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tv   Victoria Derbyshire  BBC News  June 23, 2019 3:30pm-4:01pm BST

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this is bbc news. the headlines: there's continued focus on borisjohnson's private life after he failed to answer questions about why police were called to his partner's flat following reports of a row. i think it's always easier to just give an explanation but i think that they key thing is learn how you get onto the issues. what we cannot have is it being a distraction. the united states reportedly launched a cyber—attack on iranian weapons systems on thursday as president trump pulled out of air strikes on the country. neither iran norany neither iran nor any other hostile
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actor should mistake us prudence and discretion for weakness. five people are arrested over alleged accounting fraud at the bakery chain, patisserie valerie. england's lionesses prepare to take on cameroon in the quarter finals of the women's world cup. now on bbc news, victoria derbyshire takes a look back at some of the highlights on her over the next half hour, we will bring you some of the exclusive journalism we have broadcast over the last week. on tuesday, we revealed there some gay men and against the current blood donation rules are that they are secretly pregnant. in england and wales, the
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guidance is that it men should not have co nta ct guidance is that it men should not have contact with other men before giving blood to prevent possible transmission of hiv. when a guy 9 is giving blood, they have to tick a box to say that they have complied with these rules but we found that some light on the lies can change in a heartbeat. —— lies. we have probably seen adverts like this everywhere. it galls me every time i hear a radio on the asking people to give blood, a huge section of society has been denied out. over the past few months, i've spoken to 6 gay men from across england who are all sexually active. however, they have also done in blood. why shouldn't they be able to have my blood, or other peoples gay
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plot? none of them has spoken out about going against the rules, until now. so you are a gay man and you have sex with men. when was the last time you had sex with a man? about a week ago. according to the rules, you are breaking them. why are you doing that. i grew up in a family which gave blood regularly and instilled in me that it is the right thing to do. i carried on and doing it after i began having sex with gay men. david takes a pill every day which could prevent him from getting hiv. david also uses condoms which he says low is the risk of other infections. what would you say to those who think this isn't the right thing to do? to me, it is rooted in homophobia. i practice safe sex more than any heterosexual person i know, i get tested. i don't see why i should be refused directive help
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fellow people by giving my blood. i don't think the people that i have saved by give my blood will complain that it came from a gay man. david says he has given blood several times over the last year, now he is doing it again. his actions go directly against the guidelines and could be putting other peoples lives at risk. he is farfrom could be putting other peoples lives at risk. he is far from alone could be putting other peoples lives at risk. he is farfrom alone in doing this. nhs blood and transplant, also known as nhs bt is an organisation which looks up blood in england. the surface lies entirely on donations from the public. they silently need to collect over 6000 blood donations per day just to collect over 6000 blood donations per dayjust to meet collect over 6000 blood donations per day just to meet the collect over 6000 blood donations per dayjust to meet the needs of patients across the country. so why does the 3 month rule exists for men who have sex with men? no blood servers this chick alternately blood but says that as a period of time... it is not just
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but says that as a period of time... it is notjust gay men who aren't allowed to give blood in the 3 month window. commercial sex workers and people who engage in group 6 are also banned from donating in at the time frame. where are we working to now then? this was the first place that i donated blood as an openly 95v that i donated blood as an openly gay man. ryan has been donating blood against the rules for nearly 10 years. trepidation, nervous about getting caught. when you are ticking the boxes that you had no sexual relations with another man for 12 months, knowing that was a lie, what was going through your mind?|j months, knowing that was a lie, what was going through your mind? i felt that i wasn't good enough, that my story didn't matter, my blood didn't matter. it's not nice that we are almost discriminated against and you know that you are doing something that you shouldn't be do, at the
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same time, morally, you are helping somebody is beginning that blood. many gay men we have spoken to say that they are donating their blood in order to fight the system to stop but ryan's reasons are a bit more personal. his mum passed away very suddenly and before she did, ryan promised that he would continuing medically donating everything he could. she was always the driving force from a young age that you should or can donate and you should give blood so that other people have the chance to live their lives as best as possible, to give that gift of health to someone else. why do you want to give blood to a system that doesn't want you? because there are people crying out for it. daily, weekly, monthly, there are people that need blood. why shouldn't they be able to have my blood, or other 95v be able to have my blood, or other gay people is blood? nhs bt have told us that they are worried about
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what we have uncovered. we are very concerned that people are knowingly going against the guidelines. we do have strategies in place to protect the blood supply but the guidelines are there for a reason. the main reason being it is to protect vulnerable patients receiving this blood so we would really encourage people to follow the guidelines even if they do not agree with them. they say that men who have sex with men are more likely to have hiv and other sexual infections. all donors have two complete health checks when donating, it is notjust men who have sex with men who we as about what sort of sex they have been having. i think the current evidence shows that men are disproportionately affected with hiv, notjust hiv, the viruses too. the safety of the nation was no blood supply has recently been in spotlight. families have been giving
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evidence in an enquiry examining why thousands of people between the late 70s and early 90s were given infected blood products from high—risk sources, with many contracting hepatitis c or hiv. but times have changed and blood screening has improved. to reflect less, in 2017, the blood service reduce the wait time for men who have sex with men from one year to the now 3 months. freedom to donate about one of the organisations that campaignfor about one of the organisations that campaign for this to happen but they are concerned that men are big comic breaking the rules. i understand it, i get breaking the rules. i understand it, iget it, breaking the rules. i understand it, i get it, it hugely frustrating. a lot of people are very emotional about this, and shoot they should be, because it donating blood is an incredible thing. but it's not helpful or supporting something that has already received in the blood donating policy. i don't think
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anything that goes against out is that helpful. frankly, i'd ask them to get involved and get engage with what is going on, notjust simply protest about the situation. other organisations are consulting with the blood service on reducing the window period even further. we caught up with david after his latest blood donation, he says the changes are not happening quick enough. what would you say to people who have seen the blood enquiry going on at the moment? what you say to those people who think it is irresponsible of gaming to do that. no state fish and i know goes and gets checked every 6 months or i would say to people, read up on the fa cts would say to people, read up on the facts before casting aspersions. nobody knows how many sexually active gay men are breaking the rules and giving blood. but the advice to all donors is — follow the guidelines. next, former eastenders star, daniella westbrook, told us that last year she was taking four
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grams of cocaine every day and sometimes drinking a bottle of vodka. now after his sixth stint in rehab she says she is now drug and alcohol free and happy for the first time in years. i now feel amazing, i still longing to go but if feel a lot better. i think going into rehab for 3 months was the best thing for me. it took me weeks just to level out, stretching out, put on some weight, get back into a normal eating routine and really losing and learn about the seas i have. —— the disease i have. i couldn't tell why when i was younger, i had this void inside me which needed filling. a juice drink and drugs which made me worse. they manage i put one inside mei worse. they manage i put one inside me i was like, i'm off and running. how bad did it get at the height of your addiction last year? this time around, after 111 years sober, the
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progression was very, very fast. i relax because i just progression was very, very fast. i relax because ijust really wanted to not be here anymore, my mental health was not good place, i was too ashamed to ashamed to talk to people about how i felt about my mental health. i stop taking one of my medications. ijust felt nobody really understood, that is what my illness was telling me so ijust went back to what i thought wouldn't let me down which was drugs. a. what did you do? i try to kill myself on a daily basis through drink and drugs. i was taking 3—4 g a day and drinking a bottle of vodka most days. drinking at least 4 times a week. there wasn't much food in the fridge but there was vodka and there was cocaine. i thought that was my quickest way to dry and everybody would think, oh, she was a drug addict, she overdosed. because i was too weak and too scared to take my
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life another way. and sleeping ta blets life another way. and sleeping tablets and antidepressants on top of that? yes, beta-blockers, sleeping tablets, just to come down faster and try to kill myself. on top of that, i had a cancer diagnosis which i just top of that, i had a cancer diagnosis which ijust ignored for 12 months until my sun give up his house and moved in with me and was co nsta ntly house and moved in with me and was constantly on at me and battling to get me to see what i was doing with my life. it broke his heart. air and he would come into your bedroom? he would put his hand on my face to make sure i was breathing, he said i looked dead. i looked at myself in the mirror and thought i looked fine. he was telling me that she didn't want me to dry and ijust couldn't answer him, i was so mentally deranged. that picture you posted on twitter shows what you
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look like just before christmas. you hate that without a graph. and unlike it's a reminderfor me. it might describe what is going on there. i'm off my face, my jaw is all tight, my eyes are all gone, i'm quant and skinny. i thought i looked 0k quant and skinny. i thought i looked ok but i looked horrific. because i have no weight on my face, everything about it, how would you go out looking like that? i weighed probably about 7 stone, when i went into treatment i was about 6 stone. ididn't into treatment i was about 6 stone. i didn't eat for days on end. if i had a bowl of soup every few days, i thought i was doing well. how do you think use advised? by the grace of god, i think. how think use advised? by the grace of god, ithink. how do think use advised? by the grace of god, i think. how do you think use
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advised? my sun was constantly on me. i thought it was great, i wanted him out the door so i could use more. i was completely obsessed with drugs and nothing else mattered. he tried on a new use eve?|j drugs and nothing else mattered. he tried on a new use eve? i brought a lot of people back free and in the morning and he kicked them all. he was saying to them, what are you doing hanging out with a 45—year—old woman who looks like a mess? why do you think he did that? it was embarrassing for him. those people we re embarrassing for him. those people were using me. you're considering having southerly for the botched surgery later this year? yes, they put a metal plate and he had because it has receded here. but i think i'm going abroad to do that later this year. i have put on everything on
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hold because i want to get a certain amount of recovery on me. ijust wa nt to amount of recovery on me. ijust want to have some time to do that while i am not in any pain at the moment, i will let it go for a little bit longer. i go to aa meetings every day, unless i'm in town i will do a lunchtime meeting because i won't be home in time. i can do at the meetings everywhere. you don't how to have the money to go to treatment and get well. today, you bumped into michael gove he was standing... i did, he said hello. how do you think he knew you? probably because i've been in the papers. were you aware that he admitted taking cocaine? papers. were you aware that he admitted taking cocaine ?|j papers. were you aware that he admitted taking cocaine? i saw it on the peep out but i didn't really ta ke the peep out but i didn't really take notice. there is nothing on the news the other day saying how
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cocaine is the biggest drug everyone is taking, the biggest secret. we have a huge epidemic in this country and we need more treatment centres and we need more treatment centres and get things done. that is something i'm hoping to do. do you think there is a difference between people, the way people treat middle—class professionals who have taken cocaine and people like yourself? and the might of course there is. they were saying they are under pressure and it is just a phase they are going through. under pressure and it is just a phase they are going throughm will be stuff like slots but at the end of the day and add it as an addict is an addict on the matter with that your appeal or down there. do you think you have thought about the impact of you taking cocaine, for example, links to knife crime, the fact that kids can be involved in carrying cocaine for drug dealers before they sell it on — did you think about that? on the back now, i
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never have thought about that actually, it's a great question. is to get my cocaine from one person and children were not involved. when i look the bigger picture and listen to peoples stories, what they have made their children do, the situations they have been in, i'm shocked about it but that is real life that is what is out there. knife crime, gun crime, gangs, drugs, they all need stopping. now my eyes are open, my aim is to get a treatment centre up and running and get as many free beds as we can for people in areas that cannot afford rehab because so many people are crying out for it. you have been in that they have 5 times before, does it feel like a battle every day? today, the obsession is not on me, it has been lifted, it can also come back at any time. but i have chose to do with that, people i can reach
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out to. i do not have that obsession, and very blissful. last year, you want to do basically dry? this year, we look at the future, what do you think about?” this year, we look at the future, what do you think about? i have lots of things going on. i'm speaking at a lot of conventions with aa and everything. i'm working and hopefully doing this course, and to help other people. i have kept myself busy with the right things, i had a reawakening with life and reset my structure and my life, what's going on, it is all good.“ someone is watching right now who is struggling with an addiction, weather it be drug drugs, third, whatever, what would you say to them? get help. ring up a helpline. there will be somebody who will a nswer there will be somebody who will answer the phone and they will be another addict, that is all they are run by. someone will get you antiquity meeting if you cannot get
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to one. even if you do not understand at first, don't be nervous, we are all the same but we arejust on different nervous, we are all the same but we are just on different pages. you nervous, we are all the same but we arejust on different pages. you can get help so just reach out and get some help. do you feel happy at the minute? yes, i do. is at the first time ina minute? yes, i do. is at the first time in a long time? on the mac for about six years, is the first time i felt happy. final, meet the family you have no electricity or gas bills because they live off grid immediately or not connected to any official electricity supply or gas mains. recently, theresa may announced the uk would aim to be carbon neutral by 2050. a big part of reducing atomic meeting that target will be reducing the amount of energy we use in our homes. the watkins family in wales use the sun to charge the phones, food waste to power their showers. we are in
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pembrokeshire, the far west of wales to meet the watkins and family. they have lived completely off grid for two years have lived completely off grid for two yea rs now have lived completely off grid for two years now but their place is so remote that we have been told that this trusty card will not get up the hills so we have been giving the directions to a field and then they will come and pick us up. we are in your field, will come and pick us up. we are in yourfield, i think. matthew and carrots both used to be vets before they gave it all up to live here, along with the author elsa and son, billy. it is basically junk. the fussing got up he was the
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horse lorry. we also have a camper van up against it, that is our bedroom. with the family going, we got two big flatbed trailers and slid them behind and then built a little cabin on top. on the left is a spare bedroom. that is like a full double mattress! so this is the shower? and it's cold water? this is hot water in this outdoor shower? yes, of course! we have a hot tub made out of ibc. you haven't got a hot top! manual washing machine solution, all you do is pull on at these ropes year. pill for about ten
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minutes. wales has one of the most progressive policies in the uk when it comes to living off grid, thanks to the decade old one planet development scheme. in a nutshell, it allows you to build on agricultural land if you can make enough money to live off it whilst living within your ecological means. a bio digester means you are essentially creating gas from your food waste kicks? ? essentially creating gas from your food waste kicks?? exactly. we have bugs from a cals stomach, turning what we feed it into methane. this isa what we feed it into methane. this is a work in progress. this oven works on gas from your old food waste ? works on gas from your old food waste? yes, we made a hobby out of drilling some holes in a copper
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pipe, the gas is piped into their unbeaten and become like that and cook off that. they do we go is one way, that is the wee toilet. so there is a toilet for number one and number two? we feel that for about two months. now we take it outside and leave it for about a year, and add compost down to compost and we put it around the trees. in order to qualify for the scheme, they have to earn at least £500 a month from the land. the family sell eggs from the chickens to local shops. isn't that about normal? yes, that's pretty good. one of the most liberating things about moving up here is no electricity bills, now gas bills, no water bills. these are our solar panels. i don't think we have
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reduced our electricity use like much, we charge our phones, we have laptops, we have the tv, the fridge and freezer. to people, both vets, both had careers, choose to give it allup and both had careers, choose to give it all up and live here — why? everybody reduced to a situation where things are available all the time and we just suddenly started to feel less and less secure so we thought that we'd like to look after ourselves a bit more. but some of the family have more inventive ideas. i think we should labour when my dragons live. —— i think we should live with my dragons live. where is that planet? it isjust by afrika! you are, by all intents and
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purposes, average members of society. how long do you think it will be before we more people like you will do this? not having a job is scary, that is a brave move, really. there are loads of people that would love to do this already but the planning process is such a barrier that i do not know how many people will end up doing it in time to make a big difference. the united nations say you can have as little as 11 years to stop a climate catastrophe, to halt out or take difficult decisions from governments. hard choices from business and a willingness from us as individuals. but the people we have met have shown that living in an environment of film we can be liberating not limiting. and if it we re liberating not limiting. and if it were to halt a catastrophe, it is a
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way of life that the society will have to adopt sooner, rather than later. that's it for this week, if you have a story you want us to look at, sent us an a story you want us to look at, sent us an e—mail. we are back live monday morning at 10am on bbc two and the bbc news channel and online. thanks for watching. temperatures had been rising over the past few days. this afternoon, there was quite a lot of clout in there was quite a lot of clout in the sky, some brightness and sunshine on offer. the cloud through parts of wales, northern ireland, that weather will show its high and increasingly as we head through the rest of the afternoon and this
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evening. parts of southern and eastern england should stay dry but warm and muggy too. is that rain pushes no force c 20—50 millimetres across parts of england. some thunderstorms mixed in with those heavy showers as well. the rain could be heavy and persistent for the eastern parts of scotland, and we will be left with lying surface was out on the ruse forcing. frame that rain continues forcing. frame that rain continues for northern scotland, could be heavy at times. for the rest of the uk, showers are building, they will be hit or miss. when you do catch one, they will be heavy and potentially fund their way as well. it will feel hot and humid, high teens to low 20s. 3 monday evening, that rain continues for eastern parts of scotland then our attention totally south at his next batch of
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heavy rain and fund that he showers moves in for many southern parts of england. there could be some localised flash flooding problems as well. it could be hot, humid, and sticky overnight into tuesday. that rain pushes slowly away to the north and east but linking for a time across parts of scotland. to the south, a drier bright spell weather. later in the week after that u nsettled later in the week after that unsettled star, high pressures takes charge, some drier conditions developing later in the week. witness the odd on which, we could see temperatures in the west up to 32 celsius.
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this is bbc news. the headlines at apm. there's continued focus on borisjohnson's private life after he failed to answer questions about why police were called to his partner's flat following reports of a row. i think it's always easier to just give an explanation but i think that they key thing is learn how you get onto the issues. what we cannot have is it being a distraction. the united states reportedly launched a cyber—attack on iranian weapons systems on thursday as president trump pulled out of air strikes on the country. neither iran nor any other hostile actor should mistake us prudence and discretion for weakness. five people are arrested over alleged accounting fraud

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