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president trump's racist tweets. a symbolic resolution in a chamber controlled by the democrats. several republicans backed the motion following his recent attacks on four democratic congresswomen. mr trump says they hate america and can leave if they want to, but insisted he doesn't have a racist bone in his body. a senior iranian official at the united nations has said his country's missiles are absolutely non—negotiable. he was responding to suggestions from the us secretary of state, mike pompeo, that iran is prepared to discuss its ballistic missile programme. members of the european parliament have narrowly elected ursula von der leyen as the first woman to lead the european commission. mrs von der leyen, who was previously germany's defence minister, secured only nine more votes than needed to take the eu's topjob. she appealed to all sides to work together constructively. now on bbc news,
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tuesday in parliament. let's go live to washington, dc with pictures coming in from afp of the washington monument. a celebration of one of the most extraordinary achievements of humankind, a mission that allowed humans to walk on the moon in that historic moment in 1969 that captivated people worldwide. 50 yea rs captivated people worldwide. 50 years since the apollo rocket blasted off from the kennedy space centre in florida with those three astronauts in the tiny capsule contained in the rocket. now, tuesday in parliament ‘s. —— now, tuesday in parliament ‘s. —— now, tuesday in parliament ‘s. —— now, tuesday in parliament. hello again, and welcome to tuesday in parliament. as ministers are told to do more
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to allow children to learn about sex education. what we are up against here is racists and homophobes who are trying to put what they think on the children where i live. president trump's under fire over his latest tweets. in this country, my lords, we would call those words racist. will the minister do the same? and would you trust your smart speaker to give you medical advice? a doctor seeks a second opinion. when i repeated twice, it gave me two different advice. one was to call 999, the other one was to go to bed and rest. laughter all that to come and more. but first, from september next year, it will be compulsory in england to teach relationships education for primary age pupils and relationships and sex education for secondary age pupils. ministers also say they want primary schools to teach children about same sex relationships. some already do.
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and in birmingham, there have been angry protests outside some schools from parents unhappy with the new guidance. in the commons, the schools minister said the government was trying to dispel what he called the "myths" circulating about what children are being taught. we are aware that misinformation is circulating about what schools currently teach about relationships and what they will teach when the new subjects are introduced. the department for education has undertaken a number of activities in response. in april this year, we published a frequently asked questions designed to bust myths on the subjects and these have been translated into three languages. injune, we published the final version of the relationships, sex and health education guidance, as well as guides for parents on the subjects. the level of misinformation is fast and in danger of spreading, and with respect to the minister, whatever efforts the department have
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been making to counter that misinformation have clearly not worked. —— is vast. and it is clear from last night's panorama programme that protests against relationship education are growing across the country. will the minister update guidance to schools from "if" to "when" to ensure that schools have a clear message about the need to teach lgbt—inclusive sex and relationship education? and will the minister send a clear message to the school protesters that lg bt—inclusive sex and relationship education is mandated by government, compliance will be checked by ofsted and attempts to intimidate individual headteachers will not change this? well, i do agree with the honourable member for hull west and heselton about the importance of the equality of relationships and families. and that is spelt out in this guidance. i think the honourable lady should
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understand that we do want to achieve maximum consensus with this relationship education. that's why there's a requirement to publish the policy on the school's website. that's in regulations. and to consult parents, it's in the statutory guidance, but ultimately, it is a matter for the school itself to decide on the curriculum, and when... hang on. and when the school has decided on what it wants to teach and when, it will have the full support and backing of the department for education and from ministers. much of the current debate about this issue, including the protests in birmingham, are about the current curriculum, not the new curriculum, which become statutory in september2020. under that new and updated guidance, it gives an opportunity to be respectful of faith—based communities when this teaching occurs. for example, on marriage, family and relationships, and indeed fundamentally states that the education should be appropriate having regard to the age and religious background of pupils. the updated guidance, would the minister agree, probably has the most comprehensive
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section ever on respect for religious belief. the minister said she was right. and he thought the vast majority of parents would support the school. but a labour mp said the guidance clearly wasn't working and consultation would help only with reasonable people. but what we are up against here is racists and homophobes who are trying to put what they think on the children where i live. there needs to be clarity. will he promise that, because the headteachers in birmingham and across the country now who are getting in touch with me, it is what they want. i pay tribute to the honourable lady and the work she's doing locally to counter the kind of views that have been expressed in these protests. those protests that intimidate children coming into school and intimidate the teachers teaching those schools are unacceptable, which is why we support and supported birmingham city council in taking an injunction against these protests, that people do have a right approach, but they do not
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have a right to intimidate young children going into school. this is not about consultation. i do not believe that the issues that are coming up is not about consultation, it's about lgbt and the misinformation that's being given out and the bigotry that is being displayed by some minorities on our streets. and we have to hit back and support about that. i think there should be a consensus in this house about the importance of having updated guidance on this issue. it's 20 years since the last set of guidance on how to teach sex education, relationship education in our schools, and in those 20 years, she will know how much her party has helped achieve equality for lgbt people in this country and this party under the last prime minister bringing forward the right of gay people to marry, a right that i am personally extremely grateful for.
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if these protests do no desist and if he is not going to make the guidance prescriptive, which would make the protests fruitless, will he consider exclusion zones around the schools so that these protests cannot bear any fruit? well, that's why we supported birmingham city council, of course, in taking the injunction against the protests that had become very challenging for young people going into that school. while prescription won't stop the protests necessarily, it will make clear to the protesters there's no use bullying the schools and the heads to try and change the policy because the requirement is elsewhere. he says there isn't a veto for parents in this. but if a school sits down and consults with parents, and those parents who want to stop same sex education being taught know that the head has the ultimate decision, then there is enormous pressure on that head and parents will believe they have a veto whether they actually do or not.
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i can make it clearfrom this despatch box that parents do not have a veto over the content of the curriculum. and that has been absolutely clear, it is clear from the guidance, it is clear from what i have said, it is clear from what the secretary of state has said. in addition to that, we strongly encourage schools to start teaching about lgbt issues in primary school. nick gibb. new legislation that creates for the first time a wide—ranging legal definition of domestic abuse has started its journey through parliament. the domestic abuse bill, which applies to england and wales, also bars perpetrators from questioning victims in court and introduces a new role of domestic abuse commissioner. mps of all parties welcomed the bill, but several wondered whether the next prime minister would be fully committed to the changes. domestic abuse is complex and multifaceted. in addition to physical violence,
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it can include emotional, psychological, sexual and economic abuse. and at its heart is often controlling or coercive behaviour. we were the first parliament in the world to recognise this when we brought in the controlling or coercive behaviour offence in 2015. but our understanding of domestic abuse continues to grow and evolve, and this bill gives us an opportunity to ensure that our legislation keeps pace. and she paid tribute to theresa may. she has worked tirelessly over many years as a member of this house, as home secretary and as prime minister to ensure that the vulnerable are heard and protected and that perpetrators are brought to justice. her determination and dedication to helping the 2 million victims of domestic abuse shines through this bill. the bill was a commitment made by the outgoing prime minister in her final queen's speech just over two years ago. whilst it survived fairly late
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in her leadership and without time for her to see it through, i am pleased she has finally set things in motion for this long overdue and much needed legislation. we would, however, like assurances from this government that whoever will be prime minister next week has the same commitment to this and can guarantee that this bill will be robust and that funding will be available to fulfil everything it promises. concerns echoed by the longest—serving female mp, the mother of the house. this bill rightly brings a new definition, new powers, new duties, a new office and an extension to northern ireland. but the question is, and also many of us want to add further things to it when it goes on for further scrutiny, but the question is what happens next? neither of the two leadership candidates have been what you might
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call champions of the cause of domestic violence, tackling domestic violence. that is simply a fact. so, ijust hope that the next prime minister recognises that this bill is the will of the house. although the prime minister may be stepping down next week, she's not leaving the house. so, she will, i'm sure, be a strong, strong advocate from the back benches on this bill. but the right honourable lady is absolutely right that this is not just a government commitment, which it very firmly is, it also has the support across the house and i think we've been talking about it long enough now that the public understand what we want to get to and this house certainly won't let any future government off the hook, as it were, from delivering on it. and that's why i'm so pleased that both leadership candidates have committed to progressing with this bill in the autumn and there will be many, many colleagues making sure that they keep to that pledge.
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i think she said 2 million victims. if that is the case, then overwhelmingly they will be women. and that means if they are to be freed, it means changing the attitudes of men. how is that to be achieved? you know... i think my right honourable friend for may be volunteering for a role here. he's right to make the point that of the 2 million victims, we estimate about 1.3 million are female, about 695,000 are male. and within that 695,000, we believe, it's very difficult to... there are problems in terms of identifying the estimate. we believe that the majority of perpetrators are male, and it comes to this point about within the huge range of abusive behaviour within relationships, there are many, many manifestations and what may be experienced by a couple in a heterosexual relationship may be very
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different from what is experienced in a homosexual relationship, for example. you're watching tuesday in parliament with me, david cornock. still to come: a cabinet minister bearing gifts. donald trump has been strongly criticised in the house of lords and accused of holding racist views by one peer over his tweets which called on four democratic congresswomen of colour to go back to the countries they came from. the president who suggested the four women, all us citizens, can leave has denied allegations of racism. here, the prime minister said the comments were completely unacceptable. the four congresswomen have all been highly critical of conditions in a migrant detention centre they had visited and president trump's approach to border control.
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what is truly shocking is that when democratically elected representatives raise their concerns, they are treated to abuse by their president. now, i welcome very much the prime minister's condemnation when she called these words "completely unacceptable". but in this country, my lords, we would call those words "racist". will the minister do the same? my lords, i'm glad the noble lord raises the issue, it's a very noble issue. and i'm also very glad that he was able to raise the views expressed by my right honourable friend the prime minister. the fact is that my right honourable friend said yesterday that the language used to refer to these women was completely unacceptable and i am also glad that the two contenders for the leadership of my party have also said similar. my lords, my noble friend, my right honourable friend will always stand up for the values
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of tolerance, decency, and respect. hear, hear. lord courtown. mps have demanded to know why there's so little action to improve jails following recommendations from prison inspectors. the chief inspector of prisons told the justice committee there was a lack of clarity about who was responsible for making changes. a labour mp gave the example of one prison in the south of england. you have said at hmp lewis that there is a 45—point action plan agreed with managers august 2 2018, only 13 actions have not been completed and the inspector has not yet received an action plan from hmpps following the inspection and at the same time, you have had the five—inflicted deaths and 300 incidents of self—harm. who is responsible in your view for managing this position at say, for example, hmp lewis? well, that's a very good question mr hanson which i have asked quite a few governors who is responsible
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for the implementation of a special measures action plan? and i have varying answers. some governors say, "well, i suppose it's me." others say, "well, it's probably the prison group director". some think it may be someone further up the chain. there is a lack of clarity about it. what does good leadership look like in a prison than? well, good leadership... who is responsible? well, i would like to think that the governor could be responsible. so what levers do you have when we see a situation where only ten of the recommendations in hmp lewis for example have been achieved out of a 45—point action plan? well, i have new levers now, urgent notifications, and reviews of progress which brings a level of accountability and transparency which hasn't been there before. can we look at suicides and self—harm because we have had a 25% increase again in the last year. 83 self—harm deaths last year, a 15% increase overall. now, again, who is accountable in your view for monitoring, delivering, and challenging the system when those figures rise?
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well, that's the very question which i posed last week when i published my annual report which was who is driving in demanding change in respect of this? in one third of the prisons we inspect, we find that the response to prison and probation ombudsman recommendations following deaths are not being properly implemented. do you think it's time that we had a target for a reduction of suicides in the prisons? would that target drive culture change and if so, who should be responsible for that? i think i have to say two things. one is i don't think any target in terms of death is acceptable. secondly, that in my experience, you change culture by changing behaviours.
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targets can have unintended consequences. i have been in prisons in the us where they've had very few suicides and that's because as soon as someone feels suicidal, they put them in a straitjacket. i don't know what happens to them when they leave prison, but i doubt they are in a very good mental state there and i would like to see their figures for suicides after custody. the committee later put those questions about why recommendations weren't acted on to a senior official at the ministry ofjustice. fewer recommendations have been achieved than not achieved for the third year in succession. what transparency is that — you take it on board then you ignore it? i wouldn't accept there is any ignoring of recommendations... then why are fewer achieved than not achieved? i think it reflects the challenge of actually meeting the recommendations in full or even in part. i think the assessment of recommendations not being achieved, i think it is just worth bearing in mind that is not a reflection of activity and whether there has
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been an effort. it's actually a reflection of also whether the outcomes that are desired have been achieved. i think the reality in the way we have just heard around the challenges around prison performances is that often, management teams and their staff are working hard to get better outcomes but they have not always been successful in doing that in recent years because of the scale of the challenge. that has then led to an assessment that recommendations haven't been achieved. but there has often been a lot of activity and effort to hide that. i think sometimes the language of "not achieved" sounds like managers are just not bothering ignoring recommendations, that's not been my experience at all. the mps asked the minister why the prisons weren't better at tackling suicides. the prison service has been coming through quite a tough few years. we've had a number of challenging public spending settlements that did result in reduction in workforce. we are coming through that now with the investment that has been made since 2016. the number of prison officers, the sheer number of them, has increased significantly. i think sadly, what you're going to see in prisons is a bit of a lagging indicator in the sense that the investments that have been
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made perhaps a year or so ago will only really see fruit over the next few years. it's deeply frustrating because i want improvement now, but i get a real sense of purpose from my officials and indeed from the governors, deputy governors, and leadership teams and all the prison officers i'm meeting on the ground that they want to do something about this, that every suicide is not just a tragedy, but a failure of the system. and that the priority has to be on a reduction. robert buckland, the prisons minister. climate change protesters are continuing to block key roads in city centres around the uk. in cardiff, members of the extinction rebellion group blocked castle street with a green boat and chained themselves together. they want the government to commit to reducing the uk's carbon emissions to net zero in six years — 25 years quicker than ministers have pledged. this government is failing to act
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quickly or robustly enough to tackle the climate emergency particularly on solar and onshore wind. will the secretary of state welcome the actions of the peaceful extinction rebellion protesters across five cities in this country including my own of cardiff to disrupt business as usual and send that important message? hear, hear. what i welcome is that we have now had since the legislation passing on net zero, the first country in the g7 to legislate for net zero by 2,050, this has become a catalystic moment for everyone in society to recognise that we need a whole of society approach to this which is why when it comes to looking at action, i welcome all action whether it is from the climate coalition who i met recently, whether it's from businesses and industries, organisations like tesco have committed to net zero, marks and spencers... we all have a part to play. the select committee has shown that his department would not achieve his climate ambitions due to their ambivalence over carbon capture and failure to emulate scotland over energy efficiency measures.
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the net zero 2050 target was imposed by the prime minister above their heads. as they prepare to leave their post, will they admit that their department lack the policies to achieve it and that his legacy will be one of abject failure? no, i think if anything, my legacy will be as the minister that signed the legislation ensuring that we were the first country to achieve net zero by 2050. does the minister agree with the tuc that while decarbonisation presents exciting economic opportunities, the lack of a comprehensive just transition policy or coherent industrial strategy means that many well—paid highly skilled unionised jobs are under threat? i will half agree with the tuc on this point that when we come to a transition, they are concerned about reaching net zero being a just transition. we are living through a revolution. we are going to need to be able to take the population with us when it comes to jobs and their job security. but the future of green jobs, we have 450,000 greenjobs now. we will potentially have 2 million by 2030 and we need to work with the unions in ensuring that
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when we look at the future of the world of work, we take the entire population with us. chris skidmore‘s boss, the business secretary, set out what was happening to make the uk carbon neutral. last week, i launched the new electric mini based in oxford the week beforejlr announced they are making a range of electric vehicles. in an hour's time, i will be launching the new electric hypercar. so in keeping with what appears to be a new tradition of sharing preholiday gifts across the despatch box, i would like to provide the honourable lady with a small symbol of what i hope will be our efforts to support our automotive industry in which we are very proud in its shift to a greener future. hear, hear!
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laughter. greg clark with a present for his labour shadow although given mr clark may be about to leave his job when the new prime minister takes over, perhaps she should have got him a parting gift. now if you're feeling under the weather, who would you call? people can now ask for health advice using amazon alexa devices. under an agreement between the government and the firm the voice—assisted technology can search the official nhs england website when users ask a medical question. in the lords, a leading obstetrician, lord patel, revealed he'd tried out the new service for himself. i asked five questions at weekend, all health—related. one of them i repeated twice. the one i repeated twice, it gave me two different advice. one was to call 999, the other was to go to bed and rest. laughter. i know it is not a diagnostic technology, but it runs the risk of a diagnosis being made. so the key question is what trials
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are being carried out, what data protection do we have against amazon collecting vast amounts of data, and what is the risk of a misdiagnosis? hear, hear. i don't know how often noble lords are getting on with their alexa in the corner of their sitting room, but ours regularlyjoins in with conversations and tells us very bad jokes. my granddaughter thinks it's wonderful because she knows what noise a unicorn makes. so i'm not sure as the noble lord has said, how that plays. if it was trying to have a serious discussion about a medical condition. well, i thank the baroness for that. i would be very interested to know whatjokes she has been receiving from alexa in her family conversations. however, i mean, at the moment patients do search on well—known search engines for medical advice. and at the moment, they may be receiving advice from all sorts of untested sources. nhs.uk is clinically based advice which has been approved by nhs england. lady blackwood said the aim
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was to make that advice more widely available to patients. fortunately, i don't need to ask alexa to know that's the end of tuesday in parliament. thank you for watching. i do hope you canjoin me again at the same time tomorrow when i'll have coverage of theresa may's penultimate prime minister's questions. bye for now. hello again. we're going to start to see some change in our weather today. we've got low pressure coming off the atlantic. that's going to be bringing some wet weather into northern ireland quickly and western scotla nd northern ireland quickly and western scotland as well. eastern scotland, england and wales some morning sunshine, although there is a tenant the for the weather to turn a little bit cloudier as the day goes by. the
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best of the bright conditions into the afternoon still hanging around in east anglia and south—east england. with that thick cloud, temperatures piggybacked generally into the high teens, so a cooler day than was on tuesday for northern and western areas and still warm in the sunshine across east anglia and south—east england. heading through wednesday night, our rain will continue to push eastwards across northern england. a little bit of rainfora time northern england. a little bit of rain for a time across east anglia and south—east england, but perhaps not amounting to two much. it could, though, loiterfor a not amounting to two much. it could, though, loiter for a bit not amounting to two much. it could, though, loiterfor a bit into thursday. it will clear out of the way, and then thursday sunshine for england and wales and some dry weather. scotland and northern ireland on thursday will have a mixture of sunny spells and showers, but those showers are likely to be heavy and thundery in places. that's your weather.
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