having a state visit to the uk. i think the protests are perfectly first, carrie gracie has the news. legitimate, but what i think it is difficult is the idea of him not after the formalities coming here and not engaging. of a state banquet, it's down to business on the second day difficult is the idea of him not coming here and not engaging! don't think that would be sensible. of president trump's state visit. last night, the us leader the problem is with somebody like used his address, during the dinner jeremy corbyn, who has a statutory at buckingham palace, to praise the queen's "spirit and dignity" throughout her reign duty to the british state and to the of nearly seven decades. british people to engage with a this morning, he is meeting foreign leader. do you take that
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theresa may to discuss a range of issues, including brexit, climate change and chinese mobile network operator, huawei. point, emi? resident trump may not sure start centres, aimed at improving early years health notice you are there, but he has met and education in england, prince charles, downing street have brought "big benefits", according to a leading confirmed theresa may will raise the issue of climate change with the economic think tank. president. so it's worth having the institute for fiscal studies these bilateral conversations stop found that the scheme, which has suffered significant funding cuts yellow ——. in recent years, had had a positive these bilateral conversations stop impact on pre—school children. yellow --. i hope they have very worthwhile conversations. action needs to happen right now, there is one of britain's most high—profile all this talk about climate change, asset managers has suspended trading in his largest fund because of a big the uk parliament has declared a rise in investors wanting climate emergency but friends of the to take their money out. earth will only believe the action that politicians take and donald it's reported that neil woodford trump pulling out of the paris froze the fund after a particularly agreement is not something we want large client, said to be to happen if we are going to be kent county council, asked for its money to be returned. serious about stopping runaway climate change. pulling out of the a court in france has sentenced paris accord is what has happened. an imam to two years in prison the point is, how do you respond to for helping migrants try to cross the english channel it with mike if you're interested in in inflatable boats. the 39—year—old iranian helping america to make the right national was accused of arranging several crossings. decision on climate change, the way
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to do it is engage with their he and another man admitted elected leader. what you may want to providing six or seven dinghies. do is encourage americans not to vote for donald trump at the next specialist first aid kits election but in the meantime, are being displayed in more than 50 certainly i don't have a vote on the bars and clubs in birmingham from today, in an attempt american election and i think what you have to do is lobby what you've to reduce the number of deaths from knife crime. got rather than start disengaging. the kits contain essential because there are many people on items to stop the flow your protest who would take the view of blood from knife wounds. that donald trump should never be other cities, including spoken to, we should never engage nottingham and liverpool, with him. we can engage with the are also introducing similar equipment, after a number of recent attacks. president of china or with robert mugabe or with the king of saudi heart attack patients could soon be arabia but we must not engage with given what's been called the president of the united states? a "pumping" patch to help mend their damaged organ. this is classic strawman. the each patch is around three centimetres long and contains organisers of the protest, some of millions of healthy cells. it is placed over the injured them organised the protests against heart to aid healing. saudi arabia, they have been frequent critics of the chinese scientists involved in development say they hope human regime, so let mejust dismiss trials will begin soon. frequent critics of the chinese regime, so let me just dismiss that point... no, let's not... no, you there will be no official commemorations in mainland china today, on the 30th anniversary had your time. let's talk about this of protests in beijing's obligation we have to the british tiananmen square. people in order to engage with the this image of a man blocking
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tanks shocked the world, american government and the white house. donald trump has shown he when the chinese government sent does not respect a rules —based soliders to crush a peaceful, pro—democracy student protest. global order. the only thing that has got him to respond our shows of —— soldiers. strength. by turning our back on him customers will be able to fill up their own containers in terms of the state visit and with products that were previously wrapped, as part of a new trial saying, now, the british people do not think we should roll out the red by one major supermarket. in an attempt to reduce plastic carpet for a man who has a history waste, items including pasta, fruit and veg, wine and washing—up of racism and misogyny, for a man liquid will be available at waitrose without any packaging. whose government supports opening up our nhs to american markets, i think thatis the trial will run for 11 weeks, to see if customers are prepared our nhs to american markets, i think that is showing and respecting a to change how they shop. statutory obligation to the british people... i think it's unfair to be those are the news headlines, let's go back to victoria. so people... i think it's unfair to be so dishonest on a tv show like this. as you know, the americans are not so many messages about the protests trying to privatise the nhs. in any which are due to begin today against free trade deal... hang on. it is president trump's state visit. paul says, i think it is disgusting that jeremy corbyn will be there whipping up jeremy corbyn will be there whipping up trouble and hatred for donald nonsense. any contract that the nhs trump. jeff says indifference is by far the chooses to advertise privately after best protest. the british could the trade deal, american companies
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make. nothing would be more would be allowed to bid on them but insulting to a narcissist. the key point is the nhs would not alexander said history will judge have to advertise every contract or any contract privately. so what trump to be one of the better would happen is an american company presidents. another tweets he is a narcissist would happen is an american company would compete with serco and carillion to clean the toilet. if and a bully, the best thing to do is you think those companies are so to ignore him. christopher says, people should remember the usa is and always has worth defending, you continue doing it. but the idea we are privatising been our closest ally. the nhs is complete nonsense. you know it is nonsense. it is not another christopher says, to hurt nonsense at all. what woodyjohnson trump more than all the protests put together would be a complete media ban. we completely ignore the most said, maybe you should take this up arrogant, corrupt and ignorant person on the planet, he would never with andrew marr, the entirety of the british economy would be on the set foot here again. table in future trade negotiations. sounds like censorship! and one more, adrian says, this virtue signalling from the left is simply we are looking towards hang on. right at this moment, britain is lost on sane brits who know freedom of speech works both ways. having a real good think about what your views are welcome. day two of president's trump visit our trading relationships after and in the last hour, brexit are going to look like. most he's left buckinghham palace for a meeting with business of the leadership candidates who are leaders and theresa may. later, he'll hold talks vying to be our next prime minister with the prime minister in downing street before holding a joint news conference with her, are in favour of leaving on october and then attending a banquet
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the 31st come what may and that at the us ambassador's house, would mean we would have to, in with prince charles and the duchess of cornwall. order to make up the shortfall in last night at that state banquet, the economy, open ourselves up to the queen said the usa and uk were celebrating an alliance trading arrangements which do not which had ensured the "safety and prosperity of both our peoples have us in as strong a position as we would be before. that is what it for decades", while mr trump praised is important to us that we reject the "eternal friendship" american markets having a role in between the uk and us, whilst paying tribute to those the nhs. would you like to who fought and died deregulate our food and drugs safety in the second world war. standards as well as taking a stand against the racist and bigotry that donald trump has shown himself to be in favour of? let me ask you, jeremy the bond between our nations was corbyn will be there today, he will forever sealed in that great be speaking on the stage, would you not like him to meet donald trump on crusade, as we honour our shared victory and heritage, we affirm the the strip to tell him that about the common values that will unite us nhs, to say, our nhs will not be for long into the future. freedom, sale? i think it will be a powerful sovereignty, self—determination, the message ifjeremy corbyn was per rule of law, and reverence for the minister but as leader of the 0pposition his first duty is to rights given to us by almighty god. represent the interests of the british people that —— and that is why he is into —— that is why he is
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addressing the process. he is not we can show you some pictures, they the prime minister. so it's ok to have just reached us, we can show you some pictures, they havejust reached us, of we can show you some pictures, they boycott if you're a leader of the have just reached us, of a 0pposition but once you are prime we can show you some pictures, they havejust reached us, of a business meeting going on between donald minister, that ends?” trump, various business leaders from 0pposition but once you are prime around the country, and of course minister, that ends? i think when he is prime minister he would have a the prime minister, theresa may. duty to robustly and aggressively attacked british interests, if that just getting a closer view of that... a lot of men in that room! meant entering into trade negotiations with donald trump and protecting our interests, so be it. then there is our current prime but at this point he is not in the minister. 0h, ivanka is there as position of power. thank you. on well. in a moment or two... the twitter, someone says i think it is disgusting people are not respecting trump. robert says, is it wrong to democratically protest against a camera may pan out to show ivanka. visit from the head of a democratic country to another? anyone who theresa may will have meetings with donald trump then there will be a joint news conference this thinks not, you are exactly what's wrong with both our countries. afternoon. during mr trump's packed schedule mervyn says, trump is the person who today, protestors will be holding speaks his mind, we could do with demonstrations all over the country, including in central london — politicians to do the same instead those protests will start in just under an hour. of dilly—dallying. let's speak to some of those who are taking part in protests, sunday says, i believe everyone in and some who don't think that protest has better things to the protests shld be happening at all. do. the best way for the president
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ash sarkar is a journalist to show our dismay is to be and political activist who supports labour leaderjeremy corbyn com pletely and will be one of the speakers to show our dismay is to be completely out on the streets, at the protest in trafalgar square. com pletely completely out on the streets, completely out on the streets, completely out of the streets, to ignore him. he is not important and emi murphy is a campaigner from friends of the earth, he will feel it the more. who will be protesting we have better things to do. thank trump's climate policies. andre walker is a conservative you very much. more coverage to columnist who thinks that trump is the "most pro—british president come. we will talk about theresa in living memory". and noelle powell is an american may's meeting with donald trump living in hereford who's angry later in the programme. we will also at the treatment the president has discuss what donald trump wants to been getting in the uk. get out of this visit. i will start with you, i think you're angry about some of the trim in the president has been getting? we'll be looking at children centres, formerly known as sure start centres and how not necessarily angry, just over the past 20 years research disappointed. i think they should be shows they've had a big positive effect on children's health — reducing injuries and hospitalisations in the poorest areas by up to 30% — so why have around 500 have been shut? more coverage. “— and we'll be getting disappointed. i think they should be more coverage. —— more respect. more on hip—hop's first disappointed. i think they should be more coverage. -- more respect. what do you mean specifically? no blimp. official billionaire. jay z has now — according to american magazine forbes — got $1 billion empire — that's £800 million. i thought it was overkill. it's absurd. i don't really agree with right, so, while protesters that. everyone has the right to are heading to and gathering protest a nd that. everyone has the right to protest and has a right to their own in trafalgar square, theresa may is holding opinion but i don't think the talks with president trump
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balloon is necessary. everything at downing street. else is fine, just the blimp. yes, i let's talk to norman smith. what understand he's not the most loved will be top of the agenda? it's individual, but in my opinion, i quite difficult to work out, because don't think the blimp is necessary. really, from donald trump is my what about the reception he's point of view he will be thinking, received from the queen and members why am point of view he will be thinking, whyami point of view he will be thinking, why am i sitting here, what's the of the royal family yesterday point of this meeting? there was a lot of chat yesterday about whether lunchtime and last night, when by this bilateral meeting would even go all accounts, there was a really warm feeling in the room? yes, we ahead. in the end it is but it's not the sort of very close one private, have as americans, we are infatuated with the royal family, more intense meeting you often have have as americans, we are infatuated with the royalfamily, and i really between leaders, there are a whole like that, i think it's very range of other officials and important right now for the uk and ministers and it will be a sort of the us to have a positive broad ranging canter around relationship, but it felt positive. different views on different topics because of his day, theresa may is let's go to trafalgar square. going. so from donald trump's perspective, he's thinking, what's welcome, both of you. tell us what's the point really in trying to reach going on there behind you. so, the any agreement on these issues with mrs may, when a couple of weeks from protest is just starting, you can now there will be someone else there are? it's a very odd meeting many see behind us a 16 foot statue of ways. you compare it to some of
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these sort of meetings between donald trump tweeting from a golden british prime ministers and toilet. we don't know if the toilet presidents, you think of the is made of gold but he definitely relationship between mrs thatcher and ronald reagan, or between tony tweets while on it. lots of people blairand and ronald reagan, or between tony blair and bill clinton, and then you have this and it's just a very underpowered moment, if i'm honest. but they have always been a bit of a political odd couple, donald trump, the showmen, the man who loves razzmatazz, loves the big media event, theresa may, the rather shy and cautious politician, much less self—confident. but they have always sat rather oddly together. you kind of feel they have never really gelled, although they have tried to be polite about each other. and that's why, i guess, donald trump is enthusiastic about boris johnson because temperament took —— tim —— temperamentally at least they are on the same page. that has been the worry for theresa may's team that after they had have this rather none of it meeting, at the press
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conference maybe donald trump will go off piste and have a few critical things to say about mrs may's attempted to negotiate a brexit deal and his enthusiasm for boris johnson. and that is live on bbc news at two o'clock of course. let's talk to two conservatives who have different views on president trump and what they believe his meeting with theresa may will achieve. elisabeth beloten is the deputy chairman for the conservative party in hammersmith and has campaigned for the democrats in the states. and james cottis is a conservative councillor who has campaigned for republicans. welcome, both. what do you think theresa may should do in this meeting, knowing that from his point of view she is a lame duck? at the end of the day she is trying to build a stronger relationship between the uk in the us but i think a more productive meeting would have been if she had an afternoon where she introduced the 13 conservative leadership candidates so that he could meet them. seriously, invite the 13 people who want to take over
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from you to meet the president of the us? were to be interested in meeting them? he does know which one will be the next leader... we know who he thinks would make an excellent promise to. but he doesn't have a vote, and i don't thing his opinion matters to everyone. james, what do you think? i don't think trump really knows who any of the candidates are apart from boris johnson. so would it be a good opportunity? is that what she should be doing? i think she should be looking at what she should be doing after she has left office, not what she can do in the last remaining hours of her premiership. during her meeting with donald trump, meaning what? she should be looking ahead and shoring up what the next government wants to do. but is in the best way of doing that ensuring that the president gets to meet everyone? brexit will happen on the 3ist everyone? brexit will happen on the 31st of october unless is further
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delayed. it will happen, you know, most of the candidates have said we have to leave on october the 31st. there is going to be no time to build a relationship with the president of the us, and this would bea president of the us, and this would be a great opportunity for her to introduce them, to see the president. i'm not talking about a state dinner, i'm talking about lunch or coffee, i don't think it's unreasonable for her to introduce them. do you want mrs may to bring up them. do you want mrs may to bring up climate change? downing is saying she will. do you want mrs may to bring up huawei? he will probably that because he has blocked them from doing business in america, bidding for contracts. we don't know yet what the british government will decide about whether they can be involved in our five g network. decide about whether they can be involved in our five 6 network.” think there will be a whole host of topics that trump could bring up with the prime minister. i think the main topic they should be discussion is our relationship with the united
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states once we have left europe, if we ever get to leave. i don't know whether we will. .. we ever get to leave. i don't know whether we will... what's the point in talking to mrs may about that? she is not going to be around but she may be able to persuade whoever his her successor to take on the mantle. once we have left europe, we need friends in the big wide world but at the moment we are a laughing stock. do you worry, do you have the same concerns as some of the protesters about the nhs and where that might come in negotiations when it comes to free trade? the foreign secretary said he can't imagine any new leader, from any party, putting nhs contracts into that kind of deal. i think the protesters have a right to protest against any visit, visitor from any other country, but we have got to realise that the president has been welcomed by the government, has had an official visit with the queen, and so far has
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gone quite well, that's what we have to concentrate on. i believe that he is here to commemorate the 75th anniversary, i think it's a great moment in history that she is able to pass along the torch to however her successor is, not many people are able to do that, she has trudeau coming at the end of the week so it isa coming at the end of the week so it is a great opportunity for her. in terms of trade deals, nothing is written in stone, i don't believe the government will auction off the nhs to anybody. it would be a political bad move. joe says, why is jeremy corbyn speaking at an anti—trump demonstration in london because monkey is just consolidating he will never become pm. how could we elect him. —— because he isjust consolidating. he says, people are
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naive if they think donald trump is here for remembrance services only. why a state visit if that is the case? the us were analysed but that give the president the right to walk and talk roughshod over us. getting involved in a choice of pm and being so disrespectful to the mayor of london. eric says any president should be welcomed in the uk, these protesters should be ashamed of themselves. rosa says, i'm an american living in the uk, i don't believe donald trump should have received all this pump, the demonstrations around by him, in my opinion. those balloons are brilliant! thank you. really quickly, ithink those balloons are brilliant! thank you. really quickly, i think we have to honour the relationship, we have had the relationship since the war of 1812, older than some countries in europe. at the same time, we have to understand that he is elected by the american people and representing them. it's quite likely he will win
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again in 2020 is... we have no idea... i disagree. unless again in 2020 is... we have no idea... idisagree. unless you again in 2020 is... we have no idea... i disagree. unless you have a crystal ball that is better than eve ryo ne a crystal ball that is better than everyone else's. thank you, bill. —— both. the sure start programme was set up early in the last labour government 20 years ago. it was designed to give pre—school children the best start in life, with centres providing health, education and childcare services. spending on them peaked at £1.8 billion a year in 2010 but has been cut by two—thirds since then, with the closure of more than 500 centres. today a new report by the the leading economic research group the institute for fiscal studies says sure start had major health benefits for children in poorer neighbourhoods in england. i spoke to christine farquharson who wrote the report. in our new research, we look at the impact sure start has had during the
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period it was rolled out and operating. we are the first people to provide evidence of sure start over such a long period and we found the programme had big benefits for children's health. hospitalisations at age 11 fell by 18%. did you find this was particularly prominent in poorer areas of the country? absolutely. we find the biggest benefits in the poorest neighbourhoods, whereas in the richest 30% we don't find many impacts. that provides evidence that sure start has been effective at reducing health inequalities as far as hospitalisations are concerned. what has been going on in those centres in poorer neighbourhoods which has led to that reduced admissions to hospital for kids? this is a big challenge, because there was a lot going on at sure
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sta rt centres. there was a lot going on at sure start centres. education, health care, employment support. we can't pinpoint directly what the cause is but we can say since these benefits get bigger as children get older, whatever the cause behind this, it's going to have to be something that was long lasting, potentially parenting or an improvement in behaviour. do you know what the direct savings to the nhs where from those fewer hospitalisations? between five and 11, the direct savings are around £5 million per year. when you take into account the wider benefits, for example parents being at work because they aren't looking after sick children or the lifetime costs of nasty injuries, it could be more like £65 million a year which is about 6% of total spending on shore —— on sure start. let's speak now to two mums who have
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used sure start centres — tracey relied on her local centre when her second child was born. she's based in the village of hersham in surrey and volunteers in the creche at her local sure start centre. they are now called children's centres. that centre is due to close this september because of a lack of funding. and about eight miles away from tracey isjennifer quigley — she's in fetcham just outside leatherhead. she has two children and has been using her local sure start centre with her five—month—old — but most of the services at that centre end this week — and today is the last parent and child group session. the incubator for talking to us. the incubatorfor talking to us. —— thank you both. why has your sure start centre been so vital to you? it has been vital to the whole village where we live. the support services they give, the advice, the care, the genuine love they have for the families, most of the staff are
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local themselves. its anything from arranging contact sessions to food banks vouchers, liaising with other charities to help new families into the area, obtaining grants and things like that. there is such a broad spectrum of support that they give and also liaising with other agencies, rarely, to help safeguard all of our children and our communities. for those people who don't know hersham, can you tell people if that's a wealthy or mixed area? people would think, it's an incredibly affluent area and it is, but it has huge pockets of need. we are in that 30% of the poorest areas in the country where we need that support for the families. it's an incredibly affluent area to live in. if you are very rich. but we work
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ha rd if you are very rich. but we work hard at minimum wage, trying to bring up ourfamilies, and sometimes we need that bit of support, coming to the centre and having that heart in the community where there is such a wide... the support they offer, you know, it's not about material or monetary either, its genuine care for our children and safeguarding. feedback vouchers, helping parents get back to work, cvs and things like that. some parents don't have internet at home. we come to the centre to use the printers. good morning, jennifer. who is the five—month—old? morning, jennifer. who is the five-month-old? this is my son. i also have a four—year—old as well. i've attended two sure start centres and two children's centres in surrey. i've attended weybridge and
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i also attend the trinity centre in leatherhead. i just i also attend the trinity centre in leatherhead. ijust want i also attend the trinity centre in leatherhead. i just want to ask you about the research, independent research by a respected economic think tank which suggests sure start centres have reduced hospital admissions between young children by admissions between young children by a dramatic amount in poorer neighbourhoods. that's where the effect has been most pronounced, in the poorer neighbourhoods. how do you react to that? i really understand it, because i feel it's such a scary world when you have a child. they don't come with an instruction manual. you can go, meet with other parents and talk about
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how your child is. as well as that, there is some highly trained and skilled staff you can talk to about your worries. they provide sessions and courses. these courses educate and courses. these courses educate and build confidence in the people who attend, in the mothers and fathers who attend. there are father classes as well. this is why i think these centres are so invaluable in our communities. for those who say, is this a good use of british taxpayers money but would you say? some of the staff in these centres have 20 years experience in children's health, children's upbringing. placing these centres, we will be putting more pressure on doctors because more people will be
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going to unnecessary appointments. your baby has got a rash, bring him to the sure start centre. the midwife appointments, the health visitors. all that will stop, so we will be financially relying on that. where is the support going to come from? midwives doing home visits? it will be putting pressure on gps because some of these staff have the knowledge and skills and the experience to say, that's fine, explain it. i've got a statement from the local government association. "there is a growing sense that councils have done all they can within ever—tightening budgets." they say, "without new investment from government in children's services, councils will face the difficult but unavoidable decision of having to cut or close services". they add that "children's services face a £3.1 billion funding gap by 2025" and call for the government to deliver a long—term funding solution in this
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year's spending review. the department for education say "we want every child to have the best start in life, which is why our healthy child programme means children and families receive five mandatory health visitor checks before they are two and a half. "our nhs long term plan puts tackling health inequalities at its heart, and more than 700,000 of the most disadvantaged two—year—olds have benefited from 15 hours free childcare since its introduction in 2013." more than 700,000 of the most disadvantaged two—year—olds have benefited since its introduction in 2013. i have actually got some e—mails on this. one viewer says, i found my local centre invaluable when it came to breast—feeding my first child. i feel when it came to breast—feeding my first child. ifeel sad other mothers won't benefit from the wonderful help and advice i received. there should be more centres opening or closing. another viewer says, as a midwife i know there is such a shortage of good postnatal support. in recent years
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the children's centres and their lovely staff have addressed this problem. thank you. reports of anti—muslim hate crime in the uk rocketed by nearly 600% in the week following the christchurch mosque attacks in new zeland in which 51 people were killed. now, it's been revealed that it is women who are the number one target of islamophobic abuse. and according to the group tell mama, who measure the frequency of anti—muslim attacks in the uk, its white women in headscarves who are disproportionately affected. here's bbc minute's ellie costello. i've been threatened. i've been verbally abused. i've had my head scarf pulled. i've been called a muslim slut before. it's been constant. mariam mohamed isjust 17 years old. she's grown up surrounded by anti—muslim hatred and has been the victim of race—based street harassment multiple times. her experience isn't unusual. in the years 2016 to 2018,
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hate crime rose by 40% in the uk. most religious hate crime was aimed at muslims. mariam told us what she's encountered. i was with my cousin and i was about 12 at this point. she was getting her drink and she said, "this is the bomb" and a bunch of middle—aged white people turned and they stared at us like we were terrorists and we set something off or like we were going to kill them all. theyjust see us as people with headscarves who have potential to hurt them. we're all just another like muslim terrorist to them. how common is this in your life? i feel like it's constantly there. it's been more obvious in recent years like we're not afraid to hide it. whenever someone like walks up behind you you're like, "oh, are they going to do something to me? is this person going to hurt me?" if it doesn't happen, it's kind of like you're waiting for it to happen. you expect it to happen. tell mama is a public service group which measures anti—muslim attacks. between 25 and 30% of the attacks are reported into us take
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place in public spaces. it's because there is a close proximity between the perpetrators and the victims. the perpetrator feels that he can have a go at the victim and get off at the next station. the most common place for abuse to occur is in public places, on street level and in parks and shopping centres. the second most common place is on public transport. abuse is happening on trains and buses all over the country. mariam faced abuse on the tube in london. he came and he sat next to me and pulled and said, "what's this? what's this?" i didn't know what to do at that point because i was a lot younger, so ijust straightway got up and got off the train. i was terrified. abusive or threatening incidents like this are a regular occurrence, but it's women on their own that suffer the most whilst out in public. on street level, women are the number one victims of anti—muslim hate crime. they make up 58% of all victims and in most of those cases it's male—on—female abuse.
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according to tell mama, its white women wearing headscarves that are disproportionately affected. white converts tend to be called the word "traitor" as if they're traitors to their own country, to their own religion. this is melissa. a muslim woman living in manchester who converted when she was 13. she chooses to wear a headscarf as an outward sign of her faith. women who choose to wear the headscarf when they go out in the street are quite obviously muslim. for anyone who feels this anger inside of them they're an easy target. melissa and her husband sabah say that being a mixed race couple has meant they faced judgment from some people. i've noticed that people look at you for a bit too long. maybe they're just curious. maybe they are genuiney just curious. it's bred out of this fear that women are actually allowed to make a choice and they choose to cover and that's something that they feel liberates them. the tensions that melissa and sabah
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sense on the streets are well—founded. a recent report found thatjust over a third of british people thought that islam was a threat to the british way of life. despite the growing threat that they feel out in public, melissa and sabah are hopeful for a future free of fear and hatred. some members of the british public may feel a sense of betrayal, that somehow wearing a headscarf goes against british values, which i find hard to believe because to me british culture is all about togetherness and understanding and tolerance. let's look at some live pictures of those protests in central london — there's the trump baby blimp flying in parliament square. the labour leaderjeremy corbyn is due to speak later. the shadow foreign secretary, emily thornberry, will be joining him and we can speak to her now.
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you want to be the uk is foreign secretary, your leader wants to be the prime minister. how does it serve the uk to ghost donald trump the way you are doing? we have no problem talking to donald trump, we ought to talk to him. if he had wa nted ought to talk to him. if he had wanted to see us we would have been more than happy to see him. i would have been pounding on the door to be allowed into a meeting with donald trump. i have some things i want to say to him, i think that it might have ended up in a row but i would have ended up in a row but i would have said then perfectly clearly. i don't think it's appropriate for him to have the honour of the state visit. only three presidents have ever had the honour of the state visit, and this president doesn't deserve one. look at the way in which he is behaving on the international stage. he is undermining the world order, he's allowing for the division of the west ba n k allowing for the division of the west bank by giving a nod to benjamin netanyahu. he continues to sell arms to saudi arabia even
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though senate and congress are against it. he's vetoed what they are saying... let me pause you there. jeremy corbyn went to the state banquet with the president of china, a man who persecutes various minorities and forces women to have abortions. why did he go to that but not to the state banquet with president trump? it's a very good question. it's like when you have a good friend. this is not anti—american, this is pro—americanism. america stands for all of these great values of democracy and equality and internationalism. we are going to be honouring the brave boys who came over from honouring the brave boys who came overfrom america to honouring the brave boys who came over from america to defend those values in the second world war. we are good friends and when you are good friends and your friend is doing the wrong thing, you strongly say so. i still don't understand why your leader went to the state banquet for president xi but not for
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president trump. i'm getting there. a different relationship china, which is that it's... listen, i'm not pretending they haven't got a terrible history when it comes to human rights. we are commemorating what happened in tiananmen square. it's come from being an authoritarian regime and we are hoping to put it in the right direction. it's a completely different type of relationship to our close friend america. when you have a close friend you need to be truthful and straightforward. the a nswer truthful and straightforward. the answer doesn't sound coherent. when jeremy met president xi, he met him afterwards and there were discussions and i know he raised human rights concerns with president xi. i'm trying to put forward the argument. i think it's coherent, it's the way you react to a close friend and when a close friend is doing the wrong thing and when it needs to be said. frankly, i think we have a government that is too
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wea k to we have a government that is too weak to say it, too weak to stand up to him and make it clear. you're not saying anything to donald trump either because you're turning your back on him. you're snubbing him. i'm not. the difference between a state visit and an ordinary visit is the point. that honour shouldn't have been given to him and it would be hypocritical of me to go to a state banquet after saying i don't think we should have a state visit. i'm concerned he's using pictures of the queen with his family as some kind of election backdrop. we shouldn't be involved in this and we shouldn't be involved in this and we should be stronger. summer also accuse you of double standards for calling donald trump a sexual predator when it's reported jeremy corbyn and his team failed to suspend john prescott‘s son over allegations of sexual harassment. are double standards? i'm really sorry, i don't know the details. i
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certainly think anyone who is guilty of sexual harassment within the labour party, anyone guilty of racism, we should be suspending people like that and have a robust process. complaints process be removed from the labour party's power structures ? removed from the labour party's power structures? —— should the complaints process. it will be interesting to see what the human rights commission says when they've finished their enquiry. i've been pressing for some time for us to have a strong, robust complaints process within the labour party where we deal with these issues quickly. i'm not pretending we don't have problems in the labour party, nor, if you think about the sort of allegations that have happened in other parties, with the conservative party obviously being one of them. i don't hold them to our standards, we should be better than the conservative party. this is my labour party and i do not expect there to be sexual harassment happening all racism within the
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labour party. i want it rooted out and i've been perfectly clear about that. i'm a member of the shadow cabinet not the nec and i don't have a role in terms of root and branch reform of what may be happening within the party itself, but i've made my views completely clear and that doesn't change the fact that donald trump is a sexual predator. thank you. emily thornberry will be joining the protests after 11am. the press co nfe re nce joining the protests after 11am. the press conference between president trump and theresa may is at tpn. —— 2pm. so why was donald trump so keen to come here and bring his whole family? was it the honour — and status — a state visit confers? the images of the president at buckingham palace yesterday, being greeted by the queen and inspecting the guard were beamed
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across american tv screens. one close confidant of mr trump, media executive christopher ruddy told the bbc: "this is a president that loves brands — and the queen has the greatest brand in the world." to discuss that now is ellen barry from the new york times. she has written about donald trump's admiration for the queen. also here is laura trott, who was an advisor to former prime minister david cameron when then us president barack obama visited the uk. she is now a lobbyist at public relations company, portland pr. welcome. what's for dinner last night everything that president trump could have wished for? absolutely. our president is an iconoclast, he loves to take down sacred towers but if there's one person for whom he really has respect verging on reverence, it's the queen of england. he looked in all of her as he was standing and sitting next to her. —— in awe of
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her. when he was six years old he watched the coronation with his mother on tv. he said his mother barely moved all day and his father, who had very little time for the monarchy, was running it down saying they are all con artists but he said his mother was entranced and she would not be separated from that show. you were advising prime minister cameron when president obama visited the uk. from what you can see president trump's visit, what had been the differences? volley that was very policy oriented. -- that was very policy oriented. -- that was very policy oriented. you haven't seen that this time around. it's been a lot of demonstrations, formalities, but the policy substance hasn't been there as much. president trump has met bishops and members of the royal
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family and extended royalfamily bishops and members of the royal family and extended royal family and business leaders. not real people, i mean they're not not real, excuse my language but you know what i mean. the great and the good of the british public, in the way that sometimes the obama patients wanted to. of course they are hand—picked as well. yes, there is a huge amount of planning that goes into these things. nothing is spontaneous. but it was their view that was what they wanted to do. these visits are guided by the atmosphere the president wants to create and they we re president wants to create and they were keen to go out to meet young people, to be influenced by some of the people who carry out their policy priorities. this isn't what you've seen this time around. these pictures being beamed back to the usa, can you explain how they may help president trump when it comes to his three election campaign? i'm not convinced this will have a big electoral effect. his policies are so divisive that people have reached
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their opinion on them long ago. so this will make no difference?m makes an enormous amount of difference to president trump. i think he's being endorsed by the elite of the elite. i think that's what it means to him. in terms of ordinary voters, i doubt it would have a major difference. how much is the chemistry between a prime minister under president key to the relationship between the two countries or does it not matter? but here absolutely key. there will a lwa ys here absolutely key. there will always be difficulties and things you on. huawei is a classic example. those things will be ameliorated by a good chemistry, and ability to talk and communicate. even if one leader is on their way out? it doesn't matter what she says, does it? you've seen a decent amount of respect shown by president trump for
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the prime minister. i think that's a sign they have a good working relationship and have been able to move things forward during her time in numberio. move things forward during her time in number10. thank move things forward during her time in number 10. thank you. move things forward during her time in number10. thank you. i want move things forward during her time in number 10. thank you. i want to read some messages about emily thornberry. one viewer says, read some messages about emily thornberry. one viewersays, it read some messages about emily thornberry. one viewer says, it was 0k thornberry. one viewer says, it was ok then for your leader corbyn to meet the president of china? because he's a good friend of ours. good luck in the next general election. another viewer says, i was a labour supporter untiljeremy corbyn decided not to go to the state banquet. he has shunned the people who died for this country. he's not a leader at all. another viewer, emily thornberry has double standards and is playing political games. trump is here for d—day, show some respect. hip—hop's has its first official billionaire, according to american
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business magazine forbes. jay z who once said i'm not a businessman — i'm a business. . . man. and he has wealth now "conservatively totalling" $1 billion — that's £800 million. and his wife — beyonce — she's worth a cool $500 million. let's take a listen. # tell by my attitude that i'm most definitely from... # in new york. # concrete jungle where dreams are made of. # there's nothin' you can't do. # now you're in new york. # these streets will make you feel brand new. # big lights will inspire you. # let's hear it for new york, new york, new york #. newsbeat‘s jimmy blake is with me now. so, jay—z is most famous for his music — how much of his fortune is made up from that? his music actually only makes a small chunk of that. i say a small
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chunk, $75 million is his music. a load of other stuff he has money from. he's a man who has made money from. he's a man who has made money from the culture around him. artists and businessmen enjoy drinking champagne, he created a champagne business. he has shares in a cognac company, $410 million is what he has shares ina company, $410 million is what he has shares in a cognac company, $410 million is what he's made. artists have complained about the amount of money they make from streaming sites, so he created tidal. that's worth $100 million to him. he also has shares in labour and has high end art companies and collections of estates all around the world. is there anyone else in the world of music who is close to getting to the billion milestone? a lot of people thought dr dre was the first official billionaire when he sold his beats company to apple. but he only has $470 million. someone hot on their tail is ed sheeran. his tours around the world
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have earned him hundreds of millions of pounds. he's only 28 but some people predict by the time he's 30 he could reach the billion pound. billion pound or billion dollars? billion pound or billion dollars? billion pound or billion dollars? billion pound for ed sheeran, the other $2 billion. well, the protests against president trump's visit are about to start in trafalgar square. our reporter leigh milner is there. there is apparently a big delay so we will do our best. tell us about the build—up. we will do our best. tell us about the build-up. yes, well, he's made a comeback to parliament square. he's metres away from downing street where the president will be holding talks with the prime minister. it's six metres tall and as you can see, he's only raised about eight feet off the ground. a bit underwhelming, to be honest. i've been assured he will be lifted high into the skies so that everybody can see him. he's
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attracted lots of people. people have even taken the day off work to be here. thank you. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. cool and cloudy as the order of the day. what there are bright intervals, many of us will see a few showers or longer spells of rain as the day goes on. underneath the cloud or with the rain it will feel quite cool. he is the main feature working into south—west england, up
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into wales, north—west england and the midlands. gradually pushing north and east widths. could be heavy at times and the odd rumble of thunder as possible. showers in the south—east pushing up into east anglia. the best of the financial dry weather through northern scotland. the blustery wind is gradually easing. in the far south—east we could see temperatures reach 21. feeling cool elsewhere. overnight, the rain continues feeling heavy and persistent across northern ireland. elsewhere, through england and wales it turns drier. clear spells emerging and where it's been damp we could have some mist around.
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this is bbc news at 11 o'clock. i'm annita mcveigh in downing street where president trump will arrive shortly. the red carpet is going out on the steps behind me as the focus turns from the pomp and ceremony of yesterday to the business end. this morning the president, along with theresa may, has been meeting business leaders from both sides of the atlantic at st james' palace. he'll then head here to number 10 — for talks theresa may and senior ministers on issues including climate change, huawei and iran.
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