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time for hardtalk. welcome to heart talk. donald trump, the self—proclaimed dealmaker extraordinary is finding the korean peninsula tough going. from whole he's claims of friendship, pyongyang seems not closer to giving up his nuclear arsenal and that the strategic partnership between south and north korea is looking restraint as well. the foreign minister kang kyung—wha is my guess. the country is out of step with both the us and japan. how vulnerable does that make south korea? japan. how vulnerable does that make south korea 7 — japan. how vulnerable does that make south korea? — — the south korean foreign minister.
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foreign minister kang kyung—wha in beijing, will come to heart talk. thank you very much for having me. we have to start because you are in beijing and if you had meetings with both the chinese and japanese foreign ministers, we have to start with a troubled relationship with japan. the birds of my financial times editorial says that the world has been fixated on donald trump financial war but a new ball is waging between south korea and japan. i haven't seen that article
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and the issue of trade with japan has, quite unexpectedly and in a very unilateral and arbitrary manner on the part ofjapan. we are prepared to discuss what the issue is and keep these as a trade issue but i think the steps that they have taken have but i think the steps that they have ta ken have caused but i think the steps that they have taken have caused a great deal of problems for our industries and i think we want very much to engage with them in consultation so we can ta ke with them in consultation so we can take things back to pre— july one when i took these steps. it is not clear to me that you want to love her the temperature because of the chinese foreign minister said to you — — lower. he said to resolve the issue, get a dialogue going, lower the temperature and you chose to say
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that it the temperature and you chose to say thatitis the temperature and you chose to say that it is important to eliminate unilateral and arbitrary trade retail usury steps which was clearly a job at yourjapanese counterpart so a job at yourjapanese counterpart so you a job at yourjapanese counterpart so you are a job at yourjapanese counterpart so you are not really trying to sort these out. we are trying. we have offered to engage on the trade issue. it is retaliatory, arbitrary. the japanese rationale for introducing these tried restrictive measures have shifted. initially they to their satisfaction iva how we re they to their satisfaction iva how were handling high courtjudgements on the issue of forced labour then they found the problems without export control measures and somehow some of these sensitive items might make their way to north korea. they
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have clarified that as not to be the case that they have not explained to us case that they have not explained to us what inappropriate cases have been. we have offered to mate between outright authorities, to talk through the issues. — — to mate. and address their concerns. we have not had any response. let's be candid. this dispute and we can go into some of the details, it hasn't revived some very old suspicions, even hatreds between the japanese and south korean people. — — it has revived. people talking about the outrage, boycotting japanese made goods, tragically to people setting themselves on fire in protest at japan and its restrictive trade.
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this is supposed to be a crucial regional alliance for you. it is. every relations with japan is extremely important, especially given our need for collaboration and co—ordination as we deal with the north korean nuclear issues, as with the us as well. the reaction to the korean public on these measures taken byjapan, korean public on these measures taken by japan, you korean public on these measures taken byjapan, you have to see korean public on these measures taken by japan, you have to see the larger context. as you know, there isa larger context. as you know, there is a very painful past and the past has drawn a long shadow over recent relations. my government has said to deal with the past as it passed, difficult but let's manage that and move on other areas of collaboration andjapan move on other areas of collaboration and japan has so far, and if is government, not responded. what you
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have just said is very important but it does not seem to square with what is happening because when you're caught in south korea started to revive the notion that individual south koreans could seek compensation from the japanese for false labour during the war, that seemed to run contrary to the treaty you signed with the japanese going back to 1965 which said that all claims had been completely and finally settled. you cannot sign a legal document and reopen the whole concept of conversation. first of all, the japanese themselves have also indicated that individual rights to claim have not been extinguished. that has been their position through the 1990s. they have slightly change they chewed in
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recent yea rs have slightly change they chewed in recent years but the 1965 agreement is about times on property rights, financial rights, debts and credits. what the courtjudgement, at the recent courtjudgement has said isn't that treaty between the two countries stays. we are not saying we are breaking that or asking to renegotiate it. the courtjudgement said the context of illegal occupation, either colonial rule and the war of aggression, illegal acts directly connected to that contest have not been covered by the 1965 agreement. you think it is healthy to encourage south korean citizens to encourage south korean citizens to seek here, in 2019, seek compensation for the tragic and terrible things that happened during
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the japanese colonial occupation. it really is worth reviving and digging through all that? it is not the government encouraging. these are individuals who are living survivors. who have lived through that terrible time and personally experienced the forced labour. you had the chinese site, you guys must get together and resolve these because it is very bad for regional trade, jeopardizing free—trade agreement across the region and the japanese have put that restrictive export controls on some key goods that normally are exported from japan to your country — and we will talk about that — but you seem to be very petty in this dispute. for example, you government has announced it will double the amount of samples and the frequency of tests a nd of samples and the frequency of tests and radioactive substances
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coming in in food and tests and radioactive substances coming in infood and i tests and radioactive substances coming in in food and i agricultural products from japan. after fukushima in 2011 rhetoric. why are you putting very tight controls on these japanese agricultural and food products? of is concern on part of the public about fisheries products and agricultural products in the vicinity of the fukushima plant. and we have to listen to the consent of oui’ we have to listen to the consent of our public. it is only now that you are ina our public. it is only now that you are in a ptech tried what you have decided you suddenly need to expose these extra tests. — — in a beta feud with japan. we do our policy reviews and take steps in accordance with our concerns for the public
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concern of that safety and health. a recent report on the possible releasing of contaminated waste of the say, we have asked japan for explanations about this and we will continue to engage them on this issue. that has raised a lot of concern and it is a legitimate response. a couple of quick ones on japan — are you now saying to the japanese that, not only economic ties but security intelligence and strategic partnership ties are at sta ke ? strategic partnership ties are at stake? we want to minimise the issues. and given the japanese
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rationale now tried control issues at technical and we are saying, let's discuss it at that level and work through the technical issues. we have not had any response from the japanese on that. 0bviously we have not had any response from the japanese on that. obviously it is tied to their dysplasia iva out courtjudgement. — — dysplasia. a democracy that abides by the rule of law would not do otherwise. that is a situation in my country. the japanese position was that everything was central by the 1965 so we are trying to find a way forward. — — settled by. and we have thought through very seriously on
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all the options. some have not been all the options. some have not been a seriously considered byjapan. we need open discussions and consultation on all of these issues. where does these and then? if you look at the economic battle, to be honest japan is a look at the economic battle, to be honestjapan is a bigger and more powerful economy than yours. you depend on some key strategic points and things that come from japan and outsiders thinkjapan holds more of the cats particularly as your expert businesses are suffering already and if these will hit them hard. the south korean economy looks vulnerable and you look vulnerable in battle with japan. exactly. exactly, but we depend on the japan and our trade with japan has always
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been anything minus for us and, of all of the export art as we get from japan, those three critical items that are critical to our semiconducting industry they put restrictions on and to think that a country that has so mutually interdependent, people to people exchanges and growing, that they would do this without prior notice, without prior consultation, very unilaterally and adjust three days after the g20 in osaka committed the country to nondiscriminatory and predictable tried, to have these on us predictable tried, to have these on us three days later i think is com pletely u na cce pta ble us three days later i think is completely unacceptable so we are asking through consultations, let's find a way to roll things back to pre— july one. you sound very angry.
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we. we are angry. the latent sense of injustice because japan has not fully come to terms with the past and decide that has meant that people, the living survivors in particular, who have lived through those difficult days, have a deep—seated sense of injustice, that they have not been given at claims about the harms done to them.“ they have not been given at claims about the harms done to them. if i may, let me stop you, your opposition, the satellite relationships with japan is clear in this interview but another thing important to talk about is at the strategic and diplomatic position of your government with regard to north korea and donald trump as mac continued effort to make what he a lwa ys
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continued effort to make what he always described as the big deal of continue caressing north korea. he describes kim jong—us as he continue caressing north korea. he describes kimjong—us as he is continue caressing north korea. he describes kim jong—us as he is a friend, a man who brought seem beautiful letters and yet diplomacy appears to have achieved nothing. are you worried about the donald trump strategy? we are in a bit of a lull. i like of an agreement in hanoi has been disappointing. they have not been a ready or prepared to come back to the negotiating table. the north korea laid out promised in late june that they would come back to the negotiating table but by now there is no communication between
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there is no communication between the us and north korea to set the agenda, to set the date and place for working level negotiations and when they take place. to say this has been a failure or disappointment, no progress has been made, when you look at things on a day to day basis, things look different but if you look at the larger perspective, it is a huge step change to where we were two yea rs step change to where we were two years ago. a huge step change in it that donald trump has given all sorts of diplomatic process to kim jong—us but he appears to have got little in return. you in south korea appear to have been cut out to the entire korean diplomacy. — — kim jong—un. the north korean said that would not talk to you again. they
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said it would make the boiled head ofa said it would make the boiled head of a cow laugh. and donald trump does not seem to be came to talk to you a thought. i would not say so. i think our collaboration with the us at all levels is extremely close and i think is the north korean challenge has brought us closer. it may not be feasible but i think the number of meetings that my president and mrtrump has number of meetings that my president and mr trump has had, my own interactions with me penn payer has been extremely frequent and a very close. we do things based upon a very close north and south co—ordination. for the north koreans to think they can cut us out is a bit ludicrous. i do not think they understand the reality. we also know
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that north korean diplomatic behaviour is very unique, to put it mildly and some of it is quite unacceptable. but surely the point is that these, kim jong—un has donald trump precisely where he wa nts donald trump precisely where he wants him. he does not need south korea to come in and complicate that relationship. unless you are prepared to raise economic sanctions and offer assistance to north korea and offer assistance to north korea and are prepared to enter your strategic military partnership with the us, north korea has no interest in talking to saul, so iva to you. are you prepared to consider their requests? — — seoul. are you prepared to consider their requests? - - seoul. strategic alliance the us is something for the north koreans to demand anything of
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or comment on. we are absolutely confident about the strength of the alliance and of the day to day co—ordination. you also have to distinguish between north korea and its rhetoric and its internal calculations. i think, its rhetoric and its internal calculations. ithink, in its rhetoric and its internal calculations. i think, in all of these matters, we share it with the analysis and information very frequently with the united states so in fact, frequently with the united states so infact, in frequently with the united states so in fact, in many ways, the alliance isa in fact, in many ways, the alliance is a stronger than ever. in fact, in many ways, the alliance is a stronger than everlj in fact, in many ways, the alliance is a stronger than ever. i wonder whether your words about the strength of your partnership with washington will convince anybody around the world when we look at the reality of donald trump, in recent dies questioning the point of military exercises. he does not like paying for them, he wants to be reinforced and he says he has told
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the south koreans of that. he says south korea has agreed to pay substantially more money to the us in order to defend itself from a north korea. something to which you said it had not been settled yet. what is it the truth he chris make is that they are a dispute with us about how much you are prepared to pay to help defend you? this is not a dispute. this is an issue we will work for in the spirit of the alliance. we worked every ten rounds and we will work through the next round. i think president trump has dialled his trades. we also read his messages. we look at the how did
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you feel when it donald trump mimicked a south korean accent and was reportedly said to say things disparaging things about the south koreans. this is the man you want to be your partner? i won't comment on the words and actions of president trump. i think overall his determination and his political will has been instrumental, together with my president, to bring us this far on the engagement with north korea. that, i think, the engagement with north korea. that, ithink, is the engagement with north korea. that, i think, is also then supported by the policy establishment of the us as represented in the state department and the defence department. you can only take your own diplomacy so far. whenjohn bolton,
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only take your own diplomacy so far. when john bolton, trompeposmac national security advisor, suggests that in the future south korea should pay all 5,000,000,000posmac cost of the troops in south korea, how do you feel about that? as we have not yet started serious negotiations, that's for sure. they have a team in korea for the 1st round of initial sounding out. the serious negotiations will begin in september. we have yet to see where this leads to, but we will certainly go to the negotiating table on the cost sharing, based upon our position of arriving at a reasonable level that is acceptable to us, that we can handle and that we can pass through a national assembly. we can handle and that we can pass through a nationalassembly. we we can handle and that we can pass through a national assembly. we are almost out of time. can you remember almost out of time. can you remember a time in the recent past when south korea looked more economically and politically vulnerable? we have
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talked about the impact of a trade dispute with japan on your economy, but frankly, strategically, you are in dispute with japan, the north koreans won't talk to you, your relationship with trump is, shall we say, troubled to say the least. you have china and russia, which have ambitions in your region that don't necessarily match yours. south korea is in necessarily match yours. south korea isina necessarily match yours. south korea is in a lot of trouble. well, we have lots of challenges. i wouldn't call our relations with the us troubled. i think we have our disagreements, all relationships do, but we are in an alliance of 65 yea rs but we are in an alliance of 65 years and we have been able to work through difficult issues in the past in the spirit of the alliance. we have our challenges with japan, we have our challenges with japan, we haveissues have our challenges with japan, we have issues with china and russia, but one fundamental goal we share is that the korean peninsula must be wholly denuclearise, and we must find lasting peace on the korean
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peninsula. we very much have that goal in our sites, and we must deal with daily challenges as they come. foreign minister, i thank you very much indeed forjoining me from beijing. thank you for having me. as we move into the latter part of august, it looks like summer is going to go for it with a real final flourish, and temperatures up to 30 celsius through the weekend and on into monday. for some, that is of course a bank holiday. the reason being, we want to get rid of these areas of low pressure, with some
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quite cool weather and wet and windy conditions will be squeezed away to the north by high—pressure building from the continent, and as we move into the southerly airstream we will have some real warmth coming into the continent as well. quite a breezy story, still under the influence of the area of low pressure to the north, and there will be some showers. this front will be some showers. this front will affect northern england, more persistent rain for northern ireland, and it will intersect with southern scotland as it goes through the afternoon. temperatures in the south—east up to 2a, maybe even 25 degrees. then, as the week continues we will start to pull that warmer air further we will start to pull that warmer airfurther north. as we will start to pull that warmer air further north. as we do that it will move away, not before we have seen a significant spell for western scotland. down into single figures
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earlier this week, five and six in some areas of northern england and wales, and into the midteens as we going into friday. here is the high across the continent, still feeding erin from the south—west, but it will feel already much warmer than it did earlier in the week, and we start to put away those fronts in scotland, so it is a much drier day here. temperatures of 22 through the southern uplands, 27 — 28 across parts of southern england, and then we get to the weekend and that highbury orientates and we start to pull whether from the south. notice some weather fronts coming into play. an entirely dry weekend not likely, some isolated showers to the north and west, but a lot of sunshine. a core of temperatures in the mid to high 20s across england and, hotairgetting the mid to high 20s across england and, hot air getting up to wales on sunday and scotland. a shade cooler across northern ireland and scotland for monday. in the south,
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temperatures still hitting the mid to high 20s. some of that warmth could cling on for much of the week ahead across england and. a little more unsettled later in the week for scotla nd more unsettled later in the week for scotland and northern ireland, with the arrival of some showers.
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