tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News July 17, 2019 10:00am-11:01am BST
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hello, it's wednesday, it's10am, i'm victoria derbyshire. good morning. us lawmakers have voted to condemn president donald trump after he told four congresswomen, who are american citizens, to "go back to their own country". these comments from the white house are disgraceful and disgusting and these comments are racist. how shameful to hear him continue to defend those offensive words, words that we have all heard him repeat, not only about our members but about constant others. — — cou ntless —— countless others. kids who are home schooled are being put at risk because government plans to monitor them don't go far enough. that's according to councils in england and wales, who want the power to go into people's homes to check what's going on.
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we'll talk to this mum from suffolk, who home educates her three children, who are eight, 13, and 11—year—old ceri—lee. today, mps will debate the bullying and harassment of their own staff, following a report that it's a widespread problem in mps offices. months before that report, this young woman woman, told us exclusively that it had happened to her. i had one quite kind of old senior civil servant for a government department get right in my face, shouting at me. he called me stupid. i could almost feel kind of like the spit landing on my face. he was so angry. it was just so, you know... i'd only been in the job a few months and it was so overwhelming and scary that ijust... i didn't know how to deal with it. and in our exclusive film today, we meet the surgeons in syria using ground—breaking research to help kids who've been injured by bombs. what is said having today? what are these men doing with his legs? so, said currently is doing
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an adjustment for a newly constructed socket for his limb. he needs to do an adjustment to the bone every one year and one and a half year because the bone will keep growing, but there is no skin or muscles to grow with the bone so it will be painful. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. guess which track is the most played song of the 21st centruy on uk radio? this one. #we this one. # we all do it all # we all do it all # everything # everything #on # everything # on ourown...
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# on ourown... #we # on ourown... # we don't need # we don't need # anything or anyone # anything or anyone #ifl # anything or anyone # ifilay # anything or anyone # if i lay here # if i lay here #ifl # if i lay here # if ijust lay here # if ijust lay here # would you lie with me? # would you lie with me? # and just forget the world? stunning! beautiful love ballad, which so many couples choose for their frist dance at their wedding. we'll talk about the appeal, the magic of chasing cars later on with a couple who did choose it for their first dance when they got married — and do let us know what was the song you chose for your first dance at your wedding and why? send me an e—mail. here's a bit of video from my wedding dance —
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i got married last year. we didn't actually do that much dancing to our first track to be honest..but we did a lot of singing. #aday # a day like this with you will see me right #it me right # it was a good do! nearly my first anniversary as well. so, the first track you chose for your first wedding dance, let me know! and we will talk about chasing cars. the most popular track on uk radio and for those wedding dances. here is a need to make value. good morning, everyone. the us house of representatives has voted in favour of a resolution putting on record its "strong condemnation" of comments by president trump it says were racist. mr trump had said four non—white
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democrat congresswomen should go back to the countries they came from. even though all are american citizens and three were born in the us. the president has insisted he isn't a racist. nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe, the british—iranian woman jailed in iran for alleged spying, has been moved to a psychiatric ward, according to her husband. richard ratcliffe says military personnel are preventing family visits. mrs zaghari—ratcliffe went on hunger strike for 15 days last month in protest at her detention. both she and the british government deny the spying charges. mps are to debate the bullying and harassment of their own staff later. it follows a report published last week that confirmed it's widespread amongst workers in parliament. it said the most common form of abuse was being shouted at in public and also raised concerns about unwanted sexual advances. and there will be more on this in the programme shortly. a study says domestic abuse victims in the english countryside suffer for longer than those in urban areas and are less likely to report offences.
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the national rural crime network found that victims were often isolated and unsupported, with fewer means of escape. it also found evidence that abusers even move victims to rural settings to extend their control. around a third of labour peers have endorsed an advert in this morning's guardian, accusing jeremy corbyn of failing "the test of leadership". it says he has yet to accept responsibility for "allowing anti—semitism to grow in" the party. a labour spokesman said mr corbyn and the party stood "in solidarity with jewish people". the former manchester city footballer and manager of fleetwood town, joey barton, has been charged with attacking a member of a rival team. barnsley coach daniel stendel was left with facial injuries following reports of a clash at a football match earlier this year. 36—year—old joey barton has been bailed to appear before barnsley magistrates court on wednesday 9th october.
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the first scientific review of its kind has concluded that menstrual cups are safe and effective. the research was published in the lancet public health. it looked at 43 studies involving more than three thousand women and girls. it says menstrual cups could offer a cheap and reliable solution to period poverty, where women and girls can't afford sanitary products. you might like to know it's world emoji day. now in its sixth year, it falls on july the 17th because the calendar emoji is depicted with that date on its image. there are now nearly 3,000 icons to choose from. apple has released previews of a number of new emoji due to be rolled out later this year, including a range of disability—themed designs. research suggests chimpanzees enjoy watching tv together just as much as humans. pairs of chimps were monitored as they watched videos and psychologists found they feel the same sense of bonding, thought to be unique to humans.
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researchers say it shows the "deep evolutionary roots" of the emotional impact that occurs when watching something with someone else. that is a summary of the main story so that is a summary of the main story so far today. back to you, victoria. thank you very much indeed. children being educated at home is on the rise, but the government is being warned that its current plans to monitor students could put them at risk. the department for education says it plans to introduce a compulsory register for home educated children, but the local government association — which represents councils in england and wales — claims that doesn't go far enough. it's calling for local authorities to be given powers so they are able to enter homes or premises where a child is being home—schooled and speak to them. it's estimated there are just under 58,000 home—schooled children in england. we can speak now to rhianjoy. she educates her three children at home. two have special education needs.
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ceri—lee joy is rhian‘s 11—year—old daughter. she's been home schooled for the past four years but will be returning to school in september; cllr david simmonds is the deputy chairman of the local government association and deputy leader of london borough of hillingdon, and dr carrie herbert — who is founder and president of red balloon learner centres, a company which supports children who aren't educated at school. what are they? centres for children who can't go to school, self excluded because of bullying or trauma and we recover them and get them back into mainstream school. rhianjoy, them back into mainstream school. rhian joy, currently all three them back into mainstream school. rhianjoy, currently all three of your children are home educated including ceri—lee, why? your children are home educated including ceri-lee, why? where do we start? my oldest son is 13 and went through the mainstream school system and special school system and both failed him miserably. they caused a great deal of mental health issues. to your son? yes, self-harm and
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extreme levels of anxiety. health professional said it was actually the environment that was causing the issues and rather than medicate him to keep him in an environment that was causing the issues, we took him out to home educate. what about ceri—lee, who is 11? out to home educate. what about ceri-lee, who is 11? ceri-lee so what we were getting up to and felt quite jealous what we were getting up to and felt quitejealous she what we were getting up to and felt quite jealous she was in school are not having the same kind of education. and your eight-year-old? she has more needs than lewis so i will never put him in the system because i have witnessed first—hand how detrimental it can be. ceri-lee, what is it like being home educated? what sort of things do you do? quite a great deal of things to do. forest schools. english classes. quite a lot of fun things to do. have you enjoyed the experience of being educated by your parents? yes. you
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are going back to school in september, why is that? because my dreamjob, september, why is that? because my dream job, you have to have a high school education to graduate. can i ask what your dream job is? to be cabin crew for emirates. what is daily routine like for you and your kids? you don't have any training, any teacher training?|j kids? you don't have any training, any teacher training? i don't claim to bea any teacher training? i don't claim to be a teacher, nor do i have to be because i think children naturally learn anyway. and, actually, we're not trying to be a school, i'm not trying to be a teacher. teachers go through years training and i haven't, but we are alternatively educating our children. what is the daily routine? you can't say daily because things happen differently week to week. but we do parkour sessions, which is brilliant for my son with his dyspraxia. we do gymnastics. we do skating. there is
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home... a suffolk wildlife trust, who do home education sessions, where we go and do wildlife. there isa where we go and do wildlife. there is a farm locally that do learn and grow with the children, so we are incredibly lucky in suffolk. we have such a fantastic home education system. do you do maths, english? pezz eh, no. the kids? we have a tutor that does the english and maths. as far as french goes, we we re maths. as far as french goes, we were only in france last week, which is even better than sitting behind a desk learning french because you are actually teaching them conversations you need to have, rather than i live ina you need to have, rather than i live in a house. what do you think of this idea of this compulsory register? you will three, their names would have to be on this list of your local authority? 0k, names would have to be on this list of your local authority? ok, i am com pletely of your local authority? ok, i am completely against it. i think it is incredibly intrusive. just having their name on ellis? why? yes,
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because it is branding a home educator is doing a bad job and you have to be on a list because we can check you but no one goes into the schools and says to the schools, you need to be doing this or that. ofsted do. my son made no academic improvement in three years and no one was answerable to that. you said no one goes into the schools but they do. ofsted have strict guidelines and don't deal with one specific case. ofsted go in and look at the school as a whole, they don't look at children, to if they are getting a specific education. you feel the register tarnishes parents like yourself in a negative way? yes. there will be no rulings as to who comes into my home. there will be no guidelines. it is one of those slapdash things without the funding that they require and they will go with it. my understanding is a registered doesn't necessarily mean
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a local authority can go into a pa re nt‘s a local authority can go into a parent's home but that is what the lga would like, explain why. this is exactly the issue. rhian is a great example of home education. but the la st example of home education. but the last time i was on your programme, there was talk of more than 6000 children in illegal schools who supposedly are being home educated but getting no education in an environment where they are being put at risk of not getting an education. councils argue having a register that isn't backed by any powers or any resources to do anything about it leaves that group of children, which is probably around 10% of the number who which is probably around 10% of the numberwho are which is probably around 10% of the number who are home educated in this country today, at risk. we need to make sure their interests are safeguarded, whilst other mums and dads are doing a brilliantjob. safeguarded, whilst other mums and dads are doing a brilliantjoblj have to say, the actual consultation then goes on attendance orders, which is quite aggressive to come across, saying you will force a child back to school if you don't agree with the education that is
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being provided. yet again, we go back to the fact, what training will these people have? we have chosen to home educate, it is alternative education. it will put parents off following the interests of the child because they will be worried the child is not going to meet what this said council worker is going to say as an education. i entirely agree thatis as an education. i entirely agree that is why the lga representing council say rather than doing what the government is proposing, relying on taking parents through the court process, forcing them their children through that distressing experience, we should have a much lighter system, where councils would have simple powers to check everything is 0k. once that is established, there is no need to go through that existing, very heavy process. i think that's a much more positive solution, to protect the interests of the children in the current syste m of the children in the current system and also to protect those other families doing a fantastic job. let me bring in carrie herbert
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carrie herbert. there are thousands of children being taught in illegal schools. red balloon deals with children who are self excluding. children and parents can take their child off register and they fade into the wilderness. we are very against that as an organisation. you back a register? a register with a light touch. i think we need to know where children are. we need... i don't think we need to know how they are educated because i think that is up are educated because i think that is up to the parent, but we need to know they are safe and well and health and safety is being followed, they are being educated in some way and that they are being fed properly. i really think that is important. and we have children who have disappeared and we have children at red balloon who have been off role for years, no one
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knows where they are or what education they have had. you back the register with a light touch, as you put it, would you draw the line at having representatives of local authorities going into illegal schools, homes? i think illegal schools, homes? i think illegal schools are very different from homes. and i think that our illegal schools —— homes. and i think that our illegal schools — — that homes. and i think that our illegal schools —— that there are illegal schools —— that there are illegal schools where children are being educated in a way that perhaps the discriminatory laws wouldn't agree with it. some illegal schools are in homes, how would you differentiate? i think we were differentiate between the number of children. you wouldn't know until you go in? that is true, when i started red balloon we had two children and then three, no one came to check what we were doing. that is my point, you would have to go into the premises, whether a home or somewhere larger? and there have been interesting cases where children have been
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neglected, not educated or educated ina way neglected, not educated or educated in a way we wouldn't think it is appropriate for children in the 21st century foster i agree but i think it is still a light touch. i don't want... is someone going into someone's home or premises, is that a light touch or going too far?|j think knocking on the door and saying to rhian, may i see the children? we have a case in red balloon where we have not been able to see a child forgetting on 15 months. he was being educated online and finally we had to go round to the home to make sure he was all right child protection regulations. because we hadn't him.|j right child protection regulations. because we hadn't him. i think it is different, isn't it? where you have a suspicion of a child being at risk and a child's well—being, i think we are talking about something different. let me confirm that, you are pushing for these extra powers, are pushing for these extra powers, are you saying you would only go into a home or premises if there was a tip—off or a theory that someone
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was at risk or there were some illegal discriminatory teaching going on? i think this is exactly the problem we have seen illustrated. people are spot on. at the moment, there is a lot of confusion and it wouldn't be a welcome situation where a local authority was working with rhian to try and make sure that family were getting a good education had to take her to court, getting a good education had to take herto court, simply getting a good education had to take her to court, simply for her to be able to say, actually, yes, everything is fine. a light touch syste m everything is fine. a light touch system where you have a conversation usually would be arranged and in the view of local authorities this would not involve child protection and safeguarding concerns. we shouldn't escalate it like that because the vast majority of people do a brilliantjob. it vast majority of people do a brilliant job. it simply vast majority of people do a brilliantjob. it simply making sure every child is getting the education they are entitled to under the laws of this country. councils have a response ability for that and parents have a responsibility for that, it seems logical there must be some powers. . . that, it seems logical there must be some powers... have you given enough thought to children like my older son who have been damaged by the system and he has a statement of special educational needs and has an
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annual review every year. he will not attend this review, even though it is about himself. he will not attend because he is so scared that they are going to make him do something, like the schools did, that wasn't good for him. some imagine that person coming into his safe place, his safe environment, where he feels it's a safe place and they are now coming into that. the people who do this work are normally highly trained individuals. the point of it is to make sure the child is safe and well and if that involves a two minute conversation with you on your doorstep to establish the thing is fine, there is nothing to worry about, it also gives us the opportunity... a two minute conversation on the doorstep wouldn't establish if the child was safe and well? within the law, if the child was there and their member of staff can check the child is ok, in the context of the other information rhian has talked about, we could rely on that child being safe and well. if that child is never safe and well. if that child is never there when the visit takes place, in an environment where they
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are not safe, denied access to a good quality education, we need to look after their interests as well. do you not think it is a breach of human rights, coming to someone because my home? children have rights as well and we have a responsibility when it comes to education. do they get a say? yes, they do and that is built into the consultation. it is very clear. what we need to do is shift the balance enough that we can safeguard the interests of the vulnerable children. 0k, thank you all are very much. thank you for coming on the programme, really appreciate it. still to come... how ground—breaking research here is helping children left maimed or traumatised by the conflict in syria. and it didn't reach number one, but over the last 20 years, this song has been the most played on uk radio. we'll be talking to a couple who had chasing cars by snow patrol as their first dance at their wedding.
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thank you for those who have told me which song you had for your first dance. one says barry white, i still love hearing it now to stop sadly my husband left me after 18 years. i'm very sorry about that, sheila. another says, we had whitney houston, all of the man that i need. we have been married 18 years on sunday. and another, my wife and i forgot to ask our dj to play a song forgot to ask our dj to play a song for a wedding dance, somewhat deliberately, as we hate dancing! the wedding crowd asked the dj to play endless love by lionel ritchie and diana ross. but my wife and i hate that song! many happy memories of the day and it will be 25 happy yea rs next of the day and it will be 25 happy years next year. congratulations to gavern and carol in north shields. if you want to get in touch with us, you are very welcome. you can also message us on you are very welcome. you can also
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message us on twitter. we're going to show footage now of the moment unarmed officers and members of the public came face to face with the three london bridge attackers, who went on to kill eight people before being shot dead by police injune 2017. the video was filmed by paul clarke, a member of the public who was at the scene of the attack. it obviously contains distressing scenes. here's the bbc‘s home affairs correspondent daniel sandford. that's him there! so, this is footage filmed by paul clark who is a member of the public who was out with his family in borough market on the night of the london bridge attacks.
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and just to let you know that paul clarke, who took that remarkable footage, was succesfully reunited with his family. thankfully, they were all uninjured. it's one of the most watched videos on the bbc news site — still — it went up ysterday. itjust shows the remarkable courage of off duty officers, offciers on duty, and members of the public. incredible courage. the way they ran towards danger, didn't they? last november, a junior member of staff in parliament told us exclusively that dealing with abuse from mps and senior civil servants was part of the job. she described being shouted at, humiliated, talked down to and treated with complete disdain.
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she spoke to us anonymously for fear of losing herjob. i've had, you know, members of staff shouting in my face, calling me stupid. one older, senior member of staff shouted at me and asked if i even knew what brexit was, if i knew what was going on. i have had inappropriate comments. members of staff, particularly mps, asking don't i know who they are? just a com plete don't i know who they are? just a complete lack of respect is what i would say. one of the things i really identified with when some of the people came forward with their experiences was that feeling of locking yourself away in a room and crying and just being completely overwhelmed. have you done that? yes. the fact that is such a standard experience of working in those places, that it is so accepted and normalised is bizarre. part of my role is dealing with civil servants. i have one kind of old senior civil servant shouting in my
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face, shouting at me. i could almost feel the spit landing on my face. he was so angry. it was just so, you know, i'd only been in thejob a was so angry. it was just so, you know, i'd only been in the job a few months and it was so overwhelming and scary that i didn't know how to deal with it. but when i talked to the members of staff, particularly female members of staff, they all had a similar experience. again, it just seem to be a part of the job was dealing with abuse like that. and you ran into the toilet? yes, just locked myself away for 20 minutes. you said mps had said to you, don't you know who i am? what is the context? just kind of casually remarked to one mp that they should maybe wear their pass, like a security pass, to which they replied, "don't you know i am?" surely they should know who i am. there is very much... i know that is just one example that could kind of be laughed off, i suppose, but to
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me, itjust kind of... itjust kind of a cts me, itjust kind of... itjust kind of acts as a sample or as a symbol of acts as a sample or as a symbol of what the attitude is in that place. that air of superiority, that they are above the rules, just kind of co m plete they are above the rules, just kind of complete disdain sometimes. they treat other people with that and it is unacceptable. i think if it was me to do that or any other person in any otherjob, it wouldn't be tolerated. do you think they'd treat members of staff who are lower grades, if i can put it like that, in that way because they are seen as being lower down the social hierarchy? i think so. being lower down the social hierarchy? ithink so. ithink being lower down the social hierarchy? i think so. i think for someone like me and my department, i was only kind of a junior member of staff. i'm almost nothing. like what i say against an mp who has been there for ten years or more, it's just not, it's not going to be considered with the same weight. i'm not considered with the same sort of social ranking.
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last week, a report by a qc confirmed what ‘katie' had told us, concluding that bullying and harassment in mps' offices is widespread, and a "minority of them behaved in ways which are not acceptable and fall far short of what we should expect from our elected representatives". today, mps will debate the bullying and harassment of their own staff. let's talk now to journalist kate maltby, former parliamentary clark hannah white, labour mp justin maddows, who will speak at today's debate, and eliot wilson another former staff member of the house. for the benefit of our audience, i wa nt to for the benefit of our audience, i want to read a couple of examples from the report, it is really important to realise what some members of staff have been experiencing. an mp requested the researcher should vacuum and dust the flat ahead of a private party. staff member placed in a very difficult position, if they agree, they give themselves a task beyond
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they give themselves a task beyond the terms of their employment, but if they refuse, they risk souring a working relationship. another expense, the mp intimidates and undermines me every day —— another experience. i was in tears on an almost daily basis, the mp regularly undermined me and my work. they would send me e—mails at all hours, including weekends, expecting an immediate response, and accuse me of letting them down if they did not get one. will any mp face any consequences? that is part of the problem. we have had all these allegations made, very unclear at the moment what the sanctions are of any substance, there has been talk of restricting mps' access to the library, but no significant sanctions to send out the message to staff that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated and a message to mps they have to behave in a much
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better way. i am not necessarily just talking about sanctions, is any mp going to be investigated for some of the things reported?” mp going to be investigated for some of the things reported? i do not think it was part of the remit to look at individual complaints, but what she said very clearly was a lot of stuff do not have confidence in the current scheme because they do not consider it independent because mps will be sitting in judgment on their own colleagues which i think isa their own colleagues which i think is a real problem. extraordinary. the fact it is called independent and it is mps... the fact it is called independent and it is mps. .. there are lay members on it but still in peace. and it is mps. .. there are lay members on it but still in peacem cannot be described as independent. you cannot have a workplace with work colleagues sitting in judgment, you would not have that in other workplaces. only in political parties. kate, people who experience abuse and harassment contact you, what kind of experiences are they we re what kind of experiences are they were lying to you? i do not think any of us who work on this issue are surprised on the report by hannah
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right, we were not surprised about her comments on a very serious sexual assault, i have heard complaints like that. many people who come to me for advice who are very sceptical that they will get anyjustice very sceptical that they will get any justice and, to very sceptical that they will get anyjustice and, to be honest, i am impressed justin is here. i made a complaint about the conservative party, i have been very critical of the handling of this, but we are also seeing in the labour party at the moment, the internal disciplinary system isn't so much chaos and we have all examined and seen the stories about anti—semitism, but, frankly, it is the same disciplinary system that is supposed to be investigating sexual harassment cases, it isjust as troubled and looking at that. would you accept that? it is slightly different. for me, i think that all political party should move to an independent system and investigation
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for all complaints and we can get away from the situation where people do not have confidence the system will deal with... do not have confidence the system will deal with. .. some are do not have confidence the system will dealwith... some are pushing for that in the labour party when it comes to anti—semitism. and these are ina comes to anti—semitism. and these are in a really unique... at the staff are in a uniquely vulnerable position, directly employed by mps. complaining would be career suicide. absolutely, they are recruited by mps and the anti is their boss and they do not have any convincing alternative if they feel their boss's behaviour is inappropriate, who today complained to? they are in an office day in, day out they are ina an office day in, day out they are in a uniquely vulnerable position. what is worse, many people want to see a career what is worse, many people want to see a career for themselves in politics and it is notjust, if you fall out with your current mp employer, you might not be able to feel comfortable working with them if you report something they have done, but you might then feel you cannot work for any other entity or
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pursue a career cannot work for any other entity or pursue a career in politics because people mark you out as a troublemaker —— other mp. people mark you out as a troublemaker -- other mp. did you see it when you were working there? i saw behaviour by senior mps. i gave a committee to —— i gave advice to the chair of the committee, the subject of the advice, tilt at the taila very subject of the advice, tilt at the tail a very long speech he was making, he found me in a remote corridor and berated me at length —— told to curtail a very long speech. how long had i worked in the house? i was simply doing myjob. there we re many i was simply doing myjob. there were many far i was simply doing myjob. there were many far worse i was simply doing myjob. there were many far worse incidences than that. there has been really u na cce pta ble that. there has been really unacceptable behaviour. is the mp still an unacceptable behaviour. is the mp stillan mp unacceptable behaviour. is the mp still an mp who shouted you? would you consider retrospectively, if you
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are able, making a complaint?” could do that, but the difficulty is, people still trying to make a career is, people still trying to make a career for themselves in the house, it is very difficult. you could do that because it is not that hysterical. i could do it if the house today boats to allow historical cases to be investigated, i would feel able to do it because i have left — — i would feel able to do it because i have left —— today votes. in the report came out last year, there we re report came out last year, there were a report came out last year, there were a numberof report came out last year, there were a number of people, former members of house staff able to speak out, but it has been notable how few current or format and his staff members have been willing to speak —— former staff members. members have been willing to speak -- former staff members. we have been trying hard to get people who have experienced bullying and harassment, some of whom gave evidence and some of whom didn't, we we re
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evidence and some of whom didn't, we were unable to, which is why we have were unable to, which is why we have we played some of which kate told us in november. former staff member of the house, did you see it? did you experience it? i suppose i did. i will certainly shouted at and sworn at occasionally by senior members of the house. mps? yes, and peas. i saw more of it happening to other people andl more of it happening to other people and i heard horror stories —— yes, mps. the most insidious and corrosive rays coming back again and again if you work in the house is, you know what he is like. because people do think there is a culture and there is still a culture in fact where you have to accept it, get on with the job, do your best, but you accommodate your fat that some members of —— you accommodate the fa ct members of —— you accommodate the fact that some members of parliament are well known be police or unsafe
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to be in the company of young women —— to be bullies. anyone who works in the house could name four, five people and their faults and misdemeanours but there is a culture of saying, you get on with it, and it is very, very corrosive. sorry, kate, go on. i do not know if it has been made clear to everyone, but that inquiry does not name names. we talk about the well—known figures, most of the names have still not come out in public. the inquiry is the latest in a series of inquiries, so many reports, all of us working in the field, we have seen endless reports without making change. while the white inquiry by not naming names has allowed more people to speak, more anonymity, as a temperature testing exercise, it does not do much because i fear and this is the reason some of us came out to name names two years ago,
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nothing changes unless the individuals face personal sanctions. it is not enough to roll our eyes and say, there is a cultural problem. unless you make examples of people, unpleasant at —— unpleasant as that is, people feel able to get away with it. but people who have experienced such behaviour have to make a complaint and there is not confidence... they felt guilty about that. i understand the dilemma people are in, but, really, if behaviour is unacceptable, we have to call it out. we have no right as members of parliament to criticise other companies, the likes of amazon, sports direct, do not treat their staff properly, we are guilty of the same. do you understand
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people felt a loyalty to the party, damaging to the party, loyalty to the end he? i understand that but you are defending unacceptable behaviour —— loyalty to the end he. people have to accept certain things are no longer acceptable in the workplace. the so-called independent complaints and grievance scheme by consensus complaints and grievance scheme by consensus is useless. so, as daimler cox suggested, which was the report in november last year —— dame laura cox. there has to be something independent. nothing has still happened. there has to be a vote today saying, we will do this? do you trust the current leader of the house to instigate it? one recommendation was put in place immediately, getting rid of the old system. the second was historic complaints, the independent complaints, the independent complaints and grievous scheme only allowed people to pursue complaints
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from the 2017 election onwards. the third thing, we have seen no progress, really lamentable, laura cox's recommendation there needs to bea cox's recommendation there needs to be a scheme independent of mps. it was easy for the commission to say, we endorse these three recommendations. and then to know that nothing happens unless the commission and the leader of the house push it forward. we have a staff working with
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subject to unwelcome comments about their clothing, their weight, their looks. they describe being required to go to and sometimes stay at the mp puzzle mat home and to socialise with them. others describe being invited to dinner or go on trips under the pretext they are work related events. others say they applied by alcohol on these occasions. shocking stuff. ithink what you are demonstrating is a power imbalance in the relationship. employment protection in this country is pretty weak but in this situation you not only have a very weak legal background but the fact the person who is making these requests has got your entire career in their hands. if you refuse, that can in their hands. if you refuse, that can really count against you. just on that point, elliott, should ipsa be like the hr department for staff or should there be a new hr department? i'm not sure ipsa is the
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right body because there is a difficult and tense relationship between mps and temple, but there needs to be something. the commission can say things should happen, things should happen and we should definitely make progress, but it is down to them. they are the body that governs the house of commons by statute, so get on with it. a final word? it's about abuse of power but also about mps who refuse to apply the rules to themselves that apply in any other workplace. i want to remind viewers of the expenses scandal, which was a huge, huge thing a few years ago. that was also about mps who refuse to play, who thought they were elite, who thought... this is about elitism. which is what katie said to us elitism. which is what katie said to us last year. but the abuse, the harassment, the abuse of power when it comes to bullying and to sexual harassment has not generated the same kind of scandal as the abuse of power with relation to expenses. i
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don't know why that is but until we recognise this is about a political elite abusing their position, as they did with the expenses scandal, we won't act in the way we did then. thank you all. thank you very much, we will see what happens. we will keep on it. thank you about your m essa g es keep on it. thank you about your messages on your choice of music for yourfirst music for your first wedding dance. we got married on the 31st of august 1974 and our first dance was to the stylistics. some of these are quite sweet and romantic! i married a mr jones, so we had me and mrsjones. we recently danced to it at our wedding anniversary party. another says, we have been married 15 years and our first dance was the first timei and our first dance was the first time i saw your face. and another says, our first was time i saw your face. and another says, ourfirst was emperor
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engelbert humperdinck. please release me, it went down a treat! get in touch with us this morning. a child who's been injured in a bomb attack needs different support to recover, both physically and psychologically. yet medics in war zones, like syria, continue to rely on training and techniques designed for adults, often struggling to save lives and limbs as a result. at the request of doctors in syria, save the children have created the first "blast injury manual" for children left disabled or traumatised by explosive weapons, based on ground—breaking research with british scientists at imperial colleage london. there is currently nothing of the sort in existence. our reporter, catrin nye, has been to turkey to meet syrian doctors testing the manual, and the children they're trying to help. i am going to my hospital this morning. dr murhaf is one of the few
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surgeons left working in idlib province in syria, risking his life to treat people in the last rebel—held area of the country opposed to president assad. it's been suffering deadly bombardment by russian and syrian forces. how is it living in syria now? chaos, actually. it's like hell. hospitals have actually been targeted in bombings. nowhere is safe. explosion. i have a little daughter and when i see every child, i think about my daughter. it's so hard to me, so... i've seen people dying in front of me. and suffering.
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it's a big tragedy and it's a shame that we could not stop the war and stop the bombardment. so we need to learn more and more about surgery in children. bombs have more harmful effects on children physically and psychologically, but war zone medics like dr murhaf have to rely on training and techniques designed for adults, often struggling to save lives and limbs as a result. this is turkey there. today he's crossing the border from syria into turkey forjust a few days to try and change that. he's come to this specialist centre for people who've lost limbs in the conflict in syria. in this classroom, he and other surgeons are being trained on this new manual.
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this will vary a little with the size of the child. it's been specifically designed to teach medics to treat blast injuries in children and was requested by syrian doctors. it's been created and written by charity save the children and scientists at imperial college london. hi. this is dr malik, the medical director of the centre. in this room, we do the fitting and the training to use the artificial limbs. there's space for recovery here, as well as construction of new limbs for those injured. so the products will look like this. and that's ready for someone to use? yes. said is seven. when he was just a year and a half, he was in his car with his whole family, trying to flee aerial bombardment in aleppo. but one air strike landed so close to their car that shrapnel pierced the whole vehicle.
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said, whose name we've changed, lost his sister. his brother lost a leg. he was sitting on his mum's lap and shrapnel amputated both his legs. what is said having today? what are these men doing with his legs? so, said currently is doing an adjustment for a newly constructed socket for his limb. he needs to do an adjustment to the bone every one year and one and a half year because the bone will keep growing, but there is no skin or muscles to grow with the bone so it will be painful. so, he, unfortunately, said needs to go under operation every year and a year and a half, they would cut open the amputation location, adjust the bone length and then sew it out again. this sort of problem is why treating a child with a blast injury is just not the same as an adult. dr mustapha is another surgeon who's crossed over from syria today for training.
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he's a specialist urological surgeon but, like so many of his colleagues in syria, has had to become an expert in treating often horrific trauma. i remember one day we received many patients in an emergency room and there was a woman, about 20 years. dr mustapha discovered the woman was around seven months pregnant but her uterus had been pierced with shrapnel. i took her to the operation room and then we open her. the embryo, dead. but the mum was very, very good after about ten days of operation. but she has no embryo, no child and no uterus.
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she can't have a baby at all. but you were glad you could save her? we can save her, yes, but i didn't know actually if she want to save her. 0k? because she was so devastated? why did you decide to stay and do this kind of work? because i'm a doctor. yes. and this is where my country is. dr mustapha showed me a picture of this baby, but it's too upsetting to show. the doctors all have stories of horror like this, things you can neverforget.
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this new blast injuries manual has been written to try and help these doctors. it's totally unique. nothing like it has ever been written and it's designed for war zones. one of the people who worked on it at imperial college london is dr emily mayhew. we got a lot of doctors in a room and said, if you're treating a blast injured child, what is it that you need? and they actually said, we need a little book, we need just a little book that gives us the basics that allows us to adapt what we already know for children. it feels almost like it couldn't be enough, like a little book couldn't possibly teach someone to treat something so catastrophic. i'm conscious that we need an encyclopaedia, that we need a room's worth of paediatric—specific information, but that doesn't exist anywhere. it doesn't exist here in the uk or in the us in some of the best—resourced hospitals and universities, so this is a start. the crisis is not over in syria.
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a lot of patients, they're scared. there is not enough staff to help them. and, as a syrian, i have to stay and help my people. wow. an e—mail here on bullying in the house of commons from alexander, how can the recommendations be put in place whenjohn barker is the speaker? accused of bullying himself. —— john bercow. speaker? accused of bullying himself. ——john bercow. farcical, get it done, parliament. this song has been named as the most played track on radio in the uk this century. #we # we will do it all
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# we will do it all # everything # everything #on # everything # on ourown... # everything # on our own... # snow patrol‘s chasing cars was originally released in 2006 and, although it never reached number one in the uk, it stayed in the charts for more than three years. that is talked johnny and lisa who chose chasing cars for their first dance when they got married. how are you? hello. tell us why this song is so special to you. when we first met each other, 13 years ago, been together 12 years, it was a song at the time i was listening to, really enjoyed the band, kind of introduced you to it, didn't i? from that point on, it was a some way related to. -- it was a song we related to. if i
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lay here, that part of the song, really beautiful and romantic. the lyrics, we really enjoyed the lyrics. it represented our relationship, i suppose. lyrics. it represented our relationship, isuppose. from lyrics. it represented our relationship, i suppose. from that point on, when i proposed, six years back, it was always going to be our first dance, never really another song which came close. it was always on the radio when we were discussing plans. it felt it was meant to be. just looking at photos from your wedding. thank you for giving us all those, so lovely. how long have you been married? three and a half years. why did you fall in love with him, lisa? laughter he always made me laugh, quite with
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the children, we just bounce off each other. that is it, really. we just clicked. johnny, i will ask you the same thing, in a moment. i will just read some e—mails from the viewers, telling us what their wedding dance was. quest, my daughter was born to do some chasing ca rs daughter was born to do some chasing cars —— chris says. she is now 12, loves it. another we had the same first dance as you, one day by elbow, that they are, i think they're a little girl, they were not clear about that. gorgeous picture. thank you. johnny, why did you fall in love with lisa? laughter just lots of things, really. she is kind, everything about her, her loving ways, her personality, makes
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me laugh. drives me mad, but makes me laugh. drives me mad, but makes me laugh. drives me mad, but makes me laugh. that is a relationship, isn't it? she helps you through the tough times, support each other as much as you can. that is that, really. wonderful way to end the programme. thank you for being gushing and romantic. have a lovely day. #ifl day. # ifilay day. # if i lay here # if i lay here #ifl # if i lay here # if ijust lay here # if ijust lay here # would you lie with me and just forget the world? # sunshine across eastern and southern areas of england at the moment. further north and west, turning more u nsettled. further north and west, turning more unsettled. very moving in for northern ireland and western areas of scotland. —— rain moving in. it
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will move east, eventually shall we rein in north—west england and across wales. —— showery rain. sunny spells further east. feeling quite warm. north and west, little bit fresher. 17—19. a band of rain tonight moving east, breaking up and giving a few showers in the south, not too much rainfall, but heavier showers in northern ireland and western scotland. quite a warm night to come. tuesday, a mixture of sunny spells and showers. goodbye for now.
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