tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News July 12, 2019 10:00am-11:00am BST
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hello. it's ten o'clock, i'm joanna gosling. new tools for police in the fight against online child abusers — the home secretary reveals technology that will help officers manage the growing numbers of images of abuse. you could describe it as a game changer in that it means that more of the victims will be protected. but also, just as importantly, more of these vile paedophiles will be caught and taken through the courts. this will be presented as evidence and i hope more will be locked up behind bars where they belong. we'll be talking to the nspcc and a social worker about whether the new technology will help safeguard victims. greater manchester police apologise after a public inquiry finds that
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serious failings in the force led to the fatal shooting of antony grainger, an unarmed man, in march 2012. i thought, what do you mean, been shot? we don't live in america. and then he said the police did it. and i just collapsed. that is antony grainger‘s partner. we will be talking to her. also, one marathon is normally enough for most people, but double amputee david williamson is tackling 30 of them in 30 days to raise money for his favourite charities. he'll take a quick break from his 29th to talk to us live. really, really tough. exhausting. but we got through it and, tomorrow, we go again and that's just...that‘s the way it is. it is what it is.
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hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. bbc technology correspondent rory cellanjones has been keeping a video diary of the proton beam therapy he's had to treat an eye tumour. he'll be on later on to talk about it and many of you have been tweeting your support. tim on twitter says "i had that every day for 6 weeks, with the mesh mask, it was like dr crippin‘s horror chamber!" john on twitter says: cancer hits so many of us in so many different and horrible ways, but the care we receive and the manner in which awesome nhs folk deliver it is truly amazing. all the best! alexander on twitter says: all the very best, rory — your passion about science is such an inspiration to so many. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — first, rachel schofield has the news. good morning. the home secretary, sajid javid, has given his backing to the police in their trials of facial recognition software, which is designed to help spot suspects in public places.
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mrjavid was speaking at the launch of new computer technology which makes use of artificial intelligence to speed up analysis of child abuse images. critics say facial recognition is inaccurate and unregulated — but the home secretary is confident about the trials. i think it will make a huge difference. you could describe it as a game changer in that it means that more of the victims will be protected. but also, just as importantly, more of these vile paedophiles will be caught and taken through the courts. this will be presented as evidence and i hope more will be locked up behind bars where they belong. the us military says it's trying to put together a coalition to protect commercial shipping in the gulf — after the royal navy had to intervene to help a british tanker which was being confronted by iranian vessels. rising tensions with iran have led to uk merchant vessels being placed on the highest security
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alert near the strait of hormuz. the narrow waterway is of crucial economic importance because it carries a fifth of the world's oil exports. four british people in a group of foreign teachers and students have been arrested in eastern china. at least some of those being held are from an international language school, education first. police injiangsu province said all 16 foreigners had tested positive for illegal drug use. police investigating the murder of a pregnant woman in south london have arrested a 25—year—old man. kelly mary fauvrelle was attacked at her home in croydon last month. her baby son was delivered by paramedics but also died. r kelly is facing further sex crime allegations. the singer has been arrested in chicago. he's previously denied a number of sexual assault and abuse charges, including against underage girls. thomas cook is in talks with a chinese investor about a possible rescue deal. the holiday company says it is in advanced discussions with fosun, which owns club med
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and wolverhampton wanderers football club. if it goes ahead, the chinese investor would buy the firm's tour business. the mayor of new orleans has warned that a tropical storm moving towards the coast of louisiana could bring 48 hours of continuous rain. the region has already suffered flash flooding and storm barry could become a hurricane when it makes landfall. residents have been warned to seek shelter or leave new orleans. the low—lying city was devastated by hurricane katrina in 2005. at least 35 people have been injured after severe turbulence on an air canada flight which was forced to make an emergency landing. the boeing 777 aircraft, from vancouver to sydney, hit trouble around two hours beyond hawaii and diverted back to the capital honolulu. the aircraft was carrying 269 passengers and 15 crew members. heatwaves in the indian ocean have killed more than two—thirds of corals in the chagos islands injust two years.
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researchers from the zoological society of london also found that some corals were more resilient to rising temperatures, which could provide hope for reefs as the planet warms up. hard corals provide homes to around a quarter of all marine species. the netball world cup is under way in liverpool. hopes are high that england can end five decades of dominance by the reigning world champions, australia, and win the tournament for the first time. that's the latest news — back to you, joanna. just 25 years ago, there were thousands of indecent images of children in circulation. today a database of images of child abuse used by police has 13 million pictures — and is growing by another million every four months. now it's been announced that police forces across the uk will have access to new tools which it's claimed will help the fight
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against online child abusers. one of the new tools will be able to scan suspects‘ hard drives, rapidly analysing the images found and comparing them against the database. a search that would have taken 2a hours before will now take 30 minutes. the tools will also be able to grade and sort images before officers have to see them — the first step in police officers being saved the pyschological pressures of viewing this kind of material. let's speak now to andy burrows, who is the nspcc‘s head of child safety 0nline policy; becky reynolds, a social worker and professional officer for the british association of social workers; and abhilash nair — who is a senior lecturer from aston law school who specialises in internet law including the regulation of illegal content. he also recently published a book on the regulation of internet pornography. andy, those statistics are mind—blowing, how big the database is now and how quickly it is going.
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where are these images coming from? well, potentially hundreds of thousands of people in the uk have accessed child abuse images. last year we saw 2a,000 offences, one every 20 minutes across the country. so there is a constant effort to try and identify child abuse images once they have been posted online. they are then put into a database. but we also know that many images will come when police seized a suspect‘s device. 0ften, when police seized a suspect‘s device. often, they will see is a device. often, they will see is a device and open it up and that opens up device and open it up and that opens upa device and open it up and that opens up a pandora's box where thousands of images might be stored. how transformative could of images might be stored. how tra nsformative could this of images might be stored. how transformative could this new technology be in assessing these images? this is an important part of what has to be a much wider solution. as you were saying, the ability to triage images, suspects may have thousands of images on their phones. so to be able to scan them quickly is important. and to prioritise them. yes, to be able to
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quickly identify whether we are talking about the most severe types of child abuse imagery and to try and thread together investigations. u nfortu nately, we and thread together investigations. unfortunately, we know that we are often talking about thousands of photographs that will have been taken of children at different times in different locations. so this technology will help to thread together what can be complex investigations. can that be done at the moment? if it is down to individuals, how much can they ci’oss— reference 7 individuals, how much can they cross- reference? at individuals, how much can they cross-reference? at present, with the scale of cases police are having to deal with and the fact that a lot of this has to be done manually, it isa of this has to be done manually, it is a long and slow process. what is important about today is that technology will speed this up and help the police to be more on the front foot investigations and it will make sure that children can be safeguarded. the children who have been victims of abuse can be identified and get the support they need. becky, when we are talking about images on such a large scale, obviously, each of those children,
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thatis obviously, each of those children, that is an individual tragedy. tell us that is an individual tragedy. tell us about the work you do, without being specific, but the sort of typical encounters you would have with a child who has been subject to this and the impact on the family. obviously, social workers work closely with the police when we are made aware of images. so this technology will speed up that process and hopefully identify children quicker, which means they can be safeguarded at a faster pace. so once a child is identified, is it social workers that visit the family? it would be socialworkers and the police. other professionals would be involved. it is a multi—agency approach with a team of professionals around the child. we need to think about the child in the images, the child being abused. but there may be other children, so the person taking or viewing the images may have children who we need to
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support as well. so time is of the essence in getting to these kids to prevent further abuse? absolutely. as soon as information comes through to children services from the police, there would be a strategy discussion which plans how, as a multi—agency, we can safeguard a child as quickly as possible. andy, how often is it happening that kids are being identified and people like becky are going into the families with police and following up? well, children's services across the uk are doing an incrediblejob. but the scale of the problem here, we know police and children's services are facing an unprecedented number of referrals because of the extent of this problem, particularly the fact that images can be distributed
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online, it means that the internet affords a new opportunities to access and create this material. this problem has intensified in terms of its severity. abhilash, we are talking about this new technology, which can be transformative. the technology, which can be tra nsformative. the home technology, which can be transformative. the home secretary says it is a game changer. do you have any concerns about the fallibility of that technology? well, i am actually quite supportive of the use of technology in trying to identify victims and perpetrators of child abuse imagery, as andy mentioned. but the scale of the problem makes it next to impossible for the police to manually go through each image. part of the problem is a lot of the images are duplicates of existing images, so there is a lot of time wasted going through thousands of photographs of which 5% will be images that have
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already been identified and the child rescued. so the energy has to be focused on identifying new images so be focused on identifying new images so that hitherto unknown children who are abused can be rescued. but you asked me about concerns with technology. we need to be aware that technology. we need to be aware that technology is not foolproof. it is easy to get complacent about it. as the technology currently stands, a level of human intelligence has to be used. for example, the software can categorise images but when it comes to prosecution, a decision has to be made involving a police officer making decisions as to prosecution. in terms of knocks on the door arising from this material being collated, would you expect that to increase as a result of this technology and how quickly images will be able to be sifted and cross—referenced?
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will be able to be sifted and cross-referenced? certainly. child abuse imagery is a global problem. we are only talking about the uk here. the technology will enable police forces in this country to collaborate to rescue children. but bearin collaborate to rescue children. but bear in mind that less than 1% of all child abuse websites are hosted in the uk. similar initiatives exist elsewhere. for example, interpol has a child abuse image database which law enforcement officers across different jurisdictions use, which is the best way to identify children who are based in other jurisdictions. going back to your original question regarding concerns, original question regarding concerns, there is a broader question about the impact of this database on the victims themselves. there is one school of thought which argues that victims can still be
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affected by the knowledge that the images can be seen by somebody, even though those people viewing the images are police with legitimate reasons. we need to continue innovating to make sure that going forward , innovating to make sure that going forward, the technology grows to a point that these images can be stored in a nonvisual format. but thatis stored in a nonvisual format. but that is something for the future. thank you all forjoining us. still to come... we're celebrating some really epic sport this morning. england's men's cricketers are heading into theirfirst world cup final for 27 years. and it must be every mum and dads worst nightmare — we talk to the parents of three—year—old sam tuckett who disappeared down a 20 foot hole during a family walk in the peak district. sam suffered a serious head injury, but survived and is now doing well.
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the bbc‘s technology correspondent rory cellan—jones has been having treatment for a melanoma in his eye. he's received proton beam therapy at clatterbridge hospital in the wirral, the only place to offer this treatment in the uk. he kept a video diary of his experience of the innovative treatment. he's with us now. rory, tell us when you realised you had a tumour? this goes back a long way. i was diagnosed in 2005 and had some treatment than at marlfield hospital in london at what was called a radioactive plaque inserted behind my eye. they then monitor you carefully. and every now and then, they talk about new treatment. they sent me for this radical treatment where people with this incredibly rare condition come from all over the country. they reckon something like seven and a million people each year get diagnosed with this. that is under 500, and quite a lot of them end up coming to the centre for a week because my treatment. this is obviously a health issue for you,
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but i guess you had your technology hat on as well when you went in and realised how extraordinary the technology is that was used on you? yeah. i knew nothing about proton beam therapy until this was suggested to me. then i arrived at this place, which is basically a scientific outpost. it's an amazing tea m scientific outpost. it's an amazing team there. they have doctors and radiographers, but also actual nuclear physicists running it, and they are incredibly enthusiastic, kind and caring. i want to show some of their work. so you have made a video diary of the work. yeah, i did most of the filming myself. my wife took one of the shots, and you can hear one of the physicists. i got him to hold the camera for part of it and he was incredibly enthusiastic. let's have a look. i'm in a hotel on the wirral and i'm
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about to begin a week of proton—beam therapy on this eye at clatterbridge hospital, which is the only place in the uk where you can really get this done. it's for a longstanding problem dating back 14 years. today is day one, which is a kind of testing—out day. i caught a taxi to the hospital and my first appointment was with dr errington, who explained the procedure. that's the front of your eye and the lens. right. this is the optic nerve representation. right. and this is the melanoma. so we're in the treatment room for our rehearsal day, really, for my treatment on this eye. this is the eye behind which there is melanoma. it's been there... it was first treated 14 years ago, but it now needs further treatment because there are signs that it's growing again.
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so we are going to have a little look at what the equipment is. this is the seat where i am going to be treated. and this is the machine which will fire the proton beam into my eye and, behind it, on the other side of that wall, is the cyclotron, which is apparently a great big machine. we're going to find out whether we can actually have a look at that. so i'm now wearing a red coat, because that is protection against radiation. going right into the heart of the machine now. time to come face—to—face with the cyclotron which will blast protons into my eye. having to wait while a radiation check is made. i'm going to be the other side of that. that wall‘s 5m thick. 5m thick wall, room
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and the protons... the protons go along the aluminium pipe there. this is the only place in the country where you can get proton—beam therapy for the eye. it was built in the late ‘80s. i will be treated the other side of that wall. are you ready, then? 0k. just lean all the way back for us. position is excellent. so its day two, the day of the actual first treatment. i'm going in for my first session of proton—beam therapy. it's for real this time. it's nicholas rory cellan—jones. and can you confirm which eye you are expecting this drop to go in. i'm hoping it's in the left one. perfect, ok. if you could just lean your head back, please. now just lower your lower lid for me. here we go. okey—dokey. there we go.
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all right, i'll be back with you in a few minutes' time, ok? oh, boy. yes. how's that? that's smarting a little. smarting a little. ok, so go and have a seat for us. just be careful with your head as you sit there. ah. and now we get the hannibal lecter—style mask. exactly. you're not hungry, though, are you? head back, head back. there we are. can you see this red light here? yeah. keep looking towards that for me. the team retire to mission control to monitor the procedure. right, rory, keep looking towards the red light. off we go. siren-like noise.
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the actual beaming lasts exactly 31 seconds. i see a strange blue light, but feel nothing. well done, you are all done there. is that all right? yep, perfect. it's the following morning. the eye's feeling ok. tiny bit irritable, a bit sort of sticky, but all right. so it's on to the next round of proton beam. buzzing monotone. so, very much the same again. that's day two done. same procedure. not painful, but slightly constricting being in that headset. i'm going to go home and have a bit of a rest. buzzing. by day three, it was becoming a familiar process. so that is day three of proton treatment done.
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all going well and we're now going to have an explanation from a man who's been working here for quite a while. so this is on a different scale. a bit like a large hadron collider in the wirral! yeah, except it's colliding with your eye! that's actually quite correct. these particles — nuclear particles actually meeting your eye — and they are doing a lot of damage to the tumour in a very precise way. so it's friday. it's the last day of treatment. we've all been staying — the other patients and me, who are attending this hospital — at a local hotel and there's been a great sense of camaraderie, strangely. it kind of feels like the last day of term. so off i go for my final session. walking in for the last time. a little bit closer.
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buzzing monotone. i've just come out. i've got a souvenir. it's all over. it's been an extraordinary, interesting week. um, and let's hope it works. that's all from here. now there's a six—week wait and then doctors at moorfields hospital in london will assess just how much damage has been done to the tumour. rory, that's amazing. i know you obviously found it fascinating because you love all things technology. but how is your eye now? it feels fine. i will go back to moorfields, where i have been treated for many years, and they expect it to have shrivelled, the tumour. it will be under constant monitoring, but that is a fantastic centre. i can't give them more
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praise, it's just centre. i can't give them more praise, it'sjust extraordinary. and they obviously love you, you had a nuclear physicist filming! he was wielding the camera, yes! you have beenin wielding the camera, yes! you have been in the news because of your parkinson's diagnosis. you have had a tough time, and you are doing amazing things in talking about these things in a way that would demystify things that people find frightening. yeah, the eye thing is a rare condition. parkinson's is also not understood, so it's important to get the information out there and to show that you can carry on working and doing yourjob with these conditions. i also feel a great need to give support to the amazing health workers behind this kind of therapy. and you're clutching your souvenir! thank you for coming in. rory‘s video diary is online if you want to see it again. yes, it really did happen. england are into the final having lived up to their pre—tournament billing as favourites
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with a thumping win over australia — and will now play new zealand on sunday. despite england's success, and the fact that the tournament has taken place here in the uk, only a small proportion of the country has actually been able to watch the sport live, as it's only been shown on sky's sports channels. average viewers for the england group games were around half a million. sunday's final will be available to everyone, though — sky will broadcast it on terrestrial tv on channel 4 and more4. let's talk to the former england world cup winner and surrey cricketer ebony rainford—brent, jonathan agnew, who's been commentating on england's spectacular performance, and england cricket fan gemma gray, who was at yesterday's game and is desperately trying to get tickets for sunday's match. thank you all forjoining us. jonathan, mike atherton, in the times today, says its 9969 days since england's men's cricket team last played in the world cup final. it was 27 years ago. you only need
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to read that to know the hurt that there has been over those years and there has been over those years and the excitement that there is right now. yeah, and that is the length of timei now. yeah, and that is the length of time i have been doing thisjob! no, it has been quite a roller—coaster since then. and mainly of great disappointment, to be honest. i have been chatting these one—day games since then. there have been one or two victories, but this one has a lwa ys two victories, but this one has always remained elusive. and not to have appeared in a final for so long was a pretty point that meant of where england were in this form of the game. only four years ago, they we re the game. only four years ago, they were chucked out of the world cup before even the qualifying stage. so too have turned things around in that short time and learned a lot from that world cup. it was a horrible lesson, and funnily enough, the lesson they learned from new zealand, who they are playing on
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sunday in the final, it was the lesson they learned from them which has transformed the way that england play their one—day cricket. so we say thank you to new zealand for that, but we are going to beat you on sunday. ebony, you were in the england cup winning team. what is it like and what advice have you got for the boys? it's an incredible thing. from an athlete because my perspective, you spend your whole life working towards this unbelievable moment and it is even more rare to have that opportunity on home soil. we won the world t20 at home at lord's. the women won in 2017 at lord's. if the men can bring this together, from an athlete's perspective, it doesn't get better. home world cup, you have built through that whole period. i think they are aware of that, and they are also aware about the potential of bringing could get back to public consciousness. it is something that has been distant for a long time and
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if england make that success, we could see an absolute revolution in this country around the sport. gemma, you were there yesterday and i know you are desperately trying to get a ticket for the final. have you managed to get one? no, i am consta ntly managed to get one? no, i am constantly refreshing the ticket web page to see if i can get tickets. if not, we will have to find a location nearby to watch it, but fantastic that it will be on channel 4, which means that so many more people will have access to the final on sunday. small children could grow up to be the next ebony and will want to have cricket as an inspiration to them. that is incredible. 2005 was the la st that is incredible. 2005 was the last time they had cricket on freeview television. jonathan, what is the transformational power of something like this? in so many spots, we are seeing england doing
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incredibly well these days in a way that when i was a kid, there was not that when i was a kid, there was not that expectation. they are very high. as you pointed out, there has been a whole generation of people who have never seen generation of people who have never seen england pay cricket on the telly, that was a decision the administrators took into thousand five. do you take the substantial money that sky offered exclusively to be invested in the sport in other ways, or do you try to keep contact with the young kids you want to encourage into the game? they are playing catch—up, in a way. it will be free to see on sunday, well done sky, they have all these subscribers that they had done that and i am sure they have realised it is in their interests and in the interests of cricket that this is a spark, this is the beginning of a new impetus for cricket in this country.
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it isa impetus for cricket in this country. it is a fantastic sport which is u nfortu nately it is a fantastic sport which is unfortunately out of reach full up to have people for too long, and if england can show what they can do and generate some new heroes for youngsters watching then that is a massive step to take. there is the ashes after this, it is a once—in—a—lifetime summer and the decision by sky and everyone else to get this on two free to view tv is a very big step in the right direction. thank you all forjoining us, and good luck, england. you can watch it on channel 4, more for and listen on radio 5 live. the head of greater manchester police has apologised for the first time to the family of anthony grainger, an unarmed man who was shot to death in a car by one of its armed police officers. a public inquiry yesterday found that the force was to blame after serious failings in its firearms unit. detectives believed mr grainger and two others were planning to hold up a supermarket and had access to firearms. no weapons were found in the car. in a highly critical report, a judge said the police had been
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cavalier and that they had collated flawed intelligence during the botched operation leading to grainger‘s death. we first brought you this story in 2017 when we ran an investigation in greater manchester police's firearms unit. in a moment, we'll speak to anthony grainger‘s partner gail, but first, here's a clip of the film by simon cox. anthony grainger was 36. he had two young children and worked as a car mechanic. he lived in manchester with his partner gail. and i remember he's coming back in and actually sitting there and thinking my life's perfect. i actually remember. and then, um, then he nipped out. and he...didn't come home. this is bbc radio 5 live. a man who was shot dead last night in cheshire after the car he was in was stopped by officers from greater manchester police in a preplanned operation.
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it happened in the village of culcheth, near warrington. two men were arrested at the scene. the victim was anthony grainger. he'd been found guilty of handling stolen cars, but had no convictions for violence. the other men in a car were a different story. they did have convictions for violence, and the police saw one as a very dangerous criminal. it was early saturday evening back in march 2012 when armed officers swooped into this car park in unmarked cars. they were aiming for the corner, which is where anthony grainger was sitting in the driver's seat. and what happened next is disputed. the police say that when they got here, anthony had raised and then lowered his arms. they were worried that he was going for a gun. one of the officers fired a shot and killed him. we've talked to one of the other passengers in the car. they said there was no warning. they didn't know it was armed police. the first thing they knew was a shot had could come through the windscreen
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and had killed anthony. what is clear is that anthony grainger didn't have a gun — neither did anyone else in the car. 7.30, eight o'clock in the morning, there was somebody knocking on the door. so i came out. i opened the door. i thought he'd forgotten his keys. and it was one of his friends and his friend, just stood there looking at me. and they just went, "he's been shot." i thought, what do you mean, been shot? we don't live in america. and then he said the police did it. and i just collapsed. um... but i didn't... didn't believe it, even up until i'd seen his body. gail hadfield—grainger, who you saw briefly in that film, says that greater manchester police had failed to apologise for anthony's death, even after yesterday's damning report. she called them out on this
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yesterday outside the court. it's taken seven years, but today somejustice has been done. this devastating report shows that... that antony‘s death was caused by a litany of catastrophic failures by greater manchester police in 2012. it could have, and it should have been prevented. the enquiry has also exposed that even now, greater manchester police is unfit... ..to control firearms operations. this is a scandal which places other people's lives at risk. we have waited seven years for an apology from the chief constable, but yet we're still waiting. yesterday evening, when being interviewed by the bbc, greater manchester police's chief constable ian hopkins offered a personal apology to the family. he said "ourfailings have led
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to anthony grainger‘s death and caused unimaginable harm to his family. "for that i am sincerely sorry." we can speak now to gail hadfield—granger, anthony grainger‘s partner. thank you forjoining us. how do you react to the apology that came last night? i am shocked it has taken seven years, foui’ night? i am shocked it has taken seven years, four months and eight days to apologise, but i recognise it and if it is a sincere apology and he accepts the criticism is in this report then i think now is a time for change. he has also said he would like to meet you and the family personally, has that offer come through to you directly yet, and would you like to meet him?|j received and would you like to meet him?” received that offer this morning through my legal team and that is definitely something i would like to do. i would also like to meet the home secretary and find out what he
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proposes to do to meet cell make these changes. anthony's mother marina said the inquiry revealed levels of ineptitude that was staggering even in terms of what you had expected. as you have gone on over the seven years, culminating in yesterday, how have you felt when you have learned more and more about what happened ? you have learned more and more about what happened? one thing that has really stood out to me, we have had the documents the judge had as well which has been handled by greater manchester police, we have seen these failures, these cover—ups, that they are trying to provoke the course of justice, we that they are trying to provoke the course ofjustice, we have seen all this. so to sit and listen to the judge say in open court for the greater manchester police to have to hear and listen and realise that this cannot be something to let this cannot go on. greater manchester
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police firearms unit is not fit for purpose, it needs to be a full shake—up and i hope this report will do that. police issued a statement yesterday on behalf of the force, singly undertake to take each of these findings and criticism of the utmost care reflection, we will assess what more can be done now and in the future to further improve the safety of firearms operations. is that enough, do you trust the force? when they return to court in 2018 they made a statement saying they don't need to learn lessons, it is printed on the report because the judge found it shocking, they do not need to learn lessons because lessons have been learnt already, but the report shows there is so much more they need to learn, so much more they need to learn, so much more they need to learn, so much more action to take and it should not take another seven years. they need to strike while the iron is hot, these changes need to be made to make people safe on the
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streets of manchester. obviously you have been grieving, you have been through terrible personal trauma, and during the course of the time that has unfolded since anthony was shutdown she had studied for two law degrees and had spent a lot of time and money doing that. why did you do that? initially i was finding it very ha rd to that? initially i was finding it very hard to understand the legal jargon, the next steps and i wanted to give this whole inquiry and this fight the best possible fighting chance i could, and the way i felt i could do that would be by studying law and seeing what is right and wrong, because sometimes the public have a different outlook on what is right and wrong as do the police, which is understandable. so for me, i have done this because i want to give this the best fighting chance and then i want to prevent this from
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happening again in the future. do you think it has made a difference in fighting for justice for anthony? given the apologies we received today, i feel we have given the apologies we received today, ifeel we have to given the apologies we received today, i feel we have to everything we possibly could, and i want to thank my legal team, they have left no stone unturned and have been so supportive and done everything, and the inquest as well, and one thing i would like to put out is if somebody has to go through what we have gone through as a family, the first steps they need to take its to contact the inquest, they are so knowledgeable and they are there to help. you have said you want operational changes in the police and you would like to see corporate manslaughter charges brought against greater manchester police. what would you like to see? ideally corporate manslaughter charges brought to the whole of gmp, and the home office and home
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secretary to set down in state what he will do. this is a major report with major failing throughout, he will do. this is a major report with majorfailing throughout, i think the term failure or failed is used over 200 times in the report in regards to gmp's operations and the way they deal with intelligence, briefings and everything. i would like to see these massive changes made, i would like systemic changes to be made and i would like to see not only lessons to be learned, we can all learn a lesson, but it is putting the learning into practice. and you said you want to meet the home secretary, have you had any successful contact? my legal team is working around the clock to ensure this happens, not only for me but for other bereaved families who have had to go through the same kind of ordeal. thank you so much for joining us this morning. more than three quarters of adults
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in the uk own a smartphone — and the number of young children with access to gadgets and the internet is on the rise. that is being so connected necessarily a good thing? last summer plans for the uk's first nhs backed internet addiction centre were announced — but we've been told that more than a year later, those plans have been delayed. well, one country where the government already funds treatment for internet addiction is in the world's most connected nation — south korea. newsround's de'graft mensah has been to meet young people at a camp especially for teenagers addicted to the internet. there's a lot of people with internet addictions in korea. i watch youtube literally every single day for 18 hours. this is an opportunity for me to fix my problems. pretty much everyone in south korea has a smartphone
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and access to the internet. it's the most connected country in the world. that might sound great, but it can be a big problem. official figures for last year show that over 140,000 young people here were addicted to the internet. but some reports suggest that number could be much higher. i'm on my way to a camp in a place where teenagers go for help to get offline. it's why there are centres like this one across south korea. the aim is to help prevent young people from developing an internet addiction. since 2014, over 1200 teenagers have been to camps here. this person is 17 and addicted to youtube. she wanted to come here after realising she spent way too much time online. come in. hi, thank you. the camp has strict rules. no phones are allowed. all the rules here are like you can't use your phone or go alone. so we tend to keep that promise.
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i watch youtube literally every single day and, during the days, i watch it for 18 hours. 18 hours? take the phone with me to the bathroom, or, eating, i'lljust hold it and i will eat. and, "i'lljust watch it for one hour," but then it goes on and on and on and then when i look at the clock, i will say, "18 hours, oh, my god." so it's a bit hard to stop. it affected my school studies and, when ourfriends met, we only did our phone and not talk to each other. i fell asleep in school. i would be like sleepy, sleepy, sleepy. i would be like mad at people for no reason. and then i'll be like happy on one side and bad on one side. and i'll be like, "i have to fix this." this is the bed for three of us. this is my bed.
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this my friend's, is the teacher's bed. i came here because of my internet addiction. i wanted to overcome that addiction to look around my surroundings and notjust the phone. korean working or studying it's really hard. it's really, really hard. i don't think anyone can contain that stress. so i think they use their smartphones to de—stress. she isn't alone. she's one of ten girls at this camp. some of the others are here because they struggle to stop using their phones and spend a lot of time taking selfies and using social media. depending on how serious their internet or smartphone problem is, they stay for between one and four weeks. on the first day, they said we're going to collect your phone. and i was like, "oh, my god, i'm going to die without my phone. but then, as the days went on, i was like, "oh, it's not bad. i don't need my phone any more."
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translation: they really struggle. some of them say they want to go home. from the moment they hand it in, they have a very hard time. a lot of the time is spent trying to make them feel better about themselves. many young people who come here might be confident online if they get a lot of likes and social media, or do well in the game, but, in real life, they might really struggle. all the activities here are designed to get them out of the digital world and back into the real world. they have counselling sessions, as well as doing crafts, playing games and sport. today, the group is making soap to give to elderly people in the community. it smells very nice. i got a bit too much stressed, so i got into youtube videos. so when i watch them, i'm like happy and, like, i'm in another world. translation: here, we try to give them alternatives to the internet, games and social media.
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so, when we run a camp, we try lots of different activities to show the teenagers that they can have more self—worth and confidence outside of the cyber world. and it is a problem which is taken seriously here. it's the government which pays for camps like this one. translation: our camp isn't very long, but our counsellors and the teenagers know for themselves when to stop using their phone. it's notjust about cutting down the habit, but planting a seed so their attitude changes. when you leave here, do you think you will use your phone less? i might, maybe, take that time from 18 hours to ten hours and spend more time with my family instead of my phone. and go outside, take a hike, so i can enjoy life without my phone, without the stress.
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that has got us talking. there's much more about that story and others, including asia's most expensive football player and what it's like to escape from north korea, on the newsround website. they've done a whole series of special reports from south korea. the parents of a three—year—old boy have described their horror when he vanished down a hole while walking in the peak district, leaving him with life—threatening injuries. sam tuckett was enjoying a family day out when he suddenly disappeared as he was walking with his six—year—old brother oscar, just a few steps ahead of his parents louise and mark. they've been telling me what happened. we were out walking as a family, and our two elder boys were in front of us and suddenly, sam just disappeared and mark and ijust
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looked at each other and said, "where did sam go?", thinking he might have tripped orfallen a bit. then we realised we couldn't see him anywhere, so we just ran towards him and we saw a gap in the ground that was 40 centimetres wide between two deep, big cliffs, and looked down and sam was at the bottom of them. he had fallen through this gap about six metres down onto the rocks. was he conscious, could you communicate with him? no, he was too far down. he had fallen on his head and it was very difficult at that point to communicate with him. he was only three at the time. so mark scrambled down. we couldn't climb down either, so mark had to find a way round the rocks and down to be with him. how did you manage to get to him, mark, how difficult was it? it probably took me a minute or so to scramble down rocks and squeeze through the gaps to get to him. i realised then that he was still with us, but he was clearly seriously hurt.
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so i picked him up and we managed to get him out of where he had fallen, and then we made our way back to the road. we were ten, 15 minutes' walk from the road and louise and i met up at the road then. what injuries had he sustained and what condition was he in? at that stage, we didn't know. we could tell that he had obviously hurt himself. he had fallen a long way, but it wasn't until we got to the hospital that they were able to do a proper test and scan. the obvious thing at that point was his head injury. he had blood coming from his head and had obviously banged it hard. but we didn't know what else had happened. when we got to the hospital, that was what they dealt with, trying to understand what his injuries were. the two big things they were worried about was damage to his brain and his spine. he'd fallen a great distance
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and he was only three, so they were most worried about those two things. obviously, he looks to be in great health today. is he completely better, is there any legacy from it? at the moment, we think he's completely normal. he did have a bleed on his brain and there is a time period over which things might change or develop over time, they say 20 years. but at the moment, from our perspective, he's a normal, healthy, happy four—year—old boy, and that is incredible. he's going to school in september, so that will be a big change for him. but yeah, he's wonderful and we are really grateful to the hospital for everything they did, because they were brilliant with us that whole week. sam, can you remember much about what happened ? no. you can't remember? can you remember being in the hospital? yeah. what do you want to say?
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he doesn't remember the accident at all himself, no. but you remember being in hospital. what do you want to say to the doctors and the nurses and all the people? thank you. big thank you. it was sheffield children's hospital where we went, and they're doing a big fund—raising campaign to try and expand the facilities there. they're trying to raise £4.5 million. the hospital was built a while ago and it was built to deal with 32,000 patients a year, and it now sees 60,000. so there's a lot of pressure on those who work there and they're fantastic. they're relying on donations from members of the public, so we're really grateful to them. we want to support the campaign. if anyone else does, you can go and donate on the website. they saved our son's life, so we owe them a huge amount. as you say, you had amazing treatment and you must both feel so incredibly fortunate now, having seen what happened and the fears of what might have been. how do you feel now about everything? it's a really interesting
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question because in some ways, we were unlucky that it happened in the first place. it was just one of those freak accidents that you never expect to happen. but given that it happened, we feel incredibly lucky that he's all right. he's the same little boy that he was before. so overall, we feel remarkably lucky and really grateful to have had the incredible help and support from everybody at the hospital. and as a parent, in some ways you always think it will never happen to you and then when it does, it does just bring it all home that these little people are super special and we're really lucky that we got a happy ending. and that is due to the children's hospital in sheffield. amazing. it's great to talk to you all. good luck with school in september, sam! what do you say? sorry! thanks ever so much. sam, louise and mark, with their
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happy ending. david williamson is a double amputee on the verge of completing a challenge many would shy away from. he is attempting to complete 30 marathons in 30 days to raise £30,000, for people and charities close to his heart. among them is three—year—old felicity who has an undiagnosed genetic condition. she has three brain conditions, is visually impaired, suffers with reflux and has epilepsy. then there's four—year—old emerson who developed a cyst on his spine when he was two, which means he is paralysed from the waist down. his family are hoping to take him to america for treatment. david also wants to help limbpower, an organisation which supports disabled people through sports and arts. we can speak to david now, who has kindly paused in the middle of his 29th marathon to speak to us. thank you, david, how are you feeling? thank you for having me on the show. i am feeling surprisingly all right considering this is my 29th marathon in 29 days.”
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mentioned here you are raising money for and the charity, a massive incentive for you to get through it, but you have had no rest days, no downtime if you are not feeling up to it, how has it been? that is very true, that has been the most difficult part, no recovery time at all. so as well as the physical challenge of having to get up and do it, it is the mental challenge of making sure i and determined enough and, frankly, stubborn enough to keep going even when my body does not want me to. i think the first 19 of the marathons you did, you were just going around a track? does that not become incredibly monotonous and ha rd to not become incredibly monotonous and hard to keep going? absolutely, i was on a running track in london and as difficult as it was, i plotted the tracks athletes were training there who are olympic class and world —class, there who are olympic class and world—class, and having that calibre
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of athlete around me really inspired me to give it my best shot. i did not want to look silly and of them. you have described yourself as the luckiest man in the world, why? absolutely. my upbringing was incredible, the family and friends i have had around me who have always supported me and really given me the space to set myself challenges and accomplish than whilst also supporting me through it, i had such an incredibly... here i am, i unable to help other people, how could i not be considered the luckiest person in the world? you pay tribute to yourfamily, person in the world? you pay tribute to your family, the person in the world? you pay tribute to yourfamily, the reason person in the world? you pay tribute to your family, the reason you are in the wheelchair as you have been a double amputee since you were four months old, you were born without tibia bones. that must have the pressure and challenges on your pa rents pressure and challenges on your parents but, as you say, you could
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not be happier with the way you were brought up and the outlook you have asa brought up and the outlook you have as a result of theirs? absolutely. growing up! as a result of theirs? absolutely. growing up i was still a lot of pressure on disabled children to go to what the code special needs schools rather than mainstream education. my parents fought so hard to get me into mainstream and that was the start of myjourney. to get me into mainstream and that was the start of my journey. he said you like to be set challenges or to set challenges for yourself and accomplish than, is it too soon to ask what the next might be? retirement! no, i have signed up to do the great south run in october, this will be my sixth, i will be raising money for a down's syndrome association, so i am always looking forward to whatever is around the corner. how did you come across
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these children you are raising money for? felicity, my stepmum liz goes to the wa with felicity‘s great—grandmother. my stepmum asked me if! great—grandmother. my stepmum asked me if i would do something to help felicity, 2017i me if i would do something to help felicity, 2017! completed the brighton marathon and have stated really close contact with the whole family ever since. with emerson, i had a facebook message from his dad out of the blue, i didn't know the family that his dad had seen articles about me online and what i had achieved and sent me a message to say that seeing i had overcome everything placed in front of me, it gave him lots of hope that emerson could. david, i am so sorry, we are right out of time. good locale thank you forjoining us and for your company, see you soon. goodbye.
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still some showers affecting the midlands to northwestern areas. they are drifting eastwards, that is the scene are drifting eastwards, that is the scene in oxfordshire. some sunshine in henley—on—thames. sunny spells across many parts for the afternoon. mcleod for northern ireland into northern and western scotland, later this afternoon some showers developing across seven scotland and the north—east of england, maximum temperatures getting to 21 to 25 celsius, through the evening heavier showers developing consistent areas. they will push further south, some pretty intense downpours for a time. overnight temperatures getting down to about 12 to 15 celsius. into the weekend, for many of us on saturday it will be dry, showers developing across the pennines, drifting through the midlands to saturday. either side of that, sunny spells. lots of cloud on sunday, particularly in the east, temperatures in the low to mid 20s.
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