tv The Week in Parliament BBC News June 30, 2019 2:30pm-3:01pm BST
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it is overhead. sunday strong when it is overhead. sunday night into tuesday, high—pressure falls in, temperatures in single figures on tuesday morning with lots of sunshine to begin with. you are showers then we will see today or tomorrow but the club will break up and it will be a bright afternoon with sunny spells. like monday, 16 to 21. a bit warmer because the wind will be lighter. a bit warmer still in the southern areas. we could still see some rain in northern scotland. hello this is bbc news with maxine croxall. the headlines: donald trump says it's a "great day for the world" after his walk across the border between north and south korea this morning. police name the woman stabbed to death in her home while eight months pregnant. two men have now been arrested. jeremy hunt brands the question over the uk's departure date
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from the eu a "fake debate" claiming he would deliver brexit sooner than boris johnson. the shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell conceded he's frustrated by labour's lack of progress on its brexit position while the head of the unite union asks thatjeremy corbyn is given more time. now on bbc news, the week in parliament. hello, and welcome to the week in parliament. politicians may have been getting on with the business at hand, but there's definitely been an elephant in the chamber — the conservative leadership contest. scarcely a debate went by without some reference. for example, argy bargy when this prime ministerfaced questions about the next one. will she finally act in the best interest of these islands,
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not the conservative party, and admit that neither of the candidates for office should ever be elected prime minister? but she's wasn't having any of that. either of the candidates for this high office would do a darn sight betterjob than anybody sitting on any of those benches. we'll be discussing how prime minister's questions might look under the new prime minister. reminds me of the tale of the sort of rather extravagant eccentric young army recruit who is told by his commanding officer the men will follow you if only out of morbid curiosity to see what's going to happen. but first, prime minister's questions doesn't seem to be quite the event it used to be. mps no longer have to squish up on the green benches, overflowing into the aisles. nowadays, it seems many just don't turn up. neither of the two conservative leadership contenders were there on wednesday, for instance. but that doesn't mean there's no room for some old—fashioned uproar. and this week, it came in response to questions from the snp‘s leader at westminster. ian blackford has form.
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last week, he characterised the tory leadership hopeful borisjohnson as racist. he took up where he'd left off. on the one hand, the tories are asking people to put their faith in the most incompetent foreign secretary in a century, a man who has made a career out of lying, who has spent his week avoiding the media, staging photos and playing to the extreme delusions of the tories. conservative mps were shouting "withdraw". they were outraged that ian blackford had accused borisjohnson of lying, language you're not allowed to use in the commons because it's "unparliamentary". mr speaker, the conservatives clearly don't like the truth. eventually, the speaker called for order. was he going to make ian blackford withdraw the remark? i think the right honourable gentleman's concluded his inquiry. no! john bercow merely wanted him to get on with it! the house calmed down a little. in her last days in office,
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will she finally act in the best interest of these islands, not the conservative party, and admit that neither of the candidates for office should ever be elected prime minister? can i say to the right honourable gentleman either of the candidates for this high office would do a darn sight betterjob than anybody sitting on any of those benches? well, after the session, a conservative mp pressed the speaker on whether ian blackford should've been allowed to get away with what he said. i'm always troubled when i hear any allegation of bad faith in this chamber. and today, we've heard an allegation of an honourable member having made, i think, a career out of lying. would you guide me, please, on whether it is in order for an honourable members to accuse others of lying? ididn't hearany allegation of dishonesty. i didn't hear that. if there was an allegation of dishonesty, i didn't hear it. and if he didn't hear it, he couldn't rule on it, john bercow said. there was less commotion
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during the exchanges between theresa may and the labour leader, jeremy corbyn. mr corbyn had chosen to use his questions to ask about arms exports to saudi arabia. last week, the court of appeal ordered the government to review the way it grants export licences to the kingdom. ministers are legally obliged to assess allegations of serious human rights violations before letting sales go ahead. in the case of saudi arabia's war in yemen, the judges said the government had "made no attempt to do so". jeremy corbyn criticised the sale of arms to the saudis. the uk has supplied them with over £45 billion worth of deadly weapons. uk weapons which have been used in indiscriminate attacks on civilians in which over 200,000 people have been killed. and hundreds of thousands more stand on the brink of famine, of starvation and of death from wholly preventable diseases.
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surely, mr speaker, the court of appeal... the court of appealjudgment should be a wake—up call to the prime minister and the government. so, instead of appealing the judgment, why not accept the judgment and stop arms sales to saudi arabia now and bring about peace in the yemen and save those lives? theresa may said she was trying to bring about peace. also, the right honourable gentleman is talking about the relations we have with saudi arabia. that is a relationship that has saved the lives of british citizens in the past. but let's just look at some of the relationships that the right honourable gentleman supports. when people were killed in salisbury, his sympathies were with russia. when terrorists were killing... when terrorists were killing our people, his sympathies were with the ira.
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and in the recent tanker attacks in the gulf, his sympathies were with iran. he never backs britain, and he should never be prime minister. well, that last exchange was much more typical of the sort of prime minister's questions we've become used to in recent times — a mundane to—and—fro between the main protagonists, more lengthy interrogation than lively cross—examination. but it won't be for much longer. theresa may probably only has three more pmqs before the new man takes over. so, how different will it be? i brought together katy balls, the deputy political editor of the spectator, and patrick kidd, until recently the times's political sketchwriter. did they think the last few months had been dull? it's been dull for about three years. i mean, as you can see from the number of mps that show up, i think there were 67 tory mps there to see theresa may. they're all bored rigid. i actually saw a labour mp, this was a year ago, reading a novel during pmqs. it's no longer the show—stopper, the thing you rush away
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from or cancel lunch dates. it's very dull because we have two very bad players of the game. and we have a very long prime minister's questions, don't we, katy? yes, john bercow likes to let it run on. you see the commons speaker give lots of backbench mps questions. in fairness, i think the backbench questions are where the drama can come from in terms of pmqs. and that's in part because theresa may, i don't think is a very good at pmqs performer. jeremy corbyn isn't either. there's also been a shift in what both sides want to get from prime minister's questions. so, under jeremy corbyn, i think there is a focus on the labour side of getting a clip that they can put on social media channels of him with a message which is aimed at his base. and i think that means that you're not really seeing those exchanges or the oratory you might expect of past. so, well, that might all be over now because in a few weeks' time, we'll have a new prime minister. we may not get a prime minister's questions before the summer, but we will have them eventually. so, patrick, let's look at both of the candidates. jeremy hunt, first of all, how would he be, do you think,
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at the despatch box? well, he's not really been tested. he was obviously health secretary for many years, and he was asked the same questions over and over again. i don't remember him ever setting the world alight is the trouble. he's calm and confident, he knows his brief and the thing with pmqs is it's many briefs. asjeremy corbyn proved when he went on rural buses once, and no one was expecting that. you need to be prepared to handle all sorts of subjects. i think the detailjeremy hunt will do very well, detail is what borisjohnson cannot do it all. nor thinking on his feet. and although boris will cheer up the troops, and that's a big important role in pmq, and he'll be bombastic, i think ifjeremy corbyn starts getting him on detail, we might find him stumbling into a few traps. and boris johnson has not been a good commons performer so far, has he? i don't think he has. i think there's a sense that borisjohnson is a good overall media performer.
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obviously he has some bad days, but there is a sense his personality and his dynamic presence means he draws a crowd. but i think he is much better suited to rallies and that type of event than the despatch box, and that's partly because you need to have detail. however, i do think it would be a stretch for him. i think underjeremy hunt, you perhaps have more continuity. you have someone that other mps wouldn't be nervous about slipping up, but also would not be rushing to get to their seats. with borisjohnson, i think he would draw a crowd, but i think there would always be a slight sense of unease amongst his supporters about what he might say after half an hour into his statement when he's worn down and that's the bit that he has to deliver. boris reminds me of the tale about the rather extravagant eccentric young army recruit who is told by his commanding officer the men will follow you if only out of morbid curiosity to see what's going to happen. but he was bad in foreign office questions quite often when he was up against emily thornberry. she was able because she has the confidence, she wiped the floor with him.
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i think especially if debates go on, notjust pmqs but statements, ifjohnson has to keep repeating a line over and over again and we saw this at the time of the russia salisbury instance where he was literally say it says here in my brief, his discipline goes. he eventually thinks, "0h, stuff it," and says whatever comes off the top of his head and often the stuff off top of his head is what gets him in trouble. so what's your advice to the new prime minister on how to perform at prime minister's questions? the most likely scenario is borisjohnson, and i think his weakness as we touched on is going to be detail. and i think that if you start freelancing or going off piece, freelancing or going off piste, that's when you can run into trouble. for boris, you can come up with great lines but if you don't have the detail down, it's a risky strategy. so i think it's to prepare, i think for a boris johnson premiership, preparation is going to be key. patrick. borisjohnson wants to be churchill, and churchill's best ad libs were most particularly rehearsed. so he has to have some
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zingers and he can deliver a good line, we know that. that reminds me of theresa may's very first pmqs, when she was actually rather good. and she leaned forward on the despatch box and lowered her voice and said, "remind him of anybody," invoking thatcher. and she also had the lovely line about, "he calls it austerity, i call it living within our means." you can dispute the politics of that, but that actually is a line to get your troops behind you singing your praises, shouting more. if borisjohnson orjeremy hunt can have the backbenchers shouting more, more, more, then the narrative is going to be they're a hit. if there's lots of green spaces after week two because no—one wants to come along, then it's duff. thank you. now, let's take a look at some news in brief. an mp has told how a child fainted in school because he'd had no food to eat all weekend. labour's ruth smeeth was taking part in a debate on a report by the children's future food inquiry which looked at child hunger. many children, she argued, were reliant on the meals they got
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at school, and she gave a harrowing example. a child who on monday morning collapsed, fainted when he walked into school. it took a while to understand what had happened — it was 11am in the morning. he had not eaten since his free school meal on the friday. he was given a sandwich and an apple, given how close it was to lunch. he ate the sandwich, didn't eat the apple, put it in his rucksack and they said, "it's ok, you can have lunch in a minute. it's fine, eat the food." he said, "my sister is down the hall and she has not eaten either." iran's president responded with defiance to the latest sanctions imposed by the us, saying they show the white house is "mentally retarded". in the commons, the snp got straight to the nub of the issue. will the minister confirm that the uk will not be dragged blindly into a war with the us against the international community?
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well, the us is our closest ally. we talk to them the whole time. we consider any requests that they say carefully, but i can't envisage any situation where they request, or we agree, to any moves to go to war. the government's been urged to stand up for human rights in saudi arabia after the murder of jamal khashoggi. the journalist was killed at the saudi consulate in istanbul in october last year. the united nations found credible evidence that the crown prince was liable for the killing. the saudis deny this. a labour peer and senior lawyer was part of a un team which visited turkey to investigate. we were allowed to listen to the tape of the killing of mr khashoggi. we heard intercept telephone calls on tape which showed that this was not some rogue operation, but was planned — and planned by people who were agents of the saudi state. climate change protesters descended
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on westminster in a week in which mps backed government plans to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the uk to almost zero by 2050. many of my constituents, especially schoolchildren, will be delighted with this announcement, but others are rightly sceptical about the cost. what steps is the minister taking to ensure that the plan will be achievable and affordable going forward? when it comes to legislation today — it isn't simply about saying warm words, about passing a law. we need to be able to demonstrate action that lies beneath. and action come relatively quickly with publication of an energy white paper in the summer that will look at the future of our energy supply both at the household level and the industrial level. and puffins! a conservative mp had been trying for months to secure a debate on the birds. this week, she did. spring is carnival time for puffins. they get to these safe cliff tops on some of the other 27 islands,
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and turn from solitary birds to wildly social, courting birds intent on finding a mate and creating the next generation of puffins. thejeremy kyle show has been criticised by mps for putting guests through lie detector tests without knowing how accurate those tests were. the chair of the culture committee said the producers' lack of expert knowledge was "astonishing". the committee launched an inquiry after the show was cancelled in may following the death of a guest. steve dymond died several days after reportedly failing a lie detector test. jeremy kyle himself refused to appear before the committee, but the mps were shown a clip from a programme where a lie detector test was used. how accurate do you think the polygraph test is? so we have always made it very, very clear to the viewers and participants of the show that the lie detector is not 100% accurate. we've always felt that's incredibly important. you are responsible for this programme.
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you're the person that's responsive for this programme. this is a key feature in this programme, and i think if you were using that and were being responsible, you would know the answer to that question. like i said, lam not a lie detector expert, so we would hire an expert — they do the test, they'd come up with the results, and the results would then be given to the producers, which would then be given to jeremy. and we would get involved with the actual lie detector test. you commissioned this, and i think if you don't know the answer to that question, you can't say what the ranges of accuracy of those tests, i think that's irresponsible. we explain it differently. what we would say prior to the show is that some people will fail this test, but yet they will be telling the truth. so we explained it differently, we don't use percentages. we just make it very, very clear that some people will fail that test, yet they will be telling the truth. so i think that's a fairer way to explain it. i don't think that's very fair because i don't think they're being given a full picture of what these tests are,
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how inaccurate they can be. the question i asked you was about in terms of after—care after the show, do you think actually the polygraph test is a contributing factor to people who suffer with their concerns, depression after being on the show? it is, you think it is? they do become distressed because they disagree with the result. and therefore, that's why we have a guest welfare service after the show. i've come across this programme 2—3 times, when i have my hair cut and the barber used to have it on incessantly. i could not change the channel so i changed my haircutter. and i think it's a form of trash television. predatory programming brought in from the us that people involved in making should be ashamed of themselves, actually. i was quite shocked by the clip that we saw, which was, despite the unreliability of lie detector tests, which is widely acknowledged — the presenter, in people's faces,
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was saying, "this test says you're a liar". they take that as a liar, and yet you — rather like a salesman of a dodgy product — were pointing to the small print on the screen, but not available to the contestant or guest to justify that behaviour. how would you view that comparison? i disagree completely. i think — as i said earlier, it's about informed consent for me. and we could not have been more clear with the guests that applied to come on the show. not only had they been viewers of the show, so they absolutely knew the content, but we would make it very clear to them about the accuracy of the lie detector before they travelled to manchester, where we filmed, before they took the lie detector and before they went on the show. do you have any plans whatsoever to bring this show back in any format with mr kyle as presenter?
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no. just being direct with you, there are absolutely no plans, and we are not bringing back a show that looks or feels like the jeremy kyle show. julian bellamy of itv studios. a labour mp has defended parents who've been protesting outside a birmingham primary school. roger godsiff said they hadn't been consulted over teaching about lg bt relationships. the row was sparked by storybooks featuring different families. it led to protests outside anderton park primary school in his constituency. the parents argued that pupils are "too young" to learn about lg bt relationships, which they also say contradicts islam. the head teacher said that she or her deputy would meet individual parents on a one—to—one basis to listen to their concerns. but when such meetings took place, the same answer was always given —
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namely, that the school was only paring out the equality act. we know that the motivations of some of those involved in this are reactionary, and they are to return us to an era where lgbt people should get back in the closet and hide, and be ashamed of the way they are. we aren't going to get back in the closet or hide, or be ashamed of the way we are. and nor are we going to allow a generation of pupils that are now in school to go through what pupils in the '80s had to go through because this chamber let them down. an emotional angela eagle. mps have called for more action to help people living with dementia. ministers were told there's still a stigma surrounding
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the condition and more money is needed for research. several mps had personal experience of relatives living with dementia. dementia is now the leading cause of death in the uk, overtaking heart disease and cancer. it's estimated that over 850,000 people in the uk have dementia, of which alzheimer's disease is the most common. by 2050, this is expected to increase to two million. globally, there will be 152 million people living with dementia by 2050, a 204% increase. if you don't know somebody now with dementia, you soon will. an snp mp highlighted the vulnerability of people with dementia. individuals are seen as rich pickings for those who seek to part them from their savings. as a society, we need to put structures in place to protect them in every way. now, some financial institutions have put measures in place to protect our older people, or vulnerable people, such as monitoring their bank accounts or having a few days
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buffering to remove unusually large transactions on their account to help to safeguard them against fraud. however, what be really need, and we have discussed this before — we really need is a legal duty of care towards older people, especially those with dementia. what shows the scale of the problem is how many members of talked about cuts to local authorities, but actually over the last year, we have given them access to an additional £10 billion — that's an 8% increase. but the fact is we are talking about the social care system being on the point of crisis or at tipping point, or under huge pressure shows the scale of the problem. a conservative mp told a story about her grandmother. i'd just finished my first election company contest in st helens campaign contest in st helens in 2015 as a conservative, and i wanted to show my election leaflets. at the time, my nan was in the advanced stages of dementia.
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she looked at the photos, admired the different outfits i was wearing. all of a sudden, her face went as black as thunder when she realised i was standing as a conservative. laughter. "that is not my party," she exclaimed. i said, "my goodness, nan, you can't remember what you had for breakfast, but you still remember that you're labour". gillian keegan and her nan. let's take a look at some of the other stories which have been making the political news this week. selina seth has our countdown. music. at five — 11 us republican senators from oregon have gone into hiding. why, you ask? so they can prevent a landmark climate change bill being passed. where are you? i am in idaho. at four — speakerjohn bercow is a fan of labour mp barry sherman's — drum roll, please... drum roll. flamboyant tie. the honourable gentlemen sports an admirable tie, about which my only reservation is that it's a tad understated. mr barry sherman.
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at three — jeremy hunt still makes time to chill and eat pizza during the tory leadership contest. at two — green party peer baronessjones urges peers to hurry up in the climate change debate as she is feeling a little bit nippy. actually, it's freezing in here and i haven't got a cardigan. so can we perhaps speed up this bit? and at one — so how do you relax? borisjohnson says he relaxes by painting model buses. yes, you heard that correct. selina seth. well, the fight to be the next tory leader and prime minister was an ever—present companion to the week in parliament. on the committee corridor, the international development secretary, rory stewart — a leadership candidate himself, of course, in the early stages —
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was being questioned about his department. but inevitably... you have said you would not serve in a cabinet let my borisjohnson. is that something you'd reconsider? no. then, the snp were at it during questions in the commons on thursday. but we do know isjust with the prospect of prime minister boris, support for independence rises to 53%. so we are having a particularly good tory leadership contest here. and after revelations of a domestic argument at the home of borisjohnson, labour's shadow foreign secretary couldn't resist a reference during questions to her opposite number. and it gives me an opportunity to congratulate the foreign secretary directly — notjust for being in the final two, but also being the only candidate who has the police outside his house for the right reasons. laughter. but cani...? and only another three weeks of the contest to go. and that's it for now. don't forget there's a round—up of the day in parliament each evening on bbc parliament and each
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morning on bbc two. but for now from me, mandy baker, goodbye. hello, good afternoon. it is afresh a day compared with what we have seen over the past few days across the uk but pleasant in the sunshine. the week ahead continues with a fresher theme of the atlantic. most places will be dry with sunshine. sunshine in the north but always the chance of rain at times. the hot, humid air is from switzerland, austria and germany. poland have beaten theirjune temperature this afternoon. we are into the air of the atlantic coming into the west. showers coming from that and there
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are gaps. the south and east, temperatures have been peaking at 24, 20 5 degrees this afternoon across the south east corner. generally low teens elsewhere. into the evening, one or two showers turning up in the north of england and north wales and they will push southwards as we go through to tonight. fade away quickly and many southern and eastern areas clear. later, the return into the far north—west of england, once again. temperatures tonight and tomorrow morning commute anywhere between ten and 14 degrees. it is going to be a fresh start, stronger winds which will switch to a more north—westerly direction as a low pressure pulls away towards scandinavia. blustery day across the north, showers to begin with on scotland and northern ireland and northern ingram. showers drifting into wales in the afternoon. a better chance of sunshine through the afternoon for the north showers become fewer in
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number. tomorrow, temperatures will be further down, 16 to 21 celsius, made to feel cooler by the strength of the wind. on the hills, the wind gusts we can expect if you are heading unto the hills tomorrow, particularly across the north, anywhere between 14 and 16 miles an hour. the opening day of wimbledon, a day of sunny spells. cloud at times, temperatures around 20 to 21 so times, temperatures around 20 to 21 so not as hot as it has been. the cooler night will follow for all as we head into tuesday. high—pressure starting to build in so very few showers around, sunny start for many and temperatures in single figures. clabo build—up and it will spread out through the day. cloudy afternoons. few showers in north and north—east of scotland. because the winds are lighter compared with monday, it will feel a touch warmer. warmer still through the rest of the week, particularly in the south—west. stays dry and more cloud in scotland. rain in central and northern areas. for now.
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this is bbc news. the headlines at 3pm: donald trump says it's a "great day for the world" after his walk across the border between north and south korea this morning. stepping across that line was a great honour. a lot of progress has been made. a lot of friendships have been made and this has been in particular great friendship. i just want to thank you. that was very quick notice and i just want to thank you. police name the woman stabbed to death in her home while eight months pregnant. two men have now been arrested. jeremy hunt brands the question over the uk's departure date from the eu a 'fake debate' claiming he would deliver brexit sooner than boris johnson. shadow chancellorjohn mcdonnell conceded he's frustrated by labour's lack of progress on its brexit position
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