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this is bbc news. the headlines: president trump says his administration plans to impose additional sanctions on iran, to try to prevent the country acquiring nuclear weapons. meanwhile, british officials are set to meet senior officials in tehran for talks aimed at easing tensions between iran and the united states. hundreds of climate activists have entered a huge coal mine in north—west germany as part of a protest against global warming. 20,000 campaigners from 17 countries have also been carrying out acts of civil disobedience around the nearby city of aachen in the past few days. the two remaining contenders in the race to become the next british prime minister, boris johnson and jeremy hunt, have been making their pitch for the job to conservative party members. but borisjohnson avoided answering questions about why the police were called to the flat he shares
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with his partner on thursday night. it's 5:30am. coming up at 6:00, breakfast with rogerjohnson and rachel burden. but now on bbc news: the week in westminster. boris johnson and jeremy hunt emerge as the conservative leadership contenders. the s&p launched a ferocious attack on mrjohnson‘s record. not only is the member racist, he is stoking division in communities, and has a record of dishonesty!
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also on this programme... order — questions to the prime minister! as he celebrates ten years in the chair, we weigh up john bercow‘s decade as speaker. in a great many respects, john bercow is very different to his predecessors, certainly over the past two centuries. and is it time to re—label veggie burgers and sausages, because their names are misleading? so instead of saying "mock bacon", you'd be saying a "wheat gluten shaped smoky paprika—flavoured lump that's sliced thinly"? but first: the final phase of the fight to be our next prime minister is under way. conservative mps have put forward borisjohnson and jeremy hunt as the candidates to face party members. they'll now take part in a series of hustings — with the winner announced in mid—july. borisjohnson: 160. that borisjohnson topped the poll amongst mps was no surprise — he'd come first in every single ballot. but it was a tight race for second, withjeremy hunt beating michael gove byjust two votes.
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borisjohnson is the bookies' favourite, but at prime minister's questions, the snp‘s westminster leader reminded theresa may about some of the things he'd said in the past. does the prime minister agree with the frontrunner set to succeed her that the scottish people are "a verminous race that should be placed in ghettos and exterminated"? prime minister! can ijust say to the right honourable gentlemen that the conservative and unionist party takes the people of every part of this united kingdom not only seriously, but we welcome the contribution from people of every part of this united kingdom, because that is what makes the united kingdom the great country it is, and long may scotland remain part of it.
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ian blackford! well of course, mr speaker, words matter and actions matter. the man who published those words in his magazine, the prime minister thought was fit for the office of our top diplomat. and he hasn't stopped there. he said that scots should be banned from being prime minister — banned from being prime minister, mr speaker! and that a pound spent in croydon was worth more than a pound spent in strathclyde — this is a man who is not fit for office. it has been said, mr speaker, the ultimate measure of a person is not where they stand in moments of comfort, but where they stand at times of challenge and controversy. this is a time of challenge, and so i ask does the prime minister realise not only is the member racist, but he is a stoking division in communities and has a record of dishonesty? does the prime minister honestly believe... order! order — if the right honourable
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gentleman is referring to a current member of this house, i don't know whether he is — but if he is, he should be extremely careful in the language he uses. he should've notified the member in advance. but i would urge him — i would urge him — to weigh his words. mr ian blackford. and indeed, i think it would be much better if for now, he withdrew any allegations of racism — order — against any particular member. i don't think that this is the forum, i don't think it's the right way to behave. mr ian blackford! mr speaker, i have informed the member, but the member has called muslim women "letterboxes", described african people as having "watermelon smiles", and another disgusting slur that i would never dignify by repeating. if that's not racist, mr speaker, i don't know what is. does the prime minister honestly believe that this man is fit for the office of prime minister? prime minister!
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can ijust say to the right honourable gentlemen, he's now been leader of the snp in this chamber for some time. he's been asking prime minister's questions for some time, he might actually understand the purpose of prime minister's questions, which is to ask the prime minister about the actions of the government — that is what he should be asking us about. and i can say to the right honourable gentlemen that i believe any conservative prime minister in the future will be better for scotland than the scottish nationalist party. cheering. theresa may. now, it's ten years since john bercow was elected speaker of the house of commons. taking the chair in the wake of the expenses scandal, he's introduced changes, big and small, to the way westminster works and looks. here's duncan smith. applause. elected in 2009 after the expenses scandal, john bercow pledged to champion the rights of the backbencher. applause.
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0rder. urgent question, allison mcgovern. ministers can now be summoned to answer an urgent question on issues of the day. 0rder — questions to the prime minister! and prime minister's questions. 0nce 30 minutes, now regularly runs to a5. but his manner divides opinion. 0rder! the government chief whip has absolutely no business whatsoever shouting from a sedentary position — order! i'm really very worried about the conduct of the education secretary — in the average classroom, he would've been excluded by now! he must calm himself! the ayes to the right: 202. the noes to the left: 228. cheering. in 2015, a tearful mr bercow survived an attempt to unseat him. since then, he's spoken out against donald trump. 0ur opposition to racism and sexism,
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and our support for equality before the law and an independentjudiciary are hugely important considerations in the house of commons! applause. he's faced calls to quit and bullying allegations, which he denies. taking a key role in commons votes on brexit, but attracted flack for overruling precedent. john bercow originally said he would serve no more than nine years, but recently told an interviewer that with issues like brexit unresolved, now is not the time to quit the chair. duncan smith. well, as we heard there, john bercow had said he'd give up the job after nine years, but has decided to stay on to deal with brexit. but that hasn't stopped a handful of candidates making clear they'd like the job when he goes. one of them is labour's chris bryant. he sastohn bercow brought in real change. whenjohn came in, there was a sense of a breath of fresh air.
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i think in the past, maybe the house had been run by the clerks a bit too much. that's not to disparage the clerks, it's just to say that sometimes, somebody with the keen eye for the wider political environment can play an important role. chris bryant's full of praise for initiatives like the education centre, which sees thousands of children visit parliament every year. but what would he do differently? every speaker in the history of parliament has had their flaws — there was one who was thrown out for taking bribes, another one was very cross—eyed, which is why we are called by our name now, rather thanjust by the speaker nodding to somebody. and i guess ifjohn has a failure, it's that sometimes he likes telling people off from the chair. and even when i think he's being nice, i think it feels quite hurtful. chris bryant. so to weigh upjohn bercow‘s first
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ten years in the chair, i spoke to dr hannah white from the institute for government, and lord norton of louth — parliamentary expert, author, and conservative peer. i asked him ifjohn bercow would be seen as one of the great reforming speakers? i think he will, because when you look at past speakers in the role they performed, they've presided rather than have any directional role of really rebalancing the relationship between parliament and the executive. and as has been mentioned, i think that's principally his role, because when you look at reform in parliament, it's carried out for different reasons. you reform it in order to strengthen the house in relation to the government, to strengthen in terms of how it goes about its works within the broader working context. but i think fundamentally, it is that point about some element of rebalancing the relationship between the house and the government. so the changes he's introduced do set him apart from his predecessors. hannah, how would you describe his style?
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i mean, john bercow himself may accept that he's a little bit eccentric or tigger—ish, but he has been criticised for going somewhat over the top — for example, sometimes in the way he tells people off. he had to apologise just a week or two ago saying that a tory mp hadn't been a very good whip, for example. yes, i have to say when he became speaker, having worked with him as a member of parliament, i was surprised that he was willingly taking on a role where he wouldn't be able to give speeches in the chamber, because it was clearly something he enjoyed when he wasjust a normal member of parliament. and i think we've seen the sort of tension around that with him personally, that he does want to have an opportunity to speak. he does want to have an opportunity to demonstrate that he knows the house well and members well. so that has sometimes led him to say what some people would think is too much. but again, that's possibly partly because it's such a contrast with some of his predecessors. and he's been a very controversial speaker in a lot of ways — i'm thinking about the decision not to allow donald trump to come and address parliament, and his involvement in the whole
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brexit process. yes, it's very different from his predecessors. if they took a position, it would be quite behind—the—scenes. he is very overt in the way he goes about taking positions which could be very controversial. so he becomes a bit of a marmite speaker in that respect. i think there are members throughout the house who do regard his role in rebalancing that relationship with the house and government in a very positive light, but then are somewhat critical of the extent in which that personal intervention and actually taking decisions. hannah, we have to talk about the bullying accusations which have arisen under john bercow‘s watch. without going into specific allegations, do you think that there is a feeling that he could have done more personally to conquer the accusations of bullying and harassment which have really come to the fore? i think this is an example of where parliament is a difficult thing, in terms of reforming itself, because parliament doesn't have a sort of central authoritative leadership by design that can push for change.
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and i think that my personal view is thatjohn bercow could have done more to show leadership on the bullying and harassment issue. they sort of accepted the recommendations of the review that was done, but then the commission hasn't visibly done very much to push that agenda forward afterwards. i think it was regrettable that when there were allegations against the speaker personally, he didn't push for those to be investigated. because actually, i think that has stymied his ability to take leadership on this. if those could have been investigated and put to one side or dealt with in whatever way was appropriate, then i think he could have taken a stronger leadership role on an issue which is really important and has not yet been resolved. so lord norton, final one to you then — what do you think the next speaker, whenever he or she appears, can learn from john bercow? what would be the takeaways from his time in the chair? well, i think it is that duality
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of his role of representing the house in relation to government, which is and ought to be the legacy which members would appreciate, and whether his successor feels the need to perhaps go back more to that presiding role. but it would be difficult, given how you've got someone, as has been mentioned, been providing a leadership role. but in a situation which is very difficult, because there's actually a structural issue. there's nobody authoritatively who can speak for the house of commons — there is divided authority, and that is part of the problem. the speaker has a role, so it would be quite a challenge, given the context in which the speaker now operates, which is now independent of john bercow. because a bit like his predecessor, the controversy he faced over the expenses, the pressure there. so there will be a challenge for a speaker, and on the one hand, having a leadership role, but at the same time being that
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neutral presiding officer representing the whole house. 0k, well, for the time being, thank you both for coming onto the programme. now, let's take a look at some news in brief. at prime minister's questions, jeremy corbyn wanted to know why it was taking so long to make safe buildings with cladding like that used on grenfell tower. two years on, why do 328 high—rise buildings, homes to thousands of people from newham to newcastle, still have the same grenfell—style cladding? of course we asked building owners in the private sector to do the action that we believed was necessary, but we see they haven't been acting quickly enough, and that is why we will fully fund the replacement of cladding on high—rise residential buildings and interim measures are in place where necessary on all 163 high—rise a private residential buildings with unsafe acm cladding. the government has urged up to half a million owners of tumbledryers to send them back amid concerns
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they're a fire risk. some of the whirlpool dryers have already been modified. a conservative had a personal reason for championing safety in the home. i don't talk about this a lot in public but i lost my father in an electrical accident when i was ten, and there isn't a father's day for a0 years when i haven't wished he were still here. consumer safety must come first. can i thank the minister for the action she has taken today? we do have some of the strongest consumer safety standards in the world, but sometimes the enforcement is challenging. so, will she take this occasion to also consider ways of strengthening the enforcement and whether penalties against producers are effective and strong enough? the computer game fortnite has become a global phenomenon with more than 200 million players. but critics, including prince harry, say it's addictive. executives from the company behind it, epic games, have been questioned by mps looking
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into immersive and addictive technologies. the chair of the committee quoted what prince harry had said. it's created to addict, an addiction to keep you in front of the computer for as long as possible, it's so irresponsible. what response would you give to prince harry about the concerns he has expressed about fortnite? we were quite taken aback at epic, and really rather surprised because the statements that were made, in ourview, couldn't be further from the truth, from our intentions and design philosophy. it's really always been in our effort and intent to create a fun, fair, flexible, engaging, and generous form of interactive entertainment for our audience. and, so, i feel like a statement that suggests there was some sort of nefarious attempt to extract short—term profit is a real mischaracterisation.
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an age—check scheme designed to stop under—18s viewing pornographic websites has been delayed for a second time. the new rules would require pawn sites to verify the age of uk internet users who could face being blocked if they fail to comply. the culture secretary admitted this fresh delay was due to an error by his department. although my statement is an apology for delay, it is not a change of policy or a lessening of this government's determination to bring these changes about. age verification for online pornography needs to happen. this latest delay does not inspire confidence, which is extremely serious given
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that this is a matter about protecting children from harmful content. and another six—month delay is not acceptable. a labour mp says the government needs to come up with a strategy for recycling out—of—service nuclear submarines. luke pollard said the uk still had every nuclear sub it's ever owned, with 13 in plymouth and seven in rosyth. these submarines are not only taking up valuable space in our dockyards, but they are costing the taxpayers millions of pounds a year in storage and maintenance costs. the public accounts committee have today released a report that puts the cost for the taxpayer at £30 million a year. this money could and should be used for dismantling and de—fuelling those submarines and finally dealing with these retired boats. the report warns the mod are reaching a crisis point in terms of space. it says that the mod will run out of space to store these submarines by the mid—2020s.
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there's to be a by—election in brecon and radnorshire after more than 10% of voters signed a petition recalling the sitting mp. chris davies. the conservative, admitted a false expenses claim at southwark crown court in march. it's the second time an mp has been removed by voters. there will now be a by—election, in which mr davies will be able to stand if he wishes. the court of appeal has ordered the government to review the way it grants export licences for arms sales to saudi arabia. ministers are legally obliged to assess allegations of serious human rights violations before letting sales go ahead. in the case of saudi arabia's war in yemen, judges said the government had made no attempt to do so. in a commons statement, the international trade secretary said the court had not ruled that the decisions were right or wrong, only that the decision—making process was flawed. we disagreed with the judgement and will seek permission to appeal.
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alongside this, we are carefully considering the implications of the judgement for decision—making. while we do this, we will not grant any new licences for export to saudi arabia and its coalition partners which might be used in the conflict in yemen. i would stress that this judgement is not about whether the government made the right or wrong decisions but whether the decision—making process was rational. and the judgement emphasises that there would not be only one answer on future risks, if historic violations were found to have taken place. in other words, changing the process, as set out by the court, does not necessarily mean any of the decisions would be different. we are supposed to be the guardians of international humanitarian law, not that people found in breach of it. the court of appeal's ruling today is a damning indictment of this government's handling of export licences to the kingdom of saudi arabia.
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the secretary of state has tried to excuse himself by pleading that this judgement is not about whether the government has made the right a wrong decision, but whether the decision—making process was rational. surely even he must understand that if the decision process was not rational, then the government could have no confidence that it was correct. barry gardiner. now, what happens when a commons committee produces a report, and the government ignores it? the environmental audit committee has called for action to put a stop to throwaway clothes and poor working conditions in the fashion supply chain. but the government says measures to tackle the impact of fast fashion are already in place. the committee chair mary creagh says this isn't the first time a report has been ignored. she spoke to faye kidd. they have hinted that they might want to look at an extended producer responsibility scheme but they are talking about consulting on it and introducing it by around 2025. we have scientists warning us that we have just 11 years left to tackle damaging climate change and keep global temperature rises down to one and a half degrees.
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0ur report is a really important way to talk about sustainable production and sustainable consumption. these are things that the government has signed up to, at the un, at the eu. it doesn't seem to want to take the policy decisions to make them a reality. we've been incredibly frustrated in the past, for example, our reports into disposable coffee cups and plastic bottles recommended that we should stop the off shoring of plastic waste, introduce a latte levy and introduce the deposit return scheme. and here we are few years on still waiting to see any government action those things. do you think that select committees have enough power? i think in a hung parliament, which is what we are in at the moment, select committees are incredibly powerful, and that we have the powers to ask any minister to come and give evidence in front of us.
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one of the frustrations has been that there is a completely revolving door set of ministers so in terms of trying to do continuity and holding ministers to account, it's very difficult. and would a change of leadership make a difference? i think that until we unblock the brexit pipeline, the best minds in the british civil service and the british government will be focused on what to do about this critical issue, and that we won't get back to politics as usual as we know it until that issue is resolved. so, we have... it is an incredibly important time for select committees, it is really important that given that parliament isn't legislating, that mps are still able to make a contribution to the nation and its policy—making through select committees. and i hope that on our committee that we've demonstrated that we can do that time and again. mary creagh. finally, the eu is weighing up proposals to prevent the manufacturers of vegetarian food from using words like sausage, burger and mince to describe their products, on the grounds they could mislead consumers.
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but a lords inquiry has heard that other descriptions, such as veggie tube or veggie disc, could deter people from buying food that supporters believe is healthier and better for the environment. so, instead of saying mock bacon, you'd be saying a wheat gluten shaped smoky paprika flavoured lump that is sliced thinly. it just would become quite impossible. who owns the word mince? if you look at the word mince, it means chopped up finely. you mince and onions, you mince garlic, you mince herbs. in fact, inside a mince pie, there's no meat, right? it's chopped up fruits. so i think language and terms like that mean that you can be overly restrictive on terms. the nfu is relaxed about vegetarian sausages and burgers but not other terms. i think we are quite concerned
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about, i think you used the term "ripping off", or sort of mimicking terms. we are quite concerned about that, as i said in terms of chicken style or there is a product called vegetarian shredded duck. well, is the duck vegetarian or is it a vegetarian product? what is it? to my mind, you've got some fantastic products coming through, 20% of products coming to shelves are vegetarian or vegan products with fantastic credentials and they are getting customers excited about it. quite why you need to rip off meat terms, i don't know. actually, we do want to mimic meat, we actively want to mimic meat because we want to get people to drive a conscious choice and to continue with their same eating behaviours, so, put vegetarian burger inside a bun and still enjoy a barbecue with people whether they want to eat meat or not eat meat. geoff bryant. all we need now is a bit of barbecue weather! and that's it from me for this week, dojoin us on bbc parliament on monday night at ”pm for a full round—up of the day here at westminster.
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but for now from me, alicia mccarthy, goodbye. good morning. the week ahead is set to be incredibly humid at times so one of the fresh mornings of the week with temperatures around 9— i2 the fresh mornings of the week with temperatures around 9— 12 degrees, a bright start for many with a fair bit of sunshine around. bit of cloud in the hebrides and patchy rain which will gradually diminish. a shower across scotland later on but tending to the south—west, increasing breeze and increasing amounts of cloud, outbreaks of rain, south—west england, spreading to parts of south—west wales and northern ireland later on, some of which could be on the heavy side. after the sunshine, it turns hazy
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and increasingly cloudy compared with saturday. temperatures in the mid—teens in the north, mid— 20s in the south—east corner. humidity levels build with the chance of severe storms through sunday night and into monday, particularly through parts of wales, the midlands, northern england and spreading their way northwards into parts of eastern scotland later. that could bring flush lighting and travel disruption as we going to monday morning cosmic rush—hour. we walked keep you updated —— flash lightning.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast with rogerjohnson and rachel burden. 0ur headlines today: the neighbour of boris johnson and his partner defends calling police and giving a tape to a newspaper after apparently hearing a row — he says he feared for the couple's safety. tackling the tensions between iran and the us — a senior foreign office minister heads to tehran to appeal for calm. ready to roar england's lionesses prepare to take on cameroon in the knockout stages of the women's world cup for many of us, early summer's long days are a welcome treat, but can you have too much of a good thing? we'll be catching up with a family in shetland where the sun sets
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