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them, some that. eight mps behind them, some have not got that number, so we have ten candidates overall and what will happen is, they have postings on tuesday and wednesday night, behind closed doors and on thursday, we have our first secret ballot where conservative mps will vote and whoever does not manage to meet the highest threshold, which is around 16 mp5. they will be knocked out. and it will get whittled down and i think, in theory by the end of next week, we should know who the final two are based on the membership. week, we should know who the final two are based on the membershipm looks like boris johnson two are based on the membershipm looks like borisjohnson is very much the front runner, the one who,. especially with the endorsements that he has gotten from conservative mps are just one the have to go on,
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apart from the interviews that have been done with members of been on the country. he is definitely ahead in terms of the number of factors that he's got but he certainly does not have a majority, because there are so many not have a majority, because there are so many candidates to go through the process that they've been describing is as the other candidates, where they go and it is all about at the moment, appealing to conservative members of parliament and the only electorate for the next couple of weeks, but they clearly have got there i on the wider electorate. with the michael gove is trying to deflect the cocaine passed, admitting it had
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been a crime, saying how fortunate was that he avoided... as you mentioned, conservative mps, back in the running, we have the most tory mps backing him and he did appear to be in second place, so potentially to be in the final two i think he has lost momentum and i mean do not think he is losing supporters, those who come out for him, say that they do notjudge him or think that he should lose support, but i think it is pretty nasty some of those bigger names are coming out for him now and we saw that at the weekend where amber ride in the pension secretary endorsed jeremy hunt and davis in the conservative leaders endorsed sajid javid. i think michael gove's campaign, ithink sajid javid. i think michael gove's campaign, i think that is what is hitting him. this desperate taunt at boris that they are talking about.
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the danger for michael gove would have been if today was all about michael gove and for all of the candidates, it is now all about boris even though he has not said a word. is a quite clever of him? clinic and in the unlikely event, he had done what i suggest you should do, given how we know how able he is to put his foot in his mouth. or say things without really thinking about them. ithink things without really thinking about them. i think his advisers, if it was their decision, they're absolutely right to keep them quiet. but he was still the one that everyone was talking about and all of the other candidates who did have their lunches today, were having a go at him, basically for not being a serious candidate, for some of the policies and ideas these come up with aunt michael gove, even went so far, everyone calls in boris and it is quite a privilege in public life to be known by her first name, whoever you may be. boris has that, but michael gove was very confident
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to call him mrjohnson all the way through. and to suggest that he did not have the qualities. that is what destroyed borisjohnson's not have the qualities. that is what destroyed boris johnson's attempted the leadership last time around and michael gove is trying to pull off the same trick again but it may not be to his benefit. it may be to the benefit of someone else. perhaps jeremy hunt. doesn't look like boris johnson and one other and if so, who is the other. just to remind eve ryo ne is the other. just to remind everyone that it is two to go through to the final list which is then voted on by the wider tory party membership. and when it comes to the final two i think we look at the makeup of the parliamentary party it looks like you will have one, i suppose, you call no deal brexiteer and even to say boris johnson is saying no deal is not his preferred outcome, he is willing to do it. you have one person who is seen as a true brexiteer and an
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inverted commas, people can take what they mean from it. the other candidate is likely to be a cabinet candidate, someone from such as sajid javid orjeremy hunt, they will receive votes from colleagues 01’ will receive votes from colleagues or sceptical about a no—deal brexit and perhaps not natural brexiteer. was a ghost of the wider membership, is ita was a ghost of the wider membership, is it a foregone conclusion that the ha rd is it a foregone conclusion that the hard line brexiteer one of those two 7 hard line brexiteer one of those two? you would expect that men have the best chance in the one caveat in general, the front runner the tory leadership wins, if you look at history, that does not have too much. but boris johnson history, that does not have too much. but borisjohnson is on course but as you mentioned, he has not really have much of a profile, and you saw him announce one policy relating to income tax and that ended fairly that leave and his party, i still think he can get in trouble but he has benefited so far from many of the one nation caucus
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of mps, so dominic, his brexiteer arrival as someone they disliked more than boris johnson, arrival as someone they disliked more than borisjohnson, id boris johnson is emerging with a clear lead and we can see how we can stop him as well as dominic. the anyone but boris campaign, who believe that at one point, they could have two candidates that could be boris in this stage so he does not even go to the wider electorate and conservative party, but that strategy seems to have been derailed. the guardian, the i still win, ican derailed. the guardian, the i still win, i can still win michael gove, but you think? i think it is unlikely and he is quite an impressive performer in front of the cameras, he did it without notes and had some good there but as she was saying earlier, he may not of lost support but is not difficult for new people to come out and say they're going to support him. you will really have to show that he has some momentum behind him and descends you
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got from those lodges, that is probably moved over to jeremy got from those lodges, that is probably moved over tojeremy hunt. and do you think that's because the cocaine admission? clinic it is hard to look at michael gove without without thinking about that.|j without thinking about that. i was at his leadership launched today and speaking to the mps over the weekend about what is happening while they we re about what is happening while they were still back in michael gove, lots of conservative mps are worried that michael gove and borisjohnson are stuck in some sort of drama that 22nd, stopping boris johnson 22nd, stopping borisjohnson who a p pa re ntly 22nd, stopping borisjohnson who apparently knifed him in the back and left while borisjohnson stepped down from the campaign, and i think a lot of the things i michael gove has said, michael gove had the claim
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that he was asked about this crime against borisjohnson that he was asked about this crime against boris johnson and that he was asked about this crime against borisjohnson and he claimed that he is doing a public service andi that he is doing a public service and i don't feel he is necessarily able to back borisjohnson because of comments but you'll probably be prime minister and caused less bad blood by going the way ofjeremy hunt. the next prime minister of the united kingdom may be chosen by about 160,000 conservative united kingdom may be chosen by about 160 , 000 conservative party members. it is extraordinary and has never happened before. we have had prime minister stand down before, but they have always been chosen one way or another by the parliamentary party. so they have emerged it, this is the first time in british political history that the membership ofa political history that the membership of a political party has decided to the next prime minister should be and to be true of a
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political party but particularly true of the conservative that the membership is unrepresentative as a whole, of views on brexit or anything. it tends to be sort of more hard—line than others. labour as well as the tories. been under normal circumstances, new party leaders are elected in opposition because the outgoing leader has lost an election or failed to win an election, that's me have the challenge. so to have a challenge like this while the governing party is still in office, it is extraordinary and has never happened before and i think a lot of people will be sitting at home thinking, hang ona will be sitting at home thinking, hang on a second, what is the future of our country? this is about the future of our country being decided by such a small group of people. we had theresa may when she was selected after the e referendum and a lot of people were unhappy when she stepped in for david cameron.
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there are two audiences, the case of the members and mps deciding, but i do think it's on the reasons why the leadership candidates, like the television debates and behind closed doors like the 1922 this week. i will say that the way things are looking in terms of brexit, how fragile the next muscle be, we could have one very soon anyway. in the past one, we have had an unelected new leader, that has been calls for a general election, both within labour and the conservatives, the fear of a general election is probably too great for that. divorce probably too great for that. we've also got on the guardian, the television licenses for millions of her 75. the bbc decision, what you make of that? they are taking the
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flack for this and the situation has been handed to them and in my view, this is not something that the bbc should be asked to make a judgement on. because allowing the over 75's not to pay their licence is a tax credit and the benefit. and it is the job of government to decide who gets benefits over this. part of the licence fee deal. and the bbc was very unwise to let and came into the government when he was the chancellor of the exchequer and take responsibility for this because almost being pretty smart and knew which way it was going to go. he probably knew it was unaffordable, £400 million and will cost an awful lot of money and of any organisation's budget including one is rich is the bbc, but it is an awful lot of money and politically, i think the government were very wise to, it should not be deep bbc to make this decision. public
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consultation as part of this, which came back of, 5248,, and will there bea came back of, 5248,, and will there be a second vote? something that you said, we have theresa may saying that she is disappointed in the decision, had the government stayed in control of this, adding the cost would've become too much anyway. but there is a point that is clearly on there is a point that is clearly on the bbc. the critics are quick to point out, the bbc still has decisions that he can make. it can look at this and look at executive pay, it is not the only route to saving money. the daily mail, which is not traditionally one of the biggest cheerleaders of the bbc i think it is fair to say. headline backlash over bbc betrayal of the elderly. would expect the daily mail
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to take the opportunity to have a good the bbc and there is been a long—running feud directed by the daily mail at the bbc. but they have taken the line that it is being turned into criminals because they may not realise that they are supposed to buy a television licence going forward and there will be a risk of prosecution. again. it is the state job to prosecute another bbc. it is the household where there is someone claiming pension credit will get free licenses, but some of the groups that represent pensioners are saying actually, there are lots of pensioners who are very poor who do not claim pension credit for various do not claim pension credit for various reasons. do not claim pension credit for various reasons. actually, this, more people claim pension credits for tv licence and not 100% sure the logic on that one, i think that it does come down to the tv licence and
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if we start to see a trend of pensioners being taken to court for not paying their tv licenses, i think there will be a bit of backlash on this and asked to revise if you'll be getting it for free or make it clearer and how to manage it because it was rather unfair. make it clearer and how to manage it because it was rather unfairlj suppose theoretically that you could end up with a 95—year—old being taken to court for not paying their television licence. it is perfectly possible that you could have, given the consumer backlash with people refusing to pay to provoke that kind of confrontation and embarrass the bbc and government as well. or a new prime minister who reverses the whole thing. ifi prime minister who reverses the whole thing. if i was a member of the tory party leadership, i am living in a fantasy world, but i am enjoying it. ithink living in a fantasy world, but i am enjoying it. i think it might be something that would appeal to the
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conservative party membership out there. we have wrapped both tomorrow and today's stories into one. the tory leadership. that's it for the papers this hour. katy balls, who's the deputy political editor at the spectator, and the political commentator, lance price will be back at half past eleven for another look at the papers, and don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you — 7 days a week at bbc dot co uk forward slash papers. and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you to my guests katy and lance. we'll all be back for a second look at the papers in just over half and hour, but for the moment, goodbye. well, monday to draws about a months worth of rainfall to some southern parts of the uk. tuesday is going to bring yet more rain but it looks as though the rainfall is going to be a
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little bit further north as far as today and tuesday is concerned. the forecast, here's the satellite image first. a lot of clouds swirling around reston parts of europe always eocene thunderstorms in the near continent, heavy rain obviously here in the uk and basically a vortex is formed in western parts of europe, responsible for dragging the colder airfrom the north, which is been tucking into france for it is been cool as well, particularly warm in eastern europe in the midst of a heat wave with temperatures in excess of 13 degrees. to the early hours you could see many northern and central parts of the uk getting the rainfall and also southwestern parts of britain to wales in some heavy rain but in scotland and northern ireland, a very different story here, by the end of the night, the thinking is that the southeast will start to dry out and there might even be some sunshine first thing in the morning. so let's pick
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up thing in the morning. so let's pick up on that forecast for tuesday, the weather then, pretty much, up on that forecast for tuesday, the weatherthen, pretty much, i up on that forecast for tuesday, the weather then, pretty much, i would not see completely stationary but is moving very slowly to the north, so the anticipation is we will get a lot of rainfall around yorkshire, the northwest of england, wales and the northwest of england, wales and the southwest. to the north of that in scotland and northern ireland, is a case in scotland and northern ireland, is a case of sunny spells and also some sunshine in the southeast and central southern england but here, we could see some thunderstorms developing and so there's still some downpours, big downpours on the way for tuesday but clearly it will be further north and on wednesday we noticed that it is still raining across parts of northern england, wales and yet more heavy showers basically drifting and swinging in from the south on wednesday, so a very unsettled spell on the way through much of the week. beyond that wednesday into thursday, that vortex, otherwise low pressure is still here, pockets of across the
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this is bbc news. the headlines at 11:00: ten candidates have been confirmed tonight after gaining enough support from fellow tory mps. they face the first ballot on thursday. vying for the top job — some launched their campaigns today. the winner should be in place by the end ofjuly. the end of free tv licences for most over 755, but the bbc says the poorest pensioners still won't have to pay. a nurse has been rearrested by police investigating the deaths of babies at the countess of chester hospital's neonatal unit one person has died after a helicopter crashed onto the roof of a high—rise building in new york.
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