hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. borisjohnson and jeremy hunt have just finished debating in the contest to be the next uk prime minister. we'll talk to our political correspondent vicky young for analysis on their clashed over the brexit deadline and "no deal". president trump also came up. that's because the us president has again firecely attacked the british ambassador to washington, calling him stupid and pompous. he also lashed out at theresa may and her brexit plan. we'll hear from anthony zurcher in washington.

hong kong's leader has said the controversial extradition bill that caused huge protests is "dead" — we'll look at why the opposition say that's not enough. and in 05 business we'll look at italy's massive debt burden — and why the eu is worried about it. the two remaining candidates to be britain's next prime minister are debating one another right now. this was the moment it began. the debate is being broadcast on itv, one of the biggest commercial networks in the uk. of course brexit came up, and jeremy hunt put borisjohnson, on the spot. if you don't get excited the eu by sist if you don't get excited the eu by 31st of october will you resign? we

will come out on october 31 and i think anybody who goes into the negotiation proposing yet again to kick the can down the road while i think they run the risk of forfeiting trust with that i tore it up forfeiting trust with that i tore it up and also under minding the negotiating position in brussels. the delay does not deliver idl. a deadline will deliver a big deal. the delay does not deliver idl. a deadline will deliver a big dealli think if they know and what we had a someone think if they know and what we had a someone who think if they know and what we had a someone who says think if they know and what we had a someone who says it's do or die... i'm sorryl someone who says it's do or die... i'm sorry i think what we have...” askedif i'm sorry i think what we have...” asked if he will resign and you didn't answer the question live my opponent is clearly not committed to coming out on the 31st of the eu. the bbc‘s andrew neil tweet "the blue on blue is fun to watch." and political correspondent for the guardian peter walker "every time hunt makes an attack on johnson, johnson starts to talk over him, as to to curb the flow.

it seems a deliberate tactic." there was certainly some of that in evidence here, in this exchange about donald trump an the british ambassador. i have a very good relationship with the white house and i'm very proud of what i was able to build up as my time as foreign secretary, it's important we should have a close friendship and partnership with the united states, they are our most important ally and i think it's been the closest between us, i don't think... he was dragged into a british political debate in the way he sometimes is come i don't think it's necessarily the right thing for him to do asjeremy said, so let's face it though, our relationship with the us

is a fantastic ordinance. and on british civil service, i would just say this, i think it's absolutely vital that the advice that civil servants and gave it to ministers should not be leaked by ministers. and should not be commented on by ministers and civil serva nts commented on by ministers and civil servants are going to feel free to give that advice would the impartiality they want. facts on this point, i will he still be in hisjob at the this point, i will he still be in his job at the end of this point, i will he still be in hisjob at the end of his this point, i will he still be in his job at the end of his tenure this point, i will he still be in hisjob at the end of his tenure if you become prime minister, mr hunt? i will say this about that relationship, to answer your question and i have set clearly tonight, i believe the relationship of the united states and the relationship between the uk and the usa is the most important alliance in history, and on that i agree with president trump, but who chooses our ambassadors is a matter for the united kingdom government and the

united kingdom government and the united kingdom government and the united kingdom by ministers and i had made it clear... ifi united kingdom by ministers and i had made it clear... if i am our next prime minister, the ambassador in washington stays because it's our decision. i listen very carefully to whatjeremy has just said and i repeat my point, it is buried by told that our civil servants are not politicized by ministers leaking what they say. whoever leaked that deserves to be eviscerated. flynn don't want and tell us if you would keep the ambassador, no one here is going to tell anyone just to answer. let that go on, boris. he's due to retire until christmas and i would keep him until he retires. what about you ? we keep him until he retires. what about you? we want to know your

answer. say you're going to keep in but you wouldn't keep them or extend his time? i will keep him until he is due to retire and i think we want to know if you would.” is due to retire and i think we want to know if you would. i will not be presumptuous as to... what i will say is i and i alone will decide who ta kes say is i and i alone will decide who takes important politically sensitive jobs and signs such as the uk ambassador to the us. as is usual after these events supporter of each candidate are talking up their side in the spin room at the event — vicki young is there for us. hi, dickie watched it all and now you're being told from outside pilot went, how did you do it? it's interesting because they both went in with clear ideas about what they wa nted in with clear ideas about what they wanted to get across and from boris johnson, it's basically saying let brexit is handled badly by someone who wasn't believing in it all along, that country has been too

defeatist and we have to be more optimistic about it. jeremy hunt response is always to say wait, you won't get through with optimism you need realism as well and details you cannot try to get there on a wing and prayer and is trying to bring him something to think about candidate maybe not with charisma borisjohnson by candidate maybe not with charisma boris johnson by saying that simply not enough for now we are going to speak to boris johnson not enough for now we are going to speak to borisjohnson supporter who is here, yourformer speak to borisjohnson supporter who is here, your former mp, speak to borisjohnson supporter who is here, yourformer mp, what did you make of that, at times not answering the questions or about the ambassador what he'll be in place whether he would resign he didn't a nswer whether he would resign he didn't answer any of us question. lots of questions were posed tonight and frankly that is one question that matters at the moment, and that's what it will lead the eu by this deadline at the 31st of october, as boris said, delays don't make deals, deadlines do. and nothing else can happen until we have left the eu and then boris can start bringing forward his positive optimism

optimistic plan for our country with his investment in schools and 20,000 bobbies on the street, he talked the infrastructure in north england, i'm from yorkshire particularly, but the biggest question and the only real question that matters tonight is getting out of the european union and then we can move on to all the other big pressing issues that face oui’ other big pressing issues that face our country. ajeremy other big pressing issues that face our country. a jeremy hunt view other big pressing issues that face our country. ajeremy hunt view he says he's the candidate more likely to win across people who are liberal democrats are swing voters are voted labour in the past and borisjohnson will be able to do that, he will bring the country together the same way stop live i was and high distilled market this morning with friends and people from all different backgrounds are backing boris. you only need to look at the parliamentary party as well, there are people who supported remained during the referendum and those who supported brexit, boris has a broad base of support and you only have to look at his programme talking about investing in education and when i lost my seat in 2017, and a school

funding wasa lost my seat in 2017, and a school funding was a big issue i will admit that and i am so delighted he has grasped that and wants to invest in education talking about infrastructure and people in my neck of the wood struggling on overcrowded trains in the morning and talking about broadband fibre connection, and he talked about crime, tackling crime, does the epidemic. bal is quite interesting on the attack because he promised to bring in tax cuts, their middle learners in high earners, is not really directing to do and put across at the conservative party wa nts to across at the conservative party wants to cut taxes for the rich? he clearly explained he has a package of measures in different measures to at different times, and i think he was very good the way he explained he was the one to actually bring in the living wage for londoners, and he made sure they all got a pay rise, andl he made sure they all got a pay rise, and i know when speaking to borisjohnson, he rise, and i know when speaking to boris johnson, he understands rise, and i know when speaking to borisjohnson, he understands we need to support working families who are working hard, commuting to work

bringing money home and that's like he has a broad brush and support, you getting support from different backgrounds. positive optimistic message, is likely not the country and most importantly make sure that the mayhem of marxism never gets anywhere in a ten. he talked about a ha rd anywhere in a ten. he talked about a hard line with the eu. and jeremy hunt response was to say luck if you ta ke hunt response was to say luck if you take a hard line with that they would do it back. that's not how you negotiate with people who are our allies and friends stop live he talked about negotiating but as he said, it's really important to remember this. then they don't make deals. deadlines do. and speaking to businesses and my neck of the woods, even business leaders who supported remaina even business leaders who supported remain a couple of years ago, they are now saying the delay and uncertainty is worse than anything. they want certainty and they can deal with anything that happens as

long as they know what happened so we need to leave the eu by the 31st of october. he said they would be a cost with no deal but he wouldn't say what that was. he is the only cabinet that act of the two we heard tonight he says they're going to leave and he has a plan to leave. we can't have any more of this uncertainty, it's damaging people businesses and our lives and jobs and we can have a can—do attitude lots of positivity and enthusiasm and boris has a plan and you can see he carried that room tonight, lots of warm response to what he said looking forward to him hopefully becoming prime minister. ok, i think you very much. shortly we will speak to someone who is in the other can't support a jeremy hunt to the prime minister in two weeks' time. vicki, thank you very much and he will be right back with you in a few minutes now look at the other side of the equation. you can get clips from what happened during the ipd debate

through our website and app. we heard them arguing over donald trump. well, look at these pictures from washington from a little earlier. president trump has been welcoming the qatari emir to the oval office. but overshadowing it all is the growing row between the uk and us. president trump's daughter ivanka who's an adivser on economic affairs is set to meet the uk's international trade secretary liam fox. but one person won't be there — the uk's ambassador to the us sir kim darroch. the bbc‘s been told the ambassador has decided to not attend the meeting. our correspondent nick bryant has the likely reason "he didn't want to put ivanka trump in awkward position. evidently trying to be the grown up not in the room. this decision taken before latest tweet storm." nick's referring to this "the wacky ambassador that

the uk foisted upon the united states is not someone we are thrilled with, a very stupid guy. he should speak to his country, and prime minister may, about their failed brexit negotiation, and not be upset with my criticism of how badly it was..." "i told @theresa—may how to do that deal, but she went her own foolish way—was unable to get it done. a disaster! this is the president of the america talking about the uk president asked minister. i don't know the ambassador but have been told he is a pompous fool. tell him the usa now has the best economy & military anywhere in the world, by far...". and of course all this was sparked by sir kim darroch‘s leaked emails in which he used words like "inept" and "chaotic" to describe the trump administration. here's one former british ambassador to the usa on how the uk should

handle this situation. calmly. taking a medium long view of the situation. not rushing into doing something like getting rid of the ambassador as if we follow president trapp's orders, we had a prime minister, who has given her full support to our ambassador and she leaves the scene in two weeks' time that will have a new bridge by minister, and i hope the way he thinks will be august is a time when i should washington shuts down, nobody comes back to work until after labour day in september. so it gives us time our passions to cool and then we'll see where we are. the president tweeted that "i don't know the ambassador but have been told he is a pompous fool". but a number of top admistration officials have socialised with sir kim. kellyane conway spent new years eve 2017 celebrating with the ambassador. outgoing press secretary sarah sanders attended an engagement

party at the british embassy in dc. even president trump's lawyer rudy giuliani has attended events held by the ambassador darroch. and just recently the uk's foreign secretaryjeremy hunt tweeted "allies need to treat each other with respect as @theresa—may has always done with you. ambassadors are appointed by the uk government and if i become pm our ambassador stays." here's anthony zurcher in washington. all due respect, my guess is he won't lose sleep over the position he's taken. no, i don't think donald trump ever related gets that worked up trump ever related gets that worked up over criticism of his manner of going after people on twitter and social media when he takes naps at people i think he views it as one of his strengths, they can be blind and swipe back at

people who criticise him and so yes, washington does tend to die down in august, but as long as the ambassador is in this job, i think they'll come up whenever donald trump feels like picking on the uk has an let. is that the story in the us could clearly it is here but how is it in the us media?” hate to say this, but it's barely moving the needle here in the us, i was looking at the front page of the new york times website it was a that link it there, i had to scroll down all the way down to another website to see if it cut my cable network, it's occasionally mention by people have kinda built up a tolerance for donald trump going after critics on social media, so i believe it's been greeted more with that ship here, thatjeffrey epstein story is bigger. the fact that it's not moving a needle is it because people ijust moving a needle is it because people i just used to moving a needle is it because people ijust used to his language or they don't believe it'll have consequences or it won't impact on relationship fundamentally? you

know, there was a press conference at the state department earlier today, and a spokesman there said that they are going to continue to deal with the ambassador until they receive any sort of direction from the white house and they had not received anything yet, they talk about the relationship of uk being baker —— bigger than any one and certainly it's not the first time we think donald trump going after someone on think donald trump going after someone on twitter and then the people of the administration, the people of the administration, the people beneath him essentially viewing it as him letting off steam and not taking any action unless they get specific instructions to do so, soi they get specific instructions to do so, so i think they are definitely asa so, so i think they are definitely as a second night of that going on here with the public, may look at it as donald trump once again getting ona as donald trump once again getting on a twitter spot whether it's with rosie o'donnell or what the prime minister of united kingdom. thank you, anthony. stay with us on outside source — still to come... we are going to talk about virgin galactic, it hasn't spent any tourists to space yet but it's

planning to list and that new york stock exchange which will find out how that works in. employees from ethnic minority groups earned on average 4% less than their white counterparts last year. the figures — published by the office for national statistics — are part of the first detailed analysis of britain's ethnicity pay gap. adina campbell reports. whoo! a new generation of graduates. today, these young people at bath university are celebrating their academic achievements, and many will go on to be part of britain's future workforce. but according to a new report, some of these graduates could see differences in pay because of their ethnicity. if you line—up all the workers in britain in order of their pay, it's how the salary of the white person in the middle compares with that of the ethnic minority person, also in the middle. the new report found ethnic minorities earn nearly 4% less than white ethnic groups. in london, this is even higher, with a pay gap of nearly 2296.

as the uk becomes more culturally rich, there are growing calls for all employers to publish their ethnicity pay gap figures, similar to the gender pay gap, to ensure broad fairness for the changing faces in multicultural britain. adina campbell, bbc news. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is... conservative leadership rivals borisjohnson and jeremy hunt have have been going head to head in a television debate. ross perot has died. he twice ran as an independent candidate for us president in the 1990s. in his first run, he won nearly a fifth of the vote — helping bill clinton beat george bush. bbc world service english. egypt says it will take legal action over the sale of a tutankhamun bust which was bought for $6 million at a london auction house last week. cairo warned it was probably stolen in the 19705, but the auctioneers christie's says all necessary checks were made

and that the sale was legal. bbc arabic. bbc arabic‘s survey that's looked at attitudes to sex in the middle east and north africa has found that people feel less free to express themselves than they did five years ago. and that that is having an impact on sex education. christine lagarde is expected to be confirmed as the new head of the european central bank in october. one of her top priorities will be italy and what to do about its huge debt burden. the country currently owes about $2.6 trillion. darshini david has been to rome to meet the governor of italy's central bank — to find out what can be done about the debt problem. italians are having to tighten their

belts. and a lack of cash could affect us all. many people have seven or 800 euros a month to live on, and people are losing jobs all the time. however tempting the product, it's not easy for businesses. we get nothing back, we pay our taxes but expects of us is to be cut and instead they are cutting them. here at the bank of italy, they are concerned about how tough life as per italians, as in the uk, wages have failed to keep pace with the cost of living over the past decade. so government promising to slash taxes and raise public spending has an obvious appeal. but that's pushed up the level of public get to a point concerning that not just level of public get to a point concerning that notjust an breathless, but also here in the central bank. it's high, it's been increasing because of low growth but at the same time, there is uncertainty now on how to deal with it. and that markets are making us

pay for that. the problem is over e2 trillion in italian public debt is held by banks, notjust here, but across europe. at that as a crisis of confidence among investors about the government ability to manage its money, they could all and so to suffer do cadet ability to lend it. just as many price of the european economy are struggling. it's not just italy though, gemini is risking recession while the uk is struggling with uncertainty. so, annie financial shock yet to be more damaging than the greek crisis of 2010. italy is a major economy in the euro zone, greece is relatively tiny compared to italy, to their debt market and economy, so the disruption that could cause is much bigger. the pressure for italy to abide by the eu barring rules is immense. we are

in a moment and reached in the european design that's not suddenly at a high, said their attentions and very strong pensions, and each country has its own tensions. after decades of lax financial management, government promised brussels and a tighten up its finances. there hope of great prosperity is going to the rest of sacrifice for fortune of europe as a whole. tweet @richardbra nson "delighted to share that @virgingalactic has taken a huge step to becoming the first ever publicly listed human spaceflight company. " it wants to raise 800 million dollars and plans to start trading later this year. michelle fleury is in new york. before we talk about details of that some people may be thinking it's a goodidea some people may be thinking it's a good idea for a company to take a huge step actually sending someone to space, because now they go for a

wild and they had a do not. that's right, they have been going since 2004 and i think so far, it's only in the last 12 months or so they made it into what is considered that sort of fringes of space. they did another test run in february where they were able to take a pilot up and that goal ultimately as he pointed out is to bring pain customers into space, problem is a ta kes customers into space, problem is a takes lots that might ain't easy to steal today. what's the business model and message to investors in the $800 million how did they pay it back and more by individual pain customers? they had a space capsule that takes about six people at a guy they'll have to do lots of trips because decided to make it as he is a payoff. but at the moment, the company says it has reservations from about 600 people in

60 countries, $80 million they say already and deposit, they claim potential revenue by taking people into space $120 million. we will have to wait and see whether or not they can make the number is added up, but it's worth pointing out branson isn't the only billionaire getting into the space tourism business you also havejeff baeza knows, he has his company origin planning to take space tourists on trips, and then you got elon musk, he space sex and he announced plans aid is going to take a wealthy japanese space. thank you, michelle. a reminder of our lead story, two men battling to be the next prime minister live on itv taking question from audiences in clashing with the buy there and we have been talking as you expect about brexit, boris johnson and his supporters and you can makea johnson and his supporters and you can make a deal with the delay, deadlines make deals, and the

next type of outside source will be live speaking and hearing from support thejeremy speaking and hearing from support the jeremy hunt and speaking and hearing from support thejeremy hunt and what speaking and hearing from support the jeremy hunt and what they think he did. hello again. we have seen some torrential rain affect the price at the east of the united states over the last 24 hours. particularly the mid—atla ntic states, we had this local creek turned into a raging torrent from the torrential rain. if training into a wet virginia from arlington area, it wasn'tjust raging and yet that's a heavy rain we also had torrential down place washington, dc in the capital. that cause flooding problems as well. torrential rain resulting with this little area of low pressure, the standard clouds you see

on satellite picture, they have moved out of the way. attention now switching to what's going on in the south where we expect no pressure to form in the northern gulf of mexico, which could concentrate to become a tropical depression that would bring torrential rain to some areas in the southern us states. meanwhile, further heavy rain in indiana, 125 mm in the last 24 hours affecting them by no doubt, further water logging here. heaviest rain across eastern areas in the next couple of days where we could easily get 1— mm of rain perhaps three or 400 and places over the next few days, so we could see some significant flooding issues here. and then into eastern and southern areas of china, we had had some huge rainfall totals. the last 24 hours... for us, at 219 is 400 mark —— four months of that in the space ofjust six hours. that was all courtesy of this line of cloud, and you can think of it as part of the world where the rich moist airfrom the monsoon meetsjet

stream, explosive combination bringing torrential rain. we get more of that from the same front working in across parts of china, and you could get another 200 mm of rain across these areas bringing in risk as some significant lighting and areas as well. wet weather from the low front pushing in some further heavy rain, but not as torrential as the rain we had last week causing significant problems. last week there was a metre of rain or more in a few places. whether picture in europe, huge contrast, more sunshine the next few days across france into spain and portugal temperatures are rising, 28 degrees in paris, 37 in the dred, torrential thunder down place affecting price in italy in the balkans and southern parts of romania and bulgaria, i could get hailstorms from those, whether it stays cool and shower for a swathe of northeast europe with little change in the forecast and the next few days. far as we have blood pressure to the west, and as far as

forecast because tomorrow, abs 90 spells and showers, heaviest across northern price at the uk, quite a bit of cloud to start off with eventually turning brighter for the rest of the day, that your weather.

hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. borisjohnson and jeremy hunt have just finished debating in the contest to be the next uk prime minister. we'll talk to our political correspondent rob watson for analysis on their clashed over the brexit deadline and "no deal". there was lots of debate, but was there clarity? this is one of the reasons why, let's be... that's because the us president has again firecely attacked the british ambassador to washington, calling him stupid and pompous.

he also lashed out at theresa may and her brexit plan. we'll hear from anthony zurcher in washington we'll also talk about the labour party — becausejeremy corbyn has challenged the next tory leader to hold another referendum before taking britain out of the eu, saying labour will campaign for remain. and italy has closed a camp that was once the biggest reception centre for asylum—seekers in europe. borisjohnson and jeremy hunt have been debating tonight — the two men standing to be the next prime minister are in the same party but they had some pretty testy exchanges. here they are, on

brexit. if we have to go out on no deal, we'll have £39 billion to spend and i think i'll be very helpful and lubricating the consequences. last time we debated this, you said that in a no deal situation, we would be able to avoid tariffs through something you called article 24. paragraph five b. i know you are stickler for details. and tend to go on about it. saying that that would not be possible and yes he does. know he doesn't. no he doesn't. what he says is that you can only get that agreement to waive tariffs if the other side agreed and they have made it absolutely clear that they will not agree. and are you worried that getting

details like that wrong is ok for a newspaper column but as prime minister, yourjob is at sta ke. only a defeatist and someone who is actually on the other side of the argument and someone who did not want to leave a take that line. but what will be proposed is very sensible. underneath the paragraph five b arrangement. only if both parties agree to it. it would be, i never said anything differently. really? last time you said we would not face tariffs. it will be absurd for the eu to impose tariffs, come from the eu to impose tariffs, come from the eu without a deal with optimism. gentlemen, please. i do not want you talking over one another. vicky young has been in the spin room tonight hearing from

both camps, here's a supporter ofjeremy hunt. i think it was interesting because they were in there with clear ideas of wonder they get across and boris johnson, it is basically saying that brexit has been handled badly by someone brexit has been handled badly by someone who was brexit has been handled badly by someone who was not brexit has been handled badly by someone who was not really believing in brexit all along and that the country has been to defeatist. jeremy hunt plus plus response to that was, you're not going to get there with optimism, you need some realism as well. you need details and trying to get through on a wing and trying to get through on a wing and a prayer. it is really trying to frame himself as a sensible candidate, maybe now at the charisma, but saying that is simply not enough. let's speak to one of these supporters. what can you make a former mp, sometimes boys these supporters. what can you make a former mp, sometimes bostohnson was not answering the questions, we do not know whether he'll be in

place or if he resigns if you won't deliver brexit. lots of questions we re deliver brexit. lots of questions were posed tonight but there's only one question that matters of the moment. and that whether we are or not going to leave the european union. delays do not make deals but deadlines do and nothing else can happen until we have left the european union and boris can stop bringing forward his positive optimism plan for our country with his investment in schools, 20,000 on the street, infrastructure, particularly in the north of england, i'm from yorkshire, but the biggest question and the only real question that matters tonight, is getting out of the european union and we can move on to all the big pressing issues that face our country. rob watson has been watching. we are not sure why that played out, we do have vicki speaking into a play that clip in full and just a couple of

minutes' time. political correspondent, rob, good to see you. going short of time spent watching jeremy hunt or borisjohnson, what if you learned this evening? not very much, actually. if i was putting on my head is a tv critic, i thought it was feisty but tedious. but i have heard these two guys put their case so often. i do not think there was a clear winner, or a knockout blow or any particular moments and we did not learn a lot more about brexit and i think our collea g u es more about brexit and i think our colleagues sucked it up and summed it up rather nicely saying that boys johnson sang with the country needs now is someone who believes in brexit after the three years of theresa may's managerial approach and jeremy hunt saying that you cannot do this on a wing and a prayer, you need to be a details man. but from the brexit trail in 2016, if you get

your punchy single winds lined up, you don't necessarily need the details to follow to be very successful. another thing that he knows is that you have to remember the electorate is an hundred 60,000 conservative party members who don't really believe in brexit and do not care if there is no—deal brexit. in that sense, they are not like the rest of the electorate. so boys sense, they are not like the rest of the electorate. so bostohnson is absolutely spot on. one of the more interesting details on the press coffee in the uk was, jeremy hunt probably did not do enough to prevent boys johnson from becoming prime minister but he did illustrate why he may a very tough time when he does get into number ten. well the most read story on our website today was about brexit but it wasn't about the conservative party "brexit: labour to back remain as it calls for a new eu

referendum". the opposition leaderjeremy corbyn has challeneged whoever becomes pm to put their brexit plan to the people. here he is. we will give people the choice on this. that is surely something very important. we respect the results of the referendum, we have been to this whole long parliamentary process for the past three years and we have said and made it very clear that will do everything we can to take no deal of the table or stop a damaging deal of the sort that hunt and johnson are proposing. now this is a significant move, butjust to be clear, labour hasn't completely stopped sitting on the fence. here's a tweet from the guardian's patrick wintour. stewart wood who sits for labour in the house of lords is also

skeptical. as st augustine would have said, this is a very slowjourney to a referendum and we're not quite there yet in all circumstances. that is a pretty neat analysis. labour is moving, but i guess to put this really bluntly, is the labour party now an anti—brexit party? no, it is not. but in very well be moving in that direction. why this matters to eve ryo ne that direction. why this matters to everyone watching. every single change in the uk domestic scene, what has happened in the three years since the referendum is that the country is polarised. for more than

any of us might‘ve predicted and entirely on the lines of whether you are pro—brexit or anti—brexit. for a party to be in the middle is a very tricky place to be and the labour party is still somewhat in that awkward middle ground in british politics when it comes to this brexit issue. but it seems to be heading into the direction of being anti—brexit. whether that is a smart move or not, we will have to debate that another time or maybe now, ross. there are plenty of people within the labour party saying let's do this, let's back remain that the second referendum, whatever. what is the counterargument it is talking to jeremy corbyn saying that is not a good plan? you don't have to get too clever and sophisticated about this. those in the remain side and labour are saying look, this is nuts. we've got to be an anti—brexit party.

otherwise you're going to lose all of our remaining voters and most of our vote is for men, we're going to lose them to the liberal democratic party, which is absolutely pro—eu. but you have other saying to mr corbyn, the pro—brexit or respecting the result of the referendum saying, hello jeremy corbyn, the result of the referendum saying, hellojeremy corbyn, we're going to lose a third of our voters up and down the country who voted to leave during the 2016 referendum and that is why, it would thinks of mr corbyn, whatever one thinks about the conservative party, both of these parties that have dominated british politics for the last hundred years are just horribly split and face also it's of unpleasant decisions when it comes to where the positions themselves on brexit. live a camp that was once the biggest reception centre for asylum—seekers in europe has closed. it was called mineo, was in sicily, and at its peak housed more than 4000 migrants.

and no surprise, here's matteo salvini, italy's deputy prime minister, at the site earlier. he's leads the right—wing league party — and is the the driving force behind italy's tougher immigration policies. here's what what he told reporters. this was a promise i made not only to sicilians, but also to italians. not only the biggest migrant centre, a business with millions of euros became a place for nigerian mafia, smugglers, prostitution, iwas caught mad when i promised i would have shot it down. but i reduce the numberand have shot it down. but i reduce the number and reduced it again and i say we have zero migrants here. one of the reasons this centre can close is that far fewer migrants are reaching europe. the international organisation of migration says so far around 40,000 migrants have arrived this year. at the point last year that

number was over 140,000. we know migrant deaths at sea are down though still high — 681 people have died or gone missing this year. at this point last year, that figure was 2300. as you'd expect, matteo salvini claims his policies have delivered this shift. but they aren't the only reason. here's a representative from the un — he was speaking to one of my colleagues earlier. the numbers down because it's more difficult with conflict things that he make media, it is creating doubt and is more difficult for the smugglers to operate departure from libya. we have logistics on the militias protecting the trade and those protecting the government of national court.

now there has been a slight increase in arrivals since june. these people were among 44 rescued in the mediterranean on monday. the same rescue boat picked up 65 people last week, and handed them to malta. and these charity rescue boats are being targeted by the italian government. if they enter italian waters without permission, they face a fine of up to 50,000 euros. vessels also run the risk of being impounded. that happened to this charity boat, the alex. its captain is now under investigation. and matteo salvini has been announcing even tougher measures. here is danny aeberhard, europe analyst in the bbc newsroom. he has talked about new naval patrols to support his policy of impeding charity run rescue vessels from coming into italian points. it would help the coast guard and police boats to impede them. he has

also gotten in touch with the ministry and asking my controls have not been put in place in tunisia to prevent migration and looted the idea of using passenger ships to bring migrants back to north africa. his approach is popular. mr salvini's approach is popular. his league party got the most votes in italy's recent european elections. 34%. not everyone approves. italian newspapers report that pope francis won't meet matteo salvini because of the issue. here's the pope celebrating mass in st peter's basillica yesterday. it was a special mass just for migrants, and for people from organisations that help migrants. here's some of what he said. translation: these last ones are abandoned and cheated into dying in the dexter. they are abused and violated, they

face the ways of an unforgiving sea. these last ones are left in camps too long for their state to be called temporary. this, brothers and sisters, is by the tremendous responsibility of which no one is exempt. and it's notjust the pope who has concerns. here's the bbc‘s danny aeberhard again. humanitarian groups of set about the continuing danger of trying to repatriate people to libya, which is clearly a country of conflict. they say that italy is reaching its international humanitarian obligations by doing that in earlier this month, more than 40 migrants are killed in an air strike on a detention centre. as it marks its 100th birthday this

year, the british security and intelligence organisation is doing something that once would have been unthinkable. a new exhibition is bringing previously unseen artefacts into the public eye. our security correspondent gordon corera reports. the most secretive agency. they've been breaking codes and intercepting and securing communications. and now for the first time, it is revealing some of its secrets in a new exhibition. there are many items on display which have never been seen before. like this large machine used two secure messages and world war ii. and then over here, we have more modern examples. ranging from phone use by winston churchill, and a large briefcase phone used by

margaret thatcher during the war to issue instructions and finally a secure phone use by the queen described as gt hq bus was and finally a secure phone used by the queen, described as gchq's longest serving customers. this is the radio transmitter that was used by the krogers who were part of the falkland spy ring. this part of the exhibition deals with modern technology and the challenges and opportunities it poses for gchq. over here are parts for a quantum computer. such a computer in the future could be able to break previously unbreakable codes. over here are everyday items, so—called internet of things from people's houses. you have got a kettle, a door bell, you have got a doll called kayla, an interactive doll. the point being anything like this which is connected to the internet could be hacked. the last exhibit is called secret dust — ground—down particles of gchq computers. turning them to justice the only way to make previously classified data unreadable. there are, it seems, still some secrets gchq wants to keep.

this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is? conservative leadership rivals boris johnson and jeremy hunt have have been going head to head in a television debate. mexico's finance minister has unexpectedly quit — published his resignation letter on twitter. he blames inadequate staff and unwanted political influence. carlos oorzooa was seen as one of the key figures in mexico's new government. mundo. 33 countries from europe and the americas have made more than 200 arrests in a massive anti—doping operation. this is a lab in southern italy where doping substances including anabolic steroids were found. millions of dollars worth of drugs were siezed in the operation. world service english. bbc arabic‘s survey of people across the middle east and north africa has looked at attitudes to sex — and found that people feel less free to express themselves than they did

five years ago. that's having an impact on sex education. let's return to our top story and the debate between borisjohnson and jeremy hunt in the contest to be the uk's next prime minister. vicky young has been speaking to a supporter of the foreign secretary. the first and only had televised debate and there were some moments where it was getting a bit touchy there. we talked to a supporter of borisjohnson there. we talked to a supporter of boris johnson and that there. we talked to a supporter of borisjohnson and that speak now to the supporter ofjeremy hunt. boris johnson was a bit rude saying that you have no optimism and you are not someone you have no optimism and you are not someone who really believes in brexit you'll just be someone who really believes in brexit you'lljust be the same managerial leader may. boris is full of laughs and blustar saw that tonight. jeremy hunt was strong on the fact and details. but he also had some telling

blows. he played the full a bit once again, boris, andjeremy the full a bit once again, boris, and jeremy was putting his plans forward and a lot of details. jeremy i think when i'm points. he came out swinging and he definitely landed some heavy blows and overall, i think you won the contest on points. but i do not think there was a knockout blonde either side. people talk by borisjohnson's character and he does seem to win over people in the audience. the way he talks, he may bejoking in the audience. the way he talks, he may be joking about it, but it does seem to be carrying a lot of people the conservative party who do have a vote in this. jeremy started a long way behind in this contest. they were convinced that boris was the layperson — — they were convinced that boris was the layperson —— right person, so jeremy has been taking up ground ever since the first day of the contest. members are switching to him, and quite big numbers but has he gotten out right majority

was mac no. he still has much more to do. but this shows jeremy in a different light. i think they've saw someone who was tough and prepared to speak his mind, was prepared to take boris johnson toe to toe, and he was able to land some telling blows as a part of that. but that was a very good debate and also for members to see. they're still about 50% of those schools still have yet to vote, so that can be a contest changing debate if people think theyjeremy hunt is done as well as i do. a few tough words are donald trump. he spoke out quite forcefully. is there a warrior that if he is to be prime minister, there is going to be a problem with president donald trump? if you go back a few years, boris johnson has said some very unfavorable things about president donald trump. what jeremy did unfavorable things about president donald trump. whatjeremy did as unfavorable things about president donald trump. what jeremy did as far as foreign secretary of speak up for his country and speak up for the prime minister and he did his country and speak up for the prime ministerand he did it his country and speak up for the prime minister and he did it in a

very polite way, but a very tough way. i think someone like president trump understand that because he was not discourteous or rude to president trump and i feel trump likes a good negotiator, someone who speaks their mind but, obviously, jeremy hunt does not want to step over the line because they are a great ally and we need the united states if we are going to get a great trade deal. is the main problem forjeremy hunt because he wa nts a problem forjeremy hunt because he wants a definitely we will leave the eu on the 31st of october as far as tray party goes, that's it really. that is all they want. coming out of the 31st of october is a big point for conservative party members, but if you look into tonight plus plus debate, they are clear that they can't really definitely, 100% deliver on that. in ourjeremy is doing is being honest is if it takes a few more days, an extra week or so to get it over the line, that

he will take that time. but he will make a decision when his negotiating team at the end september. negotiations will stop and we will be full pelt towards a no deal. so jeremy has got this right and i think boris needs to think very carefully about having that dead—end of the 31st of october if he is close to a deal. two weeks today, we will know who the new leader of the tory party is and our new prime minister. whilst conservative commentator tim montgomerie says

different angles on this, needless to say it and get plenty more via the bbc journalist to say it and get plenty more via the bbcjournalist commenting on twitter and will be back tomorrow at the same time. thank you for watching. goodbye. i have to admit. i prefer nature to ta ke i have to admit. i prefer nature to take over for me and some of you got some natural help in the past 24 hours but across southern areas, the weather systems have been pushing to the northern half of the uk. coming around the city of low pressure on the atlantic, that is the case but the atlantic, that is the case but the pressure lowers a little bit in creating a chance of one or two showers and more will be missed and hit and brighter day in england, but a lot of cloud for scotland and

northern ireland and that we have a few more glimpses of sunshine but that shall remain which later in the day will be humidity that comes into the country and thunderstorms and eastern parts of scotland in particular, 25 degrees as the high in the southeast corner and it will bea in the southeast corner and it will be a muddy night to take us through thursday but there a greater chance of some rain waiting in the wings if you are still hoping for that garden to get a bit of a downpour. also to push its way in as low pressure moves in whiteley for thursday, so showers in greater chance across the south compared to the rainfall may va ry south compared to the rainfall may vary widely and staying largely dry and quite humid a particular across southern and eastern areas in northern england we could see some severe thunderstorms and thursday and going to thursday night. they will go into low—pressure systems to the east of the uk and we bring the winds to the northwest, but very

mastery of the sunshine, southern eastern areas with low pressure setting off a few showers here and there and most prone to some isolated showers across the west of england in north wales. still, pleasa nt england in north wales. still, pleasant and the sunshine with temperatures into the 20s are quite a few of you but not quite as warm as it has been. is he going to the weekend, distractibility and, on the eastern flank of that neck and bring some cloud and eastern parts of england with one or two showers possible further west, we can see a sunny start with a cloud build up and spread out to the day. so will be best in the morning in the afternoon looking a little bit cloudy about the windstream to fall later in the west, it will feel as lu kewa rm later in the west, it will feel as lukewarm once more with temperatures around levels be for the time of year. high—pressure system builds in us are year. high—pressure system builds in us are going to sunday, it will have a bit ofa us are going to sunday, it will have a bit of a northeasterly flow coming in across these assembly on the southeast and i can bring us a bit of cloud and completely rule out the shower, but strong sunshine and

light winds and any showers so you see are very few in number. so many of you back to the watering can is because of the weekend, temptress creeping up more widely in the low to mid—20s. as we go into the following week, particularly the position of the jet stream which is taking this big meandering pattern. high—pressure builds under that and on this little dip southwards, the slow pressure. because there is no vigorous change in the jet, high—pressure remains but what happens to the week is a bit?. if upon some very warm and sundry air or go back to square one with more widespread showers. as a going to next week, doesn't like it will continue with the dry sunny weather for the weekend. the pressure may not be strong enough to stop any showers, all showers should say but later on the week, a slow change potentially more widespread showers the rain which is in the south may be thundering. i will keep you updated.

britain's next prime minister — the two men vying for the job clash over brexit, leadership and personality in a live tv debate. both borisjohnson and jeremy hunt insisted they were the right man to take britain out of the eu but they argued over the detail of when and how. he has been once again escalating the fears over no—deal brexit when what we should be doing is getting ready and encouraging the people of this country to believe they can do it because they can do it. being prime minister is about telling people what they need to hear, not

just what they want to hear and you are peddling optimism. two different men and different styles but in two weeks one of them will be our next prime minister. we'll be analysing the debate and asking if there was a winner. also tonight... president trump is accused of being wrong and disrespectful as he steps up his attack on theresa may and the british ambassador to washington, calling him a stupid guy. jeremy corbyn calls on the next prime minister to hold a second referendum before taking britain out of the eu and says labour will campaign to remain. britain's ethnicity pay gap workers earned on average 4% less than their white counterparts last year. and more success for andy murray and serena williams at wimbledon but the dream's over for britjohanna konta. coming up... rain stops play with

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