is about headline initiatives. the same was true of osaka. but much of the world was holding its breath for a breakthrough on the trade war between the us and china. so, are the big two now back on track as president trump has claimed? join, use start us off. it is very difficult to read into the sorts of state m e nts difficult to read into the sorts of statements by president trump, he has made them before, they have proven to fall short. it seems to me that resolving the trade imbalance between the us and china will take more than a friendly meeting with xi jinping. wheni more than a friendly meeting with xi jinping. when i lived in china last, nearly 30 years ago, the total trade between china and the us, both ways,

was less then i billion. between china and the us, both ways, was less theni billion. now, the deficit on the us side is something in excess of 300 million, and mounting. —— was less than one million. that will take a long time. it is only one aspect of and increasingly complex relationship as china assumes the role of a superpower, and as at the us becomes ever more contradictory. so you think a lull rather than peace in oui’ think a lull rather than peace in ourtime? think a lull rather than peace in our time? i do. he also seems to say something obliging about huawei, suggesting that us companies can, at least in a limited reversal or qualification of his ban last month, led us companies can trade and deal with huawei. do you think there is

something behind this, other than listening to allies, they have obviously been saying stop the protectionism, we have got to get on with this, we have an economy in crisis? he does not listen to allies, as a set off to osaka, she systematically offended every single one of them, he was personally read about india, germany, about japan. it was extraordinary as he went through the list offending everybody. the only reason he is about making some peace over china is that his advisers are telling him that the economy in america has been booming due to his tax cuts for the rich but that is now flagging. actually, the whole global economy is put in peril by the street war that trump has begun, as you say, there are imbalances and problems and china probably doesn't play fair. never he has an election

coming up, this is all about trump getting his economy back on track and he is discovering that having a fight with china does not miraculously opened up all those factories in the rust belt that he promised. it doesn't work like that,. globalism, better orworse, is here to stay. peace is for the election. after the election, if he wins it, i didn't know. but i don't think we will see anymore china fiction until after the election? marc, is that also your analysis? yes, i think there will be an informal agreement between us and china on the trade. there will be a reform of the wto, that needs a reform. . despite this climate of trade wars, the us and europe has just signed a right agreement, now

tariffs in the market of 790 million people. the us alsojust signed, before jennifer, with japan. so trade continues. as a comparison, i don't want to go anti—brexit, i promise you! but i will say that britain, as comparison, hasjust signed with the faroe islands. are you having a little dig there? yes, cheap whale oil for lamps! it is true that we are so obsessed with trump and china that we actually forget that what has happened between the eu is a an extraordinary

achievement my 20 years in the making, it will create an almost 800 million single market, it will be just tariffs, it will boost exports and collaboration. —— it will boost tariffs. this is a sign that things are happening and we should pay attention to them because those are the signs that bring us forward. when the eu moves together in a kind ofa when the eu moves together in a kind of a united front, it achieves things which achieves the entire world and reinstates international rules —based order, which is what trump is trying to demolish. i think it is very important to pay attention, we know that putin says liberalism is the way... taking lisinoprilfrom the liberalism is the way... taking lisinopril from the both of you, we won't talk about trump tweeting, ——

taking this proof. let's talk about putin on liberalism, a huge tweaking of the west's tale. what do you think of that? it is externality, you have to give it to putin that he was the master, the art of twisting things and making it information. his interview was a masterpiece of disinformation. he was talking nonsense, first of all, liberal values are outdated, which is not true. the fundamental philosophical philosophy it still is. he was also collating it with letting migrants come in and rain people and the rights of lg bt come in and rain people and the rights of lgbt people. he was making a completely false association,. yet, you pay tribute to his smarts

in doing so. so how does he manage to spend that, in your view, what is clever about it? he uses the wea kness clever about it? he uses the weakness of the west to make himself stronger. what the problem is us in the west who are just complacent and we are not taking up what is a fundamental historic battle against oui’ fundamental historic battle against our foundational values. what i find if not a in the interview is that the interviewers did not ask him the right questions, they didn't push him. it is as you say, this complacency in the world. if europe was “— complacency in the world. if europe was —— if liberalism wasn't so bad, why do refugees from all of the world want to come to europe? but we will come to that when we deal with migration. a poly? i think that one thing that he said is right. i think classic liberalism, which modern

civilisation has been built on, is under serious threat. under threat from him, from a far more authoritarian chinese president xi jinping, from top and may be at the american withdrawal from some of these fundamental intervals. europe remains the kind of cradle —— the bastian of this kind of liberalism, but it is a weak one. around its edges, poland, hungary, italy, it is fraying. the belief of international human rights, in the freedom of speech, all the basic freedoms— we have to hold onto those. we have to say, that is what europe represents. it isa say, that is what europe represents. it is a tragedy that britain is with jong helping to weaken that whole idea. we are not talking about brexit! thank you for reminding us.

just as an example in this front line of this ideological war that you're talking about, we saw president putin sitting down with it trump and they were asked about the mueller report and election meddling and before them smiled and president trump seem to be joking about that and about fake news and journalist who should be throwing out. it is like this issue of liberalism, if you have the leader of the free world who doesn't seem to be singing from the hymn sheet, what can you do? it is a very distressing moment. ifi do? it is a very distressing moment. if i may comment on putin's remarks about liberalism. ifind if i may comment on putin's remarks about liberalism. i find it frightening, his arrogance, the smugness with which he speaks, as in the battle he has been engaged in for nearly 20 years with the west has fallen decisively in his favour. it strikes me, it raises the risk of

miscalculation. he has already broken the basic rules of international behaviour is established after the second world war ina established after the second world war in a number of ways. one of which waits mrs may highlighted, the salisbury poisonings. it strikes me what, particularly what he might do nextin what, particularly what he might do next in the baltic states, what this arrogance. . . next in the baltic states, what this arrogance... for the last 40 years, there has not been one year when the russians have not been at war, ukraine, georgia, syria, afghanistan. on that, theresa may did take him on over these values, didn't she? she looked to me like she had a bad time and she wouldn't expect her to be in a peak of health but she looked like she would rather

be anywhere else in the world rather in that room with putin. but she also washed up and said, despicable a cts also washed up and said, despicable acts in salisbury, the use of nerve agents. when we were talking to of air, we could refer to if not discussed at large the issue of brexit. i am not censoring it, i just want to be clear to the audience, i have not since it does. ijust said that i think that audience, i have not since it does. i just said that i think that the audience needs a break!|j i just said that i think that the audience needs a break! i couldn't agree with you more but i must say, one of the things that has been distressing about the tory leadership campaign and the debate they had, was that there was virtually no mention of any other issue as if brexit is the only issue that confronts this nation. i think mrs may, who got his nose has been at the sharp end of all this, has some concept there are issues. there i say, even greater issues that need

to be addressed. from the two or three weeks that are left, i would be very happy if mrjohnson or mr hunt will address these issues. be very happy if mrjohnson or mr hunt will address these issueslj hunt will address these issues.” think some of them are coming up on the hustings, to be fair. we will not go on the debate today, we'll get the chance to go back on it. you will be allowed to come back. now, we will turn to a global issue, one that concerns all of us. oscar and valeria ramirez — a young father and his 23—month—old daughter who drowned in the rio grande river as they tried to make it from poverty in el salvador to the united states. and, in the same week as the harrowing photograph of their washed—up bodies, eyewitness reports of many young children separated from their parents and kept in degrading and inhumane detention camps on the american border. immigration is a bitterly partisan issue in us politics, but the migration crisis is by no

meansjust a us problem. annalisa, i want to come to you on this first because you spent years making a film about migration in europe. this is a global problem, why do we seem to get in our regional or national 20s about it? you are right. it is a... list by saying, this is not a crisis, this isa saying, this is not a crisis, this is a global phenomenon, and it will increase massively in the next decade. the un has estimated that there are 70 million people on the mail around the world. this is not about migrants from africa or mexico, this is a world phenomenon and every person in 0tley world is challenged by it. so the error and

tragedy of us liberals, people who think that humanity is a value, is to lose the battle to the populists. we have lost the battle because we have not been able to make the case for a rational approach to what is a worldwide phenomenon. we have lost the battle to the populace to keep saying that this is all about locking invaders out, and that is what has been happening in mexico, what has been happening in mexico, what is happening today in europe. where in italy we have the atrocity of eight national european state thatis of eight national european state that is locking the doors to refugees that are risking drowning at sea. there was a boat that was left in the middle of the sea for 40 days, the captain was arrested yesterday for breaking the blockade. it isa yesterday for breaking the blockade. it is a huge, huge issue and i think

that we are failing miserably to actually get a proper explanation because there are solutions. marc, you agree with annalisa? completely. but i think, in europe, this refugee crisis is coming at a time with difficulties, with the digital revolution causing people to lose their jobs. revolution causing people to lose theirjobs. it revolution causing people to lose their jobs. it can revolution causing people to lose theirjobs. it can be very hard for working class and lower middle class people who feel threatened in their jobs by refugees, even if it is purely an invention. i think the only solution is that developing aid to help countries where refugees are coming from, to stop them fleeing. an example, we go back to the us, instead of doing all these detention centres — help the el salvador

government to fight the drug gangs, and then you will have less el salvador the end is coming to the us. this relates back to what we we re us. this relates back to what we were saying about putin and liberalism because the issue of migration was something he used to make its case. he said that germany had made mistakes and president trump had been right to keep them out of the us. yes, he said multiculturalism was dead. his ideas, about the way he treats his minorities, the way the chinese treat their minorities just becomes apartheid. you have a shrinking sense of what your identity is, to keep everybody out, lock them up. as mark says, it is rather like climate change, this is a global problem thatis change, this is a global problem that is to be dealt with globally. more and more people with move,

because of climate as well. on the whole people do not move for the finer economic reasons, the only way for when things are terrible, mosley was, sometimes famine, sometimes gangs like in el salvador, which is absolutely terrifying. so there are good reasons and allows good reasons could be dealt with the world was right. the other thing is that it has not europe that is vetting itself, it is countries on the edge of africa and other places who take of africa and other places who take of those refugees in. we protest, but we are rich, it is those poorest countries facing the biggest problems with huge refugee camps. john, why have we failed them to a malty ale lateral solution to a global problem? i think because it has a huge problem. ifed much of my

yea rs has a huge problem. ifed much of my years travelling the earth, much of it in at the poorer and more oppressed regions of the world, not having realised that this was a predominant issue as it should have been visible to people like me 20—30 yea rs been visible to people like me 20—30 years ago. i think what happened was that they way we became suddenly visually accessible, through satellites and television and other means, to people who are not prepared for their children? or grandchildren's generation to enjoy some of this well. it's not really wealth building. it is utter desperation pushing. it is was at acute famine. —— wealth to filling. i think there are a number of people who fall into that category. but to deal with out it will be if an

ordinary difficult because it will be, not net migration of 200,000 a year, we are talking about! million -2 year, we are talking about! million — 2 million a year if we are going to make the target you are talking about. i do think there is is very likely lad will be politically feasible. —— i don't think that it will be politically feasible. germany did very well. i think there was some tension in at the eastern pa rt was some tension in at the eastern part but more than more than! million people were integrated. it shifted the politics of germany. it isa shifted the politics of germany. it is a moral example to follow. as a one—time shot, it germany is about it, but if it became the case of more than a year, it could be a problem. look at france and italy,

at the frontier. everybody in europe are terrorised about the effects of populism. if you had a partition of refugees, that would have worked. at the same time, a policy of collaboration. europe's attempts to have what you call a repetition have failed. when you look out of the countries in europe that have actually managed to bring the population into accepting huge numbers of migrants, that's when things have been explained to people. take sweden, they did have a growth in extreme right parties... sweden has not done terribly well. now, you will have a backlash. but actually there are humanitarian and humanitarian reasons, if you tell

people that. today, in britain, farmers are crying for help because they cannot get for typically crops because of the brexit backlash against foreigners. so you need to make a case for migration. annalisa, it won't be the answer. you cannot have 1-2,000,000 it won't be the answer. you cannot have i—2,000,000 are driving in each country. in the end, it has to be stopping the causes of the migration. people don't like leaving their own countries. it was to be all these things, that is not one magic wand. that is what the eu had been trying to do. but they have to increase development aid, everywhere it is reducing. not here. you are right but you're no longer in the eu. getting money has not worked in

the past. these are all things the eu doing together. europe as a whole has really been breaking new ground. i wanted to go back to the us where we started this topic. we heard from voting, we hear from we started this topic. we heard from voting, we hearfrom trump on immigration issues — do you think his town will play well in the election battle of 2020? or do you think his voters are outraged by children suffering? i think the 2020 election will be deeply divisive and bitter. there will be many people in the united states, it may be many of the united states, it may be many of the people who voted for him last time when he promised to build a wall, who feel deeply uncomfortable

about the undocumented migration in the us, which again is reaching record levels, 144,000 in a month for march and april. heading for over1 million people this year. that will not be politically sustainable. what about the democratic opposition? have you heard dramatically the kind of case that annalisa is talking about? the long education type case for doing something different? not really, i think it will be difficult to do so. they will make more liberal model about it but i don't fit will be able to make a case, i think that is very toxic and difficult. especially ata time very toxic and difficult. especially at a time when the economy is showing signs of going badly. dealing with the causes of this migration source is impossibly expensive. we taxpayers pay £15

billion a year into the aid budget, we would be talking about that proportionally and much more, in the yea rs proportionally and much more, in the years ahead, if we want to make any change whatsoever. what are we going to spend our money on it at the end? are we all going to die due to the climate emergency? in at the end, we will have to pay a lot of money and have a lower standard of living to solve these global problems or we will be overwhelmed by them. there really is no choice. i do hope we can move beyond brexit and start to have a responsible, public debate about these issues because they are crowding in on us at a terrific speed now. the thing about that is that they'd need multilateral solutions. would president trump be the people to lead on multilateral solutions? unlikely, but it might be

necessary for him to change because he will face the consequences of his brilliant unilateralism and may be forced a change. i will have to leave it there. that is your word, bullying. we will hopefully come back to that issue of migration before too long. that's it for dateline london for this week — we're back next week at the same time. goodbye. hello. rising heat and humidity are the main features of the weather today across many parts of the uk, particularly for england and wales, not quite as hot for scotland and northern ireland as yesterday. this is the picture taken earlier this morning in west sussex,

beautiful blue skies there, looking across the english channel. today could see temperatures as high as 34 celsius under the blue skies, and with all that sunshine, the hottest place towards the london region today. yesterday we had temperatures of 30 celsius across scotland, it won't be quite as warm today. we have some heavy, thundery showers pushing across parts of northern ireland and south—west scotland, in particular, one or two of them into the north west of england too. further south, across england and wales, we are looking at a dry day, with southerly breezes developing, top temperatures will be about 33—34dc. quite widely in the low 30s for england and wales, typically the mid 20s for scotland and northern ireland. into the evening, a fine one for many across central and eastern parts of england but some heavy showers for northern england and scotland. heavy showers and thunderstorms push their way out to the east through tonight, with something fresher following on from their west so not quite as hot and muggy as it was last night across the north—west of the uk, overnight low of 16—17

towards the south—east. it could still be quite a humid start to the day on sunday, but in general, sunday will feel different to today, a much fresher day to come with a mixture of sunny spells and a few showers. the heat with us, and across france today, will be pushed further east into europe so it will be germany and poland that will feel the brunt of that extensive heatwave through the course of tomorrow. for us, it will be a fresh feel to the day, a mix of sunshine and showers, most of the showers in the north—west, initially for northern ireland and western scotland. a few of them getting into parts of northern england and north wales by the afternoon. the southern half of england and wales should stay dry through the day, with temperatures up to 25 celsius in the warmest spots, most of us getting high teens or low 20s on a sunday, still above average for the time of year. as we look ahead, sunday night into monday, we have got high—pressure out toward the south—west, low pressure sitting towards the east, that combination means a little more of a north—westerly influence to our weather into the new working week.

so it's still a largely dry, a bit of sunshine here and there for monday and tuesday, those temperatures return to something more typical for the time of year. bye— bye.

good afternoon. president trump says us technology companies can resume selling their products to the chinese telecom firm huawei. the move is seen as a major concession to china and us businesses, which opposed the ban when it was introduced in may. mr trump announced the new policy at a news conference following a meeting with the chinese president,