hello. it's ten o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. a shocking picture has emerged of the bodies of a toddler and her dad, who died trying to cross the mexican border after being refused entry to the us. it comes after reports of children being held in horrific conditions in a detention centre in texas. a number of children who did have opportunities to go outside told me that they couldn't bring themselves to play because they were trying to conserve their energy to stay alive in there. we'll be talking to a children's rights lawyer, who's just come back from the centre. people who experience revenge porn could soon be entitled to lifelong anonymity under a review of laws covering image—based sexual abuse.

we'll talk to this woman, whose ex posted 9 explicit photos her on face book and a pornogrphy site. she tells us she couldn't face leaving her flat, after she was named in a local paper. it's emerged that moors murderer ian brady was allowed to mix with vulnerable teenage prisoners for more than five years, even after one claimed that brady had had sex with him. he was closely supervised. there are a lwa ys he was closely supervised. there are always two officers on duty but brady was quite a cunning character. do you think it is quite shocking? yes, definitely. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live.

first, annita mcveigh with the news. the us has of representatives has approved a package for people stuck at the border with mexico. it would had to pass the senate. it comes as concerns grow for migrant children being held in squalid detention centres. victims of offenders who pose sexually explicit images online without consent could be given better protection under a review of sexual abuse laws, the government has announced. sharing explicit images without consent, sometimes called revenge porn, is currently classed as a communications crime, meaning victims are not granted

automatic anonymity. campaigners say it should be reclassified as a sexual offence so that they are. a bbc investigation has found ian brady was allowed to mix with vulnerable young prisoners for more than five years during his life sentence. it is alleged he had sex with one young inmate while at wormwood scrubs in the 1970s and 80s. the ministry ofjustice said the prison service has undergone huge changes. the conservative leadership contenders are continuing to clash over their ability to deliver brexit. jeremy hunt has insisted the next prime minister must be trustworthy to renegotiate a brexit deal with the eu. mr hunt described the brexit date of october the 31st as a fake deadline. sheryl crow has spoken of her shock at learning the original master tapes of some of her biggest hit albums

went up in flames at a fire at universal studios in hollywood. she said she did not understand how the extent of the damage caused to the archive in los angeles and recently revealed in the new york times had been covered up for the past 11 yea rs. been covered up for the past 11 years. san francisco has become the first city in the usa to ban the sale of e—cigarette over concerns about a dramatic surge in use among young people. 0fficials voted to ban stores selling the vaporisers and have also made it illegal for online retailers to deliver to addresses in the city. e—cigarette producer said the city. e—cigarette producer said the move will create a thriving market. break dancing has been formally accepted as an olympic games sport. ioc members voted unanimously at the annual meeting to include it at the paris games in 2024. a include it at the paris games in 202a. a final decision will be taken by the organisation's executive board but it is thought to be highly unlikely the result will be

overturned. 0ther unlikely the result will be overturned. other events like skateboarding have also been improved. i think we see it in the 0lympics it will not be quite in that sort of setting. back to you, victoria. we're going to begin our programme today with a very upsetting and very shocking photograph. and we have decided to show it to you to because it illustrates the desperate situation faced by many migrants and asylum seekers trying to cross the border from mexico into the us. and we feel it's important not to censor the reality of what some people are experiencing. i want to warn you that it's very distressing and you may not want to see and you may not want children to see it. it shows the body of a two—year—old girl, valeria, with her arm wrapped around he father as they float face down in the rio grande, which separates the united states and mexico. 0scar martinez ramirez, from salvador, had been trying

to help his family cross illegally after failing to gain entry. the mexican president, andres manuel lopez 0brador, has called their deaths very reg retta ble. it comes as democrats in the us house of representatives approve $4.5 billion — that's £3.5 billion — in humanitarian aid for the southern border. it still may not happen though, as it's needs to be approved by the republican—controlled senate. the debate‘s been fuelled by reports of children held in horrific conditions in a migrant detention centre in clint in texas. we can speak now to warren binford, a law professor and children's rights lawyer — who visited the clint detention centre in texas last week.

iam going i am going to ask you what you saw their ina i am going to ask you what you saw their in a moment and ask you to describe it to our british audience. first of all, i want you to respond to the news that the bodies had been found on the banks of the rio grande and this image is now being published around the world. yes, it is just incredibly heartbreaking and tragic. i have interviewed a number of people who have described their traversing of the rio grande and sam familiar with children having to cling to mothers, while mothers cling to mothers, while mothers cling to mothers, while mothers cling to their fathers when they try to cross the rio grande day. they also interviewed a mother last year in one of the detention centres he described her two—year—old being jostled out of a raft crossing the rio grande and the child being submerged and muddy waters, so someone submerged and muddy waters, so someone else he was not related to theirfamily, someone else he was not related to their family, jumped in

someone else he was not related to theirfamily, jumped in after this little toddler and was able to grab onto hand left her up out of the water and pass her back to the raft had almost died himself. it is incredibly treacherous and the fact that people keep coming keep taking on these high life risk averse shows us on these high life risk averse shows us just how desperate they are to come to america. i wonder what effect could the deaths of this man and his daughter have on america's immigration debate? you know, ijust don't know what it is going to take. there is no question that immigration is arguably the most divisive topic in our country right now. as you know, i havejust returned from a facility in which children are being severely neglected and arguably abused and there are still people on the radio station saying that these children came here illegally or their parents

came here illegally or their parents came here illegally or their parents came here illegally, so it is ok to abuse them. i just came here illegally, so it is ok to abuse them. ijust don't understand how immigration can be so divisive for a country, to the point that you'd think it is ok for children to be treated horrendously. give our audience more insight into what you sell at that centre regarding the treatment of those children. the first thing we saw was this —— was the number of children. it only had capacity for 104 adults. when we arrived there they provided list of over 350 children at this facility. then we scanned the list, we were taken aback by the number of very young children at this facility, infa nts, young children at this facility, infants, toddlers, preschoolers, school aged children, over 100 of them. how old was the youngest? the youngest was an infant. i personally

interviewed and eight—month—old. it was a situation where she and her mum needed tremendous support. how old was the mum? 15 or 16. both children, both needing support and supervision but no one here was providing any kind of support to these children who were being held. these children were locked up in sales and kept there for 24 hours a day. many of the children described having to sleep on concrete floors or concrete benches. those who had mats slept six to a mat at a time for that they were not enough mats to go around. there is a whole system of who to allocate the beds t. they talked about sleeping as many as three children to a layer in a bunk bed, trying to keep as many

people of the cold, concrete floor as possible. they were fed hardly any food. the food they were fed was insta nt any food. the food they were fed was instant food. the children were dirty, they were filthy dirty, they was a lice infestation and an influenza outbreak. the children could hardly ever take showers. they described never being able to take showers and never being able to brush their teeth, depending on who we spoke to. some of the children we re we spoke to. some of the children were being kept there for over three weeks. the border patrol facilities are notoriously filthy and oppressive places and everyone has a lwa ys oppressive places and everyone has always agreed that children do not belong there and yet here there were, 350 children in this facility in the state that we discovered them. where were the parents of most of those children? 4296 of the

children had parents in the united states and they are coming here to be reunited with parents. another 44% of the children had other family or potential guardians living in the united states and they are coming to be with those people. it is only about 14% of these kids who need to be in government custody and it does not make sense to keep these children in these conditions for any extended period of time. they need to be with families immediately. after your visit some children were removed but over 100 children had been returned to that centre. just a day after being transferred. that is correct. basically, what is happening, the border patrol has released a statement and said that they want to use this facility to streamline the process of getting these children into what is called

these children into what is called the office of refugee resettlement custody. it is the department of the united states responsible for caring for these children during the reunification process. they report they are overrun and do not have enough beds available and are leaving the children in the border patrol stations far longer than they are allowed to and a us law. children are only allowed to be in these border patrol stations for a few hours. when we discovered children who had been in border patrol stations for more than three weeks we become deeply concerned, especially in conditions we witnessed last week. meanwhile, there is $4.5 billion bill has been pushed through the house of representatives for humanitarian aid. is that welcome news? it is a lwa ys aid. is that welcome news? it is always welcome news when he national leaders are focused on children and

trying to provide support and adequate resources for children. what i really challenge these leaders to do this focus on the policies that need to be changed. it is time for them to focus on the fa ct we is time for them to focus on the fact we need to make putting the children back with families and putting them there quickly a priority. it will reduce the trauma and save american tax payers between one billion and $2 billion a year to be placed with families much more quickly. those with family members and potential family in the quickly. those with family members and potentialfamily in the us like you say, let them in. keep families together. most of the children we interviewed came across the border with adult family members, were separated from those family members at the border and then are placed in the squalid positions by themselves with no one to take care of them. they should be kept with their family member in the first place. if a child, for a reason that is

outside of a policy reason, that should never be a policy to separate children from family members unless the chance of being abused or severely neglected. in those cases, the children need to be taken into protective custody placed with anotherfamily protective custody placed with another family member as quickly as possible. these children are being taken away from family members, being reclassified as unaccompanied alien children or alien miners are being left in border patrol stations for weeks at a time and are being left in these facilities for months ata left in these facilities for months at a time. the entire process is meant to take 23 days. ideally it should only take a few days. we caught the parents and family members of these children, while we we re members of these children, while we were meeting with them in the facility, and a parents are ready to get on the plane that day. they were willing to send money down that day to get their child into their home where they could care for them. that is what needs to happen here and i'm

hoping that is what national leaders will start to focus on. thank you for your time. jennifer says on e—mail... iam for your time. jennifer says on e—mail... i am absolutely disgusted with the usa. the treatment of these innocent children is very frightening. the picture of oscar and valeria is heartbreaking. you are welcome to get in touch. as always, send an e—mail. you can message us on twitter as well. there's going to be a review of the laws covering image—based sexual abuse. that's things like revenge porn or someone sending you unsolicited sexual pictures, known as cyber flashing, or deepfake porn, where your face is photoshopped onto a pornographic video. as it stands, perpetrators can be prosecuted for cyber

flashing and deepfakes, but the laws are unspecific. and while there is a specific revenge porn law, introduced in 2015, victims are currently not entitled to anonymity like in other sexual offence cases. back then we spoke to lorraine crighton—smith who was commuting when she was sent an unsolcitied picture via air drop. got on the train, my usual journey to work, and i was holding my phone, sending a message. i had airdrop switched on. i had previously been using it to share photographs with another iphone. the picture appeared on the screen of a man's penis which i was quite shocked by. so i declined the image, instinctively, and another picture appeared, at which point i realised somebody nearby was sending them and that concerned me.

i felt quite violated. it is a very unpleasant thing to be forced upon my screen. i was worried then about who else could have been the recipient. it might have been a child. it could have been somebody more vulnerable than me. we can speak now to folami prehaye. she experience revenge porn, who now runs the website victims of internet crime. and to ariane sherine, a victim of cyber—flashing and deepfa ke pornography. and to alexandra whiston—dew, a lawyer at mischon de reya who specialises in reputation protection. welcome to the programme. thank you so much for coming on. what images did yourex so much for coming on. what images did your ex post and where did he post them? there were nine sexually explicit images he posted on facebook and to several pawn site, this was back in 2018. —— pornography sites. for six months i

was petrified. i did not want to come out of my house, i did not eat or care for myself. to this day i really do not know how we got through that time but we did. your ex was given a six—month suspended sentence for harassment and distributing indecent images. did any media cover the court case? local media did. when you are in that headspace and you want to get justice you do not think about the media. the media, yes, they printed full name, one of the photographs was viewed on the pornography site 48,000 times and they actually printed out. that caused extra stress for me as a victim. people are inquisitive anyway and they started to look on google for those

pictures. the law commission is looking at anonymity for those who have experienced revenge porn. do the rules need to change? it needs to change drastically because then victims can come forward and feel confident that they can speak out. it is bad enough having your images shared online publicly. 0n it is bad enough having your images shared online publicly. on top of that you have the local media, all media, any media, to then share that publicly. you then need to go to a court which is public. that in itself is quite distressing for the victims in order to speak out. it is something that should have been put into place ages ago, at the time. and it should actually have been looked at as a sexual crime, because thatis looked at as a sexual crime, because that is what it is. tell us what happened to you. i woke up one day,

picked up my phone, and i had a message to my facebook page. i opened it and it said, i have a surprise for you to unwrap. below it was a picture, it was actually a gif of and evacuating venus. i was shocked and felt violated. i thought, what if it had gone to my daughter. —— evacuating venus. i we nt daughter. —— evacuating venus. i went on twitter and tweeted about it. a lot of guys made fun of it and said it would never stand up in court. it made me feel worse that it was not being taken seriously. you have also experienced the deep fake pornography phenomenon. sign up when i was 21 years old i received an

e—mailfrom someone i was 21 years old i received an e—mail from someone 30 years older than me. —— e—mail from someone 30 years older than me. -- when i was 21 years old. i opened than me. -- when i was 21 years old. iopened up than me. -- when i was 21 years old. i opened up images of my face photoshopped on someone having in all pornography. a friend said that is terrible someone with desecrate this good pornography with your face. i want you to log it, i said that in case i go missing or he does it again to someone else. a few months later i got an e—mail saying, can we destroy the material? i thought, why could you do that? it is evidence. i thought but i want to have a career in music at the time andl have a career in music at the time and i do not to have photos of my face, superimposed onto hard core in all pornography. what do you say to

people when they say it is just a photo. it is just your head on a hard—core pornographic image. big deal. it is horrifying. if someone can be anti—social in cyberspace, i think it can cross over to real life and that terrifies me. talk us through the laws as they stand. and that terrifies me. talk us through the laws as they standlj think many people will understand there is a revenge pornography law which deals with the sharing of internet images with intent to cause distress. that was a big step for victims of these crimes. people like me who work with victims of those kind of crimes that was fantastic but there were issues with that

legislation which we have highlighted, anonymity being one. there are other laws which deal with these issues, other criminal laws and civil laws. adding specific laws that relate to these kind of trends and ways to deal in social media is something that is important for victims to be able to focus on how they can achieve justice. and prosecutors as well. are you saying there should be specific legislation for cyber flashing specifically? the way the law stands it does not fit what is required by the victim. when you look at the revenge pornography law, that provision is something thatis law, that provision is something that is lacking and there are changes which need to be made. other things are critical with changes to be made. when the justice minister

says they are acting to make sure laws keep pace with emerging technologies and trends, you say, absolutely, things had to change. that is right. anonymity for those who have experienced revenge porn seems to be a no—brainer. who have experienced revenge porn seems to be a no-brainer. when they considered it, they were looking at what the intention was for the perpetrator in distributing and uploading these images of films. there is a feeling it would be malice rather than a sexual motivation which meant it flattered that categorisation. ali, 26, in london. she says she had exactly the same thing happened to me at liverpool street station when i was sitting on a train waiting for it to leave. i was so scared and disgusted, i nearly dropped my phone. ifelt disgusted, i nearly dropped my phone. i felt scared to be sitting ona phone. i felt scared to be sitting on a with somebody on their he was

airdropping me indecent images and i still have not got over it. i do not think people realise the impact it can have. unless he had been through something, you actually do not understand how it feels to be in that position. i have spoken to a lot of victims because i support victims as well. it is quite heart wrenching when you hear the different stories. most of the stories are technically the same, we go through the same emotions. it is not good. the government needs to pay attention and listen to victims. things need to be victim led. you need to listen to what the victims are saying. those voices are really important. thank you for coming on

the programme. still to come... england take on france in the world cup. we will have a news conference shortly and we will be there live. and... singer sheryl crow tells the bbc that original recordings of some of her biggest hits including this one were destroyed in a huge fire at universal studios. a bbc investigation shows the notorious moors murderer, ian brady, was able to mix with vulnerable boys in wormwood scrubs prison. files just released from the home office also state that no action was taken against him despite one young prisoner alleging that brady had sex with him. brady was jailed in 1966 along with myra hindley. the pair were convicted of the torture, sexual assault

and murder of five children. ian brady was, for decades, one of britain's most notorious prisoners. with myra hindley, he had tortured and murdered five children, buried their bodies on saddleworth moor. both were sentenced to life in prison. brady stayed in the highest category for security. yet, while here in wormwood scrubs, brady was allowed to live in the prison hospitalfor more than five years, mixing with vulnerable teenagers, boys sent from borstal with mental health problems. according to government files just released, he said he'd go on hunger strike if moved. he was supported by lord longford, campaigner for prison reform. since you mentioned ian brady, he never expects to be released. i mean, he doesn't expect to be, so we can view his situation and he's been treated not at all well in prison as a matter of fact.

peter meekings was an assistant governor at wormwood scrubs when brady arrived. when lord longford came to visit he'd sometimes sit in and make a note for the file. what is quite striking is it starts off with lord longford apologising. yes, because he forgot to bring the cigarettes for brady and that really upset brady. and so that really set the tone of the meeting. the files show staff found brady unsettling. he is one of the few men to whom i would attach the label "evil" and i found that interesting because i can remember on one occasion when i was talking to him, i felt a shudder down my spine and i felt that i was in the presence of someone who was truly evil. it was a really spooky feeling. then, long after peter meekings had left, one young prisoner made a disturbing claim that brady had had sex with him. it's difficult to imagine how that would have happened actually, because he was closely supervised. i mean, there were always two officers on duty.

but then, brady was quite a cunning character. do you think it's quite shocking? yes, yeah, definitely. a few months after that, brady was moved. the files held here at the national archives show how, even from the early months in the prison hospital, ian brady displayed an unhealthy interest in adolescent inmates. over the years, concerns were raised, complaints made, but nothing was done. the authorities were worried that if ian brady complained and went on hunger strike, lord longford would step in again. it was an extraordinary set of circumstances particularly with the high—profile support that ian brady had. however, what happened and what he did in prison i think is not extraordinary. actually i think happens and has happened every day

for years in prisons and is still happening. the ministry ofjustice said there have been huge changes in the last 40 years, and that allegations of sexual assault are taken extremely seriously and reported to the police. let's speak now tojohn podmore, former prison governor of brixton and belmarsh and to lord falconer, labour peer and former lord chancellor and justice secretary. welcome, better view. welcome, betterview. first evolve, john, what do you make of this information? i think the important thing here is to look at what has changed in the last 40 years. we will definitely talk about that. i wonder if you could react first of all to what ian brady was able to do in jail. well, i think all to what ian brady was able to do injail. well, ithink what all to what ian brady was able to do in jail. well, i think what he was able to do was down to the staff of wormwood scrubs. a lot is said about lord longford. well, he spent years

visiting two or three prisoners a week. brady was cunning and minimally to and he could manipulate those around him. but what ian brady was able to get up to, if brady was and, let's be blunt about it, if brady was raping children in wormwood scrubs, that was down to the management of wormwood scrubs. do you agree with that, lord falconer? it is an appalling and disgusting story. 0ver falconer? it is an appalling and disgusting story. over a five or six year period, he was left with vulnerable teenagers in wormwood scrubs prison wing and he was plainly manipulating them and abusing them in a variety of ways. how did that happen? well, ian brady is an exceptional story. lord longford bosman involvement makes it a bit odd. my anxiety, though, is it is what happens in prisons, because ultimately you have quite a small numberof ultimately you have quite a small number of prison officers guarding a

very large numberof number of prison officers guarding a very large number of prisoners and it's about dominant, manipulative, evil characters being able very often to come to the surface, and you see it now getting worse and worse as a principle because you've got overcrowded prisons. you've also got overcrowded prisons. you've also got very inexperienced prison office rs got very inexperienced prison officers in many cases, and you've got strong characters. if you go to a prisonlike pentonville, ec all that's bad in some respects crammed into one place in overcrowded conditions, and inevitably it is the strong that come to the surface, and you see it in terms of, for example, radicalisation. you see it in terms of sexual manipulation. and you see it, above all, in gangs appearing and in people being bullied. right. at this point, and tell you what the ministry ofjustice say because they are absolutely pushing back on the idea that this is going on injails

now. there have been huge changes in the criminal justice now. there have been huge changes in the criminaljustice system in the last 40 years, and allegations of sexual assault are taken extremely seriously and reported to the police. eyes and rating are placed together in youth custody, but those aged between 18 and 21 are held either in young offender's institutions with their own age group or in designated cells or wings in the adult prison estate. and we are conducting a review into safeguarding the youth estate to further improve the welfare of those in ourcare. further improve the welfare of those in our care. i suspect that the precise circumstances of ian brady, a very evil child killer, being with people of 15 probably doesn't happen now. but the key point is you've got lots and lots of vulnerable, frightened youngish men with much older, more manipulative people. and the problem is not that the mod won't take seriously complaints of sexual assault — they will. it's that those complaints never get made

and that in a situation like overcrowded prisons and inexperienced prison officers, you're getting, like you see in so many institutions, prolonged, systematic sexual and other abuse and nothing being done about it. john podmore, is that accurate as far as you are concerned? it is absolutely right. it is very difficult to report rape and sexual assault in the community. in prison, it is immensely difficult. 0ne assault in the community. in prison, it is immensely difficult. one of the things we should bear in mind in terms of overcrowding, we have built a new prison. now 70% of those cells are shared cells with shared toilet. now, which two people go in that cell is done on something called a cell is done on something called a cell sharing risk assessment. the information available to staff is not that much. they may have been in prison a while. they may have just come in. but we are forcing people to share very small cells and that

is contrary to the enquiry into the death of the man who was murdered by his races cell—mate. so part of the problem here, and there is some complacency here by the mod, we don't know that mike avidly conducted an enquiry a few years ago into sexual violence in prison and the prison service didn't cooperate. now, in the states in 2003 they had something called the prison rape elimination act and that was a bipartisan bill signed by george bush and that acknowledged that there was a problem and not give a commitment to actually survey prisoners and find outjust how much rape and sexual violence was going on, and some of the figures in the states as much as 10% of prisoners. so we don't know what's going on in our prisons and we really need to find out because he potential. should sell sharing be stopped? find out because he potential. should sell sharing be stopped7m my opinion, yes. it is they are

within the rules. the national standards for the treatment of prisoners. we had a public enquiry into the racist murder of a young prisoner in feltham many years ago, and the recommendation was that we should stop enforced cell sharing. we are doing it now because it is cheap. we are locking up to many people and we are locking them up in as cheap possible way as we can and berwin is an example of that. it is supposed to be a flagship prison, 2100 prisoners, but if 70% of those are forced into sharing cells against the recommendations of the public enquiry, then we have got to say to the mod, are you taking this problem seriously? i don't think they are. would you agree with that? i would completely agree with that. i think the significance of this incredible story that the bbc have uncovered is that although it is ian brady and therefore it is possible to say obviously everything about ian brady is exceptional, it indicates the tolerance of appalling this in the prison service and if

you asked me, it would probably be worse in 2019 than it would be in 1979 when this was happening because in 1979 there was, i think, less than half the prison population. there wasn't the overcrowding. and there was so much more experienced prison officers. we are accepting as normal in this country really appalling, unacceptable prison populations — prison conditions. and whatjohn podmore populations — prison conditions. and what john podmore has populations — prison conditions. and whatjohn podmore has said is completely correct. we are switching from having conditions that are completely unacceptable as being accepted as normal and the new prison that he referred to is a very, very good example of that.|j wa nt very, very good example of that.” wa nt to very, very good example of that.” want to come back to ian brady, finally, with you, lord falconer. we talked about the support he had from lord longford, a former labour cabinet minister. i'm not making a political point. i am interested in

your view. do think it ian brady was able to many places of governors in the jails that he was in that he also manipulated lord longford? completely. it is appalling to read the story. longford comes in season and shouted at by ian brady for not producing cigarettes come a point to your film. longford then speaks to the home secretary royjenkins, and royjenkins gives the home secretary royjenkins, and roy jenkins gives instructions the home secretary royjenkins, and royjenkins gives instructions in relation to what is to happen in the prison. it is awful. it indicates notjust that prison. it is awful. it indicates not just that ian prison. it is awful. it indicates notjust that ian brady is prison. it is awful. it indicates not just that ian brady is a very manipulative man, he obviously was, but the extent to what goes on in prison is manipulated by a few strong inmates in prisons. and keepers. thank you very much. thank you for your time. tomorrow england face their biggest test of the women's world cup so far when they take on norway so far, they have a perfect record — winning all four of their games —

including that bad—tempered match against cameroon on sunday, and they go into the game as favourites. england manager phil neville and goalkeeper karen bardlsey are holding a news conference. let's listen in. she is public more of a doubt than steph, so we will give it to the last minute for them to be fit. can you expand on what kind of virus?m isa simple you expand on what kind of virus?m is a simple virus, i think. sickness, i suppose. is a simple virus, i think. sickness, isuppose. it is a simple virus, i think. sickness, i suppose. it isjust is a simple virus, i think. sickness, i suppose. it is just a simple virus she has picked up in the last couple of days. and she is in her room just recovering at this moment in time. a question for karen, please as well. karen, given the rule change and some of the decisions that i'm sure you have seen, have you adjusted your training in anyway? no. not really. i think we are all very much aware of what's happened in the previous games and aware that we can truly

move forward of goal—line and so we've not really changed anything. we're just kind of aware of the rules sojust practising like normal, really. next question, right in the middle. black shirt. a long wait for a microphone. you come from very different backgrounds. is it possible for you, karen can start, to put into words how it feels to be pa rt to put into words how it feels to be part of what is a revolution of female football in england? that is a nice way to put it, i think. it's... i would certainly say a renaissance time for women's foot ball renaissance time for women's football in england. it has been an

absolute pleasure to be a part of it from... obviously, not from the beginning beginning, but to see it grow in the way that it has it has from a time when we kind of struggled to get teams in competitions and full—time players, you know. and to see it develop in the way that we have got massive clubs on board. we are all full—time professionals. and the football that we play is really entertaining and it is good football, so to see a kind of developing that sense, the players are all much more physical, much more fit, tactically more astute and technically much better. so it's been a massive pleasure to bea so it's been a massive pleasure to be a part of. and you can watch that game tomorrow night on bbc one at 7:30pm. tomorrow on the programme:

the two politicians battling out to be leader of the liberal democrats will be here for a special edition of the programme with a studio audience asking questions. we want to know what you want to ask ed davey and jo swinson too and what would make you vote for either of them. let us know — you can get in touch in all the ways on the screen — send us an email or a text or tweet us. next, a really shocking story about western paedophiles who are paying mums and dads in the phillipines to sexually exploit their own children. this programme has exclusively been told that around two—thirds of youngsters in the philippines who fall victim to online sexual abuse are being exploited by their own parents and close relatives. half of all child victims there are under 12 years old, with some as young as six months. mike thomson has this exclusive report. if you have children around, you may not want them to watch his film, which lasts around 8 minutes.

reports of suspected online child sex abuse across the world have soared from just over 100,000 five years ago to more than 18 million last year. and the philippines is at the epicentre of this sickening global industry, with one leading anti—trafficking and child abuse organisation telling this programme that around two thirds of child cybersex victims in the philippines were abused by their own parents or a close relative. the scale of the abuse is causing alarm at senior levels of government here. one of those things that really shocked me was a map of the philippines where they put the light at every part of the map where online sexual exploitation happens and that map lit up like a christmas tree. in all those little spaces in the philippines it was there. i'm afraid what the social cost will be, having all these wounded children.

it's all fuelled by perpetrators in richer western countries who pay filipino people to sexually abuse local children to order. some pay thousands. others as little as £5—£15. about the price of a pizza. they then watch the often live streamed results from the comfort of their own homes. an australian man was recently jailed here for directing a video which began with a filipino child being made to dig a shallow grave. she was raped, she was beaten up and then the men halfway around the world would say, "i want to hear bones breaking" and he would break bones. and "i want to see her upside down." this child is 12 and then she died and then she was buried there. here in central manila, war has been declared on the online sexual abuse of children. and it's happening here at the newly—established philippines internet crimes

against children centre. british and australian police help provide funding, training and tip—offs for filipino officers at this new centre. they work in partnership with the anti—trafficking and anti—child abuse organisation internationaljustice mission, who say that around two thirds of children are sexually abused by their own parents or another relative. some are as young as just a few months old. we are seeing really young children being abused in online sexual exploitation. in fact, about 50% are actually 12 years and younger and even we've rescued a child who was six months old, and so we are actually talking here of infants, toddlers, preteens or prepubescent children, being abused online. jonah, who is now in her late teens, had felt quite safe when invited to stay at the home of a friend.

after all, the girl's mother was there to look after them both. translation: so one time my friend and i took a shower together and we were dressing inside her room and my friend's mother was also in the room with us and initially we thought she was just surfing the web on facebook and then i heard the sounds of a cell phone and the sounds of a camera. i started feeling uncomfortable. my friend asked her, "why are you taking a photo?" and her mother replied with, "oh, it's nothing. i'm just taking your photo." i only found out about the photos at the time of my rescue, when the police were telling me that those photos were being sent to customers online in other countries.

filipino police prepared to raid a home on the island of mindanao, south of manila. i'm given exclusive access to this operation. it follows a tip—off from the fbi after the suspect was found to have links with an american man who's been convicted of child sex abuse offences in the philippines. i'm travelling in a six—car police convoy through the town of santo thomas, which is around about two hours' drive south—east of davao city. the team's aim here is to rescue seven children, some as young as 13. as darkness falls, police prepare to raid the house where it's thought the abuse is taking place. it's thought that the suspected abusers may be armed or otherwise physically violent, so the police have told me to wait here and keep well away from the scene until they are sure it's ok to go in.

a 16—year—old girl is led away by social workers and a 27—year—old woman is arrested by police on suspicion of sexually exploiting her over a long period. the next day, three more children, all aged 14, found in the house, are also taken into care. nobody knows just how many children are being sexually abused online in the philippines to meet demand from western paedophiles. but those who are convicted here face life terms in jail, like this woman charged with selling indecent images of children to a foreigner. translation: all he wanted to get from me is that i pass videos to him of children having sex.

the woman told me that because she didn't make the videos she had sold, her conscience was clear. if videos were made of your children of this kind and somebody else sold these on, what would you say to that person? despite what she says, i later learned that this mother—of—three has also been charged with taking and passing on indecent images of her own children. all 12 children in this shelter are here because they've been sexually abused online. some are just eight months old. they are having nightmares at night. sometimes they are shouting

in the middle of the night. it's like... they were dreaming of what they have experienced in the past, of their previous abuse. efforts are being stepped up to fight what is clearly an escalating global as well as filipino problem. in britain alone, 140,000 people are considered a threat to children at home and abroad. and an average of 400 suspects are arrested each month. here in the philippines, the fight continues to stop thousands of families selling their children into the sex trade each year. and so does the struggle to understand how this could happen.

now, sheryl crow has been speaking for the first time since she heard that the original recordings of her biggest hit albums have been destroyed. her mastertapes were kept in a vault in los angeles which went up in flames 11 years ago, but the extent of the damage here's one of her biggest hits. #ifit # if it makes you happy # if it makes you happy #it # if it makes you happy # it can't be that bad # it can't be that bad #ifit # it can't be that bad # if it makes you happy # if it makes you happy # then why the hell are you so sad? . # our music reporter mark savage is here. first of all, explain what he master tape is. it is the original recording of a song. it separates out the drums, guitar, the vocals. it is the reference record label will go back to anytime they make new copies of cds, box sets and

vinyl. so it is crucial? it is absolutely crucial. this was 11 yea rs absolutely crucial. this was 11 years ago, so why has it taken this length of time for people to realise the extent of the damage. when the fire happened, this was on the universal studios backlot in hollywood, and it was big news at the time. most people are concentrating on the fact that the set for back to the future had burned down. there was a little mention of a warehouse that had gone up mention of a warehouse that had gone up inflames. mention of a warehouse that had gone up in flames. at the time, universal said itjust had to put its copies of tv shows and things they already had elsewhere in other warehouses around america. it was the result of around america. it was the result of a five year investigation by the new york times that came out to go that said actually there were up to half a million original sound recordings in that warehouse that have now been lost, perhaps forever. right. and that might read that report and try to find out what had happened to her master tapes and she discovered that everything she had recorded from the 40,008 was gone.

it absolutely grieves me. i don't understand how you could store anything ina understand how you could store anything in a vault that didn't have sprinklers. and secondly i can understand how you could make safeties and have them in the same vault. i mean, what is the point? and thirdly, i can understand how it could have been 11 years since any of this was found out. i don't understand the cover—up. but i think what annoys me more than anything than that is the fact that buddy holly and billie holiday and duke ellington, i mean, all this important music has been erased. and it's not just important music has been erased. and it's notjust the music. it's a dialogue between the music. it's the ta kes dialogue between the music. it's the takes that didn't make it. it's the versions of songs that will never hear now. it's not even just the versions of the songs, its songs will never here. there are many songs on my masters that haven't come out. but my peace of mind of knowing that they were on those

matters, so i could come back someday and listen to them and mine those for basement tapes, outtakes are gone. it feels a little apocalyptic, not to go down the weird... weird path. but it does. it feels like we are slowly erasing things that really matter. 0ur environment. we are starting to erase things without the love and ca re erase things without the love and care and a feeling of being horrified that we should have. when she describes it like that, you realise how absolutely personally devastating it is. she mentioned billie holiday. who else has been affected ? billie holiday. who else has been affected? the billie holiday. who else has been affected ? the new billie holiday. who else has been affected? the new york times has a master list that lists the recordings that were held in that vault and it is pretty much all of our musical history. it is fats

domino, billie holiday, ella fitzgerald, original recordings by aretha franklin, eltonjohn, tom petty, although we up to the modern day, nirvana, eminem, pussycat dolls, snoop dog. it is huge swathes of material, some of which we think is gone forever. what happens next, then? a couple of musicians have already taken universal action against universal in the states. they filed a suit last week. this was the estate of tom petty and tupac suker and was the estate of tom petty and tu pac suker and courtney was the estate of tom petty and tupac suker and courtney love and others. it is a class—action suit so they are hoping that other people willjoin in and they are seeking up to £80 million in damages. they are saying universal is in breach of its contract saying universal is in breach of its co ntra ct by saying universal is in breach of its contract by not taking proper care of their tapes and they want a share of their tapes and they want a share of their tapes and they want a share of the settlement that it got when it sued for insurance on the warehouse. thank you very much. thank you for your many comments on the migrant crisis in the state of one particular centre on the texas

border. we were talking to a children's human rights lawyer who visited this place where she said that children were being kept in horrific conditions. jane from south wales says this story is shocking and totally heartbreaking. i am currently looking after my two—year—old grandson and the thought of him being frightened and alone away from his loving family in filthy and squalid conditions is impossible to imagine or bear. shame on the usa, the wealthiest country in the world. shame on the world for allowing it to happen. please don't let these children suffer needlessly. diana says i'm mexican and have a large family in mexico and have a large family in mexico andi and have a large family in mexico and i would rather work as a cleaner ina and i would rather work as a cleaner in a hotel or wash dishes in a restau ra nt tha n ta ke in a hotel or wash dishes in a restaurant than take kids across that dangerous border. steve says every country has a right to operate border and no one has a right to enter any other country just because they want to. glynn tweets the president has total disregard for immigrant children. the un should now get involved. this is about the

violation of the human rights. mark says why on earth would you put your own children in this peril? is mexico such a bad place for these people to try and get out? it is tragic. he would have to be extremely ha rd—hea rted not tragic. he would have to be extremely hard—hearted not to feel sorry for them but i want to know what they are escaping from. tomorrow on the programme: the two politicians battling out to be leader of the liberal democrats will be here for a special edition of the programme — with a studio audience asking questions. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. hi, there. good morning. it has been a misty start but it will brighten up a misty start but it will brighten upfor a misty start but it will brighten up for some of us this afternoon. central areas into scotland, southern scotland at least, it will

stay rather cloudy. the best of the brightness developing across east anglia, the south—east of england, south—west england and wales. increasing sunshine across northern ireland and the far north of scotla nd ireland and the far north of scotland having a bit more cloud moving in. maximum temperatures getting into the high teens and low 20s. getting into the high teens and low 205. it getting into the high teens and low 20s. it will feel pretty warm, particularly where you have that sunshine. throughout this evening and overnight, we will continue with cloud for central and eastern areas of england. elsewhere, clearskies. feeling fresher across northern areas compared to the last few nights. certainly a bit more co mforta ble nights. certainly a bit more comfortable for sleeping in the south. 13 celsius. at thursday, many more of us seeing the sunshine. it is going to be a lovely, sunny day for most. temperatures on the rise so most whites getting up into the low to the mid—20s. goodbye.

you're watching bbc newsroom live — it's 11 am and these are the main stories this morning: the bbc discovers that moors murderer ian brady was allowed to mix with vulnerable young prisoners for more than five years, even after one claimed that brady had had sex with him. what happened and what he did in prisons, i think, is not extraordinary. actually i think happens and has happened every day for years. a multi billion dollar aid package for migrant families detained after entering the us is partially approved — as a harrowing photo of a father and daughter, drowned in the rio grande, emerges. the two rivals for the conservative leadership continue to clash over whether the uk should comit to leaving the eu on october the 31st.