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products from canteens and shops next month, thanks to pressure from students who want to make a difference. with me is independent analyst stephanie hare. great analyst stephanie hare. to have you with us today. let's great to have you with us today. let's start with this front—page story. we have already talked about it to story. we have already talked about ittoa story. we have already talked about it to a degree, a picture of boris johnson and carrie symonds hosting an event in downing street for the first time together. but it really focuses onjohn bolton, their discussions, and of course what this means going forward in terms of trade deals for the uk. in many ways it was music to the ears of the new prime minister, wasn't it? just the
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message he wants to get out there. we are first in the queue, we will get these trade deals. it will all be ok if we leave the eu without a deal on 31 october. yes, and if anything i think we have to be really careful, because president trump has a history of reneging on things that he has said in public, particularly with world leaders. all we have to do is think about his very close bromance with the french president ‘s, macron, and how that has salad. he was very close with justin trudeau, and that is now more distant. so a note of caution based on past behaviour. what we discussed earlier, which was quite interesting, was how john earlier, which was quite interesting, was howjohn bolton was discussing the fact that we can do it by bit, therefore we can avoid theissues it by bit, therefore we can avoid the issues that are tricky, like the national health service, if that is up national health service, if that is upforgrabs, like national health service, if that is up for grabs, like huawei, national health service, if that is upfor grabs, like huawei, and if huawei is involved in infrastructure
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in the uk, those kinds of issues. we can compartmentalise things so we can compartmentalise things so we can get some quick wins, as you said. even on something like that, we must challenge it, for instance on the huawei decision. if the united kingdom decides not to have huawei on the 5g network, it would involve ripping them out of the 3g and 4g network, where it is already present. that would cost this country billions of pounds, set this country billions of pounds, set this country back several years in developing its 5g capability, all in order to continue its intelligence sharing relationship with the united states. that might be worth it, but on the other hand if they will be a cost for this country being ready for 5g, who is going to pay for that? we already have it operating in some places, like birmingham. is that using huawei or not? some of it will be, yes. so it is already in existence. yes, so we define when creatively in these conversations.
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—— quick win creatively. creatively in these conversations. -- quick win creatively. and airport chaos raising the stakes, it says, and it is quite interesting. i was reading an article bloomberg wrote about this as well, and how the level of disruption that that caused was not a game changer, but shifted it in terms of the impact on hong kong business as usual. some a nalysts kong business as usual. some analysts i have talked to about this, and the impact on the economy and business in hong kong, et cetera, say that ten weeks sounds like a long time, it is very much in oui’ like a long time, it is very much in our faces like a long time, it is very much in ourfaces on the like a long time, it is very much in our faces on the news, but it isn't in the grand scheme of things, in terms of hong kong's history going forward. but when you saw the level of chaos yesterday you thought hang ona minute, of chaos yesterday you thought hang on a minute, this could maybe have an impact. and also will china allow this to continue? where does this end? how do we walk this back to
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something that looks like normal ain? something that looks like normal again? does this mean that carrie lam would have to step down? does it mean we could see some kind of disciplinary crackdown. we wouldn't wa nt to disciplinary crackdown. we wouldn't want to speculate, obviously, as to where that will go, but our imaginations will all go to the same place based on precedent. this is the 30th anniversary of tiananmen square. will we see this tolerated? that is the big question, and that is the unknown. that is what many are worried about, what might happen going forward if this does continue. and what is interesting, as well, is of course hong kong was seen as the mode of access to china, mainland china, and to the many other thriving economies in the, and other economies, , thriving economies in the, and other economies,, are positioning themselves to scoop up what is available, where people think twice, maybe, about doing business in hong kong. and tourism is such a big part of the economy. many are coming from mainland china, traditionally, to hong kong to shop. and how would
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other countries react? if things go really bad, other countries will have to come out in favour of the protesters, and some of their views on democracy, and freedom. we saw several demonstrators waving the american flag, for instance. will the united states say nothing? it is one to watch. and the flag carrier, cathay pacific, had to lay off a pilot and two other workers who are publicly supporting the protesters. that was seen as a move on behalf of the chinese authorities saying to hong kong, cathay pacific, this is not tolerated. so we shall see. financial times. let's talk about this story that you are an expert m, this story that you are an expert in, you are doing lots of research into this. the use of facial recognition technology in the uk. this is an interesting story about this huge development at king's
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cross in central london, and they have been using it for quite some time. it is not clear why. yes, well, there are so many questions about this. we don't know how long they have been using it for, we don't know how many cameras they have, we don't know why they are using it. it is of questionable legality. just because something isn't forbidden doesn't mean it is legal. in fact, this country is in the midst of a real debate, a legal challenge at the moment as to whether or not even the police can use facial recognition technology, so for private companies to start rolling this out and basically policing everybody, tracking them in real time and comparing them against police watch list, is very chilling indeed. and they are saying they're doing it to keep people secure. it just basically like cctv, but the next step. the worry, though, about this technology is it makes mistakes, especially, some say, it is racist. i would say it is biased
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and it is inaccurate. right now, as it exists, this technology is extremely unreliable and doesn't really work on half the population, which is to say anyone with darker skin, women and children. so imagine where we get to a place where we finally fix that technical problem and it is a pretty accurate technology. that does not solve the social question of whether or not we wa nt to social question of whether or not we want to become a surveillance society. it really isn't like cctv. that is not the way we would think about it. it is more like dna or fingerprints. yourface is a biometric, it is really powerful. it can identify you as you in real time, and because it is yourface, i can do it without your knowledge, whereas if i took your dna or your fingerprints, you would probably be aware of it. i can link it to all the other data which is known about you, your social media, your shopping habits, the geolocation on your phone which is telling you where you go, even in the bbc, that will be traded among third parties,
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the police, hackers, all of it. so we would expect to see an impact assessment for something like this. we would expect to see it communicated to the public. we would expect to see informed consent given, and there should definitely be signs. i was there yesterday, there were no signs, and in fact security guards were instructed to film people who were asking about this. so that is a bit creepy. so a lot more to come on that. and no doubt look into what is going on there, and why. and whether this is allowed or not. mp is considering whether actually it is distracting, even though you are not using your hands, talking, devices, bluetooth, linking with this, that and the other, is really distracting for drivers and therefore dangerous. so many viewers have been in touch about this. your thoughts?” many viewers have been in touch about this. your thoughts? i would like to see some research to know
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precisely where it is distracting. people talk on cars, if you are driving with children or talking to whoever is in the passenger seat. what is the problem there? is there a way that technologists can help with this to make the incorporation of the device more seamless. there is also a question of how you police a band like this, with smart cars listening and tracking the voices of drivers —— a ban. they can tell if you are tired or drunk and literally shut off the car. in terms of the question of how would they even police this, that problem will be easily solved. the question is more why is it a problem. thank you for being with us, and thank you for all your comments. so many of you sent them in, and there is a real divide between you. many think it is a good idea to consider and many think you can't actually do yourjob if this was to be taken away, the hands—free use of devices. have a look online.
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hello. well, our cool weather with showers is here to stay through the week. if anything, it's going to turn even more unsettled as we head into friday and the weekend. but that's still a long way off. in the short—term, actually, there is a lot of dry weather out there, a lot of clear weather across the uk. this is what it looks like through the early hours. so yes, we have some showers across the south, some across the lake district, lancashire, maybe western scotland, and our temperatures 9 degrees first thing in the morning in edinburgh, 12 degrees there in devon and cornwall. this is what it looks like first thing on tuesday, then. so we wake up to a lot of sunshine, a scattering of showers in the west of scotland, some across northern england, one or two affecting the south—west of england as well. now, the daytime will bring sunny spells and temperatures of around 21 degrees for london, 17 expected
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in belfast and in newcastle. one just to the south of greenland there. you know, they're all heading our way. this is what it looks like on wednesday, so one weather front brings rain to wales and many parts of england, another one to northern ireland and western scotland, as well. that bit in between there, perhaps the north—east of england and the borders, getting away with it, but probably later in the day that rain will arrive. suffice to say most of us will catch at least a bit of rain on wednesday. now, thursday, the weather does improve a little bit. you'll notice that our weather icons are showing dry weather here, partly cloudy skies. and then on friday, the weather goes downhill again. another low pressure comes off the atlantic, and this one is a big area of low pressure. that will be barrelling through,
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notjust during the course of friday, but the weekend as well. so for many of us, an increasing wind, outbreaks of rain, particularly across western areas on friday, temperatures still around about 18—20 degrees. this is relatively humid air coming in out of the south. and then that low pressure is still with us through the weekend. you can see how big it is, stretching from the central north atlantic, in fact, all the way to scandinavia, and further weather fronts will swing around it and bring us some wet weather. bye— bye.
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good morning. welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today: calls to ban drivers using their mobiles hands—free. a group of mps say it's just as dangerous as using your phone behind the wheel. first in line for a trade deal with the us — one of president trump's closest advisors says america will back the uk after brexit. a £100 million to boost security in prisons, but critics say the cash willjust tinker around the edges of the problem. retail rivals come together to challenge the government. bosses from some of the biggest shops in the country call for fundamental changes to business rates in order
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