hello. this is bbc news with me, lukwesa burak. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. with my guests. lovely to see you both. first, the headlines. michael gove — one of the front runners for the conservative leadership — says he deeply regrets his cocaine use more than 20 years ago but it should not affect his bid to become prime minister. after 16 years on the run, one of europe's most wanted fugitives is arrested in malta over a brutal murder in cheshire. president trump lifts the threat of tariffs on imports from mexico — after its government promises to curb illegal immigration. and in sport, england bounce back at the cricket world cup with a convincing win over bangladesh.

and at10.1i5pm, there's another chance to see simon mccoy's extraordinary interview with d—day veteran eric chardin — who took part in the landings aged just 19. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are broadcaster lynn faulds wood and economic adviser to arbuthnot banking group, ruth lea. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. let's just take a quick look through those. the character of michael gove is called into question on the mail on sunday. it says mr gove wrote articles calling for tougher punishments for drug users, despite he himself taking cocaine at the time. the observer says mr gove is battling to keep his leadership

campaign alive following his cocaine admission. a michael gove policy pledge is on the front of the sunday telegraph. it says he'll scrap vat for a simpler alternative. boris johnson is the focus on the sunday times. he says he would withhold the £39 billion divorce bill, until he secured a better brexit deal. meanwhile, the sunday express has an interview with foreign secretaryjeremy hunt, who vows to get britain walking tall again, if he was to become pm. and the daily star leads on the news that the leyton orient manager and former tottenham defender, justin edinburgh, has died at the age of 49. sad news there. let's start off our chats. we are starting off with the observer. the story of the day. how much of this is a story? many people saying, not really surprised by

this. you want to go or shall i? i think it is a story. not least of all because we will have nothing else to discuss if we don't stop i'm surprised that i am not surprised. on several occasions, ta ke surprised. on several occasions, take cocaine. and why he's bringing a hypocrite particularly is actually because he wrote an article back in 1999 saying light he opposed london's liberal consensus on loosening the rules on drugs. it's another thing for me to do this. it makes a mockery of the law. the fact he admitted to cocaine has come under a great deal of criticism from people after china maintained the law. how can you maintain a lot when you have high—profile people saying we ignored it? you couldn't make it

up. the article was headed, why it's right to be a hypocrite. the list of charges against him is notjust hypocrisy, it's criminalising something which is really horrible that there's all the county lines, children involved, the uk isjust about the bigger user in europe right now. cocaine is going up. and particularly in the middle class. and you've got gangs involved. it's a truly horrible... you've got deaths. and people are having cocaine, having a lovely time, gove being one of them, and because he's admitted that he's taken it, he could be banned from going to the united states. if he becomes pm, where does that leave us? all he said about change and loss,

there he is doing it. he was in charge of the justice department at one point, which is irony. you can't do this. you really can't. and one of the key things is that, according to one of the papers, one of the people who told on him was the adviser to dominic raab, who know about this story... i looked a little bit further into the article, and as part of the article that he wrote, in the times? 20 years ago. he says there is a greater sin than hypocrisy, it is the refusal to hold a values, because one may one of fallen short. i think the whole thing has got him all of the front

pages, when he's hoping to become prime minister, and he's in a lot of trouble with this because he's facing both ways at once sub you can't have potential prime ministers you don't trust, and we are going to come onto another one shortly. you've got to respect the law. let's just turn to the mail. he's on the front of the mail as well. in that same article, those years ago, he did say that the law is there for a purpose, and just to take you back to tony 1a, nigella lawson was banned from travelling for four—month specs she admitted taking cocaine —— back to 2014. four—month specs she admitted taking cocaine -- back to 2014. he is hoping that, i have come out all clean about it. all of the pm candidates are going to be asked, like theresa may was asked, and he

has come out, and several others have put their hands up to taking... bro restored's been smoking opium —— rory stewart. do you think there's a difference? a lot of politicians... jeremy corbyn says, i'm not interested , jeremy corbyn says, i'm not interested, it doesn't matter.m does matter. this is upholding the law. it's a class a drug. it does matter. i don't think this would ever leave him, if he became the prime minister, i really don't. ever leave him, if he became the prime minister, i really don'tlj think on the one hand, they think, he's one of us. some appeal to the younger generations. the people who are going to be voting for prime minister, for the final two candidates, according to yougov, their average age is 57. those are

their average age is 57. those are the young ones! the ball group says, hang on, the average age of conservative party members who are going to be voting is 72. i don't think they're going to be overly impressed with the story. it's not just the member it. i think is the electric out there in the country —— the electorate out there in the country. it isn't where the country is. the country is still basically conservative, small c. they don't like this. hearing about middle—class drug use. do you really can this is still split by social class ? can this is still split by social class? no. apparently three in hundred people, i read today, are actually taking cocaine. we've got so actually taking cocaine. we've got so much crime that's tilt around this, and revolting crime, that we have to do something about it. and if you you got the entire standing

pms saying, i've done it... initial shinkwin from this also is that drugs impacts different based on the background —— an interesting point from this. if you are nice and middle class and predicted, you can pull yourself up. but if you're not, you can't stop at the question is, will it affect his chances —— the question is, what will... dominic raab. he was cannabis. borisjohnson was cocaine, but apparently he sneezed... laughter you do have to ask that question. we live in a world where drugs are used regularly. you cannot condemn people as potential politicians. you can't... you

as potential politicians. you can't. .. you want as potential politicians. you can't... you want people with normal lives and who understand how other people behave running the country, so we people behave running the country, so we can't be too poor faced about all of this... so we can't be too poor faced about all of this. .. the law is the law, andi all of this. .. the law is the law, and i would be quite prepared to be poor faced about it. people can make a decision between cannabis on the one hand and class a drugs. it's what it leads to. yes indeed. cannabis, or used to be, it tends to be skunked, and is much stronger than people realise. they may have had happy copies at one time! students... michael gove took it in his 30s. this is a matter of fact, that andrea leadsom was set to do cannabis, pushy a student at the time because neck it was some years ago. —— was she a student's?”

change from brexit any papers! —— a change from brexit any papers! —— a change from brexit in the papers stop what you spoke too soon. the telegraph. -- you spoke too soon. he telegraph. all the different papers seem telegraph. all the different papers seem to have picked a different pm. we are coming to the sunday times later, the first interview with borisjohnson, who from now later, the first interview with boris johnson, who from now and later, the first interview with borisjohnson, who from now and i shall calljohnson because boris is to hadley. gove is on the sunday telegraph. and also mail on sunday. i know you've got... hunt is coming up i know you've got... hunt is coming up in the express as well. gove is saying here he's got this new economic manifesto, a smart, pro—business manifesto, or he's gonna go things like scrap vat. what's the message? if we don't have

that... like you say, it's required for membership. we are leaving. we haven't talked about brexit. it's still a shambles. i actually think if we don't need by the 31st of october, the conservative party is in serious trouble. as long as we are out, we don't have to have vat. if gove did replace vat with the old purchased tax, prior to that, 1970s, then i think it will put the flag up. filling out vat forms is extreme irritating and very time—consuming. i think he would be on as a winner if he got that out. he's also talking about a review of hs to commotion think is the most wonderful white elephant in the because of their summary more things we could do with the money than

actually have hs2. it's got a title make land of milk and honey —— it's got a land of milk and honey...” don't think so. he's got loads of things... australia... that is a slightly different issue from his economic policies. i think we are talking about from fairly sensible... hs2, very sensible to get rid of that. i'm a northerner! i'm even further north than you! let's. .. turn to i'm even further north than you! let's... turn to the sunday times. another candidate and another ma nifesto another candidate and another manifesto being unveiled. here he is. he's given the tour to the

sunday times — big interview. is. he's given the tour to the sunday times - big interview. you are saying milk and honey with gove. this is milk and honey with boris, ifi this is milk and honey with boris, if i may say so. let's not call him boris. mr boris johnson. if i may say so. let's not call him boris. mr borisjohnson. he is talking about renegotiating the deal, and he's sort of saying we will hang onto our 39 billion. he would scrap the northern ireland backstop. he would change his negotiation team. this is the birds! tweet, tweet! people might want to get a hold of matthew paris's column on saturday, because it opens with... parties know the favourites are lazy, do nothing but seem determined to vote for them anyway. and they call... colleagues are being priced in, taking into account

the fact that he is a habitual liar, each each, a conspiratorial...” the fact that he is a habitual liar, each each, a conspiratorial... i get the impression matthew paris doesn't like boris very much. that's his personality. i just do like boris very much. that's his personality. ijust do question his actual strategy when it comes to brexit. he is talking about leaving on the 31st of october. the idea of doing all this, this is the birds. he is saying he is going to save the country from jeremy corbyn and nadja farage. —— nadja farage. we are going to end there! you are going to come back, ruth, you're going to come back, ruth, you're going to come back. thank you, lynn and ruth. so much to talk about! you'll be both back at 11.30pm for another look at the front pages. more bbc news coming up. now, this week saw commemoration

events for the 75th anniversary of the d—day landings. simon mccoy was at those events in portsmouth, where he interviewed 94—year—old eric chardin who took part in the landings aged just 19. first time in our lives, there were dead bodies all over the place. we didn't give up, no. we just did what we were supposed to do, i think. i'm actuallyjoined by one of the veterans of d—day, eric chardin. you landed on gold beach — you were 19 years old that day, you're 94 now. as you eventually realised this was it and you were on your way, what did that feel like? i think we had tried to convince

ourselves that we had got something special to do — even if we didn't have any idea how to do it. and what's your first memory of the moment you realised "we are about to land, and this is about to happen"? well, i mean, it was all going then. we got ourselves together and helmets on. we still got soaking wet. we clambered off and made for the beach. i think it's fair to say that the worst of the opposition had probably passed by the time we landed — you know, the earlier assault troops had probably cleared the lower parts of the beaches, anyhow. but there was still a lot of gunfire.

and, of course, sadly, the first time in our lives, there were dead bodies all over the place, which is a very sad sight — a shocking sight to us, i suppose. you were on gold beach, one of the three british beaches. you describe bodies around you. as a 19—year—old, what kept you going? well, i suppose we weren't allowed not to, really, i suppose. we didn't give up, no — we just did what we were supposed to do, i think. we just kept moving upwards and reached higher ground. we did have a few casualties, i think, before we finally got to higher ground. but when you got to that higher ground, was there a sense of relief, was a sense that "we've done it"? i think so, yes — yes, all of a sudden, that we've done that, yes. and the rest of the day is very vague.

i know none of you i've ever spoken to has ever described yourselves as brave. don't you think you were brave that day? no, not really, no... laughter. we were kids, a lot of us, i suppose. have you ever wanted to talk about it? if members of your family have said, "what did you do?", are you comfortable talking about it? not terribly, i don't think, no. i think there is a bit of latent anger about — that it ever happened at all, i suppose. i mean, my earlierfamily, my father and my brothers were first world war veterans. my father was badly wounded and died when i was quite young. and one of my uncles was killed. so you know... they'd had a bad time in their war.

yes, so i think there was a bit, as i say, of latent anger a bit. and that war could happen like that again. what did the rest of the war hold for you? because d—day was the start of a very long campaign. what i didn't tell you was that after about — i don't know how many days it was — that i actually got captured and ended up as a prisoner of war. we made a very unwise and possibly unfortunate attack on the woods and it all went wrong. and we were stuck — there were about 20 or so of us — with the sergeant major at the time. and i was platoon signaller,

i think, for the company. i was the only one who knew anything about radio. i had been a radio man all my life. actually, i lost my arrow in the process. and me being a clever man — a lot of telephone wires had been shot down, so i got myjackknife out and cut off all the suitable links of telephone wire and stuck it in the radio and caused it to go again. i made contact with the company headquarters, and they didn't know what to do either, so they told us to stay where we were. well, to this day, i don't know if that was good advice or not, or whether if i hadn't fixed it, we would've been better off or not. but in the short time that we stayed where we were — all of a sudden, out of the woods came a tiger tank and a lot of german infantry. so we didn't stand a chance then.

we were simply captured, the 20 of us. the platoon commander had been killed, i think, by a sniper. so there we were. that was the end of my actual d—day period. how were you treated as a prisoner of war? it varied from place to place. we were taken to a rather horrible dungeon place for a while. i think it was a sort of softening—up dungeon. we were in there several weeks and very poorly fed, and so forth. then we were taken to paris, yes.

and then i was a bit ill for a while... i suspect that when you say you were a bit ill, that's a bit of an understatement? well, it was impetigo, actually. it was quite terrible. i caught it off a canadian soldier, i think — i think i unwisely lent him my razor. laughter. i think that's what happened. now you're 94 and you look back. there must be very private thoughts for those who never came back? well... yes, obviously. i think i probably left with a sense of the waste of it all. it was a terrible waste, really, of wartime. you know, i can't feel very gung—ho about it. you've been back to the beaches once or twice? i haven't since, no.

i've never been back to normandy. do you want to? not particularly, no. in fact — my grandson, robert... he's around here? he asked me if i thought it would be nice if we went across, and i didn't want to do that — to go across to normandy again. that would be too difficult? not difficult. perhaps i didn't want to repeat the experience — i didn't see what that would achieve, really. yes. there are lots of people saying that as the veterans get older, inevitably it's not long away where there won't be any — and this becomes real history, as opposed to first—hand accounts like yours, and that we should move on.

why is it important that we remember the events of notjust that day, but that period? well clearly, it broke through a stalemate in the finish of the war. we didn't realise at the time — in effect, i suppose it did do that, the start of this huge invasion. i feel sorry in a way that we got so much adoration for this, whereas the troops in north africa and italy and so on, they might have felt a bit relieved after all the years and months they'd been struggling on. well, i'm in awe because i've met many veterans over the years, and you all have this sense of "we were just doing ourjob". yes. but it was more than that. there are generations since who are

here because of what you did. do you sometimes appreciate that? well, i suppose so. i suppose... i don't know what would've happened if we had lost. you can only imagine, can't you? we would have become a province of germany. i have no idea... do you think it's important that generations, perhaps for many years to come, remember what happened on those beaches? do you think they will? i mean, it'll just become recent history — like the first war... and the various wars before that. i wouldn't have thought we would look on it in a very

different light, perhaps. i'd rather they didn't, i think. what do you think about this length of time, 75 years on, the progress that's been made in terms of peace? yes, well, i hope it continues. it worries me that... brexit worries me. i can't help feeling it would be an awful shame if what we've gone through so much trouble to do — to bring the european nations together — to break it all apart would be would be a crying shame, i feel. you think you were brave that day? not particularly, no. laughter. no, i have to admit, i was scared. has anyone recently said thank you?

i don't think so, no. can i — on behalf of everyone watching — just say thank you? 0h... well, thank you for your courtesy. eric, it's a great pleasure to meet you. eric chardin, thank you so much. hello again. it's been quite an u nsettled hello again. it's been quite an unsettled day today. some heavy rain and blustery winds across a good pa rt and blustery winds across a good part of the country. bratcher weather with a few showers in the south. overnight, pressure spins up towards scandinavia. the rain eases all. a few showers across northwestern areas and the winds will come down overnight with clearing skies. not particular cult. images from us between eight and ten. tomorrow across northern scotland, a cloudy start but otherwise actually for most of the uk, a brighter sunny start and plenty of dry weather around to the morning. it is a day of sunshine and showers and he showers will form into bands. where the spans of

showers will be havret, thundering and show moving. —— slow—moving. it is going to feel warmer across much of the country. temperatures, 16—20d celsius. then, the early part of next week, a potential weatherfront moving across england and wales, bringing heavy rain. heaviest across eastern areas. a risk of localised flooding monday and tuesday.

this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 11:00: michael gove, one of the front runners for the conservative leadership, says he deeply regrets his cocaine use more than 20 years ago, but it should not affect his bid to be prime minister. after 16 years on the run, one of europe's most wanted fugitives is arrested in malta, over a brutal murder in cheshire. president trump lifts the threat of tariffs on imports from mexico, after its government promises to curb illegal immigration. the queen isjoined by members of the royal family for the annual trooping the colour parade to mark her majesty's official birthday. england bounce back at the cricket world cup, with a convincing win, over bangladesh.