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the bbc has been given access to one of the many detention camps in the far west of china being used to contain around a million muslims. china's government had previously denied they existed. it says the camps are simply schools to combat the rise of islamist extremism. the united states says it will send about 1,000 additional troops to the middle east. a pentagon statement said the deployment was for defensive purposes. the move comes amid growing tensions between the us and iran over two attacks on oil tankers in the gulf of oman last week. amnesty international has urged egypt to hold an impartial investigation into the death of the former islamist president mohammed morsi, who collapsed during a court apperance. state television said the 60—seven—old muslim brotherhood leader died of a heart attack, but amnesty said there were questions about his treatment in custody.
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now on bbc news, monday in parliament. hello, welcome to monday in parliament. after a weekend of killings in london, mps tell ministers to get a grip. where's the passion, the idignation, the horror about what is happening on our streets? notjust in london, but across the country. questions about hospital food safety as nhs patients die from listeria. why on earth people who are seriously ill or frail were being fed sandwiches? and saving the planet — patience is wearing thin in the house of lords. why is it possible to choose a prime minister in eight weeks when it's impossible for defra to make a decision about bag charges, which all the industry
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favours, in about 80 weeks? all that to come and more. but first, four men died in suspected murderers over four days across london. three of the deaths were stabbings, the fourth was a fatal shooting. after the attacks, donald trump tweeted that the mayor of london, sadiq khan, was a disaster and a national disgrace. labour suggested the us president may be singling out mr khan because he's a muslim. a home office minister came to the commons to answer an urgent question. these events are a stark reminder that serious violence is a continuing threat. there is no single or simple answer, and the police, local authorities, police and crime commissioners and others are working with us, taking action on a number of fronts, locally, regionally and nationally, in the immediate term and in the longer term.
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four murders in london over four days, mr speaker. two murders in my constituency in two weeks. i commend tower hamlets police for early arrests in both of those instances. londoners don't want to see us politicians scoring points or playing party politics with this. this cannot go on. president trump's purile intervention is not helpful. we need a more proactive and intelligent response. my constituents are anxious, they're frightened, they see low—level anti—social behaviour escalating to violent crime. it's clear now that properly used and properly monitored stop and search is part of the answer, and will she confirm that the government will continue along that line? yes, stop and search, we've always said, is a vital tool for law enforcement and i think we're all conscious in this house that, few years ago, there was a real problem in terms of the feeling and trust that certain parts of our society had in relation to stop and search, and we wanted to try and reassure communities.
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i think now, particularly with the introduction of body—worn cameras, that reassurance is there. another bloodstained weekend in the capital, and this morning, fourfamilies will wake up having lost a son, a brother or a father. the minister's correct to say there's no single answer, and we congratulate the met police for their work over the weekend, in this horrible weekend we've endured. but doesn't she accept that any strategy to combat rising crime must include hiring more police officers? diane abbott said sadiq khan must be held to account like any other politician, but she couldn't recall a us president referencing a london mayor before. it's hard to escape the conclusion that president trump may be singling out sadiq khan because he's of the muslim faith. does the minister accept that, if that were true, many people
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would find it distasteful? i'm going to decline to respond to the point about president trump for the simple fact that i'm sure — and i know from the urgent question that has already been asked — we all have, at the forefront of our minds today, the four families who have been affected in the most terrible way this weekend. and i hope she will forgive me if i don't dive into the political pool, today of all days. as the minister knows, my party fully supports a public—health approach to stopping violence, which has delivered significant progress in scotland and elsewhere, and she also knows the snp supports and has delivered on protecting police numbers. so we support this government's commitment to a public—health
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approach, but when will we see an end to the significant cuts, particularly to local authority budgets, that have seen the safe spaces and key services that are crucial to such an approach decimated? yet more lives lost, yet more families devastated, and very disturbing reports of older gang members paying young people to stab, maim and kill. does the minister not understand the real concern about the lack of grip, the lack of urgency and the lack of scale of the response from the government? can she really put her hand on her heart and say, in the light of this escalating violence, that the home office is doing enough? does the minister agree that, actually, this is a crisis, it's a national crisis, a national emergency, and although she is the one who's being fronted to have to defend the government, have to explain, it's not good enough. the government needs to take serious action and put serious amounts of money in order to tackle this problem, or we'll be here once again, sadly, next week and the week after, in order to raise these issues.
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and itjust cannot go on like this. where is the passion, the indignation, the horror about what is happening on our streets? notjust in london, but across the country? violent crime is soaring and has been soaring for months. members like myself, across the house, have raised this with the government, and all we get from the government is a million here and a million there — it's peanuts in the face of the problem that we're facing. it's a national emergency, cobra should be called and the government should bring to it the same enthusiasm, the same urgency, the same dynamisim it would if there was a terrorist attack on our country, god forbid. and it's about time the minister got a grip of this. and while we're talking about this, where's the home secretary? where's the home secretary to speak to us? i raise this, mr speaker, again and again and again. he's absent without leave, he's busy fighting the tory
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leadership campaign. he should be here, doing his dayjob rather than trying to get elected as tory leader. minister. this is not about my tone or the honourable gentleman's tone, this is about action to help those families most affected by serious violence. for one, i think there is a bit too much anger in politics at the moment, anger is not going to solve the problems of serious violence. victoria atkins. the health secretary, matt hancock, has promised severe consequences if there's evidence of wrongdoing following an outbreak of listeria. five people are suspected to have died after an outbreak of listeria in hospitals. two of the deaths occurred at manchester royal infirmary. matt hancock came to the commons
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to answer another urgent question. the nhs has identified nine confirmed cases of listeria in seven different hospitals between the 14th of april this year and the 28th of may, all linked to contaminated sandwiches from a single supplier. all of the known cases involved in—patients and very sadly, five people have died. mr speaker, i'd like to express my condolences to the families of those who've lost a loved one and i promise there will be a full and thorough investigation and severe consequences if there's any evidence of wrongdoing. lab testing indicated a link between two cases in manchester royal infirmary and one case in liverpool. contaminated sandwiches were identified as the likely cause by public health england. the manufacturer, the good food chain, and its supplier, north country cooked meats, have withdrawn the sandwiches and voluntary ceased supply of all products on the 7th ofjune. i've been speaking to hospital catering staff in recent days and they've raised with me concerns about their tight finances,
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years of capital cuts have left kitchens sub standard and this has driven a move to greater outsourcing of catering, with sandwiches and soups steadily replacing hot meals. recent data show some hospitals spending less than £3 per patient per day. does he agree that his review that he's announced today should be backed up by investment in hospital catering, in facilities and legally backed, clear—minimum quality standards of hospital food? health care isn'tjust about medicine, surgery, bandages and procedures, it's about nutrition and hydration too. as he says, simple cases are often a matter of being unwell for a few days, but listeria poses a major threat to pregnant women, who may lose their child, and is life—threatening for people who are already ill. so in his review, can i ask him to pay particular attention to why on earth people who were seriously ill orfrail were being fed sandwiches?
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someone who has no appetite and is recovering from illness is simply not going to be tempted by a pack of sandwiches. and therefore, that really makes the case for bringing food preparation in—hospital and producing tempting meals, because nutrition is critical for recovery. mr speaker, i entirely agree and endorse that which the honourable lady has said. she's quite right to raise the point that a meal has to be appetising as well as nutritious. and the best hospitals deliver that, and i'd like to see that much more widespread. 0ur heart goes out to these families, nothing could be worse than to go to hospital poorly, trying to get better and then die because of a sandwich you've been given by that hospital to eat and aid with your recovery.
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surely, we've got to be a lot firmer here in identifying that this growth in outsourcing food supplies is leading to some real safety issues and potentially to these deaths themselves? while there is no evidence that cost is behind the tragic cases we've heard of today, would the secretary of state in his root and branch review look at the price the hospital is spending on — £1 per meal is not enough for a nutritious meal for patients. some trusts are spending less than £5 per day on patient food. would he also look at legislating for safe staffing levels, so there's enough nurses on the wards to feed patients. about a third of patients are eating less than half of the food that is served before them and are suffering from malnutrition. would he look at both those issues to improve patient safety? of course, making sure that there enough nurses on wards is incredibly important for delivering good patient care, not just the food but more broadly as well. she raises the question
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of price per meal — what's interesting is that those hospitals which have brought food production in—house and source locally produced food, not necessarily locally distributed food but locally produced food, have found that reduces cost rather than increases them, so this isn't a question of resources, it's a question of good practice. matt hancock. you're watching monday in parliament. don't forget, if you miss our daily round—up, you can catch up thanks to the wonders of modern technology via the bbc iplayer. now it could end up being the biggest recall of consumers goods the country has ever seen. last week the government encouraged up to 500,000 owners of tumble dryers to send them back to their manufacturer, whirlpool amid concerns they are of fire risk. some of the tumble dryers have already been modified. a labour mp had more questions.
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what further advice is being given to the owners of whirlpool tumble dryers? why has whirlpool not published the list of the model number is on its website? and refusing those to which electrical safety first and why exactly that advice changed from 0pss, because they seemed quite happy in april with it and will the government look again at the modification process and the evidence compiled by which, which says the modified machines are still liable to catch fire? and finally, mr speaker, let me say this. does the minister agree with what her predecessor said in asking the larger question last week, which is that they remain great concerns about the straightness of whirpool. what is the government going to do about this company which has flouted the rules here.
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isn't it time to get tough? he is absolutely right to be concerned about the future prevention of fires. i can tell the honourable gentleman that the home office data said there were 224 domestic appliance fires caused by tumble dryers in 2017—18. that is a 10% reduction from the previous year which was 808. clearly, we will do all that is required to make sure that consumers are kept free of harm and we are carrying out in line with the legislation that is the regulations laid down following out due process in order to make sure that whirlpool carry out what their obligations are. can the minister explain why she did not come forward with a statement on the decision which he calls unprecedented but which she felt not precedence
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enough to inform the house? mr speaker, the issue is around whirlpool and its faulty products has been one of the biggest consumer issues for many years. the relevant faults affected over 5 million tumble dryers under brand names now owned by whirlpool uk and manufactured between 2014 and 15. there is no intention to back as has been put big business over the needs and safety of consumers. and we will not do that. fundamentally, the safety of people and their homes is the utmost important to me and to the government and i will do all that i can in my power to make sure that large companies or indeed any manufacturer mr speaker, who places products on the market comply their legal obligations. i do not talk about this a lot in public but i lost my father and an electrical accident when i was ten. and there hasn't been a father's day for 40 years where i haven't wished
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he was still here. consumer safety must come first. can i thank the minister for the action she has taken today. we do have some of the strongest consumer safety standards in the world but sometimes the enforcement is challenging. so will she take this occasion to also consider ways in strengthening the enforcement and whether penalties against producers are effective and strong enough? i thank the honourable lady and i am very sorry to hear about her father, particularly having to speak in this urgent question today after it being father's day yesterday. and she is absolutely right. this action is a warning to manufacturers that if they do
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place unsafe products onto the market, this government will take action. the government has said it is almost certain iran was responsible for attacks on two oil tankers last week in the gulf of oman. the united states has said iranian special forces were behind the explosions that damaged the ships, a month after four other tankers were attacked off the coast of the united arab emirates. iran has categorically rejected the allegation. called to the commons to make an urgent statement, the fourth of the day, the minister condemned the attacks. this is deeply worrying and at a time of already significant tension. following our own assessment, the uk concludes that it is almost certain that a branch of the iranian military, the islamic revolutionary guard corps attacked two tankers on the 13th ofjune. no other state or non—state
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actor could plausibly have been responsible. tensions between the us and iran have escalated since donald trump abandoned the nuclear deal with tehran and tighten sanctions on iran. the uk remains in close coordination with international partners to find diplomatic solutions to de—escalate tensions. i plan to visit tehran shortly where i will seek to assist and that de—escalatory process, and at establishing common ground and a peaceful way forward that will command the respect of all parties. while fully appreciating that there are of course intelligent sensitivities, does the government recognise that releasing additional evidence into the public domain where possible or sharing this with allies on a confidential basis would help garner further support to build an international agreement and indeed hopefully dampen tensions or to be able to take any action necessary.
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and would he agree that an independent inspection from a trusted third party to look at these vessels would be an important part of the answer? if we face a situation where theocrat hardliners and tehran and the neo—con hawks in the white house want to start a regime change conflict in iran, a country nine times the size of syria then we have a choice whether or not to become emeshed and it should be this parliament that makes that choice but more importantly and more urgently what we must now deal as a country through then the united nations as the secretary general has called for and as the german government has called for, is to work to de—escalate the situation as the minister suggested. i hope he got the sense from my remarks at the uk government's position is that we need to dial this down. he spent some time talking about the trump administration, well, our position of course, we respect the us very much indeed,
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but nevertheless we take our own view on these matters. a further war would be a disaster. unable to be confined to its boundaries and that the consequences would be long—lasting and incredibly onerous and all states owe an obligation to their peoples to desist from actions and do everything they can to prevent such a risk of war in the region again. six vessels have been attacked injust over a month and it has been suggested that one practical step that can be taken is to provide some kind of security escort for vessels and the gulf of oman. it is not ourjudgement at the moment that that would be appropriate and i think it would be seen as being provocative and escalatory. my view, the government's view, is our interests are best served at this time by trying to turn down the heat on this. surely our influence should be used
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to urge the us and iran to re—engage in talks rather than risk a crescendo of warmongering. and would he consider whether an international inquiry into the attacks on the wider questions of safety and shipping in the gulf would be more productive given that it has an international effect? the minister said any investigation it was a matter for the ship owners. but we stand ready to be of assistance wherever we can, in these matters, as she can probably appreciate we have some expertise in matters of this sort, being a maritime nation. and if any of those skill sets can be of assistance then we will obviously be prepared to offer them. now is the government dragging its feet over plans to double the plastic bag tax in england? it has been more than three years since the law are required large shops to charge 5p for single use bags. and within the last year, ministers announced plans to extend to all shops and raise it to 10p.
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in the lords, peers wanted to know why we are still waiting. injanuary 2018 the prime minister announced the intention to extend the single use of carry—back charge to all retailers. eight months later it is announced there will be a consultation. five months later the consultation started. four months after that, i received a letter saying that the announcement would be made soon. that is almost two months ago. why is it possible to choose a prime minister in eight weeks when it is impossible for them to make a decision about bag charges which all the industry favours in 80 weeks? my lords that is an intriguing comparison but the position is that in combining the publication of both summary and action, it will reduce the overall time taking comparative publishing each secretary and we have indeed had
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to take a little bit longer because officials needed to undertake additional policy work in response to feedback from consultation. i can assure my noble friend and noble lords that we are fully seized of the importance of plastic reduction. i do not wish to be discourteous to the minister but as it sounded like a direct quote from yes minister, if you would like to think about it again. it is intolerable, we have been waiting years and years and years to put a charge on plastic bags, we have on some but not on others, why can't we just get a move on? why does it take so long? my lords that is not quite the case of course. like all of these things, and i am well aware of this sort of responses one has given but the truth is i have said and perhaps the interpretation of very soon might be in a glossary of terms. i am very conscious of what is required which is that we need to take action on this and indeed many of the large retailers already by the end of this year will not be
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using single use plastic bags at all. but we are having to work with all retailers, all market traders and we want to get this right because we need to address it fully. my lords, 10p seems incredibly cheap for something that can last for thousand years before it biodegrades. my point i want to ask you is why is the consumer bearing all this? what are the regulations that you're going to impose on the supermarkets and the food retailers to cut down the amount of packaging that they use? for example it is insane that bananas should be wrapped up in plastic. i know it is complicated to deal with the lengths of time but can you assure me that the government will take proper consultation and then introduce regulation rather thanjust responsibility? the noble baroness is right in saying that one of the complications about some of the wrapping and i say some of the wrapping is that there is no doubt about it that certain wrapping increases the length of time for produce and indeed it stops food waste.
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so we do need to look at these things thoroughly but the noble baroness is right we are consulting because we actually think that those producing the packaging should be responsible for the costs of clearing these matters up. that is what we are consulting on at this very moment. the consultation is clearly important because we do need to reduce plastic packaging. the environment minister. that was monday in parliament. alicia mccarthy will be here for the rest of the week but for me, goodbye for now.
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south—eastern part of the uk are most at risk of thundery downpours in the next few days. start generally dry in the morning on tuesday, and some sunshine around but we have thickening cloud coming across the channel to bring some brain, heaviest of the rain pushing towards the south—east defendant in east anglia. rent for royal ascot. it should be dry for the cricket, sunshine and the far north of england, sunshine and showers. and at northern ireland. quite a muddy field towards the south—east with that cloud and rain coming in. while the first area of red pushes away, there's more coming up from the south and overnight we could get some torrential thundery downpours coming in from the neo— continent. in the south—east, the midlands, cost east anglia and lincolnshire for the rush hour in the morning on wednesday. wetter weather moves away, takes members to the stores but because he more returning to the south—east later. further west and it's much more straightforward. sunshine and showers, damages again 16- 20 sunshine and showers, damages again 16— 20 celsius.
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welcome to bbc news. i'm mike embley. our top stories: rare access inside the hidden world of china's detention camps. it is thought up to a million muslims are being held here. translation: we're told ahead of the visits, "if any of you speak out, you'll go to a worse place than this." that's why everyone does what they're told. the pentagon says 1,000 more us troops are being sent to the gulf to defend american assets. egypt's jailed former president mohammed morsi dies after collapsing in a cage in court in cairo. and toronto's big party is spoilt, as two people are shot and wounded

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