known as a understatement. otherwise known as a giant german and french shrewsbury being blown and these proposals. he is off to see them this week, so interesting chats when he turns up. he has all these meetings coming up in the next few days, hasn't he, with some interesting encounters to come. angela merkel, who i have seen and known for some time, she is massively unimpressed by chancers, she disdains donald trump, thinks he isa she disdains donald trump, thinks he is a complete pillock or the german equivalent of that. i haven't worked that —— heard that word for ages! it's fantastic! nobody takes him seriously, borisjohnson, it's fantastic! nobody takes him seriously, boris johnson, making it's fantastic! nobody takes him seriously, borisjohnson, making up stories about straight bananas when he was in the telegraph back in the 90s. she will be civil, she will be listening, she is a good listener.

and she will tell him to take a runningjump and we and she will tell him to take a running jump and we will be back to where we started. she doesn't want to know deal either. she doesn't and the same goes for macron. what matters most to them, and this isn't me being pious, it isjust a case in terms of their position, is the integrity of the eu, and the integrity of the eu, and the integrity of the single market and come yet, everybody, particularly the germans and countries that border as through the sea border, the dutch, the belgians, the scandinavians and the french will stand to lose and economies would suffer from a know deal but not half as much as we will. and they know that, and they know we know that. and nothing has changed. the word from the eu is the withdrawal agreement isn't open for negotiation which is why this no deal speculation is rife because there is no process at the moment to achieve anything other than crashing out of the eve. he is going through the

motions, he is doing this correctly in the expectation that it'll be rejected. he will say i've tried, i've done my best. and will crash out on 31st of october. both sides will want to push each other. who blinks first? it is a huge mexican stand—off. blinks first? it is a huge mexican stand-off. blimey! a giant game of chicken. raspberries, chickens! the principle being both sides want to ultimately say it wasn't us, we did oui’ ultimately say it wasn't us, we did our best. if it is a disaster it wasn't ourfault, we our best. if it is a disaster it wasn't our fault, we tried, they wouldn't move. the eu are sticking to this logic and you might ask what place does logic have in all this, that it was the brits who negotiated a deal that the british prime minister, theresa may, approved. she put it to her cabinet and, from that

point, it went pear—shaped. the brits negotiated the they insisted on the backstop. you can get it through the parliament. yes, but she negotiated it. afterwards, you can't negotiated it. afterwards, you can't negotiate a deal done to make the brits didn't have it imposed on them, they went into it and they turned around and said... and we know the backstop is one of the biggest issues and the biggest problem. my reading of this is that boris johnson's line problem. my reading of this is that borisjohnson's line to the eu is that take the backstop out and we might get this through parliament. that is essentially where we are at now. is the simplicity of that message potentially attractive to some? for domestic consumption but for his... predominantly conservative brexiteers, yes. but it won't wash with the eu because for

the points i've made before and also without it, how do you guarantee abiding by the deal? if we go to the telegraph, because it is interesting with the guardian and telegraph leading with the same story, different take on it, different point of view when it comes to brexit, of course, they are in on what's been said between mrjohnson and leo varadkar in this hour—long phone call. which ended without agreement, funnily enough. i suspect it might have ended slightly worse than that! thank you so much for the call! yes, it's clear as mud! it is unusualfor a phone call! yes, it's clear as mud! it is unusual for a phone call between two leaders to last that long. given it is so early on and there is so much to cover, i can imagine they both set out their stall and realise they we re set out their stall and realise they were getting nowhere. but the telegraph interestingly goes into much more detail, talks about the prime minister wanting to stress his

commitment to to the good friday agreement, and that the backstop cannot form part of an earth withdrawal agreement. that is a fact we must both acknowledge, which is more detail about this letter, which was obviously then released, whether 0!’ was obviously then released, whether or not this phone call, had it gone better, would that have changed whether this letter was released not? it certainly appears the telegraph reports there was actually a clash during the phone call with the irish premier, they said they clashed over the backstop. what i love just in pure journalism, in media studies, you look at the telegraph and the way it is written, exactly the same story, boris johnson tore up the northern ireland backstop and demanded new terms etc. you know, this is an erstwhile star

columnist, while the guardian, the exact opposite. borisjohnson has written to the eu suggesting the backstop could be replaced by a new form of agreement. exactly the same story, isn't it? where do you think this takes us? you both said early on in this conversation you think there will be no deal on the sist of october. you both agree? i've been saying that since 2016. i am consistent. i've got doomsday scenarios and everything but i'm not going to press them on tonight.|j scenarios and everything but i'm not going to press them on tonight. i am quite a half empty person and in 20161 quite a half empty person and in 2016! put a triple accumulator on brexit, trump and marine le pen. you can tell the misanthrope i am. how long is this segment? you need a shrink rather than a presenter! i can't help on that. i am not as absolutely convinced as you are that

it'll be a no deal. i still think there are parliamentary processes to go through for it to be stopped by some form. i'm glad someone has faith in our parliamentarians because some of us has given up that they will ever cobble up anything.|j still think there is a chance of no deal. i shan't take you any further on that. jo take us on the other store in the telegraph which caught your eye simply because this is an interesting discussion, leaving aside the issue of county lines drug scans which is a huge issue but it is also an issue about money and where it goes within the wider police and security force. absolutely. the story on the front page of the telegraph as suggesting that there has already been the head of the national crime agency is essentially warning around county lines and gang bosses, and this big crackdown that is wanted to try and help with regards to reducing the

strongholds that some of these gangs have gone. obviously, there are lots of reported issues about gang of knife crime in big cities and it is all linked, and the nsa chief, it appears there is the start of a sense there is some inequality in terms of where the priorities are going to be in terms of spending. she says £2.7 billion more was needed to tackle the, quote, staggering damage caused to britain by the 180,000 people the nca estimates were involved in serious and organised crime. it is essentially saying there is a big, growing problem and they need far more resources. it is interesting, putting more bobbies on the beat, she says it might hamper elements of what she is trying to do because the money has got to come from somewhere. there has always been a

curiosity about... we are not unique but not having a national general police force, there are so many different police forces and the met in london is the biggest but you have this pan— national crime agency, along with security forces and others that go across it but in terms of day—to—day policing it seems to me a bit anachronistic you've still got these county based on other police forces, when cyber crime know no limits. the other interesting part is this seizing of assets has always been portrayed as dealing with oligarchs and other assorted dodgy super—rich. it is interesting, and not before time, that this will be targeted, if she has her way, towards those who are

beneficiaries of the drugs trade and other serious organised crime. although, to enact that, is difficult. absolutely. what shall we talk about the metro? because there isa talk about the metro? because there is a lot of talk about prince harry. and meghan markle. and where they've been flying recently and how much they've been flying recently. which has prompted a headline you rather liked, i think, has prompted a headline you rather liked, ithink, the has prompted a headline you rather liked, i think, the use of the word heir miles. i was wondering before we went on air, the picture of megan marco, the duchess of sussex, is that a tattoo on her wrist?|j marco, the duchess of sussex, is that a tattoo on her wrist? i am slightly interested in that, i think you want one and i think you should get one. anyway! leave flying royals alone, says sir eltonjohn, who has

basically paid to "offset emissions" from two of the flights. he got caught up in a story about the fact that harry and megan marco had been flying quite a lot, and also been talking about the environment. and elton has waded in to say that although the duke and duchess of sussex were being criticised as hypocrites by taking trips in private jets over a period hypocrites by taking trips in privatejets over a period of 11 days, he claims to have offset those flights for them. it could have cost about 20,000, protected them from media intrusion, and he paid to offset emissions from the flights. could either of you to greater minds than me please explain how do you offset to make return private jet flights? you've set us up on air! i don't know how to do it. how many

amazon rainforests or whatever do you have to plant in order to offset these two private jet flights?|j these two private jet flights?” can't offer you numbers but my understanding of that is you basically put money into various environmental projects, of which tree—planting environmental projects, of which tree—pla nting might be environmental projects, of which tree—planting might be one. apparently, but... there are formal schemes that you can spend money, and they do it properly so it's not just sticking a couple of trees in your garden, it's a bit more professional than that. are these two, the royal pair, the royal couple, are they getting some unfair stick in the media, and if so... there has been a general campaign ever since meghan came on the scene to try to criticise whether it is herfriends, to try to criticise whether it is her friends, whether it is the wedding, whether it was, you know the protocol, there's been several things, even from seating arrangements at wimbledon this year.

and stopping the photographer and taking a picture. and the gift voucher on the wedding, someone put it on ebay, they got the flak for that. they are ultimately a target and there's more suggestions, there's been a suggestion today somewhere else, on twitter, there is 110w somewhere else, on twitter, there is now a situation where the two royal brothers, they won't be at bell moral at the same time because of the wives. —— bao moral. it is running away with itself, this story, and it is unfortunate, and i think they are trying to pull these two down, and i think there is issues going on behind—the—scenes, perhaps with their treatment in dealing with the media that is starting to fan the flames. i think it's a shame, i think they've got a young child and they need to be left alone to do what they need to do and given many of the public have a fascination with both of diana's children, it would be a shame if they hound this couple into not

being... in large parts, the media fre nzy being... in large parts, the media frenzy contributed to diana's demise and it was bad enough, that was before social media, which goes after people, particularly women, in the public eye, in the most extraordinary way. there are some systems that work, though. for instance, i played a football match earlier this year and we played on a pitch next to prince william. and prince william plays this particular football match in a particular place every week and is known that no one cove rs every week and is known that no one covers it and they let him do his thing and! covers it and they let him do his thing and i was shocked when i heard that because apparently it is a known event every week as they don't bother him and it's fine and there are arrangements in place let these royals... and i'm not saying they should have a normal life because they're different but i'm not sure every trip they have and every decision they make needs to be front page news. in our last one minute and a half or so, there was a story

that caught your eye on the financial times, capitalism driven since the 1970s... just briefly maximising shareholder value was the jargon that was seen as the top priority for any chief executive or chairman of any company, whether a quarterly or annual dividend or quarterly or annual dividend or quarterly results, whatever it is. it was simply the stock market value of the company that mattered most, and it was pretty much do whatever it takes, preferably within the law, but occasionally outside of it, to max out, so that your shareholders get more, you give them more, the higher your enumeration. that was the straightforward instructional caricature of the motivation of corporates. before corporate social

responsibility came in, which was you've got to be seen to be doing good things elsewhere. and this is now saying, quoting a business roundtable in the states, saying now that issues such as environmental protection and the way you treat your workforce are seen as being on a par with that which in a way is just catching up with reality. ok. time has beaten us, folks. we will do it all again in about three quarters of an hour's time. that's it for the papers this hour. jo and john will be back at 11:30 for another look at the papers, and don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you, jo tanner and john kampfner. goodbye.

good evening. now week might have got off to a showery start but the prospects of tomorrow look considerably drier and brighter on the whole. as the week pans out, we have some warmer the whole. as the week pans out, we have some warmer weather eventually to look forward to as well. that said quite a chilly into the night in some spots, our weather front sinks down out of scotland, bringing rain into northern ireland and i think come to rest across northern england by the end of the night, putting some patchy right reign in here while the shower start to clear northern ireland. the clear skies across scotland and the north—westerly breeze feeding in some chilly air, with lows getting down to sa degrees. nine or ten elsewhere. it is starting to feel a little autumnal on tuesday. the day itself will look pretty summery. that north—westerly breeze keeping things cooler across scotland but further south in the sunshine and as

we lose the breeze on monday, it should be warmer. some patchy cloud around for miles and the south—west of england and northern ireland later on in the day as the warm weather front stance to approach. a few showers pushing into the north—east of england but as you can see a lot of fine weather. his the warm see a lot of fine weather. his the warm front i was talking about which doesn't do very much but it's tied in with this area of low pressure which will be more noticeable arrival to our shores. wednesday dawn is fine, because different is that i was going to make is kicking the wind direction into a south—westerly introducing warm air. some wet weather to content with on wednesday come the afternoon across much of scotland as the day progresses in showers ahead of that front for wales and northern england but temperatures already getting a boost in the south—east, 23 perhaps. notice how the warmth spread northwards as well write the way across the uk by the time we get to saturday. our temperatures getting into the low 20s for scotland and northern ireland. this high is trying to build and squeeze away

those weather fronts but also feed us those weather fronts but also feed us that warm air from the south—west further north across the uk. always a little more unsettled for scotland and northern ireland with some showers in the occasion. it'll be warmer showers in the occasion. it'll be warmer potentially up to 27 degrees in the south—east of england at the start of the weekend.

this is bbc news. i'm julian worricker. the headlines at 11:00pm. the widow of pc andrew harper, pays tribute to her husband, as police charge a 20—year—old man with his murder. councils prepare for possible food shortages to hit schools and care homes in the event of a no—deal brexit. there will be challenges around availability, challenges around delays at ports, challenges around currency situations and the impact on pricing. borisjohnson writes to the eu, calling the irish backstop anti—democratic and insisting it must go. police say a bomb attack in northern ireland was a deliberate attempt to murder officers. dissident republicans are blamed. prince andrew says he's appalled by the crimes of his former friend