not especially cold, but fresh enough start, particularly in the breeze and quite a breezy day to come on monday. we'll see showers there first thing, scotland, northern ireland and northern england. a few pushing into wales and the midlands through the morning but many in the south will stay dry. quite a bit of cloud at times but some sunny spells breaking through a further north after a cloudy and damp start for some. temperatures down on what we have seen, 16 to 21 degrees. and we'll stick with temperatures around average through this coming week but many, particularly in the south will stay dry. best chance of rain in the far north. hello this is bbc news with maxine croxall. the headlines: donald trump says it's a "great day for the world" after his walk across the border between north and south korea this morning. police name the woman stabbed to death in her home while eight months pregnant. two men have now been arrested. jeremy hunt brands the question over the uk's departure date from the eu a "fake debate" claiming he would deliver brexit

sooner than boris johnson. the shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell conceded he's frustrated by labour's lack of progress on its brexit position while the head of the unite union asks thatjeremy corbyn is given more time. protestors take to the streets of khartoum — calling for a return to civilian rule across sudan. and — new rules mean electric cars must now make a noise when travelling at lower speeds. now on bbc news, the review of the week from the victoria derbyshire programme. welcome to the programme. this week of the other party leadership battle, the race to be leader of the liberal democrats. on thursday we were joined by around 35 people, some lib dems voters and some

who voted for others in the past but who could be persuaded to vote for the lib dems in the future. they put their questions to the two candidates vying to be the boss of the lib dems. about a third of the audience are lib dems so they can vote for the candidates and the rest have either voted for them in recent elections might consider voting for them in the future. some of the people here are members of other parties. first of all we asked both candidates to tell us in one minute why they are the right person for the job and to tell you something about them that we don't really know. joe swinson is first. good morning. usually i run marathons but now i am running to be the leader of the liberal democrats because i think our country is crying out for a liberal movement to stand up and be an alternative

to the narrow nationalism of borisjohnson and nigel farage. our country deserves better than boris‘s brexit britain and we can paint a better vision for the future, one of hope where we transform our economy so it works for the people and the planet where everyone can live with dignity and have the opportunity to thrive and where we work with other countries to tackle the big issues we face from poverty to terrorism to the climate emergency. the two party system is being fractured and we have a huge opportunity to change our broken politics. we need to reach out to new voters and that is what i am determined to do as leader of the liberal democrats. we can do this together, so join me. ed davey. british politics is in a mess.

divided by brexit, issues like social care, rising crime, the climate emergency is not being tackled. as leader i would want to end brexit quickly. given that mps made the mess, the quickest ways to take it back to the people. i then hope we vote to stay and we will have a lot more money to fix the problems that led to brexit. i wanted to tackle inequality and help communities left behind and invest heavily in the nhs and schools. i would also make climate emergency a priority as the climate change cabinet minister i nearly quadrupled britain's renewable power and i have a plan to a greener economy. i hope that experience and vision can help heal our divided country. as a younger man i almost served our country in a different way. mi6 tried to recruit me to be a spy overseas but i had just been appointed to the economic adviser to paddy ashdown so i never became 00 davy.

so you decided to be economic adviser to a lib dems leader rather than be a spy for britain. i believe you can serve your country in an even bigger way in politics. less exciting though. working for paddy was pretty exciting! let's get straight to it. the country could be out of the eu without a deal within four months. you want a second referendum hoping that it will reverse brexit. you just don't have time to lobby and persuade colleagues and others to get enough mps on board for a second referendum. what are you going to do? i think we do have time to do that. you really don't have time.

i think we do. we had 280 vote in favour of a people's vote in parliament. just 12 votes away from passing. there are more mps that need to rally to that cause. it is notjust rallying them, it is getting it organised and sorted. you can't do that by october 31. we can. if the parliament agrees to have a people's vote of the european union has been very clear they will offer an extension. what would need to happen by 31st of october is the parliament to vote for a people's vote. that requires conservative mps to back it. i do think the prospect of a no—deal exit is one which is focusing minds in the conservative party right now, including those who are currently ministers who have been arguing in private for a people's vote but haven't backed it yet. even with a people's vote it doesn't stop and no deal somewhere down the line, does its? if we have a people's vote and people voted to remain then it absolutely does. clearly you would need the extension to the 31st october but the eu has been clear about that. what is your plan to stop no deal?

two big plans have been talked about to talks about cross party. one is to pass a new law to require a vote by mps before we leave. that would be the best legal protection to stop a no—deal brexit. another option, the nuclear option, is to have a vote of no—confidence in the government. we have already heard from tory mps on bbc's panorama, there is a number of mps who would vote for no—confidence. that could be a general election and we won't be afraid of that. but i would like a government of national unity, bringing the parties together, headed up by a backbench labour mp that would be a temporary government for one purpose alone, to pass legislation for a people's vote and then i believe we can win

that vote and we can get out of this mess. some people think that sounds absolutely crazy, that is effectively the queen cancelling brexit, installing an emergency government with yvette cooper or hilary benn. it would be mps voting in parliament is not the queen. the palace could send for the mp, whoever it was, because they were signalling they had support across parties to form a national unity. i know people think it is a bit far—fetched at the moment and i get that but we have to be putting these ideas forward, radical ideas, because we have to stop this mess. what do yvette cooper and hilary benn make of your idea? i haven't spoken to them. but we need to get it out there early on. we are not going to see the colour of boris johnson's jeremy hunt's

plan until september so we need to move on this. i am a lib dem and i also a leaver. is that quite a lonely life? it is a sad life! if we had another referendum and had an norway style deal at the end of it. would the liberal democrats deliver that because if we ended up in government after general election and had a second referendum and people voted to leave, seeing as the political declaration is quite broad at the moment what would we do then? i think a people's vote needs to have a specific brexit on the ballot paper. the problem we have now is that brexit was allowed to mean whatever people wanted it to mean in 2016. you can see that in the brexiteers in parliament even now cannot agree on what brexit should look like. are you saying that on the ballot

paper it would be remain, leave with a deal and leave without a deal? it is best to have remain an brexit specific options so that could be theresa may's deal but if there was a new prime minister with a norway style deal, i think that is a bit optimistic but... would you accept the results though of a second referendum when you haven't accepted the result of the first? the first referendum gave the government the mandate to negotiate but we didn't have the details of what that would look like. so yes, the answer is if the people vote for a specific brexit option with all of that information then absolutely. a bit like scotland in 2014 when the snp published a white paper saying this is what an independent scotland would look like and people were then able to vote on that proposal. let's say it was remain, would you accept people who didn't like the result of the second

referendum that voted remain agitating for a third referendum? in politics... yes or no. yes. in politics you are always argue for what you believe in. so you would facilitate a third referendum? no, i don't think so. i think we need to put this issue to bed. the people feel they have already put this issue to bed? i am a solicitor and management consultant. my issue is we have already had this decision, the people have voted, i voted remain but now i respect the outcome of that. why can't you ? my other question is i've lost a huge faith in our government and political system. you say you represent the people but you have just

expressed there and i feel this is your campaign and not that of the people. so who are you really representing? jo swinson has said that if a second referendum happens and the vote was remain. she wouldn't allow a third. would you, ed davey? no. because you have the answer that you wanted. i believe a second referendum with the huge amount of information we know now should be respected. i wouldn't change my view. i've lost elections and it doesn't mean that i would lose hope in liberal democracy and my values. i think we would actually not really go forward for a third referendum. that would be too destabilising. can i make the point is, annoys me when people say

we are undemocratic to want a vote. vote is democratic. it would be undemocratic if we said we were going to cancel brexit without the people making the decision. the point they are making as it is undemocratic to not deliver on the outcome of a vote. let's look the polls. there has been a switch to remain, a significant switch. in a democracy people are allowed to change their mind. the reason they say it is undemocratic is because you haven't delivered on the first one. we are talking about something that is an irrevocable decision for our country, going down a path that we cannot in three or four years' time say we are going to change this. this is an irrevocable decision and step to be taken. if we do not have confidence that is what the people want us to do and i do not have confidence and that's because of that is proposed to be no deal there are plenty of people, not least in parliament, who said they voted for leave but wouldn't have done so if they knew it was no deal.

also plenty of brexiteers have seen theresa may's deal and said they would rather stay in the eu. if we do not have confidence that the public are behind any type of brexit, how can we take that irrevocable step in all good conscience? what i wanted to ask was if a second brexit referendum was going ahead... sorry, i am trying to get my thoughts together. i think it is if they would allow a second scottish referendum? yes. i don't think we should have that. are you a hypocrite then? no, because there is a big difference. in 2014 in scotland we had a debate which was based on a very detailed white paper that said this is our plan for an independent scotland. lets not go over history.

but if britain leaves the eu then circumstances will have changed, will they not? there is not a mandate in scotland to have a second independent referendum. the snp have been putting forward their case and have been losing their seat. they lost 21 mps where this was a keyissue they lost 21 mps where this was a key issue in the election and myself and others got elected. what most people in scotland want is scotland in the uk and the uk in the eu and it is only the liberal democrats that are making that case and standing up for both of those propositions. i agree withjo. it was clear that in the independence referendum there was a detailed plan for those who wanted independence completely different to brexit when there was no plan whatsoever. if brexit is delivered whenever that may be then things will have changed. we have seen how difficult and costly for britain to even begin to prepare to leave the eu which has been a participation for 40 or 50 years. imagine how complicated it would be

for scotland to leave the united kingdom when it has been in a union for over 300 years. i really worry about the impact it will have on ordinary people's lives in scotland. brexit will be pretty disruptive. add onto that scottish independence and i think people would say you are just ruining our lives and our country. i am a labour voter that can't vote for corbyn so i am looking for a new home. regardless of what happens in the future of brexit i would be interested in your plans for healing the enormous rifts in the country. what can be done? can ijust ask you, do you think a second referendum is part of the healing process or does it continue the division is? difficult to say. i personally would appreciate a second referendum could because i don't think we had the facts when we voted on the first one.

applause. would you appreciate a second referendum? the issue is we would need a third. on the workings of article 50, if you have a referendum just after the uk has finished with its current stage of negotiations you can promise a norway style deal but you would have to have a referendum on the final negotiations after that. ok, healing the divisions. it is interesting that you are worried about jeremy corbyn. i think that the labour party has gone to the far left and the conservative party is adopting quite right wing positions as well. how would you heal divisions in the country? i believe the liberal democrats have to be a political home to those pro— eu labour social democrats and is equally to these pro—eu tories. we can be that political home we can have a programme whether it

is investing in public services, schools, dealing with climate emergency are tackling homelessness, i think we could give a really strong lead and be a party of government. jo? there are lots of divisions in our society in this moment but there are two big divides about the brexit vote and one of those as economic and one is cultural. in economic issue we have to be honest that the economy is broken, it doesn't work for so many people who work hard and try to get on and still find a living in poverty and cannot get out of it. we do need transformation and part of that is about investment and public services but it is also about changing how our economy works. that is one way to start healing. on the cultural issues what really worries me about that brexit vote is not just about what it said about eu institutions but in terms

of what kind of country we are and our liberal values. those are under threat. when i was growing up in the 19805 and 1990s, it felt like there was a lot of inequality but things were going in the right direction. now none of that is for granted. we have seen spikes in hate crime, our country becoming a less tolerant price. i think as liberals we need to be very robust in making the case for our liberal values as a society. i voted liberal democrat in 2010 but was absolutely horrified by the coalition and your participation in austerity. i would be interested to know if the liberal democrats are prepared to take any responsibility for the brexit vote being delivered. i think austerity was a huge element behind the delivery of the brexit

vote and it was expressing frustration about the fact the economy had been crashed by a certain group of people and instead of them being made to pay for it the poorest and most needy in society were forced to pay for it again and again. let's get a yes or no to that. do you accept responsibility for the eu referendum being held? i don't. as a member of the government i have to take responsibility for the measures it implemented. do you regret any of those austerity measures that you voted for? there are ones i felt very difficult. do you regret it? i regret doing things i didn't believe in, of course. what did you do that you didn't believe in? i wasn't happy with the second bedroom tax for example. but you voted for it? when you are in a coalition and doing things like quadrupling renewable power and other things, we managed to get a huge amount in place.

70% of the liberal democrat manifesto, we managed to get in place. if you are in a compromised situation you don't get everything you want. therefore you had to give in a few things. and the bedroom tax is what you gave in on. let's remember what we didn't give in on. don't change the conversation. george osborne wanted to slash welfare benefits far greater and deeper and we stopped him. you can point to the ones we didn't stop and that is justified but look at the ones we absolutely stopped and i am proud we were there to stop the right—wing tories cutting welfare even deeper. do you take responsibility for the eu referendum vote because of the austerity measures you voted for in the coalition governments? i don't think it was a result of the liberal democrats. the referendum was only able

to happen once the conservatives were governing on their own and they had said they hadn't expected they would have to deliver on having a referendum in the first place. they thought they would potentially be in a coalition again and they wouldn't be held to that. i do recognise that while we did do a lot of great stuff, more money for poorer pupils, we can't get everything right. what do you regret then? the bedroom tax. we should not have let that through. we should also not have gone back on what we said on tuition fees. we actually had a policy that low income people could go to university but there was a policy we had and we didn't do it and that was wrong. we have to be honest about that and move on. who wants to ask them about potential coalition partners in the future if there was a hung

parliament because if you don't i definitely do. hi, i'm ricardo from sutton and a lib dem member. what would be the price of a coalition or the price of a confidence and supply agreement if we were going to work with labour or the conservatives again, would that be a people's vote, electoral reform ? what would be the price worth paying? the first thing i would say is there is no possibility of us doing a deal with a brexiter. injeremy corbyn you have a brexiter and in borisjohnson orjeremy hunt you have brexiteers. absolutely no way. if we were looking in future, yes, we want to stop brexit. that is a key priority for us. the strategic importance of electoral reform, again, this sounds like a geeky lib dem thing to say but part of the problem we in at the moment is because our voting system is so broken. you have two massive

political parties neither of which function at the moment and we need electoral reform. i strongly agree with jo on this. it would be impossible for liberal democrats in a future parliament to support a brexiteer tory or a brexiteer labour. we have lots of liberal democrat mps if we have lots of liberal democrat mps, i think we can hold the balance of power and we can stop some of the awful right—wing brexiteers if it's the tory governments and stop some of the really far left policies ofjeremy corbyn. let's remember in this parliament many votes were won or lost by one mp voting one way. imagine if we have a lot of mps for liberal democrats in the future parliament. even if it is a hung parliament again, we can exercise huge influence.

people ask why would we want to go into governments, if there was a decent partner to do it we would do it. who would be a decent partner? if there was a leader of another political party that has a more moderate position notjust on things like brexit but on the economy, social issues and environmental issues, of course we would work with them. the reason we support electoral reform so much is that leads to a less extreme politics. if you believe in that you should be prepared to work for people who are less extreme and we would. you have both said you wouldn't go into coalition with a brexiteer but if there was another referendum and we voted for brexit you would go for it. we're not going to stop that leaving the european union is a good idea. but we need to think about about a peoples' vote to put this matter to

rest. as a young person i am aware that you are the but of many a joke and many are mean because it is sort of understood that there are not many of you and were not entirely sure what you do any more. to be as polite as possible, i'm wondering what it is you have plans to revitalise your image, make it seem as though you are, from what i've heard you are a viable party, it doesn't seem that way to many a young person who isn't as engaged as other people here this morning. i think we have in the last three years had a lot of clarity and a lot of respect for standing up on what we believe in so many people recognise we are about strongest party of remain. and that we are prepared to work with others to achieve that goal and secure a people's vote. that is a good start. in terms of young people social media is very important and sometimes it is important not to take yourself too seriously. i obviously sweet and insta

about the climate emergency. but some of the things that have most engagement are tweeting a picture of the bus for example yesterday. keep your answer short. brexit aside i am not sure that people like yourself and your friends know what liberal democrats stand for. i remember paddy ashdown who said that he'd sell his grandmother for an image of the party, under him it became the party of education. i would like us to focus on education but also the environment. wih my track record with offshore wind, we could be known as the party for the environment and we could relate to you and your friends. but is it for this week. more on the website. we are back on monday morning. live at 10am on bbc two and the bbc news channel.

hello. as we went into the evening yesterday we still saw temperatures for some in the south and the east above 30 degrees. this evening, closer to the low to mid 20s for many here with some sunshine ever had. a bit more cloud in the north and west, a fresher feel stop shower still in scotland and northern ireland. a few actually in northern england and north wales compared with what we've seen through the day. some showers continue through the night, particularly to the north and west of scotland, but some returning to northern ireland and northern england later. southern and eastern areas, seeing the best of the breaks in the cloud and temperatures into your monday morning commute between ten and 14 celsius. not especially cold, but fresh enough start, particularly in the breeze and quite a breezy day to come on monday. we'll see showers there first thing, scotland, northern ireland and northern england. a few pushing into wales and the midlands through the morning but many in the south will stay dry. quite a bit of cloud at times but some sunny spells breaking through further north after a cloudy and damp start for some. temperatures down on what we have seen, 16 to 21 degrees.

and we'll stick with temperatures around average through this coming week but many, particularly in the south will stay dry. best chance of rain in the far north.

hello. this is bbc news. the headlines at 4: donald trump says it's a "great day for the world" after his walk across the border between north and south korea this morning. stepping across that line was a great honour. a lot of progress has been made. a lot of friendships have been made and this has been, in particular, a great friendship. i just want to thank you. that was very quick notice and i want to thank you. police name the woman stabbed to death in her home while eight months pregnant. two men have now been arrested. jeremy hunt brands the question over the uk's departure date from the eu a "fake debate", claiming he would deliver brexit sooner than boris johnson. the shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell, conceded he's