this is bbc news at 11 o'clock. i'm annita mcveigh in downing street where president trump will arrive shortly. the red carpet is going out on the steps behind me as the focus turns from the pomp and ceremony of yesterday to the business end. this morning the president, along with theresa may, has been meeting business leaders from both sides of the atlantic at st james' palace. he'll then head here to number 10 — for talks theresa may and senior ministers on issues including climate change, huawei and iran. i'm joanna gosling at buckingham palace —

it's day two of the president's state visit, but not everyone is happy to see him. thousands of people are expected to protest in london and cities across the uk against president trump's vist — jeremy corbyn will address a rally in whitehall. good morning from downing street. you may be able to see the red carpet. it is out in place just in the last couple of moments for donald trump house arrival. after

all of the pomp and ceremony and the meetings of the queen and the royals, which he clearly enjoyed, todayis royals, which he clearly enjoyed, today is about business, politics, and protest as well. for people who do not want to see the president here, certainly not on a state visit. there will be bilateral talks going on today with theresa may. not one on one, but with members of the team. just over two hours ago, the president touched down in his helicopter, marine one, in the grounds of buckingham palace after spending the night at the us ambassador‘s then moved for a drive down the mall to st james's palace, where the breakfast meeting was taking place. you can see the chancellor layer. the foreign secretary is also there. ivanka

trump as well. and with us and uk business leaders. in the next few minutes, president trump and the first lady will arrive at downing street. a short journey first lady will arrive at downing street. a shortjourney to here where they will have talks before a business lunch. and this evening, the president and melania trump will have a return dinner, after the banquet at buckingham palace last night, at the residents with the duchess of cornwall and prince of wales who will attend on behalf of the queen. let's talk now to norman smith, who is with me here. this is a strange one, isn't it, the timing is very odd with theresa may standing down as leader of the conservative party on friday, and as prime minister next month. what does

that due to the dynamics of today?” think it makes it a much more low and muted affair. donald trump is going to be thinking, is there any point in this meeting? quite generous comments this morning from donald trump, to telling theresa may to stick around for the trade deal. that is not happening. she will be out as prime minister by the end of july, i will think. just saying to her, there are great opportunities, we can do a trade deal. clearly he does not want to make life more difficult and uncomfortable far higher than it already is. for theresa may, a bittersweet moment. she would have hoped that donald trump would be the moment when she delivered on brexit and now she could seal this new trade deal. instead, it is a slightly sad event for her. it is probably her last major political moment, her last big

news conference. there is a valedictory feel to it. i guess she must be tempted, the mac to some extent, to defend her handling of brexit. the president has already been critical of it in newspaper articles. we havejeremy corbyn down the road speaking to protesters, the decision gone down well in the labour party, but a lot of criticism elsewhere, including from liam fox. we are the fourth biggest military budget in the world and we take global security responsibilities very seriously. we have a cabinet seat on the security council. there are those very strong bonds which are those very strong bonds which are being celebrated. i thought it was so are being celebrated. i thought it was so bad the leader of the opposition stayed away. the president is the guest of the united kingdom and he seems to want to

alienate the united states, as well as dropping our nuclear weapons, which have been the preservation of the peace for so long. labour folk are saying there is nothing anti—trump, sorry anti—american about addressing the rally. they wa nt to about addressing the rally. they want to make a point about the values and language used, it is a protest against donald trump, not america. our position goes like this — that of course we do business with donald trump, and it's not that we're boycotting donald trump, if he wants to see us, we are more than happy to see him, and more than happy to discuss matters with him. but we don't think it is appropriate for him to have a state visit, and we never have. a state visit is an honour and we don't think that this president deserves an honour. the shadow foreign secretary there. of course donald trump is going to have an eye on who might follow theresa may as prime minister, and a

big field. we are hearing thatjames matt cleverley has dropped out. there are questions of whether there are too many candidates in the running. ——james are too many candidates in the running. —— james cleverley. who are you hearing of who donald trump might meet of who i standing? there are unconfirmed reports but we have heard that michael gove is to have a one to one with donald trump. that is slightly surprising because when the president was asked about michael gove the other day in a newspaper interview, and we were told he was doing quite well, the president said, all the way from wales, as if michael gove came from wales. i am wales, as if michael gove came from wales. iam not wales, as if michael gove came from wales. i am not sure how close their relationship is if he thinks michael gove as a welshman. he might be getting to know him better, by the sounds of it. let's hope so or it could be talking at cross purposes. there are unconfirmed reports that

michael gove will be having a meeting with donald trump. that would be a huge cap for michael gove because the assumption was that it was borisjohnson who was the most likely to have those meetings. if you calculate that the showdown, the last two men standing, are likely to beat boris johnson and last two men standing, are likely to beat borisjohnson and michael gove, it will be, you know, a boost for michael gove if he could turn around and say, i was the one the president wa nted and say, i was the one the president wanted to see. as i say, that is not confirmed. but it would be a pest for michael gove if it is correct. there could also potentially be a meeting with borisjohnson. donald trump endorsed last year and this time around as well borisjohnson. trump endorsed last year and this time around as well boris johnson.” would not overstate the impact of donald trump on the leadership election. there are other factors, most importantly brexit, at work here which i going to be much more

important than whoever donald trump has tea with. i will expect that will be forgotten by the time members vote in this race. it will not be a key decision. but for michael gove, it is quite a coup if he manages to pull it off and maybe that doesn't boost his standing. this morning in a surprise twist, we found out that liam fox, another prominent tory brexiteer, he is not backing a brexiteer, he is backing jeremy hunt. that is a surprise and a visit byjeremy hunt because he ran into grief after a few days ago he recommended was brexiteers by advocating suicide. the tory contest never go according to plan. jeremy hunt the foreign secretary going into number ten right now. another leadership contender, as you were

just saying. i love the way larry the cat is not bothered by anyone. he is sitting on the windowsill, having a clean, not fussed about the red carpet. this is nothing new for him. he is accustomed all this media attention. we are looking at some shots of the presidential motorcade and all that that entails. it is quite a phenomenon moving through central london. the shortjourney from the palace to hear at downing street. they should be with us very soon. street. they should be with us very soon. let's stay with these shots as we pick up on the last point you we re we pick up on the last point you were making, for all of donald trump house talk if the uk, and his words, brea ks house talk if the uk, and his words, breaks away from the shackles, there could be a substantial trade deal, thatis could be a substantial trade deal, that is not a straightforward proposition for the uk or the united states. no, donald trump has rarely talked it up, including this morning

saying it could be a substantial deal, huge opportunities. but we know trade deals are complex. back issues are at stake, including the trade deal with america, concerns whether they want access to nhs procurement, concerns about whether they would want access for us agriculture. it will not be a straightforward job, it could last for yea rs straightforward job, it could last for years and years, and is likely to be complicated and protracted process. in the us, democrats have been saying, if any brexit deal leads to a hard border on the island of ireland, are implications for the good friday agreement, congress would not be letting it through. there is a way to go with the brexit process. we are going to be an eu land for some considerable time to come, unless, october the land for some considerable time to come, unless, octoberthe 31st, we leave without any agreement. i

suggest the tide is beginning to turn any leadership contest and more and more i saying we are not taking no deal off the table, but we are not keen on it. people like matt hancock saying it is not an option they want to look at. it only really leaves the likes of dominic raab, borisjohnson, andrea leaves the likes of dominic raab, boris johnson, andrea leadsom leaves the likes of dominic raab, borisjohnson, andrea leadsom as those saying, no, we have to leave on october 31. there is a big question, as we look over our shoulder, to see if there's sign of the president, in the future if we wa nt to the president, in the future if we want to keep those closer links with the eu, whether any deal with the us would come at a price of severing some of those links. it is a factor but i have a future tory leader or prime minister wants to do, what can they do? it is questionable whether they do? it is questionable whether they could actually pursue a no—deal

brexit because we know parliament is dead set against a no—deal brexit. while it is argued there is no legislation to block in ordeal brexit, it is very hard to see how any prime minister could take us out against the wishes of parliament. the gates to downing street are opening, and here comes the distinctive, ever so distinctive, cadillac, the beast, carrying the president. norman, it is important to note that this isn't going to be a bilateral, in the truest sense of the word, it is a much bigger group of people that the president is meeting. it is not going to be that intimate, one—on—one, eyeball to eye ball intimate, one—on—one, eyeball to eyeball discussion between two leaders, it is going to be a much

more wide ranging discursive meeting, involving different ministers. jeremy hunt we just start going and is going to be part of that meeting and other officials, which means it is not going to be an occasion where crucial decisions are going to be made, more a moment where the two sides set out what are well versed concerns on both sides, without anyone expecting any key decisions. camera shutters almost drowns out the sound of the helicopters ahead, as the first lady and president arrived. theresa may and president arrived. theresa may and philip mae coming out of number ten to the couple. melania trump spent time with philip last year during that working visit while the president and theresa may had their

meetings. so the two couples are now standing on the steps of downing street, just a a few days before theresa may stands down as the leader of the conservative party. and, norman, your thoughts on what we are seeing? it is a final farewell for theresa may, her last big moment, i guess, on the world stage. she will attend the d—day commemorations, but in terms of a major political moment, this is her farewell. it is a moment she would have hoped turned out very differently, she would have liked to have been this moment when she had completed a brexit deal, looking forward to a trade agreement with donald trump. instead, we have a

much more subdued, low—key meeting. there will still be the news conference afterwards, which will be interesting in terms of more broadly looking ahead at the relations with our two countries. the key verticals are not going to be addressed here, they will be addressed when we know who succeeds theresa may. it is interesting, if michael gove is having that one on one. donald trump keeps closely abreast of british politics, he seems to be cleared up. does the fact he is meeting michael gove suggests in his mind that maybe he should not just gove suggests in his mind that maybe he should notjust meet boris johnson, he should meet michael gove, because maybe he is going to be the next person in downing street. perhaps the president is keeping his options open, does not wa nt to keeping his options open, does not want to decide with one camp or the other. it is striking, he always

seems incredibly well informed about the brexit issues, how progress is going with the eu and always has a view on it. i wonder whether someone has said to him... the us ambassador alongside ivanka trump, going into downing street now. ivanka trump close by her father's side throughout this state visit, norman. she was at that banquet last night and he clearly sees her as someone who could follow in his footsteps, when we consider those american trends of the gnostic politics. when we consider those american trends of the gnostic politicsm is extraordinary the role of the family in politics. —— dynasty politics. we have the kennedy years, bush years, and i will be on the verge of the trump years? we will have to wait and see. he is having a

meeting in the back of downing street. not a great day for it, it has clouded over. not a great moment in the gardens of downing street. contrasting to when barack obama was here, he did the barbecue with david cameron on a gloriously sunny day. more overcast today so maybe they will not hang around in the garden. hopefully the rain will keep our. an observation, people here see their fairshare of observation, people here see their fair share of big visitors, but staff looking out to see the arrivals of the trumps. it is a day of protest as well, a reminder of how controversial the president is here in the uk on a range of issues. the decision byjeremy corbyn to protest a nd the decision byjeremy corbyn to protest and to speak to the demonstration, you know, maybe not surprising, givenjeremy corbyn's

background. he spent 20 or 30 years being critical of american policy in latin america and the middle east and the election of president trump saw a turbocharger in opposition to many american policies, that said, it does raise the question mark of what happens ifjeremy corbyn does become the prime minister? he will have to engage with donald trump, he cannot close the door of number ten and not pick up the phone. you will have to talk to the president. i think the concerned must surely be whether relations will have been soured already by the fact that jeremy corbyn has taken such a prominent role in addressing presentations, in tweeting against donald trump. we know the president isa man donald trump. we know the president is a man who, frankly, bears grudges. he comes out fighting against those who he believes has lightened him. he takes his politics

personally, we saw that with sadiq khan yesterday. what would that mean in terms of anglo—american relations ifjeremy corbyn would get into downing street? he would have to do some sort of fence mending and i would suggest that would be an extraordinary difficult task. much is in extraordinary difficult task. much isina extraordinary difficult task. much is in a state of flux. for the moment, thank you very much. there is the image from downing street, the motorcade now waiting as this meeting and working lunch and meeting and working lunch and meeting with other senior cabinet ministers takes place. let's find out a bit more now about the protests a nd out a bit more now about the protests and cross to our correspondent who is in parliament square area where the trump baby balloon is a loft. are protest going to be as big this time round, compared to last year's protest on working visit? at the moment, i

wouldn't say so. looking around, there is around a couple of hundreds people here, but not on the same scale. it has been nicknamed the carnival of resistance. take a look at this, we have theresa may here with the president. 0ver at this, we have theresa may here with the president. over on my far right hand side behind my cameraman, is donald trump in a cage dressed as a gorilla with borisjohnson. certainly a carnival atmosphere. to top it all off, we do have the blimp which isjust over top it all off, we do have the blimp which is just over here. top it all off, we do have the blimp which isjust over here. it top it all off, we do have the blimp which is just over here. it has top it all off, we do have the blimp which isjust over here. it has been kept this law because of the strong winds. the countdown was at ten o'clock and it has gathered a couple of hundred people here this morning. the reason being in parliament square is because not only is it the

place it was lifted last year, but it is only a couple of metres away from downing street, where president trump is due to have talks with the prime minister. as i had been waiting here for the past couple of hours, more and more protesters have been arriving. we have seen more police presence here as well. we know that behind my cameraman as well, there is a road that goes to downing street and that is where president trump will be taking to visit the prime minister. no doubt he will see this. it is hard to mess, six metres tall, it has gathered so much attention today and it will continue throughout the day. 0k, thank you very much for that. we brought you the news a short while ago that one of the contenders for the conservative leadership to become the next prime minister has decided to withdraw from the race.

james cleverly mp and we can talk to him now. good morning. why have you made this decision so soon after you entered the race? the race to become the next leader of the conservative party started during recess. 0ver the last few days i have been running parliamentary colleagues, as well as wider members of the conservative party, and whilst i have been getting a huge amount of support, it has become increasingly clear that i do not think the parliamentary party is ready to make the leap of faith that would require them to making someone who is relatively new member of parliament, like myself, forward to the last two. with a heavy heart, i have decided to withdraw from the race. do you think the race, as it stands, there are too many candidates in the running? i have always felt that this should be a debate about the

future of the conservative party and the country, rather than a retrospective of the three years over brexit. clearly, brexit has been overshadowing a lot of this debate. i think we do still need to have this debate about the future of the country and i hope that will continue. as i say, i do not feel i have the numbers required to have a realistic chance of getting through to the final two. who then do you think is best placed to take the country think is best placed to take the cou ntry forward think is best placed to take the country forward as leader of the conservatives and as prime minister? who will you be backing? well, i have spent the time thinking about my own candidacy, my policies and ideas and i have not been thinking about other people. i am going to ta ke about other people. i am going to take some time to look in more detail as to the positions that other candidates are taking. i will not be making any decision just yet. i will give it some thought because a decision of this importance, that

is the right thing to do. would you be willing to say who you think is most on the same song sheet as you are? no, asi most on the same song sheet as you are? no, as i say, i am going to give it some thought, some time and when i make a decision, i want to make sure i have really taken in all the positions that people have put forward. iam not the positions that people have put forward. i am not going to make any decisions or announcements just yet. perhaps you could tell us more about those soundings that you took from the grass roots of the party and how that contributed to your decision not to go ahead. well, i was getting a lot of support from the grass roots. i do think there is an appetite within the party to have in you face, a new voice, new agenda. but in order to have that conversation with the wider party, i would need to get through to the final two and that required asking my parliamentary colleagues to take

what i always knew was going to be a big leap of faith, and having spoken to my parliamentary colleagues, whilst i have had some support, it has been clear to me that i won't realistically have enough to get through to the final two. therefore, the only sensible thing for me to do is to withdraw from the competition. i have always been an optimist, but numbers are numbers and i did not have the numbers. obviously, your party leader talking to donald trump in downing street now. what advice might you give to whoever the person is who follows her in terms of any future trade talks? first of all, the uk has to know what their future relationship with the eu looks like, but what advice would you give with the trade talks with united states? would you give any? ?” the trade talks with united states? would you give any?? i think having just announced i am going to withdraw, it would be inappropriate

for me to start dictating on how the prime minister interacts with the president of the united states. the usa is our closest defence partner, defence partner, largest trading partner as a nation, i think it is incredibly important we maintain a strong and close relationship with the president of united of america, and by extension through him, to the country as a whole. james cleverly, thank you for your time. who has decided to withdraw from the race to become the next conservative leader and prime minister. someone who has not withdrawn from the race is michael gove and we can now confirm that the president has indeed asked to meet michael gove, although we do not have any details as yet of what

form that meeting will take, or when it will happen. as i was discussing with norman, that is very interesting, much of the speculation has been around whether donald trump would be meeting borisjohnson, who he has sat on a couple of occasions has said he would make a good prime minister. does that prove michael gove chances? —— improve michael gove's chances. it get him noticed ina gove's chances. it get him noticed in a crowded leadership contest. whilst those meetings are going on, let's ta ke whilst those meetings are going on, let's take stock at buckingham palace. thank you very much. yes, the red carpet is at downing street because that is where the focus is politically. there has been a working breakfast this morning with theresa may, business leaders from here and the united states. lets talk more about a trade deal and business link. we can talk to an

academic who co—authored a book with donald trump on trade. hejoins us from florida. welcome and thank you for joining from florida. welcome and thank you forjoining us. at the out of the conversations this morning, donald trump said to theresa may, i do not know what your timing is, but stick around, let's do a deal. how productive do you think this trip is going to be? i am hoping it will be very productive. i am not the co—author, i am the co—author with the dotted up thank you for the correction. how likely is this trip are likely to be? i think it is an opportunity for president trump to lead with you at leading candidates for prime minister, and as brexit goes forward, i think groundwork for a trade deal could be put together. iam also a trade deal could be put together. i am also hoping the british people can get whatever they want out of

their system and exercise their right to free speech, and we can move forward on issues, after personalities have been dealt with. tell us a bit more about what you mean by that, because you are referring to the protests. certainly it is exciting to see onjune the 4th, the date the chinese government ran over so many protesters 30 years ago, seeing the uk people using their right to free speak in relation to the values that we share. i think that is good and hopefully we get that out of everybody‘s system and we can deal with the practical matters of trade and other things that bring our countries together. there is an opportunity there economically and it would be foolish of us not to pursue it. president trump, by his nature, makes these negotiations very personal. before he landed in

this country, he was tweeting about the mayor of london, calling him a stone cold loser, when he is talking about the deal that can be negotiated, it has been said that there is a suggestion that if the united kingdom were to use the company in the 5g network, america would use that as a reason to stop security cooperation between the two nations, is that the sight of where the president should be handling these sorts of negotiations? on the huawei case, absolutely. that is a security threat. it is not a left or right political matter. in the case of the mayor, the mayor said a few things that are less than kind about the president so i think that is what it is. the president is certainly a worse iplayer perhaps than that mayor when responding. but

it has not been a one—way communication. regarding huawei, you cannot have an authoritarian state, murdered thousands of their own kids, tanks and machine guns, it is insane to have them winning your communications. i have no idea why it is not a bigger issue in britain. we cannot allow that in the united states. thank you very much for joining us. we are hoping to speak to the london mayor sadiq khan shortly. welcome to you. let's go back to what happened in downing street. there was no handshake between the president and the prime minister which seems significant. between the president and the prime minister which seems significantm seemed cold. it seemed very familiar. these are two leaders who have been talking a lot. they have seen have been talking a lot. they have seen each other, they are not on the same page and this is a prime

minister who is in herfinal days and is listening to an american president to talk about other people who might succeed her so it is not surprising that it not the warmest relationship, that it is not a terribly one moment but it is unusual to see two leaders and nonetheless the president of the united states of america, the prime minister of the united kingdom, and they just went straight into work mode. yes. you don't want to overplay something but it does feel like it was something deliberate when it is a state visit, it is the president, i am when it is a state visit, it is the president, iam not when it is a state visit, it is the president, i am not sure it has happened before where a world leader admits the prime minister on the steps of downing street and there is no fob or handshake for the cameras. it isa no fob or handshake for the cameras. it is a sign of times, really. they went straight in to what should be quite difficult talks. the american president has made it very clear that he is going to press theresa may and any potential future leader on the uk's position with respect to

china, huawei, and the threat to walk back intelligence sharing between the us and uk. that is a very significant card to play. we are also likely to see the prime minister push back on iran, climate, any of issues. a nice meeting was the breakfast, the president was presumably very much in his comfort zone talking to american and british business leaders trying to open up and extend cooperation but i think these talks that are taking place now will be more difficult. we are seeing pictures of around the table for these talks. there is not going to be separate talks between the pm and the president. it doesn't make sense, does it? she is on her way out, he knows she is a weak and

won't be able to do any deals. she won't be able to do any deals. she won't be able to do any deals. she won't be that person who negotiates a free trade deal, she will not see the uk through brexit, she doesn't really have any h, and this is a president who has —— she doesn't really have any h and this is a president who moves very quickly. president trump says things that are dismissive and as we know he is not the most diplomatic president that america has ever had but i think what he is really looking to achieve on this visit was really about yesterday. it was the ceremony, the images. today we are going to move into a much harder edge and i think that press conference, very unclear how that press conference will go. he will continue to signal where he would like to see the uk go to

become fully independent, a country he can deal with bilaterally. his preference for boris johnson he can deal with bilaterally. his preference for borisjohnson comes out of that instinct to work with people who are not constrained by many of the norms of what we have come to expect in a western liberal democracies. interesting you mention borisjohnson. as democracies. interesting you mention boris johnson. as far as democracies. interesting you mention borisjohnson. as far as we know, he is not meeting borisjohnson but he will be meeting michael gove. the huawei issue and the trade talks is being talked about a lot and it is a very specific element of a much bigger picture but it is interesting because of the way it is being handled that if you do business with huawei in the uk, you can forget security cooperation with us in the us. how hard is it going to be for the uk to resist that sort of deal—making? the uk to resist that sort of deal-making? it puts the uk in a very difficult position. as we know,

the british government has wanted to treat this very much as a matter of technology, can we work out a way of engaging huawei in ways that are saved that keep our national security fully protected, and it has been left to gchq and the experts to make that determination. but there isa make that determination. but there is a range of opinions and that is one of the issues that will be inserted into this question of who is the next reader because the candidates are taking harder lines, some are taking harder lines and others. i think trump is trying to move that debate. it is a difficult position for the uk to be in, of course, giving up that access to huawei technology is a significant thing to do. the uk has wanted to have a much more pragmatic approach to china than america wants to take right now. it is potentially a very significant dividing line and one that this president is willing to push quite hard on. thank you very

much indeed. we will have a smart reaction from here a little later. for back to downing street. thank you very much. let's talk a little bit about some detail that we are getting from that business meeting this morning, the business first. the president of the prime minister to stick around to do a trade deal with the united states. he said there was a great opportunity to do a very substantial trade deal and said stick around, let's do a deal. let's get a reaction from norman smith. a slightly odd thing to say. he know she is going. he does, i think it isjust he know she is going. he does, i think it is just a pleasantry. he is trying to be kind to her and he doesn't want to make it any more awkward or difficult than it already is. he is not suggesting that

somehow she might miraculously carry on and do this trade deal because thatis that is not an option. she is leaving, standing down on friday. anyway, trade deals that take a long, time to put together so under the prime minister will have to spend years trying to put this together. i think it is indicative of the fact for donald trump, he wants to make this as painless as possible for the prime minister. there is no mileage in making this difficult or hard for her. he wants to get through this, her. he wants to get through this, he wants a ceremonial pictures with the palace, he is not looking for political controversy with theresa may. nonetheless, the staff and officials around two is a map must be holding their breath before the news co nfe re nce be holding their breath before the news conference later today. we all know he is not a president who stays toa know he is not a president who stays to a message. he could potentially say anything. he could. we have all fa ct say anything. he could. we have all fact that in now is that we would be surprised if he didn't say something

outrageous. we expect it. i don't know what else he could say. he has already said he thinks borisjohnson is fantastic, no deal is fine, we should have pushed for a harder sta nce should have pushed for a harder stance in the negotiation, we should have sued the eu. what is the question that he answers that trumps that? it is not clear to me. he has put out his views clearly. in a curious way, i think the interest in this news conference might be more mrs made. this is her last moment, farewell, goodbye to the international stage. we saw her in tea rs international stage. we saw her in tears when she did her speech here the other day. i'm not saying she will break down in tears but the temptation must be to put down a marker. i wonder whether she will do that in terms of a brexit deal. we all these leadership candidates faffing around, talking about the backsto ps faffing around, talking about the backstops and going over the same terrain that she has gone over. i wonder if there is a temptation to

say the deal i negotiated, you knock it down, but it is the best going. now look at you all, you are talking about the same things i talked about. talking about some extension, renegotiating the backstop. she may be more interesting than donald trump even though he is a great showman. thank you very much, norman. yesterday morning, even before air force one touched down, let mejust come before air force one touched down, let me just come back to what i was going to tell you about in a moment because we are adjusting some from inside downing street. we are waiting to see if these images move to reveal a little more of the interior of the prime minister's home. they are not showing us a great deal at the moment apart from a very nice piece of art. but come back to those images from inside downing street in a moment. i was

about to say that day one of the state visit, the controversy began even before air force one has touched down at stansted airport yesterday morning donald trump are tweeting in personal terms at times about the mayor of london sadiq khan. sadiq khan joins about the mayor of london sadiq khan. sadiq khanjoins me now. thank you for your time today. first of all, i wondered what the author box are. have you had the opportunities to see the images of the red carpet being rolled out on the steps of downing street? i know that although you don't object to being here, you object to it being a state visit.” think it is really important that we have good relations with the us and that includes the president. they are our closest ally and we have a special relationship in my objection is for him to receive a state visit, a state banquet, and all that it entails. we have to be careful about giving the impression that we

condone some of the things that he has said and done over the last few yea rs, has said and done over the last few years, from separating children from their parents and mexican border to using racist derogatory and offensive language, to walking away from the paris climate change agreement, to rolling back the progress made on lgbt plus rights, are rolling back reproductive rights of women. i am also worried about the fact that the far right movement around the world sees donald trump as their poster boy in countries like hungary, france, even this country. these that were on the fringes of far right extreme views, now normalised because they have been showcased by donald trump. we have been attacked on social media for referring to donald trump in these terms. do you think it is useful to take him on in these spats, if i can call than that,

between you on social media? is that the best, most effective way of getting your message across, do you think, and your opposition to what he stands for? i am a bit surprised that the president of the usa would speak like that the president of the usa would speaklike an that the president of the usa would speak like an 11—year—old and result name—calling. if he wants to have a discussion, and i would welcome that, about the issues we disagree about i would do that. it is important to express to him theresa may's concerns. we have always had incoming religious freedom, equality, and this several weeks when we commemorate d—day landings, the sacrifices made by brave men and women from the uk, usa, new zealand, australia, canada, other allies,

which is about these religious freedoms and equality, we should be remembering that these were hard—fought remembering that these were hard —fought rights and remembering that these were hard—fought rights and i worry that you have got the lead of america who is seen as a poster boy for far right movements across the globe. there has been a suggestion that in this latest encounter between the two on twitter, that you are the one that started it. how respond to that? sorry, i didn't hear that. let me repeat that. there has been suggestions that in this latest encounter on twitter between yourself and the president that you we re yourself and the president that you were the one who started it. how do you respond to that? this all began when donald trump was running to become the president and he said he wa nted become the president and he said he wanted to ban all muslims from going to the usa, but he would make an exception for me as the mayor of london. and i in a courteous manner explain to donald trump that there

is nothing exceptional about me. i think his policy was a bad policy. i know many americans who are proud americans but also proud muslims. muslims around the world love who love america want to go there to study, on a holiday, to invest, to work there, and this policy sends the wrong message. it gives the impression that islam is incompatible with the west. that letter name—calling from donald trump which led to him saying beastly things. i am making a more serious point. it is not about me name—calling. 0ne serious point. it is not about me name—calling. one of the about having a special relationship is akin to having a best friend. 0ur expectations are higher than for normal friend expectations are higher than for normalfriend or acquaintance. expectations are higher than for normal friend or acquaintance. some of the things our best friend is saying or doing we disagree with. that is not saying we stop living in america. having a special relationship, but we disagree with some of the things he is saying. if we cannot be honest and candid with our best friend, they are not really a best friend. do you regret,

though, in any sense as saying that donald trump was akin a 20th century fascist? when you look at the far right playbook being used around the world, that by the way, donald trump's, campaign manager is teaching. you go to other countries and this country and... history tells us that what these people do is to try to divide communities, pick on minority communities and pick on minority communities and pick on minority communities and pick on marginalised communities, the scapegoat then and stoke up fears. i think they should be called at and one of the jobs fears. i think they should be called at and one of thejobs i have is we see diversity of strength, we stand up see diversity of strength, we stand upfor our see diversity of strength, we stand up for our values and when our best friend who we love, their lead in the same things we disagree with,

say to them think you are wrong and you should realise you are giving comfort and mainstreaming these fringe fees. bye you are accustomed to the rough and tumble of politics, political life, but were you on a personal level offended by the comments to president trump made in those tweets yesterday morning?” was working and later on i was told that he had said the tweet.” thought it was a joke. it is not for me to respond in a like manner. as politicians, we're used to debate, sometimes is heated, sometimes discreet but name calling is beneath me andi discreet but name calling is beneath me and i would hope any world leader. we heard the later lever -- we had the later lever —— we heard

that labour leader is speaking at a demonstration. do you think it right thatjeremy corbyn should be so publicly involved in his protest today when i believe he attended a state banquet for the chinese leader? i thinkjeremy corbyn could doa leader? i thinkjeremy corbyn could do a really good job speaking for himself but what i would say is this, the expectations we have our closest ally and our best friend are different from the expectations we have from china. we expect more from our closest ally and it really important that we make sure we make clear the concerns we have. what you see today i suspect is people not just from london but from across the country expressing concern that our allies should have these fees. that does not distract from the fact we

love america. many of us with the sum of that thing the founding father said from jefferson to washing down lincoln. we are disappointed that the current president says the things he does and holds a he does but also does the things he does. i think we face a climate emergency so walking away from the paris climate accord is a bad idea. ithink from the paris climate accord is a bad idea. i think the reality is around the world we see women's rights being sacrificed. my frustration is a lack of progress. i do not expect to see the progress of women's rights being built back in my lifetime. it is illegal to have abortion in some states in america. i think it is really important that we stand up for those rights that are cherished by people in this country but also in america as well. do you have any misgivings about the

trump baby balloon on the streets of london as part of the protest given that tomorrow the president is going to be representing the united states of america in portsmouth at those d—day 75 commemorations? we are talking here not about an individual holding an office at any one time, but the office itself and the symbolism of that office and the relationship with the uk, history of shared sacrifice and service. relationship with the uk, history of shared sacrifice and servicem relationship with the uk, history of shared sacrifice and service. it is not my billion, by the way. we have a responsibility to make sure... you haven't objected to it. on what grounds would you stop a balloon poking fun at a leader being not raised? as poking fun at a leader being not raised ? as long poking fun at a leader being not raised? as long as it is peaceful, lawful and civil. i grew up watching spitting image where politicians we re spitting image where politicians were often ridiculed on a sunday

night and it is satire. the key thing is to make sure it is lawful, peaceful and safe. and by the way, these collaborations are really important. the 75th anniversary of the d—day landings, one of the things allies fought for was for the right to protest, freedom of expression, and sometimes that includes poking fun at leaders, me included. justifying a brief question for you. if donald trump is re—elected as president and politics is in re—elected as president and politics isina re—elected as president and politics is in a state of flux here, if there was a labour government, would you have serious concerns about the uk and relationship in that scenario? let's see what happens. i do not speakfor the let's see what happens. i do not speak for the labour party nationally. i am clear that we should have good relationships with the usa. i work closely with them on a whole host of issues in relation to security. but also in relation to

culture, jobs, the links we have. this summer we will see american spots coming to london with major—league baseball. it should not have happened in this manner, a state visit. i am looking forward to a labour government working closely with the us, even if donald trump is still present. thank you very much for your time today. there will be much more fun here in downing street throughout the day on the bbc news channel, so stay with us for now. let's go back to the studio. thank you. ina let's go back to the studio. thank you. in a moment, we will have all of the business. first the headlines. basson there are reports that michael gove is set to meet the president. thousands are expected to protest

across the uk against the visit. jeremy corbyn will address a protest in whitehall. hello, the business use. bad news from britain's construction industry today. it had its worst month in more than a year in may as customers postponed investment in the face of brexit uncertainty and the sector lostjobs at the fastest rate since 2012. one of the uk's most high profile stockpickers has suspended trading in his largest fund as rising numbers of investors ask for their money back. investors have withdrawn about £560 million from neil woodford's fund over the past four weeks. the art of the deal. president trump meets business leaders and the prime minister on the second day of his state visit to the uk. more in a moment. it is important for the uk to be able to be assured of a good trade deal with president trump after or

if we leave the european union. the issue today has been the president trump has been meeting both american and uk businesses at a breakfast meeting earlier today. lots to talk about. we have had some news from president trump. he said britain could have a substantial trade deal with the us after it leaves the eu. let's talk about this. professor randall peterson is from the london business school. thank you forjoining us. he has spoken about a substantial trade deal with the us. the uk is the fifth biggest trading partner so it is not even top three. what do you think the us and uk would want from a trade dealfrom each think the us and uk would want from a trade deal from each other?” think they would want to have a trade deal that is beneficial for both parties. and donald trump loves the look of the uk as one of the few countries that the us have a trade surplus weather so he can draw that ad with a deal, the so much the

better. what would be expected from a deal, in particular talk of agricultural trade including chlorinated chicken on the nhs and private contracts. of course, there's other things that the us would like in a treaty because they support american agriculture and thatis support american agriculture and that is one of donald trump us bigger support groups. so the standards that have happened in europe obviously make american exports for some agricultural products difficult and he would surely like to make them easier. president trump has said very clearly that the uk should be willing to walk away from the eu, willing to walk away from the eu, willing to walk away from the eu, willing to have no deal on the table, and yet he is meeting business leaders who have been saying no deal is not good for our business. how does he marry those two fa cts ?

business. how does he marry those two facts? donald trump us negotiation style has always been throughout an outrageous offer or anchor and then work back from there. so from his perspective, the most outrageous anchor he can throw is withdraw without a deal. then will work backwards from there hopefully to something that is more reasonable. ok. finally, if you look at the situation right now with the british political system, we are in a state of uncertainty both within the tory party and with brexit, how difficult well that make having any kind of conversation about trade with president trump given that we cannot negotiate until we leave the eu? it is notjust that, it is also the uncertainty of it all makes it very difficult. any trade talks would have to be hypothetical something happens, and the more you are feeling unsettled, the more it is uncertain, the more people generally feel like they are

struggling. if we are feeling uncertain, what we know firm leadership research is that the people well choose dominance and strong points of view over other points of view are other ways of leading. donald trump and keep brexit leaders here have that style and the more that happens, the more likely those type of leaders will succeed. ok. thank you so much for joining us. a brief look at the markets before we go. that is all the business from me. now it is time for the weather. thank you. good afternoon. cool and cloudy sums it up through the day to day. we are seeing spells of rain or showers working their way in as well. you can see that from the

radar picture from earlier. showing where the cloud and rain is. we have brightness to ease angry at the moment but we will gradually see heavy showers push up from the south east. these could be thundery and there's big area of rain moving to there's big area of rain moving to the north and north—east. there could be thunder mixed in. heavy at times, particularly through northern ireland. the best of the weather, the far north of scotland. when is easing as a day goes on. light winds elsewhere but it will not feel one cloud and rain. temperatures could reach 21 celsius in that far south and east. the rainbow continue overnight. for much of england and wales clear spells emerging with mist emerging by dawn. layers of seven and i2 celsius. —— lows of seven and i2 celsius. —— lows of seven and i2 celsius.

this is bbc news at 12 o'clock. i'm annita mcveigh in downing street where president trump. arrived a short while ago and is having a meeting inside. the president was welcomed on the steps of number 10 by theresa may and her husband philip. they're sitting down inside now to discuss some difficult issues including climate change and iran. earlier — the president sat down with business leaders from both sides of the atlantic at st james' palace. and later he's expected to hold a surprise one—to—one meeting with the environment secretary and tory leadership

hopeful michal gove. i'm joanna gosling at buckingham palace — it's day two of the president's state visit, but not everyone is happy to see him. thousands of people are expected to protest in london and cities across the uk against president trump's vist. this is the scene live in central london as people gather for a rally where they'll hear from labour leaderjeremy corbyn. good afternoon from downing street. president trump and the first lady arrived a short while ago. meetings going on inside. after all of the

p°mp going on inside. after all of the pomp and ceremony and the meeting with the queen yesterday, this is the business end of the state visit on day two. let's take a look at what has been happening and what we can expect today. donald trump, you can expect today. donald trump, you can see him there, arriving with melania trump, the first lady. theresa may and philip greeting them. they are inside they are with theresa may and senior ministers for the talks, followed by a working lunch. they took a little bit of time to be shown around downing street. later this afternoon, at 1:45pm, the two leaders will hold a news conference. these are shot from st james's palace earlier on news conference. these are shot from stjames's palace earlier on were political leaders met for those

discussions on trade contacts. the president's daughter, ivanka trump, attending the meeting as well. this evening, the president and mrs trump will host a retirement dinner, following the state banquet, at winfield house, the residents of the us ambassador. the prince of wales and the duchess of cornwall will attend that return dinner on behalf of the queen. let's take stock of everything that has been going on outside downing street as well, because protests at the state visit are happening, just as we saw huge protest last year for the working visit. it remains unclear what the numbers i like, actually, in comparison to last year. the trump baby balloon is aloft again in parliament square. and the focus really for this protest is trafalgar square, where in an hour or so, the

labour leaderjeremy corbyn will be addressing the protesters under that stop trump coalition. let's try and get a sense of that beyond downing street and had to buckingham palace. my street and had to buckingham palace. my colleague joanna is street and had to buckingham palace. my colleaguejoanna is there. hello. the focus earlier on today at the working breakfast was a business and what this trip might achieve in terms of trade. i'm joined here by ben digby, international director of the confederation of british industry — and drjames d boys, an american policy analyst. welcome. for the american perspective, how is it going so far? it is great, the optics are great. these guys are opening, u nfortu nately, these guys are opening, unfortunately, but pictures for donald trump to take home with him. we saw the pictures coming out from the banquet last night. that is all

boarding well for him. i think he has managed to avoid any obvious protests so far. he will not object at all for not having to deal with jeremy corbyn, quite frankly last night, and the labour party are playing into his hands for giving him an axe to grind against at this point. why is that playing into his hands? both sides are using this antagonism between left and right for their advantage. antagonism between left and right fortheiradvantage. sadiq antagonism between left and right for their advantage. sadiq khan knew what he was doing when he put the statement out before the president are rightand statement out before the president are right and the president played into that. the idea thatjeremy corbyn did not attend last night and is out protesting, gives donald trump what he wants. it gives him an angle and a wedge issue to talk about problems that may be didn't exist before. you are talking about it from the american perspective, but it seems like america is getting more out of it than us. people are asking why estate visit, he is the

head of state as well as the political party over there. what you are seeing is a celebration of the relationship between the united states and great britain. we saw the p°mp states and great britain. we saw the pomp last night, the politics today, and the history tomorrow. people talk about the special relationship all the time that we are seeing a celebration of that, not the end of it. from the business point of view, how useful do you think this visit is? there is a special economic relationship between the us and the uk. the meeting that has happened in numberten is an uk. the meeting that has happened in number ten is an opportunity to talk about that. the uk has been the largest foreign investor in the united states for a number of years, higher than cardio on the border, and japan. that has supported 1 millionjobs. —— and japan. that has supported 1 million jobs. —— canada and japan. that has supported 1 millionjobs. —— canada on the border. there are americans in the manufacturing sector who are going to work for a british company in the united states. that is a positive

thing. the president has not always been positive about trade and investment, the main message will have been be positive about this relationship, because british investment is creating american jobs. what about the other way around? it is a two-way relationship. one of the interesting thing is that the president has said, 70 tech companies in the uk, tech innovation, 1 million people are employed by american businesses. in terms of who holds most cards, then, these negotiations, would you say it is fairly equal? look, i been to america, meeting trade negotiators, and when you talk to them around the world, they say trade negotiators are not easy. there are no friend in trade negotiations. we have seen that in the eu trade negotiations. —— negotiations. there are so many

things we can do without needing a free trade agreement. one of the things i have experienced in the us is that quite often uk companies can arrive in new york and jfk anything about the us as a single country, it isa about the us as a single country, it is a single country with 50 different markets and the opportunities, restrictions on doing business are different in atlanta or histon as they are in new york. we are seeing pictures of the president, the first lady, theresa may and her husband earlier. we did not shake hands. there were some handshakes but not between the prime minister and the president at downing street, do you think that is significant? i am not convinced there was ever a particularly warm relationship between theresa may and donald trump. a lot of people will be studying the body language, but let's not kid ourselves, theresa may is preparing to leave the political scene, donald trump is already

moving on i think. we have seen this in the past, seen as one announces their departure, all moves on to the success. donald trump has talked up borisjohnson success. donald trump has talked up boris johnson ahead of success. donald trump has talked up borisjohnson ahead of his trip. it is going to be interesting how that develops in terms of a relationship. i think it is in both the united states and the uk's interest for that relationship to continue, from a political point of view and business point of view. you are seeing it as the office, not the personalities that matter. when it comes to trade, how important our personalities? politics and personalities? politics and personalities are important to a certain extent. they set a tone. this is an relationship that is enduring, long term. from a business perspective, one of the things we have this morning as business people meeting, thinking that they can do together. trade agreements, yes, politicians are interested in them, but is the conversations on a

day—to—day basis that are important. is it unfortunate it is at the tail end of theresa may's premiership and the talks between the two leaders are founded on the fact it is not going to be an enduring relationship. it is incredible. when this invitation was extended by theresa may, the first foreign leader to visit donald trump as president, who could imagine when that state visit would eventually arrive it would be effectively theresa may's final days as prime minister? these challenges here, the meetings are taking place, but eve ryo ne meetings are taking place, but everyone knows there is a new team moving in. we do have interesting negotiations, but there is will continue, however replaces theresa may in downing street in the coming weeks. we know he is going to be meeting michael gove, that is at the request of the president. to think thatis request of the president. to think that is interesting? previously the comments have been focused on boris

johnson as to who might take over. you have to ask whether donald trump has been made aware of comments that have been made against donald trump which are less than complimentary about the president. it is interesting. i think michael gove will be delighted to be given this opportunity. as was being said, with regard to business and politics, the link between them is vital. these politicians when the same thing, bacon home to their state and business to their communities. if they can do it here in the united kingdom and bring interest, they are going to coalesce with political interest. it boost to british business is a bis to united states and particularly for donald trump moving into an election year. what do you make of the president's comments on brexit and him saying that he thinks in ordeal brexit would be a good thing? well, i thinks he thinks it is in the interest of america because it opens the door to a free—trade agreement.

when you talk to companies around the uk, the clear on two things, no deal would be catastrophic for the economy, but they are enthusiastic about doing more business with the united states. we need to prioritise our relationship with europe but there are opportunities to do more business, my trade, more commercial discussions with the us, without needing to do a comprehensive free trade agreement. what will be the primary, the primary thing that trump will take home from this trip, do you think? well, i think it depends what comes out at the press conference this afternoon. i would not expect any great policy developments. there was talk ahead of time with making great strides to a trade deal, that was frankly never on the cards. we are not in a position to do that at this point. i think what donald trump will be taking away from this is this idea of being seen as an international

statesman. very often american presidents focus on domestic on the first time and turn to the international realm on the second time, he has a state visit on his first time that allows him to position very nicely moving into iowa or new hampshire next year when he will be faced by a crowd of democrats who are looking inconsequential next to donald trump, who has been able to tour the world, travel the world, to present himself as a statesman and salesman on behalf of american politics. thank you very much. back to you. joanna, thank you very much. standing where we are at downing street, we can hear the sound of protests from the street of westminster filtering through to us, the media gathered outside. i am not sure they can hear that inside. they are being shown a copy of the us declaration of independence with

theresa may. and then getting down to the meetings with theresa may and her senior cabinet members. we will be keeping you right up to date with everything that is happening here on day two of the state visit. right now, goodbye to viewers on bbc two. well, as i wasjust mentioning, we can hear the sounds of protesters from where we are standing on downing street. let's head to dan johnson who is in trafalgar square where the labour leader will be addressing the protesters later. give us a sense of the numbers, dan, if you would. how to say right here in the centre of it but thousands have gathered this morning in trafalgar square and are marching off down whitehall, past downing street, hoping the president can at least hear some of the sound of the protest a nd least hear some of the sound of the protest and then they are gathering in parliament square later on this afternoon. that is where the speeches will be. despite the rain,

there are thousands out here, but perhaps not the numbers that were expected, are not the numbers that we re expected, are not the numbers that were on the streets last year. let's talk to some people who are part of the protest. you have come from brighton this morning with a donald trump banner. what is the issue you are angered about? why are you here? pretty much everything. the sexism, racism, climate change. as a young person, as young people, we are so afraid of our future. person, as young people, we are so afraid of ourfuture. we do not person, as young people, we are so afraid of our future. we do not know what is going to hold. i do not want to be old and say i did not do anything. and you were here last year? yes, iwas. ithink anything. and you were here last year? yes, i was. i think it is worth it, standing up for what you believe in. what else can you do? do you think the president should be in london? good question. i don't really know the meaning, the reason for the trip. he

really know the meaning, the reason forthe trip. he has really know the meaning, the reason for the trip. he has come quite a few times and they have been protests. do you see any value in promoting us and uk relationships? is that regardless, whoever the president is? it is dangerous to create animosity between them but i do not think we should relate ourselves with him at all.” do not think we should relate ourselves with him at all. i think he's dangerous. what about you, annie, what issues are you most motivated about? globally the environmental crisis that is being denied, and the lives of women, reproductive rights, it is a current thing. that is not necessarily down to the president, is it, it is decided at state level.” to the president, is it, it is decided at state level. i do not understand why the world's greatest villain is being tolerated.” understand why the world's greatest villain is being tolerated. i think trump has given permission, people feel able to do things they wouldn't

do because of this presidency. his power and politics have brought everyone out of the woodwork is kind of thing. i think there is a definite desire to laugh at him. this isn't funny, this is real, this is happening and this is the future. some funny slogans. there are some rude ones here as well, it must be said. the president has been shown to be rid on social media. you are visiting london and why did you want to be part of the protest? itjust so happened we were visiting and we wa nt to so happened we were visiting and we want to make our voices known. the majority of americans do not agree with what trump stands for. what are the main issues for you? for me personally, we all have our own views, three of us here, for me it is the white supremacist leanings. i do not want the united states to stand for that. that has to be put away in the past. we no longer stand for that. to think it was wrong for our government and royal family to welcome and accept the president on

this visit? personally, yes, i do. he should not be welcome here? he should not be welcome there where was. it should be shown that britain does not support the kind of use he has. thank you, brad, we will let you get on with the march. it is starting to pour down with rain but there are thousands of people here. not all in opposition to donald trump, some supporting him. a strong m essa g es trump, some supporting him. a strong messages on the street of london and a range of views. it is interestingly different causes that have brought people out. there is so much it seems to have motivated the people in this crowd. a lot of m essa g es people in this crowd. a lot of messages for him to take home if even messages for him to take home if eve n gets messages for him to take home if even gets a glimpse of these protests. dan, thank you very much. well, here at downing street the president is involved in a meeting with theresa may, notjust with theresa may, it is not a one—to—one meeting, there are other senior members of the cabinet involved in

that as well. let's get thoughts of what is going on with our assistant political editor norman smith. not a one—to—one meeting. as far as donald trump is concerned, there is a new prime minister coming soon, so i guess in that sense, those talks with theresa may are less significant today. they are kind of low key. they will be a bit muted. number ten where saying that these will be wide ranging talks, which is kind of cord for discursive, as opposed to kneeling down any particular issue. —— called for. nobody expecting decisions to be reached today. theresa may is going to raise issues around climate change. donald trump is widely expected to raise concerns whether we give the green light to huawei, do not expect a decision on that. he has talked about a reduction in

intelligence sharing, but that has presumably been pushed down the road until a new leader comes in.” presumably been pushed down the road until a new leader comes in. i would think so. they will be hold on issues until we get a new prime minister. it isjust issues until we get a new prime minister. it is just a nature of the occasion. there is almost no point in having substantive political talks on anything. anyway, it is more, ifeel, donald trump trying talks on anything. anyway, it is more, i feel, donald trump trying to ease things along with theresa may. i was struck by his words at the business forum this morning when he was talking about this amazing trade deal we could get. he said, why don't you stick around, you could do the deal. the only reason he is doing that is a pleasantry. it would be great if i could do the deal with you, site of thing. it is just trying to make this a little bit easierfor hire. trying to make this a little bit easier for hire. a lot of the focus has been on trade, hasn't it? donald trump talking about, and his words, a significant trade deal, a big

trade deal if, again, to quote him, the uk can get rid of the shackles. it does not mean. brexit means a significant trade deal with the us. it really isn't. if you look at all the different issues involved in a trade deal, usually at the run on for yea rs trade deal, usually at the run on for years and years and years, ten yea rs or for years and years and years, ten years or so. for years and years and years, ten years or so. if you look at the trade deal with america, there are nitty—gritty issues around access to the nhs, for private contractors, issues around the agricultural industry in the us, huge issues for america. they would presumably want to drive a hard bargain on that and it is not clear a british government could concede much ground. although the us ambassador was talking in terms of the nhs being rolled into discussions on a trade deal, it would be a brave conservative leader and prime minister he would agree to do that, wouldn't it? jeremy hunt has already said that is not

happening. matthew hancock said that is not happening because politically it would be a complete no, no, to allow in american contractor to have allow in american contractor to have a significant role in the nhs. it would be political suicide. that would be political suicide. that would be political suicide. that would be a no, no. that is one of the difficulties in being involved pulling together a trade deal. in general, trade deals are difficult. it is not something you would go, bingo, it is done. 0ther president trump talks a good game and woody johnson, the ambassador, says it would be on his desk from day one once brexit was done, we would be in for a slow haul and we would be starting, let's be honest, at the position of disadvantage because we would be on our own, we would not be negotiating as a trade bloc. we would be uk plc and talk with the biggest economy in the world. that changes the power balance. they would be extraordinarily difficult

talks. let's talk about the new conservative leader, whoever that may be. talks that donald trump might be having with any of the candidates. we know, for example, that he is going to be meeting michael gove. what do you make of that? if he does meet michael gove, it isa that? if he does meet michael gove, it is a huge coup for michael gove, not because it's a game changer, but a slight sight of elbow in the reps for borisjohnson. a slight sight of elbow in the reps for boris johnson. all the a slight sight of elbow in the reps for borisjohnson. all the thinking was it was borisjohnson who is going to meet the president. if it is michael gove, it is i— note to michael gove. they may be a showdown in the end to these two figures. it may give michael gove a pick up, not a game changer, but it confirms what we all know, these leadership contests never, ever, ever go to plan. there are always upsets, surprises. we had another one when liam fox, a leading brexiteer, comes out in favour of a remain, jeremy hunt. a total surprise. you would

have thought he would have gone for a brexiteer. it goes to prove that expect the unexpected in tory leadership contest. ok, norman, thank you very much. some background detail to tell you, theresa may will be presenting as a gift a copy of churchill's personal typescript d raft churchill's personal typescript draft of the atlantic charter, the 1941 charter agreed by churchill and president roosevelt for the post—war world and post—war reconstruction, if you like. we know the current president is fascinated by winston churchill and was the reason that the prime minister hosted him at blenheim palace last year during the working visit for a dinner. we will be vacuous in telling you what we know of what is going on inside. right now let's head over tojoanna close to buckingham palace. thank you very much. she is giving milani

ata you very much. she is giving milani at a tea set. —— she is giving milani a trumpet he said. we can talk now to zoe from the stop trump coalition. , ——a tea set. we are talking about ethel nationalistic politics and we are seeing it around the world and in the uk, hate crime rising on our streets, and we are standing up against that. we have a carnival of resistance, a diverse protest. in a lot of different people talking about different issues that they consider important, women's rights, lg bt consider important, women's rights, lgbt rights, consider important, women's rights, lg bt rights, climate consider important, women's rights, lgbt rights, climate change, migrants multi mac rights, and eve ryo ne migrants multi mac rights, and everyone raising their voices to say we can do it differently. do you

think it makes a difference? of course it makes a difference. of course it makes a difference. of course it makes a difference. 0ne course it makes a difference. of course it makes a difference. one of ourfundamental course it makes a difference. one of our fundamental rights is to course it makes a difference. one of ourfundamental rights is to raise ourfundamental rights is to raise our voice in protest. if we were to our voice in protest. if we were to ourthing, our voice in protest. if we were to our thing, that trump is a nasty man and carry on quietly about our day, how would anything change? of course it makes a difference. it is absolutely necessary. whenever you think anything we do and we try to protest a nd think anything we do and we try to protest and it doesn't seem to be working, just imagine if none of us did it. imagine if everyone rolled over and let men like trump carry on with his hateful bigotry and divisive, racist policies. of course it matters. i was talking to one american commentator who says, actually it plays into trump's hands because when you have sadiq khan talking about trump in the way he has talked about him, comparing him to eat 20th—century fascist, gives

trump support in the united states with his base. there is a section of society that is a hardcore trump supporter, it doesn't matter. he is the one who said he can choose someone on the one who said he can choose someone on six the one who said he can choose someone on six ave the one who said he can choose someone on six ave and they would still vote for him. i hope was hyperbolic and not true. it is true there is a section of society that believes in is politics now and has become entrenched in this culture war. that exists here too. we have a section of society that i really anti—migration, regardless of what other impact it has on our lives, economy, the strength of our society asa economy, the strength of our society as a whole, the lives of innocent migrants. there is a section. that section, there is a ceiling to how many people that these nationalist politicians can appeal to. they are

hitting the ceiling. what we saw in the european elections was that the very, you know, entrenched vote on that site switched from you kip to the brexit party. —— matthieu. the first people think policies like separating children from parents at the border, six children have died at the mexican border in detention since that policy has been introduced, most people are horrified and disgusted by that kind of politics. that is what we are doing today, turning up to show the voices of those people. so we gardener, thank you very much. back to you in downing street. joanna, thank you very much. that meeting continuing with theresa may and senior members of her cabinet and the president. then there will be a working lunch. there is supposed to bea working lunch. there is supposed to be a garden party as well, including

milani trump and philip. —— now for the weather. low pressure moving northwards. we are going to see a lot of rain over northern ireland. here is the culprit, the low pressure moving northwards. this is where we could see heavy, thundery showers affecting the south—east of england this afternoon. the wet weather will be from the midlands westwards. the northern half of scotla nd westwards. the northern half of scotland staying dry. quite cool in the north. sunshine across the south, into the london area, temperatures around 20 celsius. tonight, turned dry across much of england and wales. mr and mike around. in northern ireland, very

wet. —— misty. unsettled from the mid week onwards. longer spells of rain. it will feel on the kill site as well. —— it will feel cooler as well.

hello this is bbc newsroom live. the headlines: president donald trump holds talks in downing street on the second day of his state visit. but there are some difficult issues for him and theresa may to discuss. earlier, the president along with theresa may met business leaders from both sides of the atlantic at st james' palace. there are reports that michael gove is set to meet donald trump for a private one—to—one meeting during the president's state visit. thousands of people are expected

to protest in london and cities across the uk against president trump's visit. jeremy corbyn will address a rally in whitehall. just before we go back to downing street, breaking news from australia. in the city of darwin, 85 people have been according to police. after a man —— size people have been killed. the centre of darwin was under lockdown but police have arrested the man. australia's prime minister scott morrison has said that the darwin shooting is not terror related. police are due to hold a press conference shortly. we will bring you more on that as we get it. back to downing street. thank you very much. standing here

we can still hear the sounds of protesters as pa rt we can still hear the sounds of protesters as part of that stock trump —— stop trump coalition. the trump —— stop trump coalition. the trump baby balloon is aloft once more. you will remember it from last year. these are the latest pictures we have coming in to us of that protest. i think possibly not as large as last year but still significant in a wide range of groups coming together under that coalition umbrella to voice their objections to president trump being here. he is in downing street to have a meeting with theresa may and senior members of her cabinet. there are around 3000 police officers on

duty here in london today providing security, policing these protests. we are getting some reports of some trouble around a pub in the vicinity with members of the english defence league were possibly being kept in that pub because of the risk of a conflict with protesters as they moved past. if we get more detail on that, we will bring it to you. the president can't hear very much of what is going on where he is in downing street, i'm sure. they will bea downing street, i'm sure. they will be a working lunch after the meeting with theresa may and cabinet ministers now. there will also be a garden party attended by philip mae and the first lady. i can hear the protest getting louder. amongst the protesters is jeremy corbyn protest getting louder. amongst the

protesters isjeremy corbyn who didn't attend a state banquet at buckingham palace last night. yesterday you will remember began with those tweets from the president in which he called the mayor of london a loser. it has been part of a series of spats on social media between the two men. the mayor of london said it can't saying that while he doesn't object to donald trump being here in the sense of him being the president of the united states, he does very much object to him being given the honour of a state visit. i began by asking him a short while ago when i talked to him about his thoughts on seeing those images of the red carpet be laid out at downing street. i think it is very important that we have good relations with the usa and that includes the president. they are our closest ally and we have a special

relationship with them. my objection is for him to receive a state visit, a state banquet, and all that it entails. we have to be very careful about not giving the impression that we condone some of the things he has said and done over the last few yea rs, said and done over the last few years, from separating children from their parents and the mexican border, to using racist and and offensive language, to walking away from the paris climate change agreement, to rolling back the